Haha, this is one of those things you think would work, but when someone else has done in practice it becomes a no brainer. Glad to see my theory is already validated by someone with experience!! Thanks!
Hey Billy I just found your channel and I must say this video really helped me out. I had a charger in my main chicken coop that I wanted to run to 3 tractors and wasn't sure what I was going to do until I say this. Heck I may even disconnect my deer fencing on the garden and weather the coop charge to that as well. Thanks so much for sharing this, Gods Best to your and the family from Overlook farm in WV
Oh! Pete at Just A Few Acres Farm did a video on his line repair. He used a meter to figure out the point of the drain. I didn’t fully understand the link to the source. This video fully explains that part. I’ve got problems with raccoon destroying the corn just as it’s maturing. Before next year I’ll work this easy fix to stop it. Thank you very much.
I picked up on something that you said, other than the roach clip joke. That was funny by the way. You said that at one point you didn't have the chicken pem grounded. That would have been the problem if it didn't work. But I didn't know if that was a mistake in what you were saying or what.. Thanks for this video! Thanks for the tips! God bless you all!
How does the nets work . I see you have a few sections of the bottom laying on the ground . Does the hot wires in it not go all the way to the bottom of the netting??. Thanks
Thank you sir I'm glad I watched your video. I was just about to run an insulated wire from the high voltage side of my box. I have an old 90s Sears and roebuck solid state electric fence controller. I don't have a voltmeter that goes that high but it's making a nice arc at about a half inch so I know it's putting out. Gotta redo now but I sure don't want to buy another box because I mess up this one
Congrats on your new farm. Looks like a lot more average. I'm sure in the future you're going to find a way to collect the rain water coming from the gutter. I would have mounted the charger on the inside of that 4x4 under the porch.
So, the entire 'trunk line" the uninsulated wire is electrified from outlet to end? And it is bare wire? So if I touch the trunk line I get shocked? How do you anchor the end of the trunk line? I am not electrically proficient. Thank you. Great info
This is basically how an electrified high tensile perimeter fence & poly wire reels work in a rotational grazing setup. I think what some people have trouble visualizing when dealing with electric fencing is that the hot wires DO NOT have to make a closed loop. The hot wire can just jut out and stop like it does here. The hot wire is primed with electrical potential by the energizer. The circuit is completed when something touching the ground contacts the hot wire.
I been using old exstion cords 12/2 dont know how long it will last. And a smart switch so i can turn the fence off from anywhere i have internet or phone service.
hey great vid. I'm basically doing the same, I have T post fencing for main grazing areas ( 4 in total ) and picked up 4 of the temp fencing to move around some grazing areas, problem is as soon as I connect the temp fencing my voltage drops by half If I just connect 1 temp fence voltage is great, as soon as 2nd temp fence is connected it drops it to half. I've even disconnected one of the other pastures to see if it's the charger but 25miles has not been reached . It only drops when I connect a second temp fence with the provided connectors ... any thoughts.? thanks
Enjoyed the video. On our property, I'm using tsc largest ~200 mile ac charger to assist keeping out anything not belonging on our 18 acres. It will put anything in the front row on Sunday morning! Would I need to adjust this voltage down and what would you suggest? TY
My daughter has a neighbor that has a viscous pit that keeps jumping the fence and getting into her yard with her dogs. How does it do with snow etc….we live in Nebraska and I do want high voltage
Since the insulated wire could lay on the ground, assuming you could stake around the wire and cover lighting with dirt? Would you ever bury the wire? I think you said but would be great if you could put which insulated wire you used? Thanks!!
Billy, you rock! Thanks for that tip! Great idea and no worries about touching that jumper wire since it's insulated! Great video, as always. We wish we had found your videos years ago. Do you have a video explaining how you / how to built your drive-thru electric gate? (Hahaha... The Lord answered my question even before I asked it... It was right there on the right, in the Recommended videos. How funny!) God Bless you and yours brother!
The Lord and Google lol...They know what you're saying, thinking, and will buy months in advance just based on your habits online. Have you ever noticed things like what you just mentioned?? You write, to someone asking about garden hoses and then bam....in your feed, there is the garden hose of your dreams! It must be meant to be to buy it....or marketing tactics are just really crazy good on Google. As an E commerce shop owner, I do get to see a tiny bit of what they can do to sell products, or influence someone psychologically to do something such as sign up for an email, buy a product, go to a website, etc. I like your idea a lot more, and choose to believe that the Lord is running Google ultimately anyways so....have a good one and thanks for your service.
@@PermaPasturesFarm21 I see, so basically you jumped one hot-wire-fence to the other (sharing juice) to enclosure around the sheep w/out need of another "Energizer" or losing any voltage...
WOW!!! THANK YOU, FOR THE GREAT VIDEO!!! Perhaps, use "spark-plug" wires, as your connecting leads. They are capable of safely carrying very high voltages.
He has two lines. The uninsulated wire running on the yellow insulators on the T post and an insulated red wife connecting the uninsulated wire to the netting. The red wire is insulated, but both would be carrying a charge when the electricity is turned on.
Hey Billy. i sent your video to someone to watch and they said this. What do you think? Ehh, that guy has some really bad electric fence practices. Don't use regular insulated wire it will quickly arc thru to the ground and will be hard to find. They make special insulated wire for electric fences. I find even those get cracked and ground out where you can't see it. I only run electric above ground, not on or under. Don't use 2 different types of metal on an electric fence. Keep it galvanized to galvanized or aluminum to aluminum. You get bimetalic corrosion very quickly between the two which lessens the charge. Same with your ground rod. If you are using copper ground rod use copper wire. I stick with galvanized ground rods so I can always use the same galvanized wire. Don't daisy chain seperate net fence pens together. You can put 3 nets hooked together vis metal clips for 1 large pen but I wouldn't have seperate pens connected thru each other, send out a seperate line to your mainline. Also, use those metal clips on the nets. Every individual wire is attached to those so you get good contact on all, just wrapping a wire around the polywire doesn't insure this. Grounds rods are super important even in super wet nh. Follow manufacturer recommendations on energizer for ground rods. When we have a summer drought one ground rod often isn't enough. Check connections on ground rods periodically for corrosion. Remember that ground is 50% of you fence and often where the issues lie.
Seriously.. no kidding.. sorry, but that's kind of the way the electric fence is. Designed to work .... I've had cattle horses hogs all my life I'm 48.. this is how it's been done for years... .thank u for ur hard work, and the content of ur video is good.. b UT, that's the way Ben has done for years.. .. lol😂😂😂😂 I do have a question. wwhT was the comment b out not being in the desert with ground rods..?
Trying to wrap my mind around this - do you let the insulated wire just lay on the ground or is it raised up in the air. I'm thinking about running 3 wires around the property but additional around the garden for the critters that are already living in the perimeter. Don't you worry about someone touching the live wire accidentally? It sounds like a lot of energy. So with electric fence it does not need to be like a complete circuit? Appreciate you sharing your work and the things you have already figured out.
The insulated wire can lay on the ground. The risk of someone touching it is always there but it’s not enough to do any real harm because the voltage is high but the current (which causes harm) is negligible. There’s no need to make a complete circuit.
Good to know, thanks. I bought a 6 joule charger which may be too much for chickens. But I’ll also have sheep soon. Eventually pigs and perhaps cows, who knows?
I forgot to ask how far between T posts, 16 or 20 ft? Would you suggest a knife blade shut off switch for when it’s not in use, or when my landlord brush hogs that pasture? (He will stop once I have animals on it) lots of sedge now. This should save some money too. My only expenses would be the t posts and the wire. Unless I can repurpose some old wood posts or rusty old t posts from a broken fence. (If I can remove them.)
Some good point there I will use. Can you or have you done a review on the premier one netting? I recently bought a European made net off ebay, and I’m less than impressed with the quality of the flimsy plastic poles. My Gallagher solar charger is pumping out 6500v all day here in Australia.
We’ve never done a review on Premier One netting...but we will. Australia, New Zealand and Germany make the best chargers but Premier one make the best netting.
Haha, this is one of those things you think would work, but when someone else has done in practice it becomes a no brainer. Glad to see my theory is already validated by someone with experience!! Thanks!
Thanks in my first year of homestead. Learning a bunch from your channel and others. NE Kansas
Son Driven Thank you so much for watching! Are used to live in Hiawatha, Kansas not long ago myself!
Just sub'd when you called them "hooter bandits". I love a hidden easter egg of a joke.
Glad to entertain my friend!
me tooooo! (@)}-----^-----^-----
Hey Billy I just found your channel and I must say this video really helped me out. I had a charger in my main chicken coop that I wanted to run to 3 tractors and wasn't sure what I was going to do until I say this. Heck I may even disconnect my deer fencing on the garden and weather the coop charge to that as well. Thanks so much for sharing this, Gods Best to your and the family from Overlook farm in WV
Oh! Pete at Just A Few Acres Farm did a video on his line repair. He used a meter to figure out the point of the drain. I didn’t fully understand the link to the source. This video fully explains that part. I’ve got problems with raccoon destroying the corn just as it’s maturing. Before next year I’ll work this easy fix to stop it. Thank you very much.
I picked up on something that you said, other than the roach clip joke. That was funny by the way. You said that at one point you didn't have the chicken pem grounded. That would have been the problem if it didn't work. But I didn't know if that was a mistake in what you were saying or what.. Thanks for this video! Thanks for the tips! God bless you all!
Thank you so much for clarifying this. There’s zero information on google about this going into a poly wire to netting thanks for clarifying
How does the nets work . I see you have a few sections of the bottom laying on the ground . Does the hot wires in it not go all the way to the bottom of the netting??. Thanks
Thank you sir I'm glad I watched your video. I was just about to run an insulated wire from the high voltage side of my box. I have an old 90s Sears and roebuck solid state electric fence controller. I don't have a voltmeter that goes that high but it's making a nice arc at about a half inch so I know it's putting out. Gotta redo now but I sure don't want to buy another box because I mess up this one
Congrats on your new farm. Looks like a lot more average. I'm sure in the future you're going to find a way to collect the rain water coming from the gutter. I would have mounted the charger on the inside of that 4x4 under the porch.
So, the entire 'trunk line" the uninsulated wire is electrified from outlet to end? And it is bare wire? So if I touch the trunk line I get shocked? How do you anchor the end of the trunk line? I am not electrically proficient.
Thank you. Great info
If you touch the insulated or uninsulated wires you'll get shocked .They're both hot.
This is basically how an electrified high tensile perimeter fence & poly wire reels work in a rotational grazing setup. I think what some people have trouble visualizing when dealing with electric fencing is that the hot wires DO NOT have to make a closed loop. The hot wire can just jut out and stop like it does here. The hot wire is primed with electrical potential by the energizer. The circuit is completed when something touching the ground contacts the hot wire.
Also, I'm pretty sure the fence actually works better when there isn't a closed loop
I was thinking of doing this! Thank you for showing me a way it could be done!
I been using old exstion cords 12/2 dont know how long it will last. And a smart switch so i can turn the fence off from anywhere i have internet or phone service.
I noticed you didn’t cover the charger. Do you have to? Of it rains in it will it mess it up?
hey great vid.
I'm basically doing the same, I have T post fencing for main grazing areas ( 4 in total ) and picked up 4 of the temp fencing to move around some grazing areas, problem is as soon as I connect the temp fencing my voltage drops by half
If I just connect 1 temp fence voltage is great, as soon as 2nd temp fence is connected it drops it to half. I've even disconnected one of the other pastures to see if it's the charger but 25miles has not been reached .
It only drops when I connect a second temp fence with the provided connectors ...
any thoughts.?
thanks
Enjoyed the video.
On our property, I'm using tsc largest ~200 mile ac charger to assist keeping out anything not belonging on our 18 acres. It will put anything in the front row on Sunday morning!
Would I need to adjust this voltage down and what would you suggest? TY
My daughter has a neighbor that has a viscous pit that keeps jumping the fence and getting into her yard with her dogs.
How does it do with snow etc….we live in Nebraska and I do want high voltage
Since the insulated wire could lay on the ground, assuming you could stake around the wire and cover lighting with dirt? Would you ever bury the wire? I think you said but would be great if you could put which insulated wire you used? Thanks!!
You CAN but it will fail in time like everything else
I'm still trying to figure out what you did different. I watched the video twice and don't see it.
Billy, you rock! Thanks for that tip! Great idea and no worries about touching that jumper wire since it's insulated! Great video, as always. We wish we had found your videos years ago. Do you have a video explaining how you / how to built your drive-thru electric gate? (Hahaha... The Lord answered my question even before I asked it... It was right there on the right, in the Recommended videos. How funny!) God Bless you and yours brother!
The Lord and Google lol...They know what you're saying, thinking, and will buy months in advance just based on your habits online. Have you ever noticed things like what you just mentioned?? You write, to someone asking about garden hoses and then bam....in your feed, there is the garden hose of your dreams! It must be meant to be to buy it....or marketing tactics are just really crazy good on Google. As an E commerce shop owner, I do get to see a tiny bit of what they can do to sell products, or influence someone psychologically to do something such as sign up for an email, buy a product, go to a website, etc. I like your idea a lot more, and choose to believe that the Lord is running Google ultimately anyways so....have a good one and thanks for your service.
can you connect multiple fence chargers to the same line?
That’s probably not a good idea.
No.
@@PermaPasturesFarm21
I see, so basically you jumped one hot-wire-fence to the other (sharing juice) to enclosure around the sheep w/out need of another "Energizer" or losing any voltage...
Awesome video! Thank you, Sir.
Thank you.
WOW!!! THANK YOU, FOR THE GREAT VIDEO!!! Perhaps, use "spark-plug" wires, as your connecting leads. They are capable of safely carrying very high voltages.
Would cost thousands.
But isn’t the trunk line live then too?
He has two lines. The uninsulated wire running on the yellow insulators on the T post and an insulated red wife connecting the uninsulated wire to the netting. The red wire is insulated, but both would be carrying a charge when the electricity is turned on.
My feed lines are 10' in the air you can drive a tractor under them.
you are AWESOME!!!! TY
Hey Billy. i sent your video to someone to watch and they said this. What do you think?
Ehh, that guy has some really bad electric fence practices. Don't use regular insulated wire it will quickly arc thru to the ground and will be hard to find. They make special insulated wire for electric fences. I find even those get cracked and ground out where you can't see it. I only run electric above ground, not on or under. Don't use 2 different types of metal on an electric fence. Keep it galvanized to galvanized or aluminum to aluminum. You get bimetalic corrosion very quickly between the two which lessens the charge. Same with your ground rod. If you are using copper ground rod use copper wire. I stick with galvanized ground rods so I can always use the same galvanized wire. Don't daisy chain seperate net fence pens together. You can put 3 nets hooked together vis metal clips for 1 large pen but I wouldn't have seperate pens connected thru each other, send out a seperate line to your mainline. Also, use those metal clips on the nets. Every individual wire is attached to those so you get good contact on all, just wrapping a wire around the polywire doesn't insure this. Grounds rods are super important even in super wet nh. Follow manufacturer recommendations on energizer for ground rods. When we have a summer drought one ground rod often isn't enough. Check connections on ground rods periodically for corrosion. Remember that ground is 50% of you fence and often where the issues lie.
Neon transformer? 15,000v
Seriously.. no kidding.. sorry, but that's kind of the way the electric fence is. Designed to work .... I've had cattle horses hogs all my life I'm 48.. this is how it's been done for years... .thank u for ur hard work, and the content of ur video is good.. b UT, that's the way Ben has done for years..
.. lol😂😂😂😂 I do have a question. wwhT was the comment b out not being in the desert with ground rods..?
In a dry climate it is much harder to keep ground rods working. People actually have to water the ground rods and have a series of several of them.
Trying to wrap my mind around this - do you let the insulated wire just lay on the ground or is it raised up in the air. I'm thinking about running 3 wires around the property but additional around the garden for the critters that are already living in the perimeter. Don't you worry about someone touching the live wire accidentally? It sounds like a lot of energy. So with electric fence it does not need to be like a complete circuit? Appreciate you sharing your work and the things you have already figured out.
The insulated wire can lay on the ground. The risk of someone touching it is always there but it’s not enough to do any real harm because the voltage is high but the current (which causes harm) is negligible.
There’s no need to make a complete circuit.
Good to know, thanks. I bought a 6 joule charger which may be too much for chickens. But I’ll also have sheep soon. Eventually pigs and perhaps cows, who knows?
That’s the perfect charger to handle all of those things!
I forgot to ask how far between T posts, 16 or 20 ft? Would you suggest a knife blade shut off switch for when it’s not in use, or when my landlord brush hogs that pasture? (He will stop once I have animals on it) lots of sedge now. This should save some money too. My only expenses would be the t posts and the wire. Unless I can repurpose some old wood posts or rusty old t posts from a broken fence. (If I can remove them.)
@@Skashoon I generally walk five paces between posts so I’m guessing that’s around 15 feet... and definitely add some means to turn it off.
Some good point there I will use. Can you or have you done a review on the premier one netting? I recently bought a European made net off ebay, and I’m less than impressed with the quality of the flimsy plastic poles. My Gallagher solar charger is pumping out 6500v all day here in Australia.
We’ve never done a review on Premier One netting...but we will. Australia, New Zealand and Germany make the best chargers but Premier one make the best netting.
Ain't a pump unless you got dingle balls on your chicken tractor! Lol
Right on!
He does have a passion for permaculture 😁
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I been doing the same thing for years iv got bad hot box lol silver streak
"came up with it a while ago and been using it for years"
what
Damn bro just tell us how to do it already
Unplug it and move it really
This is mind numbing, way too much talking, please just tell me how to do it please & thank you
I watched you talk for that long to have you say to connect an electric fence charger to the electric fence wire? thumbs down
Bro please do mankind a favor and don't make any more videos . May God have mercy on your soul