Jim Ross shoots on how announcers handled being screamed at by Vince McMahon
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Love that line "this isn't 'poor JR', I got paid a lot of money" he's not looking for a sob story, just telling you his story.
I mean JR was probably fine making a couple thousand meanwhile vince is raking in millions per episode
@@Dutchmaster707 Well Vince is the CEO , ofcourse he will be paid alot more
Thankyouuu 🤣🤣
“I earned every freaking dime”
Imagine having the attitude era crowd shouting as loud as it is humanly possible and Vince doing the same in your ear at the same time.
Yes, JR did deserve every single buck he earned. Shoutout to him
I remember reading Jonathan Coachman saying that after working shows where he had Vince screaming in his ear, he would go home with migraines from the stress. I believe it.
How he still has his hearing after all that is mind boggling to me.
@@MrStevestain. I never realized just how toxic the WWE workspace can be during it’s prime. Even wrestlers backstage having to deal with stupid high school like drama and cliques. All while giving the fans some quality entertainment.
@@JackgarPrime Didn't Michael Cole lose a lot of his hearing?
Maybe that's how he developed his Bell's Palsy?
It's just Vince wanting ABSOLUTE control over everything. Can't imagine having to deal with that. Kudos to JR
Could be very annoying, but aside from the watered down pure commercialized product we see today. He basically created the greatest period of pro wrestling we will ever see.
It’s called being micro managed.
@@youngdial6599 there was a lot on the line back then.
@@wowthatsawesome2762 I mean what made the attitude era so special was that it was more unpredictable less scripted and felt more natural. Why the product struggles today is because of Vince’s micro management. Everything that they did to beat WCW now they just throw everything away in favour of Vince being in charge of everything, simply because he can. The early years of WCW Vince didn’t evolve his product it was the same childish nonsense that insulted the audience’s intelligence only until WCW started to kick their ass Vince started to change. He was forced to adapt, the attitude era isn’t something he planned or wanted to do
100%! If that broadcast is perfect Vince can't handle it, he has to be the cock
"but i earned every friggin' dime". i felt that shit lol.
Yeah no doubt!
No amount of money is worth being treated like that.
If my employer was screaming at me every day while I’m trying to work, I’m out the door like that.
I think a few more people then Bret should have punched him out
In fucking poor and don’t have a job, I would have for someone to scream at me and give me a shit ton of money.
@@iorilamia I'm poor plus I've been handicapped my whole life, and I still walked out of jobs when I was treated with disrespect, being poor doesn't mean you can't have dignity, you'll also never catch me out on the street holding a sign like all these pathetic losers,
if Vince likes to scream at people for doing something he does not like, why doesn't he just comeback to the f'kin table and do the job himself
"What a maneuver! 1...2...YES YES HE GOT HIM!... no, just a 2 count." 😂
He used to 🤷♂️
UNBELIEVABLE
I suspect that was off the table after he became the character of himself on screen.
Because the Mr. McMahon character has overshadowed Vince the color commentator. How you don't understand this is beyond me. Vince went from not being the boss on air, to being the boss on air as well as the hottest heel in the business at one point and now he's going back to being a color commentator? No one will buy into that.
I've been in jobs where I've hated my boss & that got me down enough. JR has an amazing amount of mental toughness to be able to put up with Vince yelling in his ear week after week & still deliver with such passion!
It feels like modern day Vince McMahon wants all his wrestlers to sound like Bobby Heenan, Gorilla Monsoon & Jesse Ventura. The difference is, those guys were all being themselves so it felt natural. Everything these days sounds fake & forced. Not to mention horrible.
Vince also could not push those guys around either.
Remember when Joey Styles was brought in to replace JR because Vince wanted a new commentating style? About a month later Styles quit because he was being repeatedly criticized for not "commentating enough like JR". FFS!
@@Danimal1177 Joey Styles didn't legitimately quit, it was a work. Him leaving the commentary booth in 2006 was part of the ECW revival storyline.
I love JRs commentary on Dynamite. He brings some logic to the madness. The tag matches are often jumbled and the referee seems to have no control. JR will say exactly what I’m thinking in those moments. They should add JR to the production team if he isn’t already just in a role of getting the referees to look like they know how to keep control of a match. It’s a work we all know but it should still look realistic and like there is a set of rules that need to be followed in the ring especially in the tag matches.
You articulated this perfectly
Well he does handle the botches pretty good lol
They have a number of guys who could give them amazing guidance, it doesn't matter if no one listens
Yes ,but JR can't use his father 's problematic behavior and give it credit for being able to deal with Vince who is and will be always a abusive person and toxic manager
I enjoy Tazz and Chris bringing in their on ring experience to compare with matches
We should appreciate Michael Cole more for being able to survive with Vince in his ears for so many years
Although he has lost 60% of his hearing.
People like to hate on Cole, but I respect him since he kept the show going the night Jerry almost died there.
lol nah
Always appreciated Cole. The man says corny stuff but it isn't his fault. He's being told most of this stuff
nope. It's on him for putting up with that asshole. I would NEVER allow anyone to talk to me like that.
Cole getting screamed at by vince for daring to question one of his orders, and then cowering like a kid is hillarious!!!
Link please
@@Whasteen Look up "Michael Cole talks back to Vince". It's pretty funny.
He melts in real time its crazy he goes from swearing at vince to saying Yes Sir !!! 6 times in a row
To be fair, its either that or get fired on the spot, I dont blame Cole for wanting to keep his job more than wanting to try and reason with a maniac.
Was that the one where he asked "Do we need to repeat this every fkin time we do x?" And then you wait 2 seconds & then it's YES SIR YES SIR!
If so that didn't seem too bad.
Vince McMahon was heavily abused as a child. Being powerless in his childhood makes him want absolute control as a grown up. That’s what trauma does to you.
He was ab^sed?
By his mother or father?
Where’s the link
Well im glad he was cause otherwise there wouldn't have been a wwf
Who by
@@thechunkyone7118His own mother and his stepfather. He talked about it once in an old interview. I think it was for Playboy Magazine.
Would have been hilarious having Jesse Ventura dealing with Vince yelling at him over the headsets:
Vince: "Damn it Jesse! I told you to..."
Ventura: "Shut up McMahon!!!"
Love Jesse Ventura, One of the smartest wrestlers ever.
@@ihavetubes and tough as hell he would destroy vince for a shoot in mic skills intelligence and in a fight
Gorilla would say "Will you stop it!"
Ventura: "Shut up monsoon!!!" Ha.
@@ghw1985 Vince at 76 is in better shape than Jesse is now despite being 6 years younger than Vince. Hell, Vince in 2003, 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 etc.. was in better than Jesse ever was in those years. You're a mark if you think Jesse was considered legit, one of the toughest guys in Wresting. His military record clearly states he never saw combat. They're old men now and of the 2, only one is great shape and it ain't Jesse.
Sheesh, I didn’t realize how stressful it was being a commentator. Having Vince McMahon scream in your ear all the time 😬
There's a clip somewhere of Michael Cole doing commentary and Vince berates him during it. You can't hear Vince but you can hear Cole responding to him extremely startled.
“You better say it son of bitch. you better say it!!!”
Go watch Cole’s recent interview on Pat McAfee’s show; he has hearing aids now b/c of how much damage his ears got from Vince’s yelling.
First scream I would have lost my job. I would have NOT earned a penny
It's not being a commentator that's hard, it's just Vince McMahon that adds this (competition unnecessary) stress.
And here I thought working at a call center was torture. Its 1 thing to have costumors constantly yelling in your ear but your boss?
Did not expect to see you here 🤣🤣🤣 wassup g
And Vince McMahon specifically!
He got paid good money to do it but it's definetely not for everybody so you gotta give kudos to Michael Cole for lasting so long.
Worse than a call center
Jr is literally probably the only guy who when he talks and says stuff I know hes telling the truth and hes never said stuff that is mean or hurtful or even really negative unless telling a story. Jr is one of the best commentators of all time he was the voice of my childhood not tony not jerry not anyone but Jr. The wrestling industry truly needs more guys like JR in it. Hes an all around good and nice person and great at what he does, the fact wwe treated him the way they did for so long is something I will never understand.
I wouldn’t be able to stand that! I will snap if a grown man screams or snaps at me! Where I’m from that means your about to get your ass kicked! I tried working up north hated it constantly having to say “what the hell did you just say to me”! And I can take instructions but yelling is just gonna mess me up! If it ain’t live or death calm down it ain’t that important! I’m sure in a 100 years no one will ever care!
I know what you mean. People lose their minds and get reckless with their mouths over the tiniest amount of pressure.
you wouldn't snap, you will be paid to be Vince's bodyguard.
Imagine hearing "Listen hear god dammit....you sonofa...." and your sitting there trying to keep a smile lol
Imagine hearing that & not laffin your butt off.
I've worked in TV news for years so clearly that's where Vince learned how to produce because that's how it's done when you work in news as well. Behind every calm person in a suit on your TV is a crazy person screaming in their ear and cussing like a sailor.
I had a boss like that. Just blew up at every single perceived mistake. Some people dealt with it, I left because I didn't sign up for that kind of abuse. Later the company ended up firing the manager and asking me to come back. I declined.
Love the man, stopped in WV at my moms work place to get a pipe/tube for his oxygen machine and my mom gave him one on the house cause she saw who he was. Jr then gave my mom 6 tickets to the AEW show in Charleston, Wv. Coolest shit I’ve heard been apart of. Thanks JR
4:10 I cannot imagine trying to do that job JR or others did...u on national TV, u got vince screaming in ur ear while u trying to hear yourself, co-announcers, crowd, match, etc. Insane.
JR is a goddamn Saint for going through the meat grinder that is Vince McMahon and coming out the other side still a nice guy who is well respected and cares deeply for the talent.
Vince was always a hard ass. Loved him in the Breakfast Club.
Lmao, idk if this was meant as a joke or not, but I'm dead either way.
JR'S commentating style will always be the gold standard, but I do give credit to Michael Cole for his ability to repeat advertisements 10 freaking times each show!! That's my guess for how many times Cole said "Elimination Chamber will be two weeks from tomorrow" on Smackdown last night and not once did he sound annoyed at having to repeat it.
It’s bossssssssss timeeeeeeee ….
ruclips.net/video/cmJgCO2JjBI/видео.html
To survive because he was raised by a man like that, makes so much sense
I wish there could be clips of this that shows what it’s like. It’s somewhat like a hidden gem
@Marc Carran Very good example. Cole tries to push back, because everyone say’s Vince hates a pussy. However, Cole gets crushed and immediately backs down and says the line given to him
@Marc Carran There is an old clip from the early 90s with Vince and Doc Hendrix where Doc mispronounced "Aldo" as "Ohldo" and after like the third time Vince gets this look and turns to Doc and just with absolute insane rage goes "It's ALDO!!!"
A guy back in the day had a channel and the videos were titled “Off the Air”. He somehow got a satellite that picked up what happened during commercial breaks and after the shows in WWE. He had a YouRube channel. I think his videos got taken down but a lot of em you can still probably find. He passed away about 5 years ago I think. I heard he was a cool guy.
@@THEMUDBUSTERS4 That's probably trimoon, who took his own life, about 3 years ago, not 5. He created many of the iconic wrestling gifs used across the internet.
@@THEMUDBUSTERS4 Oh, and it consisted of Michael Cole denigrating people.
Fairly obvious that Vince is a marketing genius that makes money in spite of himself.
Only for wrestling and even that seems to have left him.
The best thing Vince can do is let Pat mcafee and Cory graves loose in the booth.
Pat Mcafee is annoying as hell.
@@danielburger1775 that subjective, some people find him annoying but plenty of people still love him
Vince McMahon had a tendency to be his own worst enemy sometimes.
The Attitude Era was the best time for commentary because Vince was in the ring all the time so he couldn't yell at the announcers
Thank god he was. If he wasn’t the product wouldn’t have been as successful.
This is so wild, this video is the first time that I saw paul bromwell. I had no idea this is what he looked like.
Whatever they pay Troy Aikman, JR should have gotten double, and just for announcing. The amount of work this man has done to build the WWE brand should have guaranteed him a job for life like Pat Patterson at least.
Vince McMahon is the reason the WWE brand is now "Brand Suck". For all he did good in the early days for wrestling he's doing as much now to kill it. He needs to go away forever.
Vince McMahon is the Al Davis of wrestling that little by little he is erasing his legacy in the name of the mighty dollar by the time he dies wwe would be sold or gone completely
Its been crappy for years and many have stated Vince is the reason.
He did go away to and sell the company to tko
I still have nightmares about my time as the RTO for my battalion commander on missions. The most stressful situation you can imagine.
Jr is the best wrestling announcer in history. I mean is there even a debate on that? Doesn't matter what era it is or who's in the ring he always brings passion and energy to even the dullest of situations. And I believe he would have been very loyal to the WWE to this day if they had just treated him with some basic respect. The decades he was loyal and showed up to work didn't even matter. He is part of why the WWE grew so much. He is in part why so many tuned in
i swear this paul guy is a bobblehead
As someone who grew up with a very intense and demanding father I can 100% relate to what Jim says here about how the toughness of his father prepared him to be able to work in an environment like this. I am fortunate that while my father was very short fused and demanded a lot at the same time unlike JR my dad was sure to make sure that I always knew he loved me. As a man at times he could certainly be hurtful if he went off and could often say things he’d regret I was blessed that he was always self aware, unafraid to make sure you knew he loved you, and at times willing to apologize and recognize times where he was wrong. Years later and now being an adult I have been able to have conversations with him where he truly knows where he was wrong and has made sure that we as his children know that he knows he made mistakes as all parents do.
But while those times as you’re living them are very difficult, especially being young and hormonal, and often are hard to understand they can truly become an asset for your later life with the right attitude. If you look back to them with malice and feel you were treated unfairly they can be a serious detriment to you. But if you take an attitude of using them as an asset they can become a great benefit in your working life and your resiliency to deal with difficult roles and people. As an attorney the path to get through the schooling, land a job, and survive in those jobs is immense and full of people who can be cruel and backstabbing as they aim to achieve anyway they can. Living a life of growing around someone who constantly challenged me and expected a lot was such an asset when I took that path because the things that can often break people down weren’t able to do that for me. I think that’s the same case for JR here. The time he spent with those types of people gave him a skin and mindset that prevented the things that would break down others in his roles from breaking him and worked to his advantage.
Ive been harsh towards JR recently, but god damn that man is a badass.
Exactly the video I was looking for. I remember the time Cole gently told Vince to basically F off out of his ear. You couldn’t hear what Vince was saying to him but Cole’s response said everything you needed to hear.
If you're a person on a headset with Mick Foley, Jerry Lawler, Jim Cornette, and Jim Ross, and you're telling THEM that they're not saying the right things, then obviously you're the one that's got a problem.
Wow this guy is a legend! Respect to JR 👊
The moment he kissed Vince's ass was the moment Vince knew he had a tool. Never let someone disrespect you.
Hey.. hey.. it’s Conrad Thompson
Reminding you to Save With Conrad
As the Vince era winds down, these stories will just get more prevalent as his power wanes. Vince did alot for the biz, but he also did a ton negative as well. I would argue the biz was stagnant for almost 2 decades starting in late 2000 because of Vince.
My dad was like that too JR. It be hard not to laugh when they say dumb chit. U earned it 4 shure.
Cool hearing JRs dad and my dad are the same with the social skills
Bell’s Palsy can be brought on and can be made worse with stress. We can visibly see the damage caused by Bell’s Palsy had on JR. But who knows how much of that damage could have been lessened if he didn’t have JR screaming in his ear all those years.
Being roasted live while commentating is fucken wild. Props to him man 😂
Vince McMahon is the Al Davis of wrestling that little by little he is erasing his legacy in the name of the mighty dollar by the time he dies wwe would be sold or gone completely
Yeah, your right. It is up for sale too
But Vince did do it & was really good at it. It's one of those things that Vince can claim he can back up the talk.
Why don't they just have a screen in front of them with Vince's words on so they can concentrate on speaking while also seeing what Vince wants them to say ?
The vids with Paul are much better than the pod with him filling in. His voice is just so classic radio it almost feels like the pod is clipped and cut. The vids feel more real.
I love how cm punk asked king where the volume control was and turned it all the way down 😂
Can JR"s tech guy PLEASE set him up with a better cam and light? I am sure he has someone that helps. Go get the man a good camera and light already lol
JR is the best commentator!
Vince biography is gonna be the most insane shit on the business, but is definitely gonna come out after he passes away, i cant imagine how many people are gonna contribuye to it, be it good or bad.
Also Vince is a fucking dictator to his employers holy shit lmao , im glad people like JR took no shit and never threated it as the "family" bullshit Vince always push on his workers, people like definitely knew his worth and didnt let Vince walk over him
0:08 Man at first I thought it was Scott Hudson. 😂
Makes you feel bad for Michael Cole, he's been having Vince scream in his ear for 25~ years.
He screamed at Pat McAfee his very first day.
VINCE CAN DO/SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS, especially since he did it for years!!!
Bromwell giving those Scott Hudson vibes with his look
Very down to earth man
Answer to the question: they didn’t handle it very well!
Paul’s face doesn’t match the voice? I’m use it Spotify. My bad
J.r. we love you
ok Goldust
I would do anything to have a workplace peer or superior like JR. Think of all of the wisdom he’s picked up over the years.
Why can't JR call it like it is and say Vince is toxic?
My Dad told me he loved me when he was drunk which was good enough for me.
JR is the best, best in the business
It sounds tough working in the WWE environment.
No sir. I told my bosses over the years to not talk to me like that. I'm a grown man. A free man. I don't talk to people like that, so no one should talk to me like that.
Q - Was this usually RIGHT before he tried to POOP on them?
I would’ve just taken the headset off and talked into the mic part so I didn’t have to hear him.
When Vince was doing commentary, who was speaking in his ear?
Wish we could hear 1 of dem Vince rants 😆
Makes me wonder: Who does the talking in the commentator's ears when Vince is in the ring?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA how the Cow ate the what?? JR I’m brushing my teeth and using mouthwash and U made me spit out my Listerine before I could fully wash my mouth out
"You can see where the cow ate the cabbage."
It amazes me how everyone allowed Vince to treat them like trash it’s no wonder he thought he could do the things he did smh
I think tazz was soo good on the head set
JR AND KING WERE THE BEST!!! Made WWE SOOOO MUCH BETTER!
Jr looks to be feeling better
jr you should run the wwe 😂 it would finally be great like the old days
But that makes sense 🤦
@@Scarizza as much as i love the company, the amount of talent and time they’ve wasted has been really upsetting
I'm not sure Jr could handle that level of stress now. Absolutely love him, but the way aew is scheduled he at least gets some time off.
@@Scarizza Not just Steiner, also Undertaker, Hogan, Batista, Flair, and many others.
Imagine Vince McMahon getting mad just for taking about weed on the headset!
3:20 awww hell yeah!! let 'em know!!
I didn't know Hank Hill was JR's dad.
Paul looks like Matthew Santoro.
Ever try to read something while you can hear someone talking? It's highly distracting. Now try it again when you have to actually pay attention to both.
Lio rush had a Vince earpiece and he worked out fine. Oh
The Paul dude is a dope. That is all.
I read or seen a video I think one time Steve Austin was doing some commentary during a match and Vince tried that shit and Steve told him to shut the fuck up lol
Being criticised by JR would be the rasiest thing in the world. Although being told he'd disappointed would hurt a million timrs more 😅
Vince McMahon, for all of his undeniable success, is in many ways, still just a silly little Boy!
From all the stories I have heard about Vince it amazes me that company ever reached the heights it has. Not only has he sabotaged his own company MANY times he seems to be a pain in the ass to be around. I spent 8 years in the Marines. I understand tough love but there is a fine line between tough love and out right abuse. A real leader understands the limits of who he is working with and tries to improve them. Not shit all over them just because they can. I've also worked in broadcasting. How you managed to sound as great as you did with all the noise and nonsense going on in your ears is beyond me. Best play-by-play man in wrestling history imo. I don't know Vince, but he seems to get off on power and that's never a good thing.
But your opinion is based on just that: stories.
I can barely understand what jr is saying these days
I think Jr just got PTSD doing this interview. Ha.
Michael Cole would be 1000x better if he wasn’t working for WWE.
some things need to be changed.. Like what a government mule.
Loved the topic, not a great interview for this one IMO…
Jim Ross with white face paint?
Why doesn’t Vince do the commentating himself if he micromanages so much? He was excellent on commentary back in the day, I’d actually really like to see him doing it again.
Have you seen his promos from Survior series? Or any of the promos he's done with Austin Theory lately? People age, Vince isn't the same man he was in the 90s or 2000's.
"What a maneuver" and his over the top laugh annoyed the hell out of me. But everybody has their preference.
God, can you imagine? 2022, and Vince McMahon is back behind the mic, twice as old and nine times as incomprehensible. "BLUEHGEUHGRRG... GREAUGHUAHAAAA... REEUEUUUEROMAN REIGNS... BLARUARHEUHAHUE EGG." Fuck me, I'll pass. I would honestly rather listen to Shitstain at the table eating a never-ending bowl of chocolate pudding and saying the word "Bro" over and over. Fuck.
@@Phicheee What's wrong with chocolate pudding?