Im a ballroom/Latin dancer and the thought of only having 30 minutes and then going out and performing actually gives me anxiety I remember having to learn a routine in just over a week once and I have never been so stressed
I was a competition dancer when I was younger and I’ve done it in 30 but not well I’ve also done one with my teacher changing the choreography 5 minutes on stage however she didn’t treat us the way abby did those girls we were told by our teacher that it was our teachers fault for changing it or not having us enough time and would give us another week or 2 but we also competed routines 2-3 times
Maddie learning routines with an acting coach and then being praised for her emotions and “Maddie face” for the entirety of her time on the show with that being the reason she booked so many jobs and the other kids being put down for it makes me feel sick for them. All of them. I knew most of it wasn’t fair or honest but that’s taken the cake
That small clip at the end with Chloe finishing her turn and dropping to the floor was so graceful. I’m sure Abby was lowkey mad she did that so well too. She actually placed 1st in her category on that episode but the producers made it look like she lost to Maddie.
@@corimoon3360 in which one because in one of them they just show the age categories and in the other they only show maddies it makes sense as to why they didn't show it just like they didn't show maddies other category or maddie winning her special award
@@corimoon3360 they never show first for categories, only first over alls. Which sometimes have multiple age categories combined. Idk if you’re a competitive dancer so I’m sorry if I’m sharing info you already know but at dance competitions there’s a million different 1st place awards given out. For each age category there’s a first place for each style of dance at each level. Depending on how much time you rehearse each week (with the exception of the DM teams as they were always in the highest difficulty level despite the short time they worked on each dance) there’s usually three different categories. Different names but basically a beginner, average and advanced levels. That means if there’s 3 lyrical solos all in the same age category but in different levels each of them has the opportunity to get first in their category. And that goes for every style of dance competed (there were times my sister and I were the only solos in our category so we by default got the first place trophy) in every difficulty level in every age category. While the show only shows overalls and gives the appearance that awards last around 30 minutes (they only show about 5 tho) an average award ceremony is between an hour and a half and two hours long. With multiple award ceremonies happening throughout each day of the competition. Saying that I never competed in somewhere like LA or New York, I can’t even imagine how long those competitions are.
11:20 this is very true. A lot of advanced tricks and leaps nia can execute very well. (Penches, full back splits, needle, scorpion, switch side leap, butterfly) They purposely don’t give certain moves and limit them to keep the audience perceiving them as the roles or characters they were assigned. ( Chloe being seconds, Nia and Paige being weak)
In the moulin rouge dance nia did a layout, something that usually only Kalani an Brooke did (sometimes Kenzie) but she never performed it on a solo, or turns in group dances after Chloe leaved nia did turns sections along Kendall an Maddie and she kept quiet well even tho she was lefty and was turning to the right, just imagen a solo where nia did a la seconds to the right and then to the left, it would elevate her, however people still belief that she wasn't a turner (on girls night out in the recital and on a dance off show called dollhouse, we can see nia, Maddie and Kendall having turns sections)
@@astralwishes13I just watched the dollhouse group dance .. Nia was in the turn sequences with Maddie and Kendall. They painted her out to be so subpar
speaking as a dancer of 14 years, you do learn to pick up choreography quickly with experience, especially if the choreo has familiar steps/is what you're used to. even though all of these dancers were incredibly talented, I cannot IMAGINE being 9 years old and being expected to learn a dance in half an hour, run it less than 3 times, and be expected to be perfect/win a title.
10:23 We actually see this in Season 1, when Maddie was the only girl without a prop in the Sugar Daddies dance, the one with the lollipop props. Since Maddie was the only one without a lollipop, your eyes naturally go to her. So while Christi was portrayed as jealous of Maddie, she was actually right all along.
christi & kelly recently claimed that kenzie also got extra time to learn the group dances! they said this was also probably why she pretty much had every other week off during the earlier seasons, i’m assuming this was all because she WAS so much younger than them and needed the extra time to be able to keep up with the other girls.
Abby made sure to wreck every single dance of Chloe’s, and if she couldn’t wreck Chloe’s dance, she wrecked her confidence to perform it. The thing with Maddie’s “emotions” in her dance, is it was just a performance, it wasn’t real, it was forced. Chloe actually showed emotions that were authentic and real, if you watch her “another girl” solo, she really was feeling as sad and defeated as she looked on that stage. You can’t take that away from her that everything she did was from her heart, and not because a teacher taught her to do it. She didn’t need a million plastic trophies every week to validate her, she was amazing without even trying, and Abby hated that everyone loved her. I’m not knocking Maddie’s hard work, Maddie’s amazing, but those other kids were beaten down for years while the world elevated her week after week, all of those children deserved “Maddie” treatment and they all would have delivered a “Maddie” performance. Abby never would have put Maddie on stage with a solo she taught her on the bus! :/
@@journee.ww444chloe often lost emotion once she started losing her passion after being constantly crushed down in earlier seasons i think her real emotion is pretty good
It's so messed up that producers etc got away with things like sleep deprivation and over work of children, setting up children to be yelled at or punished for things out of their control, and preventing them from getting proper schooling. What garbage human beings
The amount of pressure and mind-games all these girls had to endure is heartbreaking. No wonder why so many of them lost their passion to dance by the time that they left the show.
We all pretty much knew all this, but it’s so awesome to have it confirmed. I agree Abby had WAYY too much control. She was intent on sabotage. They’re all her dancers. It makes no sense!! I’m so obsessed with your videos!!!
I think in these cases it was a mixture of Abby AND the producers. Sometimes the sabotage came from Abby, others the producers and then finally we had times when it was both
@@melaniebrown6805 all the girls wanted careers as dancers. Paige and Chloe wanted to be Rockettes. Brooke was the one that even tried something different than entertainment. There’s absolutely no excuse for that mess
The one about Maddie surprised me with her acting lessons because they made it seem like she was gifted and a prodigy but it was because she was given lessons rather than born with it. Not takin g anything away from her abilities but it’s Interesting
I'm not surprised that Say Something Say Anything received a perfect score because it literally is perfect. Before I started watching the show I would watch random dances from the show on RUclips and when I saw that dance I instantly became obsessed and watched it over and over and over for days. Still one of my favourite pieces of choreo and performances ever. Before I ever watched the show Kalani was my favourite solely based off of that solo. It is WILD that she only learned it in 30 minutes and performed it FLAWLESSLY
In one of your earlier videos you tried to compare maddie and chloe’s choreo saying yes rehearsal time is important but it’s also how you do the steps-basically trying to say maddie just did her steps better. But we know abby (and other choreographers) spent extra time with maddie but also anyone with eyes can see that (after season 2) the effort they put in maddie’s choreo was not the same.. not even close. christi always sounded “crazy” and “jealous” but she knew the truth.
Its the acting coach at the studio for Maddie that’s finishing me off. They used Maddies great acting to put down the other girls in ever season and they hired her and only her a damn acting coach
@@cassyvjlee5925 and in early seasons, abby used to compliment paige and nia on their acting but later on she acted like only maddie was a good actor lol. she’s ridiculous.
I’ve been re watching dance moms for nostalgic purposes, and I think my biggest take away is that the producers were completely oblivious to the main audience watching this show for the entire time. They were trying to hard to tailor it to like a real housewives audience, but most of the people watching it weren’t adult women it was girls the same age as the dancers. Like I don’t care about the moms screaming at each other over drama that was clearly set up, I want to hear more about the competitions and the dancing.
That last comment about how fast you learn dances is so true. The speed at which you learn dances says nothing about your talent, but sadly it can make or break you in the dance world, especially with things like auditions and such. It's a bit of a double edged sword
It’s so crazy how Abby wanted to sabotage her own dancers like you’re an adult woman but you can’t put your differences aside from a mother to the child it’s disgusting. What I have to say though is not only were the girls under pressure because they had to be prove they were on the same level as Maddie. Maddie had pressure because she had to perfect all the time. All of the girls deserved better! I also think this is the proof people needed for them to see that certain dancers did get extra privileges and more practice and more rehearsals and acting coaches. To many people like to say Maddie won because she worked hard well that may be true, but she also had advantages to that hard work. I also think Maddie herself hated this and hated the favoritism which a few of the fandom to need to accept. Maddie didn’t like the attention all the time because it was hurting her friends and her mental well being. Shame on Abby, the producers, AND MELISSA!!
Maddie didn't have any pressure on her when she was getting way more rehearsal time than the other girls, and I never saw that Maddie didn't like the favoritism if anything she expected it, and that is something that members of the fandom need to realize.
@@kellymcquay2626 Have you seen her when she messes up? She was freaking out, histarically. She was always scared to lose or be less than perfect. It isn't the same kind of mistreatment the others faced, that is true, but it doesn't mean that she wasn't mistreated. Furthermore, she was excluded from her friends. Always put on a pedastol. She was a literal kid. Of course she liked attention, but she also didn't realise what was being done. You could only tell in her weaker moments just what all of the attention does to her and the pressure to be perfect.
@Kikiricki11 Pressure wasn't Maddies problem arrogance was. Maddie thought she was better than everyone else, she thought she was perfect, and would never make a mistake a she thought she was he only one who deserved to win. When she would mess up she couldn't handle it. If she didn't win first she was always a sore loser, she was never happy for anyone else. And this whole hysterical thing she did was so fake, she loved playing the victim, because she never had a reason to think Abby was going to treat her poorly or yell at her. Do you want to talk about the difference in how Abby treated the other girls? We could also talk about all the times she yanked the trophy/placque out of the other girls hands.
Chloe did great what she was given sometimes, but sometimes you can tell that Maddie was given more advanced choreo. Abby’s low expectations of Chloe and high expectations of Maddie led to Maddie performing better at times, hence why her confidence wasn’t wrecked like Chloe’s., hence the Pygmalion Effect.
@@kellymcquay2626 Maddie’s story of abuse is so far from bs. Just like Abby doesn’t need to degrade the other girls to uplift Maddie, you don’t need to do the reverse.
@@kaceynm what alleged abuse did Maddie suffer from?? I watched her have everything handled, never yelled at if she lost, was comforted when she forgot her dance. Abby would lie and cheat on numerous occasions to help Maddie win, to get special opportunities outside of Dance Moms. Maddie was half way yelled at 3 times in 6 seasons, which very seldom lasted more than a day, she was never verbally or emotionally bullied , telling her that people are jealous of her and never be happy for was wrong, but it only fed into Maddie's ego, it wasn't abusive, was there pressure? Yes, but every single girl was pressured to learn dances and win, the difference is Maddie never had to worry about Abby torturing her if she didn't win. Maddie started out a loveable brat but turned into an arrogant, selfish sore loser , who lied and hurt her friends, just so she could win. The only disservice Abby did to Maddie was to make her think she was better than she really was.
@@kellymcquay2626 oh so your just ignorant? there’s other types of emotional abuse than just completely destroying a kids self confidence and whatever else abby did to the other girls. don’t compare children’s trauma please. maddie also suffered. just in a different way. yes she was still treated better by abby than everyone else, but other things, like abby crying and telling maddie that she should’ve disobeyed her mother when they did the sit out in season 4? i think it was. abby crying because maddie didn’t go in the studio. you can see multiple times throughout the series the pressure that was put on maddie affected her deeply. Just as it did with everyone else. stop demeaning how children felt because they didn’t get yelled at on camera
@@kaileem3048 so Maddie's abuse was : being treated like a queen and put on a pedestal, having everything handed to you, never being yelled at for losing, being comforted when forgetting your dance, having a teacher that did every underhanded thing she could to keep you on top, cheating for you to steal your teammate's first place win, getting all the outside opportunities because your teacher lies and says the other girls are not available, and becoming so selfish and arrogant that you lie to your friends and stab them in the back,. Poor little Maddie , she suffered so much. LOL!!! 😆 😆 😆
Will there be a DM Unedited Season 6? 🙏🙏 there was SO much drama that season! would love to know if Jess & Jill were just as horrible to Brynn in the notes as they were on screen and the Ziegler’s leaving drama!
For the first part, this was lightly covered on the Dance Moms Uncovered video on Why the moms targeted Brynn that Jess was gaining up Ashlee for the show and Jill did an interview that she did not hate Brynn. Having said that, it would be a good idea if there was more information on this topic. As for the second part, if you are talking about why Mackenzie was left out, this was discussed on the video on the video on whether Melissa favoured Maddie, but if you meant with Mackenzie’s last solo against Areana in season six, that would be an interesting if the production notes for Maddie and Mackenzie’s last episode for dance Moms unedited.
I mean, practicing in hotel hallways and changing choreo right before the performance is extremely normal in competitive dance. its really not as scandalous as it sounds. I went to a completely normal studio with a completely normal coach and owner and we did those things too.
The mums said she pressured the other kids but gave maddie a pep talk yes but her pep talk was you have to be on top you have to win you have to be perfect that's alot of pressure too
Exactly! That’s one big point I disagree with. Maddie had just as much pressure as the other girls just differently. The others got the pressure of doing well even without much support, in fear of getting yelled at and insulted. However, the expectations Abby had for Maddie were higher than those for any other dancer on the show so Maddie had a near impossible expectation to reach. “You won this whole thing, you can win that whole thing.”
@Yana Ji exactly and she was punished differently the other girls were screamed at and bullied but with maddie it was things like taking away her solos and treating her like she didn't exist like when any of the girls forgot their dances it was they have to get right back on the house and do a solo the next week when maddie forgot she said no she needs a break and didn't want to give her one for weeks
I don't know, it does seem like abby coddled maddie more. Yes, she still put A LOT of pressure on that girl but she 1000% was nicer and kinder to maddie in her pep talks. Especially when Maddie forgot her dance. Abby cried and cried and told her it was okay and everyone forgets but when Nia, Paige, or Chloe forgot Abby yelled and screamed and told them they weren't good enough dancers. She still put pressure on all of them, but she was definitely kinder and more gentle towards maddie.
@mikayladaciolas the part that where she was harder on Maddie was for example when nia forgot her dance she got hugged by all the girls and got to dance again maddie was given the chance to dance again abby wouldn't let her and when all the girls went to hug maddie she said no we aren't doing that and wouldn't allow the girls to comfort maddie
@@mikayladaciolas That’s because Abby didn’t allow anyone else to comfort Maddie. When say, Chloe was hurt when she forgot her solo, the girls ran to her immediately to comfort her and her mom was kind and gentle with her. Melissa rarely comforted Maddie with anything and Abby always told Maddie that her friends and their moms were jealous of her and didn’t want to see her succeed, so Maddie never went to them for comfort or help. The whole seemingly “coddling” was emotional manipulation.
Unbelievable, the producers are child abusers. The kids are overworked for the shows, and for hours and hours, this is crazy. I would pulled out my kid. Who knows, later in life the kids might have metal health issues.
one thing i’ve always thought is that i think abby is kind of bold for continuing to name-drop the girls for content when all this info is coming out about the reality of what the girls and moms went through. abby will claim her training got the girls to where they are now, but considering a lot of the girls have gone no-contact with her, i think it’s weird she is still always talking about them after all she put them through.
i recently watched the episode of this series (dance moms uncovered) about kenzie and her foot. I have the same foot condition as kenz, and it is painful as a person who plays softball and runs track. my practices are only about 2 hours long so I couldn’t imagine being on the foot for hours upon hours in a dance studio. the bone gets inflamed when there is too much activity. she probably rolled it,or twisted it to start making it inflamed and she kept using it so it started to continue hurting. I have a pair of special made insoles to help support my foot during sports; it hurts really bad. During the scene of her doing cartwheels you can easily see that she wasn’t putting her foot in the ground, and even if she did it wouldn’t hurt unless she did it 10-15 times in a row.
It’s so wild because all the other studios were working on their routines for months. These girls are so much more incredible than the show portrayed .. which was already very impressive!
As a competition dancer, I still am shocked that kalani learned a dance in 30 mins and got a perfect 300 score. If I learned one in 30 mims( I’ve been dancing for 13+ yrs) I would’ve ran off stage!
Short time for learning and practicing mean dancers are extraordinary and teacher the best. Moms are under the pressure and their own fear but kids achieve so many awards and this is what matters not hours and day of practicing and do not achieve
thank you for the great video! watching this reminded me of smth I've always wondered - how many of these dances actually qualified the ALDC for Nationals? Because you see with a lot of other dance teams that competed against them throughout the season, that they start rehearsals much earlier and are almost always better prepared, especially when they did the same solo at different competitions. It always seemed excessive to me that they needed to go to a competition every single week, that was insane!
10:14 The beast claims to this day that the girls never went to class. Kids who “didn’t go to class” were deemed as less talented and average. You can also tell how Abby feels about a certain person through the choreography the girls were given. Maddie: was given advanced choreography and better costumes since she was Abby’s puppet and favorite. Chloe: was given average choreography because she sees smart moms from humble beginnings as “average”. Brooke & Paige: were given poor choreography because she clearly has something against Kelly (probably because she left her studio at a young age? Who knows) Nia: was given cultural appropriated choreography with bad costumes because Abby has something against educated moms, especially ones of color. Mackenzie: was given choreography that was just like Maddie (since Abby compared them often🙄)
yes, it was revealed that when paige wasn’t prepared for double take and forgot, kelly felt like that was her worst moment as a mom so every time she felt like her kids weren’t prepared and something might’ve happened on stage that hurt their confidence, she’d pull it
You have to set up a video interview with Abby. With all of your research and info it would be amazing to see what she has to say in response to some of this
Why do y’all wanna torture this girl by having her interview such a disgusting person? 😭 we all know Abby isn’t gonna own up to anything. She’ll just find another excuse to explain all her atrocities.
Abby would do everything in her power to ruin this girl’s reputation because she is a narcissistic bully. It’s best that she doesn’t ever interact with that woman😭😭
This is what the business is like. It’s not typical for kids just going to dance competitions, but this is typical if you’re a professional performer. I’ve performed shows (acting) with no rehearsal multiple times. So of course someone like Kelly would complain because she wanted her kids to be “normal.” But any of the kids who really wanted to work in the industry should be thankful for the opportunity to learn what it’s really like and prepare for that lifestyle.
I don't know if you're aware but piper Rockelle has been cancelled. Markie did a video about it and I left the link to your video about teen influencers on his comments
They didn't put her down, they were telling the truth, Maddie was not under any type of pressure when she was getting 10 times the rehearsal time the other girls got, and Abby would purposely sabotage the other girls, especially Chloe, so Maddie could win. What is vile is you disregarding the verbal and emotional abuse the other girls received and portraying Maddie as a victim which she wasn't, as this video clearly shows.
They never blame maddie ..they say maddie was a child and none of this was her choice they have never put maddie down personally only the unfair treatment and double standard which is aimed at Abby and Melissa not maddie
it’s crazy how obsessed they were about getting it all in on the show. the reason they had such short time, is because of labor laws and not being aloud on camera. there’s nothing legally stopping them from getting extra time off camera, they probably just didn’t allow it.
What I can’t I understand why Maddie and Kensy had those privileges and the other dancers dont I’m a retired now but I use to be a competition Dancer since I was 3 to 17 years old and never saw something like Abby and Melissa did
In regards to giving more complex solos, everyone other than Maddie. I do not think Abby is correct, but Melissa pulled Maddie from school so she could learn it, something the other mom would never do with that in mind, and they had less time to learn the dance. That is probably why they are so simple. Melissa allowed Maddie to get more complex dances and why homeschooling was such a big deal because homeschooling was used to help Maddie and Mackenzie out a lot. Abby gave the best solos to Maddie because she knew that Melissa would let Maddie get more time, and by the time Kenzie was a part of the show, she knew all the ways to give her kids as many advantages as possible.
This is why it’s so stupid when people compare other dancers who learn their solos in 4 months, and have time to take classes and work on their technique to these girls who barely had an hour to learn routines
Abby was also angry with the moms that they kept the gorls on school instead of having private tutors so they could dance anytime Abby wanted. Yeah tutors still need a schedule
Auditions and competition is everything for Abby, if there wasn't originally an audition she would make darn sure to create one. Miss the opportunity to manipulate and bully the girls with this huge "opportunity"? Sounds way far fetched to me....
With what you are telling us straight from the producers’ notes, it's obvious that they manipulated everything. Instead of blaming Abby for every wretched act, and she had many, why can't blame be put on the producers? Idk why she is made responsible for the actions of producers. In addition, why can't you also report on the brutal actions and words of the mothers? I'm not defending Abby’s bad behavior, but she wasn't the only one. The mothers fought, cursed, talked cruelly about other kids in front of the kids, and made fun of Abby’s weight. Jill and Jess were the meanest! They both degraded Brynn in front of her. Jill and Melissa were jealous suckups. The whole thing was a mess. But to blame Abby for all the problems is just wrong. So many lies were told and now we see how the producers provoked everything. Now that some girls are famous they act like they don't remember Dance Moms and Abby. the show made them. They should be grateful. And if they felt abused on the show, they should have left. Kira walked out. Jess walked out. Kelly and Christy walked out. So they could leave anytime. 😳
They couldn’t leave anytime they were on contracts and if they left they would be sueued.Anyways your literally contradicting yourself you said the producers made Abby’s bad behaviour but don’t you think they made the moms say things aswell.It’s all the producers and a little bit of Abby like it says in the video how Abby wouldn’t give the girls good solos but mainly the producers
Despite the criticisms, participation on the Dance Moms Show, with ALL its difficulties, taught the girls to overcome obstacles to succeed in life. Thank Abbie Lee Miller for this.
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as a competition dancer myself i couldnt imagine learning a whole dance in 30 mins and then being able to do it well enough for a stage.
Im a ballroom/Latin dancer and the thought of only having 30 minutes and then going out and performing actually gives me anxiety
I remember having to learn a routine in just over a week once and I have never been so stressed
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As a professional dancer, I can't imagine learning a whole dance in 30 min. Like I need a couple hours at least
that's what I'm saying! I'm stressed out learning a dance in less than 2 weeks lol
I was a competition dancer when I was younger and I’ve done it in 30 but not well I’ve also done one with my teacher changing the choreography 5 minutes on stage however she didn’t treat us the way abby did those girls we were told by our teacher that it was our teachers fault for changing it or not having us enough time and would give us another week or 2 but we also competed routines 2-3 times
Paige had the worst luck honestly, so much she was sabotaged, so unfair
Looking at this information now does anyone still think that Nia had the same sabotage as Paige did?
Why are we comparing trauma.. Paige and Nia both suffered sabotage by Abby and the producers.
@@samiemily7467 are you talking about the op comment or the reply
@@samiemily7467 They didn't even belittle Nia's trauma
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Maddie learning routines with an acting coach and then being praised for her emotions and “Maddie face” for the entirety of her time on the show with that being the reason she booked so many jobs and the other kids being put down for it makes me feel sick for them. All of them. I knew most of it wasn’t fair or honest but that’s taken the cake
And as Holly once pointed out it was always the same face. The other girls did more with their faces without the extra help.
That small clip at the end with Chloe finishing her turn and dropping to the floor was so graceful. I’m sure Abby was lowkey mad she did that so well too. She actually placed 1st in her category on that episode but the producers made it look like she lost to Maddie.
Shegot 1st in one of her categories she got 2nd in the other
Yup They did not even dNce the SAME age category
@@Amber.28. she placed 1st tho… and the producers didn’t show it. She wasn’t in the same category as Maddie but they made it look like she was.
@@corimoon3360 in which one because in one of them they just show the age categories and in the other they only show maddies it makes sense as to why they didn't show it just like they didn't show maddies other category or maddie winning her special award
@@corimoon3360 they never show first for categories, only first over alls. Which sometimes have multiple age categories combined. Idk if you’re a competitive dancer so I’m sorry if I’m sharing info you already know but at dance competitions there’s a million different 1st place awards given out. For each age category there’s a first place for each style of dance at each level. Depending on how much time you rehearse each week (with the exception of the DM teams as they were always in the highest difficulty level despite the short time they worked on each dance) there’s usually three different categories. Different names but basically a beginner, average and advanced levels. That means if there’s 3 lyrical solos all in the same age category but in different levels each of them has the opportunity to get first in their category. And that goes for every style of dance competed (there were times my sister and I were the only solos in our category so we by default got the first place trophy) in every difficulty level in every age category. While the show only shows overalls and gives the appearance that awards last around 30 minutes (they only show about 5 tho) an average award ceremony is between an hour and a half and two hours long. With multiple award ceremonies happening throughout each day of the competition. Saying that I never competed in somewhere like LA or New York, I can’t even imagine how long those competitions are.
11:20 this is very true. A lot of advanced tricks and leaps nia can execute very well. (Penches, full back splits, needle, scorpion, switch side leap, butterfly) They purposely don’t give certain moves and limit them to keep the audience perceiving them as the roles or characters they were assigned. ( Chloe being seconds, Nia and Paige being weak)
In the moulin rouge dance nia did a layout, something that usually only Kalani an Brooke did (sometimes Kenzie) but she never performed it on a solo, or turns in group dances after Chloe leaved nia did turns sections along Kendall an Maddie and she kept quiet well even tho she was lefty and was turning to the right, just imagen a solo where nia did a la seconds to the right and then to the left, it would elevate her, however people still belief that she wasn't a turner (on girls night out in the recital and on a dance off show called dollhouse, we can see nia, Maddie and Kendall having turns sections)
@@estefaniarivera1740 OMG YES HOW DID I FORGET?? that girl was so versatile
nia was such a great dancer and SO versatile. it’s a shame they never let her show off her true skill
@@astralwishes13I just watched the dollhouse group dance .. Nia was in the turn sequences with Maddie and Kendall. They painted her out to be so subpar
speaking as a dancer of 14 years, you do learn to pick up choreography quickly with experience, especially if the choreo has familiar steps/is what you're used to. even though all of these dancers were incredibly talented, I cannot IMAGINE being 9 years old and being expected to learn a dance in half an hour, run it less than 3 times, and be expected to be perfect/win a title.
10:23 We actually see this in Season 1, when Maddie was the only girl without a prop in the Sugar Daddies dance, the one with the lollipop props. Since Maddie was the only one without a lollipop, your eyes naturally go to her. So while Christi was portrayed as jealous of Maddie, she was actually right all along.
christi & kelly recently claimed that kenzie also got extra time to learn the group dances! they said this was also probably why she pretty much had every other week off during the earlier seasons, i’m assuming this was all because she WAS so much younger than them and needed the extra time to be able to keep up with the other girls.
Abby made sure to wreck every single dance of Chloe’s, and if she couldn’t wreck Chloe’s dance, she wrecked her confidence to perform it. The thing with Maddie’s “emotions” in her dance, is it was just a performance, it wasn’t real, it was forced. Chloe actually showed emotions that were authentic and real, if you watch her “another girl” solo, she really was feeling as sad and defeated as she looked on that stage. You can’t take that away from her that everything she did was from her heart, and not because a teacher taught her to do it. She didn’t need a million plastic trophies every week to validate her, she was amazing without even trying, and Abby hated that everyone loved her. I’m not knocking Maddie’s hard work, Maddie’s amazing, but those other kids were beaten down for years while the world elevated her week after week, all of those children deserved “Maddie” treatment and they all would have delivered a “Maddie” performance. Abby never would have put Maddie on stage with a solo she taught her on the bus! :/
@@journee.ww444chloe often lost emotion once she started losing her passion after being constantly crushed down in earlier seasons i think her real emotion is pretty good
It's so messed up that producers etc got away with things like sleep deprivation and over work of children, setting up children to be yelled at or punished for things out of their control, and preventing them from getting proper schooling. What garbage human beings
The amount of pressure and mind-games all these girls had to endure is heartbreaking. No wonder why so many of them lost their passion to dance by the time that they left the show.
they lost their passion so we could find ours for dance still so sad
I cant imagine having to go through this as a child
Me too.
MacKenzie was like 6 or 7.😳😒😭🤔😐
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I heard that the solo Brooke learned on the bus was the one she did of her song "Cuz I hurt"
I was going to guess it was I hurt as well.
It's just I HURTNOT CUZ I HURT
@@tameemganief5987 okay relax it's not a BIG deal
@@TheSt0nerPrincess well "cuz" would be a very incorrect word to start a song title with....its not even a word
@@kelsey2333 stop overreacting
We all pretty much knew all this, but it’s so awesome to have it confirmed. I agree Abby had WAYY too much control. She was intent on sabotage. They’re all her dancers. It makes no sense!! I’m so obsessed with your videos!!!
She was always mean to the kids to piss off the moms
I think in these cases it was a mixture of Abby AND the producers. Sometimes the sabotage came from Abby, others the producers and then finally we had times when it was both
Yeah the moms especially Christie and Kelly points it out all the time
I think it was because the other girls had other goals and Maddie just planned on Broadway
@@melaniebrown6805 all the girls wanted careers as dancers. Paige and Chloe wanted to be Rockettes. Brooke was the one that even tried something different than entertainment. There’s absolutely no excuse for that mess
The one about Maddie surprised me with her acting lessons because they made it seem like she was gifted and a prodigy but it was because she was given lessons rather than born with it. Not takin g anything away from her abilities but it’s Interesting
I'm not surprised that Say Something Say Anything received a perfect score because it literally is perfect. Before I started watching the show I would watch random dances from the show on RUclips and when I saw that dance I instantly became obsessed and watched it over and over and over for days. Still one of my favourite pieces of choreo and performances ever. Before I ever watched the show Kalani was my favourite solely based off of that solo. It is WILD that she only learned it in 30 minutes and performed it FLAWLESSLY
Especially Brooke learning on the bus?? That’s crazy
In one of your earlier videos you tried to compare maddie and chloe’s choreo saying yes rehearsal time is important but it’s also how you do the steps-basically trying to say maddie just did her steps better. But we know abby (and other choreographers) spent extra time with maddie but also anyone with eyes can see that (after season 2) the effort they put in maddie’s choreo was not the same.. not even close. christi always sounded “crazy” and “jealous” but she knew the truth.
Its the acting coach at the studio for Maddie that’s finishing me off. They used Maddies great acting to put down the other girls in ever season and they hired her and only her a damn acting coach
@@cassyvjlee5925 and in early seasons, abby used to compliment paige and nia on their acting but later on she acted like only maddie was a good actor lol. she’s ridiculous.
I’ve been re watching dance moms for nostalgic purposes, and I think my biggest take away is that the producers were completely oblivious to the main audience watching this show for the entire time. They were trying to hard to tailor it to like a real housewives audience, but most of the people watching it weren’t adult women it was girls the same age as the dancers. Like I don’t care about the moms screaming at each other over drama that was clearly set up, I want to hear more about the competitions and the dancing.
Right, like those girls are what inspired me to dance.
That last comment about how fast you learn dances is so true. The speed at which you learn dances says nothing about your talent, but sadly it can make or break you in the dance world, especially with things like auditions and such. It's a bit of a double edged sword
It’s so crazy how Abby wanted to sabotage her own dancers like you’re an adult woman but you can’t put your differences aside from a mother to the child it’s disgusting. What I have to say though is not only were the girls under pressure because they had to be prove they were on the same level as Maddie. Maddie had pressure because she had to perfect all the time. All of the girls deserved better! I also think this is the proof people needed for them to see that certain dancers did get extra privileges and more practice and more rehearsals and acting coaches. To many people like to say Maddie won because she worked hard well that may be true, but she also had advantages to that hard work. I also think Maddie herself hated this and hated the favoritism which a few of the fandom to need to accept. Maddie didn’t like the attention all the time because it was hurting her friends and her mental well being. Shame on Abby, the producers, AND MELISSA!!
Maddie didn't have any pressure on her when she was getting way more rehearsal time than the other girls, and I never saw that Maddie didn't like the favoritism if anything she expected it, and that is something that members of the fandom need to realize.
@@kellymcquay2626 Have you seen her when she messes up? She was freaking out, histarically. She was always scared to lose or be less than perfect. It isn't the same kind of mistreatment the others faced, that is true, but it doesn't mean that she wasn't mistreated. Furthermore, she was excluded from her friends. Always put on a pedastol. She was a literal kid. Of course she liked attention, but she also didn't realise what was being done. You could only tell in her weaker moments just what all of the attention does to her and the pressure to be perfect.
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Pressure wasn't Maddies problem arrogance was.
Maddie thought she was better than everyone else, she thought she was perfect, and would never make a mistake a she thought she was he only one who deserved to win. When she would mess up she couldn't handle it.
If she didn't win first she was always a sore loser, she was never happy for anyone else.
And this whole hysterical thing she did was so fake, she loved playing the victim, because she never had a reason to think Abby was going to treat her poorly or yell at her.
Do you want to talk about the difference in how Abby treated the other girls?
We could also talk about all the times she yanked the trophy/placque out of the other girls hands.
This is so so wrong how she treated the likes of Paige and Chloe and Brooke, so unfair
Chloe did great what she was given sometimes, but sometimes you can tell that Maddie was given more advanced choreo. Abby’s low expectations of Chloe and high expectations of Maddie led to Maddie performing better at times, hence why her confidence wasn’t wrecked like Chloe’s., hence the Pygmalion Effect.
Thank you so much for always taking the time and effort for these incredible vids!
If this is true, maddy got way more special treatment than any of us previously thought, that’s insane
That's why I never believed Maddie's BS story of abuse
@@kellymcquay2626 Maddie’s story of abuse is so far from bs. Just like Abby doesn’t need to degrade the other girls to uplift Maddie, you don’t need to do the reverse.
@@kaceynm what alleged abuse did Maddie suffer from?? I watched her have everything handled, never yelled at if she lost, was comforted when she forgot her dance. Abby would lie and cheat on numerous occasions to help Maddie win, to get special opportunities outside of Dance Moms. Maddie was half way yelled at 3 times in 6 seasons, which very seldom lasted more than a day, she was never verbally or emotionally bullied , telling her that people are jealous of her and never be happy for was wrong, but it only fed into Maddie's ego, it wasn't abusive, was there pressure? Yes, but every single girl was pressured to learn dances and win, the difference is Maddie never had to worry about Abby torturing her if she didn't win. Maddie started out a loveable brat but turned into an arrogant, selfish sore loser , who lied and hurt her friends, just so she could win. The only disservice Abby did to Maddie was to make her think she was better than she really was.
@@kellymcquay2626 oh so your just ignorant? there’s other types of emotional abuse than just completely destroying a kids self confidence and whatever else abby did to the other girls. don’t compare children’s trauma please. maddie also suffered. just in a different way. yes she was still treated better by abby than everyone else, but other things, like abby crying and telling maddie that she should’ve disobeyed her mother when they did the sit out in season 4? i think it was. abby crying because maddie didn’t go in the studio. you can see multiple times throughout the series the pressure that was put on maddie affected her deeply. Just as it did with everyone else. stop demeaning how children felt because they didn’t get yelled at on camera
@@kaileem3048 so Maddie's abuse was : being treated like a queen and put on a pedestal, having everything handed to you, never being yelled at for losing, being comforted when forgetting your dance, having a teacher that did every underhanded thing she could to keep you on top, cheating for you to steal your teammate's first place win, getting all the outside opportunities because your teacher lies and says the other girls are not available, and becoming so selfish and arrogant that you lie to your friends and stab them in the back,. Poor little Maddie , she suffered so much.
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Will there be a DM Unedited Season 6? 🙏🙏 there was SO much drama that season! would love to know if Jess & Jill were just as horrible to Brynn in the notes as they were on screen and the Ziegler’s leaving drama!
For the first part, this was lightly covered on the Dance Moms Uncovered video on Why the moms targeted Brynn that Jess was gaining up Ashlee for the show and Jill did an interview that she did not hate Brynn. Having said that, it would be a good idea if there was more information on this topic.
As for the second part, if you are talking about why Mackenzie was left out, this was discussed on the video on the video on whether Melissa favoured Maddie, but if you meant with Mackenzie’s last solo against Areana in season six, that would be an interesting if the production notes for Maddie and Mackenzie’s last episode for dance Moms unedited.
there's a video talking about the horrible treatment towards Brynn
I mean, practicing in hotel hallways and changing choreo right before the performance is extremely normal in competitive dance. its really not as scandalous as it sounds. I went to a completely normal studio with a completely normal coach and owner and we did those things too.
Learning choreo 20 minutes before performing is crazy. Not even having music yet and then running it once is WILD
I actually screamed when I saw that u posted. Had kinda a crap day and this made it a thousand percent better
You should do an episode talking about schooling and if the girls got a proper education
The mums said she pressured the other kids but gave maddie a pep talk yes but her pep talk was you have to be on top you have to win you have to be perfect that's alot of pressure too
Exactly! That’s one big point I disagree with. Maddie had just as much pressure as the other girls just differently. The others got the pressure of doing well even without much support, in fear of getting yelled at and insulted. However, the expectations Abby had for Maddie were higher than those for any other dancer on the show so Maddie had a near impossible expectation to reach. “You won this whole thing, you can win that whole thing.”
@Yana Ji exactly and she was punished differently the other girls were screamed at and bullied but with maddie it was things like taking away her solos and treating her like she didn't exist like when any of the girls forgot their dances it was they have to get right back on the house and do a solo the next week when maddie forgot she said no she needs a break and didn't want to give her one for weeks
I don't know, it does seem like abby coddled maddie more. Yes, she still put A LOT of pressure on that girl but she 1000% was nicer and kinder to maddie in her pep talks. Especially when Maddie forgot her dance. Abby cried and cried and told her it was okay and everyone forgets but when Nia, Paige, or Chloe forgot Abby yelled and screamed and told them they weren't good enough dancers. She still put pressure on all of them, but she was definitely kinder and more gentle towards maddie.
@mikayladaciolas the part that where she was harder on Maddie was for example when nia forgot her dance she got hugged by all the girls and got to dance again maddie was given the chance to dance again abby wouldn't let her and when all the girls went to hug maddie she said no we aren't doing that and wouldn't allow the girls to comfort maddie
@@mikayladaciolas That’s because Abby didn’t allow anyone else to comfort Maddie. When say, Chloe was hurt when she forgot her solo, the girls ran to her immediately to comfort her and her mom was kind and gentle with her. Melissa rarely comforted Maddie with anything and Abby always told Maddie that her friends and their moms were jealous of her and didn’t want to see her succeed, so Maddie never went to them for comfort or help. The whole seemingly “coddling” was emotional manipulation.
Honestly nothing suprises me about shady shit that happens on this show anymore
Unbelievable, the producers are child abusers. The kids are overworked for the shows, and for hours and hours, this is crazy. I would pulled out my kid. Who knows, later in life the kids might have metal health issues.
one thing i’ve always thought is that i think abby is kind of bold for continuing to name-drop the girls for content when all this info is coming out about the reality of what the girls and moms went through. abby will claim her training got the girls to where they are now, but considering a lot of the girls have gone no-contact with her, i think it’s weird she is still always talking about them after all she put them through.
i recently watched the episode of this series (dance moms uncovered) about kenzie and her foot. I have the same foot condition as kenz, and it is painful as a person who plays softball and runs track. my practices are only about 2 hours long so I couldn’t imagine being on the foot for hours upon hours in a dance studio. the bone gets inflamed when there is too much activity. she probably rolled it,or twisted it to start making it inflamed and she kept using it so it started to continue hurting. I have a pair of special made insoles to help support my foot during sports; it hurts really bad. During the scene of her doing cartwheels you can easily see that she wasn’t putting her foot in the ground, and even if she did it wouldn’t hurt unless she did it 10-15 times in a row.
love dance moms uncovered 🥰
It’s so wild because all the other studios were working on their routines for months. These girls are so much more incredible than the show portrayed .. which was already very impressive!
I have a video idea. Can you please do an episode on the select team? What's in their contracts and the possible drama behind the scenes?
Just watched your behind the scenes video Tysm for all the hard work making these amazing videos!!
As a competition dancer, I still am shocked that kalani learned a dance in 30 mins and got a perfect 300 score. If I learned one in 30 mims( I’ve been dancing for 13+ yrs) I would’ve ran off stage!
The bus solo was I hurt, Chloe said it in a video
Short time for learning and practicing mean dancers are extraordinary and teacher the best. Moms are under the pressure and their own fear but kids achieve so many awards and this is what matters not hours and day of practicing and do not achieve
thank you for the great video!
watching this reminded me of smth I've always wondered - how many of these dances actually qualified the ALDC for Nationals? Because you see with a lot of other dance teams that competed against them throughout the season, that they start rehearsals much earlier and are almost always better prepared, especially when they did the same solo at different competitions. It always seemed excessive to me that they needed to go to a competition every single week, that was insane!
10:14 The beast claims to this day that the girls never went to class. Kids who “didn’t go to class” were deemed as less talented and average. You can also tell how Abby feels about a certain person through the choreography the girls were given.
Maddie: was given advanced choreography and better costumes since she was Abby’s puppet and favorite.
Chloe: was given average choreography because she sees smart moms from humble beginnings as “average”.
Brooke & Paige: were given poor choreography because she clearly has something against Kelly (probably because she left her studio at a young age? Who knows)
Nia: was given cultural appropriated choreography with bad costumes because Abby has something against educated moms, especially ones of color.
Mackenzie: was given choreography that was just like Maddie (since Abby compared them often🙄)
EVERYONE WAKE UP NEW MACKZBOSS VIDEO
Been watching your series since 2020 hehe
Hey MackZBoss can you pleasee make a video about Dance Moms: Miami
I wonder if thats why Kelly would pull their solos often? If so I do not blame her, all of these kids deserved better
yes, it was revealed that when paige wasn’t prepared for double take and forgot, kelly felt like that was her worst moment as a mom so every time she felt like her kids weren’t prepared and something might’ve happened on stage that hurt their confidence, she’d pull it
@@lauracynthia7175 oh I see! thats so understandable
You have to set up a video interview with Abby. With all of your research and info it would be amazing to see what she has to say in response to some of this
I would love that!!
Why do y’all wanna torture this girl by having her interview such a disgusting person? 😭 we all know Abby isn’t gonna own up to anything. She’ll just find another excuse to explain all her atrocities.
Abby would never. I bet ya, she watches these in secret.
Abby would do everything in her power to ruin this girl’s reputation because she is a narcissistic bully. It’s best that she doesn’t ever interact with that woman😭😭
This is what the business is like. It’s not typical for kids just going to dance competitions, but this is typical if you’re a professional performer. I’ve performed shows (acting) with no rehearsal multiple times. So of course someone like Kelly would complain because she wanted her kids to be “normal.” But any of the kids who really wanted to work in the industry should be thankful for the opportunity to learn what it’s really like and prepare for that lifestyle.
I don't know if you're aware but piper Rockelle has been cancelled. Markie did a video about it and I left the link to your video about teen influencers on his comments
Ha you edited your comment bc you spell pipers surname wrong
@@tvwatcher1150 usually if a person makes a mistake and notices it they'll correct it... So yes, that's what I did. Autocorrect for ya!
What was She cancelled for?
@@dreamgirl1652 her mom and the content they're producing / the over sexualization of children
@@thewoundedwarriors wow.
Usually I agree with the moms in their podcast,. It the way they put down Maddie as if she wasn't under immense pressure is so vile...
They didn't put her down, they were telling the truth, Maddie was not under any type of pressure when she was getting 10 times the rehearsal time the other girls got, and Abby would purposely sabotage the other girls, especially Chloe, so Maddie could win. What is vile is you disregarding the verbal and emotional abuse the other girls received and portraying Maddie as a victim which she wasn't, as this video clearly shows.
They never blame maddie ..they say maddie was a child and none of this was her choice they have never put maddie down personally only the unfair treatment and double standard which is aimed at Abby and Melissa not maddie
I feel bad for Maddie because everybody dislikes her for having advantages when it really isn’t her fault!
We also know that Abby sometimes wouldn’t give certain kids directions and was always looking at her phone 🙄🙄🙄
Ignorance is BLISS. Why turn off comments in selected video? Did Australia actually have issues with ALDC as produced?
Could you do a video on Dance Moms Miami or Dance Moms UK?
the dance brooke learned on the bus was season 3 “I Hurt”
it’s crazy how obsessed they were about getting it all in on the show. the reason they had such short time, is because of labor laws and not being aloud on camera. there’s nothing legally stopping them from getting extra time off camera, they probably just didn’t allow it.
Thank you for such interesting content and deep research! Could you make a video about Ashlee vs. Jill (or all of the moms...)?
i love your videos could u do moree on season 6 pls!
What I can’t I understand why Maddie and Kensy had those privileges and the other dancers dont I’m a retired now but I use to be a competition Dancer since I was 3 to 17 years old and never saw something like Abby and Melissa did
You mean Kenzie because you spelled it wrong and Kenzie is short for Mackenzie
@@deliliahbrown9366 sorry English isn’t my first language ….. but the concept of what I want to say everybody got it
@@jennifersamantha5787 ok
In regards to giving more complex solos, everyone other than Maddie. I do not think Abby is correct, but Melissa pulled Maddie from school so she could learn it, something the other mom would never do with that in mind, and they had less time to learn the dance. That is probably why they are so simple. Melissa allowed Maddie to get more complex dances and why homeschooling was such a big deal because homeschooling was used to help Maddie and Mackenzie out a lot. Abby gave the best solos to Maddie because she knew that Melissa would let Maddie get more time, and by the time Kenzie was a part of the show, she knew all the ways to give her kids as many advantages as possible.
Yet Abby thinks she did nothing wrong to this kids
Brookes solo was I hurt with her music I’m pretty sure that’s the one she learned on the bus
This is why it’s so stupid when people compare other dancers who learn their solos in 4 months, and have time to take classes and work on their technique to these girls who barely had an hour to learn routines
7:28 Who’s she talking to?
Abby was also angry with the moms that they kept the gorls on school instead of having private tutors so they could dance anytime Abby wanted. Yeah tutors still need a schedule
Bc there’s more to dance moms than the producers craeded to show!
im pretty sure the dance brooke learnt on the bus was I hurt. im not fully sure tho
In my dance school i have to learn a dance in twodays each day 5 hours sometimes 1 day 12 Hours
I'd love to see Abby on Dr Phil 😜
9:52 i was waiting for her to say the children and their mothers ....... uh okay.
These moms kept signing contracts though. They’re responsible for putting their kids through this.
So many lies but i'm glad we know some truths😮love Lillyanna
I’m glad Chloe win
Auditions and competition is everything for Abby, if there wasn't originally an audition she would make darn sure to create one. Miss the opportunity to manipulate and bully the girls with this huge "opportunity"? Sounds way far fetched to me....
California has child labor laws. Does Pennsylvania?
Love. Lilliana ❤❤❤One of the best
With what you are telling us straight from the producers’ notes, it's obvious that they manipulated everything. Instead of blaming Abby for every wretched act, and she had many, why can't blame be put on the producers? Idk why she is made responsible for the actions of producers. In addition, why can't you also report on the brutal actions and words of the mothers? I'm not defending Abby’s bad behavior, but she wasn't the only one. The mothers fought, cursed, talked cruelly about other kids in front of the kids, and made fun of Abby’s weight. Jill and Jess were the meanest! They both degraded Brynn in front of her. Jill and Melissa were jealous suckups. The whole thing was a mess. But to blame Abby for all the problems is just wrong. So many lies were told and now we see how the producers provoked everything. Now that some girls are famous they act like they don't remember Dance Moms and Abby. the show made them. They should be grateful. And if they felt abused on the show, they should have left. Kira walked out. Jess walked out. Kelly and Christy walked out. So they could leave anytime. 😳
They couldn’t leave anytime they were on contracts and if they left they would be sueued.Anyways your literally contradicting yourself you said the producers made Abby’s bad behaviour but don’t you think they made the moms say things aswell.It’s all the producers and a little bit of Abby like it says in the video how Abby wouldn’t give the girls good solos but mainly the producers
Despite the criticisms, participation on the Dance Moms Show, with ALL its difficulties, taught the girls to overcome obstacles to succeed in life. Thank Abbie Lee Miller for this.
They also have anxiety. Thanks to Abby Lee Miller