British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat

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  • Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
  • Stretched out across a sandy corner of northern Poland, 2,500 British troops are taking part in one of several huge Nato manoeuvres.
    Exercise Immediate Response is designed to test their ability to quickly reinforce the alliance’s eastern flank and deter Russia.
    With Ukraine just 450 miles to the east, 1 Royal Welsh has built a trench system to practise concealment, hiding from the threat of kamikaze drones.
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Комментарии • 874

  • @misiyuk_28
    @misiyuk_28 14 дней назад +23

    They better build a turtle tank

    • @Kevin-hx2ky
      @Kevin-hx2ky 14 дней назад +2

      Prolly too damaging for their marketing team. Can't really see the curves of the tank if it's under a shed.
      Well, until they make a proprietary version that solves all the problems the shed introduces

    • @davidyoung5830
      @davidyoung5830 14 дней назад

      Except of ccourse they are still vulnerable to mines and once your Tank/AFV is immobile its a dead duck!

    • @P3RF3CTD3ATH
      @P3RF3CTD3ATH 13 дней назад +4

      @@davidyoung5830 turtle tanks aren't vulnerable to mines. They're built to clear mines.

    • @jooseppib1082
      @jooseppib1082 12 дней назад

      ​@@P3RF3CTD3ATHthey are vulnerable to practically every thing because they have zero situational awareness

  • @danielhurst8863
    @danielhurst8863 15 дней назад +171

    The issue is, nobody can move large armored formations anymore. The moment there is such a target, the entire area is blanketed with ordinance delivered mines, then the slowed or immobilized assets are pummeled with pinpoint artillery, and then swarmed with drones.
    It used to take a very unlucky artillery strike to take down even an immobilized AFV. Today, the crew is lucky if it has time to bail out and get away before the AFV is destroyed, and escape becomes impossible because of the saturation of shells around them.

    • @leckerbambi1019
      @leckerbambi1019 14 дней назад +10

      yup.. air fights and small battle groops and arty is the way

    • @simonseis744
      @simonseis744 14 дней назад +22

      Source: RUclips videos and FPS lobbies.

    • @paulloudbbk
      @paulloudbbk 14 дней назад +13

      Depends on the electronic warfare capability.

    • @willberry6434
      @willberry6434 14 дней назад +28

      depends on air superiority. Which NATO will have

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 14 дней назад +13

      Thats why air superiority is paramount.

  • @steveh5005
    @steveh5005 14 дней назад +16

    60 year old 432s. And im not convinced Ajax will be any better protected from drones.

  • @juansantana8448
    @juansantana8448 12 дней назад +7

    hahahaha, yeah, to hide they are staying in their little island.

  • @two02ful
    @two02ful 11 дней назад +2

    I wonder how long could this Brit would last a week or a month?

  • @robertwhyte5078
    @robertwhyte5078 11 дней назад +5

    How can they call it an army with only 70 000 soldiers and about 10 working tanks.

    • @jay-124
      @jay-124 10 дней назад

      영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다...한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요....현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다...평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...

    • @iansun42
      @iansun42 8 дней назад

      @@jay-124 lol cope

  • @yungadryas1734
    @yungadryas1734 15 дней назад +93

    This is all well and good, but ideally now needs to be scaled up tp 10's of thousands of men asap!! The British Army is at disgracefully low numbers.

    • @ddontyy
      @ddontyy 14 дней назад

      People have wisen up.
      Old generation call this new one ''soft''.
      There's nothing soft about being intellectually aware that your life is off little value to men in suits at the top who create these wars because of ego if you truly think about it, It's 2024, it's not the Roman Empire era anymore where land was an actual strategic benefit... The enemy today is your own people in most cases today.
      Good luck convincing me risking dying for feminists, not gonna happen bud, even with forced conscription. Grafting for 18 hours a day the past 3 years to stay afloat, yet I have to fight and die for that?
      HAHAHAHA

    • @johnslugger
      @johnslugger 14 дней назад +7

      *The British economy worse than is was in the 1930's*

    • @vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729
      @vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729 14 дней назад

      @@johnsluggeralways money for illegals though. Maybe they should be enlisted in our army. They might even then change their mind about coming here

    • @ddontyy
      @ddontyy 14 дней назад +16

      Good luck with that.
      Nobody wants to die for no reason outside of Ego

    • @YeetyDelety
      @YeetyDelety 14 дней назад +7

      @@ddontyy I'd give my life to protect innocent people.

  • @bobsaget8791
    @bobsaget8791 14 дней назад +87

    a fraction of NATO's firepower, and literally all of britains working challenger 2s

    • @teddypicker8799
      @teddypicker8799 13 дней назад +14

      Nah UK ordered 447 Challenger 2s and they don't export apart from 14 to Ukraine. Western tanks are designed to save the crews lives so they need spares

    • @teddypicker8799
      @teddypicker8799 13 дней назад +4

      Apparently they are stored in NATO countries like Luxembourg and Holland for quick deployment

    • @kevinbaboolal4225
      @kevinbaboolal4225 13 дней назад

      @@teddypicker8799 is that why the chally 2s in ukraine pop their turrets?

    • @basedglennuk
      @basedglennuk 13 дней назад +6

      NATO 🌈

    • @Tim9999999991
      @Tim9999999991 13 дней назад +6

      @@teddypicker8799 450 is the total ever built, only around 200 in active service, even smaller number than that actually able to deploy instantly.

  • @alanmcmillan6969
    @alanmcmillan6969 15 дней назад +111

    Drones are a new threat to be taken very seriously. What are the answers?

    • @1337billybob
      @1337billybob 15 дней назад +28

      Yeah I was expecting cope cages or something visually obvious. There isn’t anything that looks like newer electronic counter measures either on the armor.

    • @LeeTillbury
      @LeeTillbury 15 дней назад +25

      Teeny- tiny SAMs?

    • @alanmcmillan6969
      @alanmcmillan6969 15 дней назад +5

      Or a drone bodyguard?

    • @j.burgess4459
      @j.burgess4459 15 дней назад +9

      @@alanmcmillan6969 Interceptor drones?

    • @eternalsleeping
      @eternalsleeping 15 дней назад +32

      EW and Trophy APS systems.

  • @kenepee2153
    @kenepee2153 10 дней назад +1

    Throughout history, N.A.T.O has been standing for "No Action Talk Only". Which is actually good.

  • @user-gk3jk2wr4u
    @user-gk3jk2wr4u 14 дней назад +48

    Nice how vehicles are parked close to each other

    • @slwide7507
      @slwide7507 13 дней назад +1

      British like to do things in style!

    • @kwcbomb6969
      @kwcbomb6969 12 дней назад

      NATO literally just saying "DO IT, WE WANT YOU TO."

    • @SAMOYLOVP87
      @SAMOYLOVP87 12 дней назад +1

      @@slwide7507 right? 1 drone = tripple kill haha

    • @CharlieBarkinTheDog
      @CharlieBarkinTheDog 12 дней назад +1

      Well Russia isn't sending anything into Poland right now so not much threat.

    • @Mitchell-mo9up
      @Mitchell-mo9up 12 дней назад +3

      Well noticed did you learn that on your last tour. Perhaps you should go into some advisory role with all your obvious combat knowledge.

  • @olivere5497
    @olivere5497 13 дней назад +30

    The British Army should just buy up all the toy quadcopters on sale on the Gadget Store and start practicing the same fpv tactics Russia is using.
    Very quickly you will run out of tanks.

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад +2

      And aircraft. Also airfields :-) Hypersonic missiles 70 miles in 40 sec ! Try hide from that fools.

    • @alexscharf3244
      @alexscharf3244 11 дней назад +6

      I have a friedn in the brish army, and I can promise you they have many drone teams that work with many types of advanced drones.
      Secondly, ukraine is using a tiny amount of tanks compared to what NATO has, and Russia hasn't managed to take them out. So I'm not sure why you think Russia would somehow do better against a far more adanved army than what they are failing against right now

    • @olivere5497
      @olivere5497 10 дней назад +1

      @@alexscharf3244 unless you can rig up a massive robotic kevlar umbrella for all of your armour (not a bad idea in my opinion) cheap drones are gonna walk all over anything expensive on the frontline.

    • @CH-tp4wz
      @CH-tp4wz 9 дней назад

      Fools lol Russia can't even take Ukraine....
      Who's the fool (Russia) don't start what you can't finish.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      @@olivere5497 iron fist active protection systems on the latest Bradley variants in theory can be used against drones as well.

  • @mrcenior
    @mrcenior 13 дней назад +50

    Everyone's got a plan until they get the first punch.

    • @RalphBrooker-gn9iv
      @RalphBrooker-gn9iv 11 дней назад +1

      Which is why ‘Actions On’ is the most important part of operational orders at what ever level.

    • @AntoineWilliams7118
      @AntoineWilliams7118 11 дней назад

      Incorrect

    • @AntoineWilliams7118
      @AntoineWilliams7118 11 дней назад +1

      But good try.
      The real quote is:
      “Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face by a migrant”

    • @Th3Mavr1ck
      @Th3Mavr1ck 11 дней назад

      @@AntoineWilliams7118 they are coming, hide your wamen

    • @user-qm8sc1jr9u
      @user-qm8sc1jr9u 9 дней назад

      like russia hahah losers cant even beat Ukraine

  • @qasimmir7117
    @qasimmir7117 13 дней назад +18

    British Armed Forces caught with their pants down after a decade of cuts.👏🏼

    • @tommurphy7611
      @tommurphy7611 12 дней назад

      Londonistan is FUKD anyway.

    • @Lordnumptynous
      @Lordnumptynous 10 дней назад +1

      Yawn..we've woken up now so play another tune.

    • @BFP8447
      @BFP8447 10 дней назад

      I dont see any drone during the exercise😃

    • @davedixon2068
      @davedixon2068 8 дней назад +1

      try 7 decades of cuts and you are closer

  • @lib556
    @lib556 15 дней назад +43

    What is old is new again. Nearly half of my 35 years in the army was spent on Cold War preparation including service in Germany during the 80s. It's almost laughable watching this new generation trying to come to grips with near peer, armour heavy combat. Scrambling to relearn lessons that were second nature to us. Knowledge that faded in the mad rush to 'beat swords into ploughshares' and reap the 'peace dividend' of the early 90s.

    • @Hereford1642
      @Hereford1642 14 дней назад

      Nothing to do with that. Fact is that conventional training has nothing to do with modern war. And that is all.

    • @lib556
      @lib556 14 дней назад +8

      @@Hereford1642 I've been retired for 6 years so I may be out of touch a bit. However, the way we trained in the 80s looks a lot like what is now going on. Air threat, camouflage, emcon security, clearing trench systems, preparing fighting positions, manoeuvering scores of armoured vehicles, tank/infantry cooperation built on mech combat teams and battle groups ...almost none of which we did in Afghanistan.
      Just before I retired I was a senior umpire on an exercise where, during the inevitable spirited discussions over who won what, you snotty platoon commanders would attempt to lecture me about near peer warfare vice what I might have done over the last dozen years. I had to take a minute to explain what the hell we were doing in Germany in the 80s. During one discussion a young regular Sgt (I was a reservist by this point) said, "you can't make me a casualty due to arty... I'm in a LAV." I told him that DPICM was part of the ammo start state. Based on the blank expression on his face, I had to go on and explain Excalibur etc to him. Never heard of it.
      Anyway, I have faith in our combat arms... despite all current cultural challenges. I wish them the best. That said, lots of lessons to be learned in what we did in the 80s.

    • @seanp9277
      @seanp9277 14 дней назад

      @@lib556 Ukrainians haven't been all that impressed with NATO training. Many have said that if they had followed that training they would be dead.

    • @user-zt5sf3lc5t
      @user-zt5sf3lc5t 14 дней назад +4

      Absolutely spot on as I too are from that era spending many years in Artillery Regiments stationed in BAOR. A lot of what you said brought back memories of huge exercises in Germany and numerous Active Edge call outs on the IGB to defensive positions under radio silence. Our troops are small in number and whilst professional as always are not well versed in this sort of Warfare.

    • @user-kd3cz4zo9k
      @user-kd3cz4zo9k 13 дней назад +2

      @@lib556no it’s very different, AA is almost removed from the equation because hitting a drone is so difficult, drones also basically make camo useless if they use Thermals….
      You can’t even compare the two anymore

  • @peters2620
    @peters2620 5 дней назад +1

    Their normal procedure is to leap 200 feet into the air and scatter themselves over a large area

  • @mikejohn2999
    @mikejohn2999 14 дней назад +23

    😂😂😂until you face the actual drone you will see how far you learned

    • @jovan1986srb
      @jovan1986srb 14 дней назад +7

      they learned nothing. they haven't fought a serious battle since the WW2 like ukrainian army and russian army did.

    • @matiasd.c9949
      @matiasd.c9949 14 дней назад +2

      This are the same guys that trained the ukrainian battalion that got wiped out in months ROFL..

  • @loljk1991
    @loljk1991 15 дней назад +24

    We were making fun of Russian tank being vulnerable to Kamikaze drones early in the war. The reality is after seeing how Leopard, Abrams, Challenger also be vulnerable to kamikaze drones and having had to include Cope Cages.

    • @chitraprasannaanbalagan5626
      @chitraprasannaanbalagan5626 14 дней назад +2

      Even Israeli mercava's are using cop cage armor!

    • @alexanderfenn4457
      @alexanderfenn4457 14 дней назад +3

      Strange we all thought Western equipment wouldn't be just as susceptible - not that drones will make MBT's obsolete in combined-arms warfare, but the race should be on to find proper protection that isn't just welding some steel beams to the turret. Remains to be see what everyone comes up with.

    • @pluemas
      @pluemas 14 дней назад +1

      Cope cages block APS, hence why they aren't used on vehicles that have them.

    • @jooseppib1082
      @jooseppib1082 11 дней назад

      Leo Abrams and challenger does not have cope cages because they don't do anything

  • @David-zo7bg
    @David-zo7bg 15 дней назад +7

    The answer: air based electronic warfare for live controlled drones and cheap interceptors like APKWS for long range GPS guided drones like "Shahed" for example

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      Although you did say APKWS for Shahed which is definitely a more reasonable cost comparison.

    • @David-zo7bg
      @David-zo7bg 8 дней назад

      @@nic.h By the way, I think that modernized APKWS with IIR and target recognition will be great against cruise missiles also if based on air platform

  • @davidjones4242
    @davidjones4242 14 дней назад +5

    Back to the 80’s for all these that remember Spearpoint et al!

    • @wayneholmes637
      @wayneholmes637 14 дней назад +1

      And Iron Hammer, Reforger etc.

    • @TanksInSpace_
      @TanksInSpace_ 10 дней назад +1

      Yeah, lots of exercises back in the day, plowing through the fields, sleeping in a hay barn, getting hit by a A10 (according to the referee.🥺 ) ...But now we moved 800 kilometers closer to Moscow.

  • @Ianmundo
    @Ianmundo 9 дней назад +1

    Army should buy the 🇩🇪 Skynex air defence system as an urgent operational requirement, it’s ready to go and essential if our expensive armour is to survive

  • @phantomdragon6062
    @phantomdragon6062 15 дней назад +7

    yall are underestimating gamers eye sight

  • @SlaaneshiChaplain
    @SlaaneshiChaplain 14 дней назад +6

    Unless you can build a tracked C-RAM/SPAAG weapon system on an armoured vehicle chassis and attach them to tank troops and Armoured infantry platoons to maintain the airspace is clear and stop drones kamikaze attacks or co-ordinating artillery fire you're going to have a rough time, but don't worry I'll fully expect it to be an urgent operational requirement about 2 years into conflict after trying the "old-new" way for the Infantry Corps and Royal Tank Squadron if instant sunshine isn't used.

    • @alexscharf3244
      @alexscharf3244 11 дней назад

      But Russia is failing against Ukraine, how could they compete with the UK?

    • @BFP8447
      @BFP8447 10 дней назад

      @@alexscharf3244 Yes. The Russians are retreating westward.

  • @westyk52sparky
    @westyk52sparky 14 дней назад +7

    i really hope the uk is learning from the ukraine war and over coming the problems. dont just say you are.

    • @readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444
      @readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 14 дней назад

      They're learning how to launder money just the the US is doing. Remember when a certain half of the US congress said $5 billion for a wall was wasteful? Now they say $200 billion to fund a border in another country is NOT wasteful.

    • @leehotspur9679
      @leehotspur9679 13 дней назад

      NATO organisers will be scrutinising all that is going on in UA The SAS will be there analysing tactics ,EW and Logistics among other things

    • @Teadrinker-kg4ve
      @Teadrinker-kg4ve 13 дней назад

      Learning for what exactly

    • @tommurphy7611
      @tommurphy7611 12 дней назад +1

      Londonistan and their LGBTQ army learning...
      notin

    • @DrewWithington
      @DrewWithington 5 дней назад +1

      Don't really think so. Peacetime officers get promoted by being good at fitting in and doing what they are told, not by by non-conformist and innovative.

  • @andretan10
    @andretan10 11 дней назад +7

    they don't even have protection from drones on the third year of war. lol

  • @jay-124
    @jay-124 10 дней назад +1

    물결강판으로 참호를 만들고 지붕까지 만든 것은 아주 좋은 드론방어책이다...
    미군의 배럭 같은 것임...굿....

  • @wouterkellerman4458
    @wouterkellerman4458 13 дней назад +2

    The REAL question should be: wtf is britain doing in ukraine????

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад +1

      Money and corruption at an epic scale within Western politics.

  • @perfectblue6013
    @perfectblue6013 12 дней назад +7

    >not a single fpv drone operator in the brigade
    >no cages on tanks like in russian or israel army
    >no jammer on tank or other transport
    I can imagine what the russian army would do with these clowns

    • @gefagnis
      @gefagnis 11 дней назад

      yeah they'll show em just like they showed ukraine...lol

  • @quazars236
    @quazars236 11 дней назад +1

    wow! British troops at last have learned a very valuable lesson gained in the war of Ukraine...! - hide.

    • @BFP8447
      @BFP8447 10 дней назад

      That is the 1st step. 2nd step is to run.

  • @allanmcleod1384
    @allanmcleod1384 14 дней назад +3

    Brings back memories of doing this stuff back in the 80s. Its a style of fighting that should not have been allowed to lapse. Unfortunately the military and strategy experts really aren't that expert. History is never wrong

  • @seanbumstead1250
    @seanbumstead1250 11 дней назад +2

    Drones are the new weapon and they can take out the cheapest tank T-72 and expensive Challenger 2 just as easy

  • @felixf.3392
    @felixf.3392 12 дней назад +1

    Does it still make sense for the US to maintain NATO if it takes its national interests into account?
    Countries in Western Europe like Germany pursue a mercantilist economic model.
    To do this, they are dependent on cheap energy from Russia and large export markets like China.
    The USA is currently "protecting" Germany with thousands of soldiers, a nuclear shield and hundreds of military bases.
    The resulting political influence that the USA has on Germany has not been able to prevent economic relations with China from becoming even more intense in recent weeks.
    In my opinion, Chancellor Scholz's trip to China in April was a clear sign that Germany is not prepared to cut its economic ties with China.
    And given this reality, the USA will sooner or later give up its military involvement in Europe.

  • @taylorrichardson850
    @taylorrichardson850 13 дней назад +4

    Todays Uk army is a joke, . Without its usual UsA master, it would stand 1 month on a real front line war

  • @buryitdeep
    @buryitdeep День назад

    Russia has only gotten more belligerent since NATO keeps expanding East.

  • @ffdv7458
    @ffdv7458 14 дней назад +17

    Has nato not watched a single ukraine video?? the tactics are 50 years behind.

    • @teddypicker8799
      @teddypicker8799 13 дней назад +1

      It's the other way around, mate. NATO army would have air superiority negating the importance of drones

    • @averagebohemian5791
      @averagebohemian5791 13 дней назад +3

      @@teddypicker8799 How? How does air superiority have impact on thousands of drones with RPG heads strapped onto them? The quadcopters are the revolution because every battalion can afford it and they are so cheap

    • @jay-124
      @jay-124 10 дней назад

      드론이 전쟁을 결정한다

    • @teddypicker8799
      @teddypicker8799 10 дней назад

      @averagebohemian5791 if you have to ask then there's no point answering

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      @@averagebohemian5791 good luck getting more of those RPG rounds to the front when you run out because your logistics supply is getting constantly hammered.

  • @24hourjukebox55
    @24hourjukebox55 13 дней назад +3

    That tactic will definately win wars....hiding.....Rule Brittania. lol

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      Stealth is definitely an advantage in combat. Hard to hit things when you don't know where they are

  • @PhilbyFavourites
    @PhilbyFavourites 14 дней назад +2

    God bless the “Ruperts” - meant in the most cheeky 1982 Falklands humour.

  • @fuwah1
    @fuwah1 15 дней назад +35

    They work together as WWII. God save our soldiers🙏🏻

    • @Gigantus636
      @Gigantus636 15 дней назад +4

      Yes Germans and British work together against the bear, just like in ww2.

    • @marcopaganotto9125
      @marcopaganotto9125 15 дней назад

      They're being set up to fight against a ww2 ally. Not good, not clever and who does it benefit, because it's definitely not the troops that's for sure.

    • @hanssteiner4315
      @hanssteiner4315 15 дней назад

      ​@@Gigantus636haha Russia never did anything like installing regimes and police states in any Eastern Europe. Pfff laughable bot you are.

    • @karolyfulop75
      @karolyfulop75 15 дней назад +3

      You and US are escalating in all conflicts, maybe karma come somedays

    • @readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444
      @readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 15 дней назад +2

      Look up Tucker's interviews about how Christians are being treated in Ukraine.

  • @GeorgeSorrow
    @GeorgeSorrow 13 дней назад +2

    Minsk accord

  • @poisonhand8078
    @poisonhand8078 14 дней назад +1

    Personally I guess not easy to avoid the drone threat, given that the drones are being improved constantly from time to time as well as they are much cheaper and lighter as compared to conventional military vehicles...

  • @jay-124
    @jay-124 10 дней назад

    영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다...
    한반도에서 남북은 2백만에 달하는 대군이 휴전선에서 대치하고 있습니다...
    한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요....
    현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다...
    평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...

  • @thomas19994
    @thomas19994 11 дней назад

    For any enemy…

  • @tonkerdog1
    @tonkerdog1 15 дней назад +27

    If only we’d updated those Warriors.

    • @valerydx5682
      @valerydx5682 15 дней назад

      I saw today that 70 or 90 will be sent to Ukraine

    • @jonnoMoto
      @jonnoMoto 15 дней назад +6

      we tried to with the WCSP. i was working on it for almost 8yrs. got so sick to death of the mismanagement of it by the MOD (along with another project i could see going nowhere) and the revolving door of desk officers trying to put their mark on it that i quit working in defence after a 12yr career in it. less than a year after i quit, they canned the project.
      collosal waste of time and money. glad to see the back of it.

    • @fludblud
      @fludblud 14 дней назад

      They just need to keep the Warriors in reserve instead of scrapping them, a real war might actually result in an upgrade programme that wont bankrupt us. Ukraine has demonstrated the value of long term storage of older equipment for mass mobilisation and replenishment, the British Army's habit of instantly destroying any piece of equipment the moment it goes out of service leaves us chronically unable to absorb any significant casualties leaving us with nothing to fall back on.
      Hell we only ever made 350k SA80s, thats less than the number of conscripts Russia mobilized in October 2022 alone and Britain no longer has a small arms factory that can produce any more. We have no SLRs left either because the MoD destroyed all the stocks so what are our reservists going to do if it all kicks off? throw rocks?

    • @matiasd.c9949
      @matiasd.c9949 14 дней назад

      This are the same guys that trained the ukrainian battalion that got wiped out in months ROFL 😂😁😂

    • @TrKz_m
      @TrKz_m 14 дней назад +2

      @@matiasd.c9949 u ok mate u seem kind of upset over something, did the royal marine instructors personally kick u out the army or something lmao ? you've replied to multiple random people with the exact thing and they aren't even copy and pasted messages as they use different emojis and punctuation each time, your clearly bothered by something if your willing to waste your time repeatedly typing the same thing over and over again.
      However no offence I think your time would be better spent somewhere else like Facebook, I feel as though in a RUclips comment section people are just going to laugh at you here.

  • @antasosam8486
    @antasosam8486 13 дней назад +4

    They say drones, I see concentration. How is it?

    • @davedixon2068
      @davedixon2068 10 дней назад

      the formation shown isnt a wartime formation its peacetime on an exercise quite possibly at the end of the exercise

  • @SlopedOtter
    @SlopedOtter 14 дней назад +20

    British infantry are the best but Warrior IFV isn’t ready to face auto cannons. Coming from a former Warrior crewman, I’d rather be on foot.

    • @whylie74
      @whylie74 14 дней назад +1

      and AJAX just isn't ready.

    • @azovac
      @azovac 14 дней назад +2

      Ill grant you that warriors are one of the more outdated IFV's when it comes to the major NATO countries. But arent they still on par with something like a BMP2M?

    • @mortalz9940
      @mortalz9940 14 дней назад

      Did you lot every change all your warriors to the CTAS varient?

    • @Hereford1642
      @Hereford1642 14 дней назад +2

      Serious question. What do you think would actually protect you on the Ukraine Russia battlefield.

    • @SnakePliskin762
      @SnakePliskin762 14 дней назад +3

      ​@@Hereford1642 airpower and lots of it.

  • @fahristorm9771
    @fahristorm9771 10 дней назад

    what's this, instructors who are not having actual real combat experience ? at this point, UA troops are way more experienced than any NATO troops.

  • @cheesemaster113
    @cheesemaster113 4 дня назад

    interesting how they aren't including anti drone tech on these tanks

  • @nonyanks2510
    @nonyanks2510 15 дней назад +2

    One problem with where they are practicing, very few of the drone attacks accured in forested areas.

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад +2

      Yep as soon as they come out of the woods there done

  • @PayasoIngles
    @PayasoIngles 15 дней назад +25

    We have no counter to drones on the level they're being used in Ukraine

    • @RandomUserOnTheInterWebs
      @RandomUserOnTheInterWebs 15 дней назад +7

      Not true at all.

    • @pluemas
      @pluemas 15 дней назад +12

      There is a fairly solid counter drone strategy that has been developed, in part thanks to the effort and experience of our Ukrainian allies, that is well established now. Drones have been a thing for a long while.

    • @PayasoIngles
      @PayasoIngles 15 дней назад +7

      What strategy? there is none, I am not being negative but we have no systems like Sky Ranger. Warrior, Challenger, Boxer and Ajax have no APS system that can counter drones atm we would lose people and vehicles with hardly any back up vehicles in reserve. Need to switch spending to 5 or 6% and sort it out.

    • @Tripl3blue
      @Tripl3blue 15 дней назад +1

      @@pluemas Oh yeah - what strategy? I see the Russians have started building massive metal sheds around the outside of their tanks lol

    • @pluemas
      @pluemas 15 дней назад +1

      @@Tripl3blue that's because the Russians don't know what they're doing and haven't been a modern fighting force since the 90s. APS and other systems are incredibly effective at dealing with these threats. Theres a multilayered strategy entirely around it.

  • @AshwuzhereAgain
    @AshwuzhereAgain 14 дней назад

    The problem is the tank being so thin on the top of tanks. enough explosive mass and there’s a big hole in the top. I think if they add cope cages and ERA on the top face (looking down from top down view) of the tank you’d have a better chance

  • @lingth
    @lingth 13 дней назад

    In the past, tanks move with armoured infantry to counter troops with bazookas..
    I feel now tanks need to move with Short range Anti Air cover, for every 4 tanks there has to be a mobile anti air to constantly detect drones and counter it..

  • @616CC
    @616CC 15 дней назад

    I hope NATO is training with an overmatch ability, as he talks he doesn’t leave me with that impression

  • @Teadrinker-kg4ve
    @Teadrinker-kg4ve 13 дней назад +1

    Why are you preparing for war against drones?? Meaning you're preparing against Russia

    • @davedixon2068
      @davedixon2068 10 дней назад +2

      dont be dense everyman and his dog will be using drones in large numbers from now on

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад +1

      What you think everyone should ignore Russia's behaviour and threats over the last few years

  • @mickeyhynes
    @mickeyhynes 14 дней назад +1

    The Bulldog will outlive us all.

  • @johnadam2885
    @johnadam2885 15 дней назад +6

    They are training to hide themselves - like the Challenger tanks !!!

    • @Sunscreen1973
      @Sunscreen1973 15 дней назад +1

      You never see the one that kills you..

    • @user-kh3nz9lb2k
      @user-kh3nz9lb2k 14 дней назад

      @@Sunscreen1973 cuz it sunk in the mud?

    • @Sunscreen1973
      @Sunscreen1973 14 дней назад

      @user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)

    • @Sunscreen1973
      @Sunscreen1973 14 дней назад

      @user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)

    • @Sunscreen1973
      @Sunscreen1973 14 дней назад

      @@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)

  • @retrogazele
    @retrogazele 15 дней назад

    I saw a video of a drone going in search to target the Turtle tank . It qas so weird to see a house move ..

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 14 дней назад +5

    British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat
    In other words?
    'We have not got a clue how to reasonably stop these things yet.'

    • @Observer-xc6fp
      @Observer-xc6fp 14 дней назад

      Does anyone?
      Never seen such a ridiculous comment on a video before.

    • @Observer-xc6fp
      @Observer-xc6fp 12 дней назад

      @@McRocket
      Ahhh so someone with an opinion is a “troll” now are they.
      You are pathetic.

  • @user-ho7me9dd5y
    @user-ho7me9dd5y 13 дней назад +5

    Mighty Challenger still hidden from frontline?😂😂

    • @souroshi
      @souroshi 13 дней назад

      ?

    • @narakumar3175
      @narakumar3175 13 дней назад +2

      Mighty Game Changer 🤣🤣

    • @MultiVeeta
      @MultiVeeta 10 дней назад +2

      Russians run away from Challenger deployment.

    • @user-ho7me9dd5y
      @user-ho7me9dd5y 9 дней назад

      @@MultiVeeta 🤡😁

    • @MultiVeeta
      @MultiVeeta 9 дней назад

      @@user-ho7me9dd5y facts hurt.
      With so few Challengers it is easy to avoid confrontation.

  • @David_Crayford
    @David_Crayford 14 дней назад

    Is this an exercise or is this a deployment? I wouldn't want to bring them back from there too early.

  • @iandavies6575
    @iandavies6575 11 дней назад +1

    Try moving quickly in the Ukranian territory lol

  • @snipermart
    @snipermart 14 дней назад

    Drones are King these days

  • @stevencharnock9271
    @stevencharnock9271 14 дней назад +2

    Have they learned nothing ? The equipment is to close together making it an easy target

    • @davedixon2068
      @davedixon2068 10 дней назад

      they arent in a war formation they are meeting up at the end of an exercise

    • @stevencharnock9271
      @stevencharnock9271 10 дней назад

      @@davedixon2068 The exercise is in a forward position and as part of it they should be practicing dispersal.

    • @davedixon2068
      @davedixon2068 8 дней назад

      @@stevencharnock9271 note the last words on my post "end of an exercise" they are meeting up for a debrief post exercise they have finished the "war" and are positioned for convenience

  • @iambiggus
    @iambiggus 15 дней назад +25

    Putin really REALLY does not want to escalate things with NATO.

    • @danielcamacho1913
      @danielcamacho1913 15 дней назад +18

      All the more reason his troll factories are so vocal right now, trying to bamboozle the rest of the Europe into thinking Russia has a cause and a competent army.

    • @ConradAinger
      @ConradAinger 15 дней назад +7

      ​@danielcamacho1913
      Just remind me, what was the last large-scale successful action carried out by the American or British armies?

    • @friedchicken4326
      @friedchicken4326 15 дней назад +4

      @@danielcamacho1913 you do realise that RU forces have occupied a region half the size of Poland?

    • @iambiggus
      @iambiggus 15 дней назад +13

      @@ConradAinger Name the last large scale operation where they were beaten on the battlefield?
      Quitting under socio-political pressure is NOT the same thing as losing, or being defeated. Details and context my guy, details and context.

    • @skywillfindyou
      @skywillfindyou 15 дней назад

      Hahahaha

  • @JustinRM20
    @JustinRM20 11 дней назад

    Britian really has to acquire new material for their army. Those Warriors are ancient by modern standards, the Bulldogs even more so. I have immense respect and admiration for the British military, easily some of the best lads I've ever met, but it's pathetic to have them operate with such outdated equipment.

  • @flamezealous
    @flamezealous 15 дней назад +1

    Loitering munitions are a major threat to armor these dats... You take a good year to train an MBT crew only for that highly trained crew to die within days on hit fronts like Kharkiv; is armor on the way out???

  • @nathanarcher6764
    @nathanarcher6764 14 дней назад

    Send out certain frequencies to jam radio control: switch comms to either
    1.) off like submarines do, or like back when they sent letters too each other. (you don't need a verbal motivation from HQ to shoot someone in the face)
    2.) for emergency comms, go Fiber optic and have the Transceiver of the unit somehow deaf to jamming frequencies, and the HQ transceiver should be out of the EMP zone unless it's large.
    or you could boost comms frequency to really high, you'd think a drone would have limited battery, like 2200-7000 MAH, to keep it light and disposable, so it's transmission and receiving would be lower power so if they trace the comm field it's like 30 miles away instead of 30'.
    I'll expect my bucket list items fulfilled before 2050, thank you.

  • @kaiotie1
    @kaiotie1 14 дней назад +2

    Still think they should have accepted the Iron Fist APS from the Black Night program for Challenger and added it with the development of Challenger 3 - a hard kill active protection system against HEAT and slower moving munitions would have been better and long term far more useful. The system in a LONG TERM basis would have saved loads of money for the tax payer and the government, by making the vehicles more survivable. it makes you ask the question, what is worse? spending the money on the iron fist system, and then the cost of one use of it, or spending another £4m-£9m on a new tank, not including trained crew to replace the one that isn't able to protect against HEAT warheads or low speed projectiles? because in the long run, the APS system would surely be better for both vehicle and crew. its just typical that the people who don't have to use the vehicles get to choose what the vehicles get based on cost cutting and having no idea what is good or not while not realizing that their "cost cutting" is basically saying "we value the money we save more than the life you lose".

    • @mic4831
      @mic4831 14 дней назад

      The challenger 3 will be a mix of the BAe and Rhinematal prototypes, it has the new turret with the aps and all the other upgrades. Just look it up

    • @kaiotie1
      @kaiotie1 14 дней назад

      @@mic4831 yeah I have, they arnt going to use any APS systems due to funding, and there is 0 confirmation of blow-out pannels within the turret even with the new smoothbore gun because of cost cuts hel, there isnt even any evidence of them on the vehicle itself; it still fits the old challenger 2 ROMOR ERA package on the hull, so they will likely reuse that despite its obvious weaknesses and vulnerabilities to peer to peer adversaries. the only real change from challenger 2 to challenger 3 is better armour, potentially a new engine, new gun and new electronic equipment internally such as cameras and CITV improvements; not much else has changed.

    • @mic4831
      @mic4831 14 дней назад

      ​@@kaiotie1thats 3 sources, first two are UK gov and the last is from RSBL group, the modifications are extensive, i dont know if it will have blowout pannels as they are vauge on the survivability improvements

    • @mic4831
      @mic4831 14 дней назад

      ​@@kaiotie1to summerise:
      A new armour package and aps, new sensor package and digital infastructure; gen 2 thermals for both gunner and commander: new 1500hp engine; next gen hydro gas suspension; and a new turret with the 120mm smoothbore gun.
      There is more but look at the sources i linked

  • @zozita.
    @zozita. 15 дней назад +2

    ❤👍

  • @user-mz3in7vo5b
    @user-mz3in7vo5b 13 дней назад +2

    "AI" will render electronic counter-measures useless.

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад

      100% and when they swarm your done.

    • @ASpyNamedJames
      @ASpyNamedJames 12 дней назад

      No it won't you . AI needs sensors to function same as everything else. 🙄

    • @BFP8447
      @BFP8447 10 дней назад

      @@ASpyNamedJames Try jamming a camera from 1 km away.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      @@ASpyNamedJames EW systems doesn't typically impact sensors including cameras. They work by yelling loud enough that the drones signal can't be heard within the noise. So are essentially completely ineffective against a drone that doesn't need to transmit that signal

  • @emersonmsd
    @emersonmsd 13 дней назад +1

    Think cold war not desert storm.

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад +1

      Desert Storm was so one sided. This will be another level just ask the Ukrainians how they got on after 10 years training ! What fools we all are.

  • @VictoriaWargaming
    @VictoriaWargaming 12 дней назад

    as effective as "Duck and Cover".

  • @user-kh3nz9lb2k
    @user-kh3nz9lb2k 14 дней назад +1

    defend from drones? OK.... all you have to worry about now is the Yanks.

  • @HuplesCat
    @HuplesCat 14 дней назад +5

    Literally no cage on the turret? Useless

  • @user-pu5yg6hf9i
    @user-pu5yg6hf9i 12 дней назад

    Basically they are preparing to go into Ukraine to fight Russia

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад +1

      Good luck on that one. The outcome will be a lot of body bags that the UK can't and won't accept. We moaned when 20 or so came back from Afghanistan what will they do when a Brigade gets destroyed ! which it will. Remember Russia has 10X more of everything. This is a fools errand.

  • @a_bar8579
    @a_bar8579 10 дней назад

    You must know that the military army, like the football team, must always train and practice its work!

  • @gocrazy336
    @gocrazy336 9 дней назад

    Wars go on for decades equipment gets blown up put out of action

  • @daveh5947
    @daveh5947 13 дней назад

    Absolutely ridiculous destroying the Environment.. !

    • @TanksInSpace_
      @TanksInSpace_ 10 дней назад

      It's the opposite, military training areas are among the most thriving wildlife regions in Europe. They are vast and seldom disturbed, often serving as the last sanctuary for endangered species.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      The device that you posted this message from contributed to destroying the environment.
      Ridiculous that you are using it. /s

  • @aib0160
    @aib0160 12 дней назад

    Other than Poland where are all the EU troops and armour?

  • @Slipzedits
    @Slipzedits 13 дней назад

    you can’t hide you just get lucky

  • @user-kn4hp4hk5c
    @user-kn4hp4hk5c 14 дней назад +1

    You can have the best tanks and armoured vehicles in the world but as we've seen their all vulnerable to drone attack. It's looking more and more likely that war with Russia is unavoidable sadly it seems as though neither side learned anything from the first two World Wars even with such similarities. This coming war I fear will be far far worse for all mankind if the madness ensues

  • @tomasnovak71
    @tomasnovak71 13 дней назад

    and where does the British military have experience in combating drones? That he can teach and pass on experience? Where is he in the last 20 years of war that he knows how it goes?

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад

      Painting Rainbows on tanks and wearing skirts I guess to fit in with the new crowd of sissys.

  • @rgen28
    @rgen28 14 дней назад +2

    We need energy shields!

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад

      We need to keep our nose out of things that do not concern us. Trade with Russia don't fight it as there is only one outcome a defeat. GO ask a German.

    • @rgen28
      @rgen28 12 дней назад

      Hahahah. I take shields instead.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      @@michaeldawson6309 no thanks, zero desire to trade with countries acting like common criminals.

  • @lewismorgan839
    @lewismorgan839 13 дней назад

    British tanks are to heavy

  • @mr_tony_anbu7764
    @mr_tony_anbu7764 15 дней назад +5

    All these army videos... Prince William in a Apache Helicopter....something tells me we are not far off WW3

    • @kkmardigrce
      @kkmardigrce 13 дней назад

      And all this because NATO would never stop expanding otherwise. Ah well, I guess we're too stupid a species to be alive.

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 12 дней назад

      Prince Billy will be just another target. I bet the Royal fools will be no where to be seen on the Russian front ! They appear with advanced weapons to chase men in sandals ! Cowards.

  • @jetfighter200
    @jetfighter200 14 дней назад

    you can not hide from X-Wings

  • @Google_Does_Evil_Now
    @Google_Does_Evil_Now 9 дней назад

    Forces News, is there a reason we don't see any tunneling machinery here on this test or in use in Ukraine? Small tunnel borers could dig 50m to 100m a day. Within a few weeks you can move a lot of guys behind the enemy line, attack front and back, cut off their resupply.
    And you have the tunnels for protection from drones.
    House builders use conveyer belts for moving the muck from the ground. There are small enough diggers and borers, that pass the much behind them, onto conveyor belts. Hand diggers can also throw muck onto the belts.
    The muck could be thrown/stacked around areas/machinery you want to protect. We seen the corrugated sheets. Throw the muck against the exposed side of those sheets and it's good protection.
    Those drones must be weak to mud. If they can't see, they can't hit, right? So what about a water squirter with dirty/sticky fluid? Or if it's powerful enough or will knock out the drone. Even using the muck from the digging into a compressed pipe and aimed at incoming drones, surely that would have an effect like shrapnel. No ammunition necessary, just compressed air and dirt.
    Could easily have multiple tubes pre filled with compressed dirt and air, fixed around the vehicle. Or on an aiming system. Very very cheap. Reusable. Refillable. Can also be taken off the vehicle and used to protect troop areas as a form of trip wire defence.
    They can run out of ammo. They won't run out of dirt.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 8 дней назад

      Smoke is well developed and likely better at blocking vision than mud.

  • @johnribble
    @johnribble 14 дней назад +1

    ECM

    • @BFP8447
      @BFP8447 10 дней назад

      Russians are testing drones rquipped with fibre optic cable.

  • @Infopirates
    @Infopirates 14 дней назад

    I can't see any protections against drones on those machines🤓🤓🤓🤓

  • @danielstroubledthoughts5386
    @danielstroubledthoughts5386 11 дней назад

    Makes a drone any xbox player can fly... You win simple.

  • @user-xq2pl1fp1n
    @user-xq2pl1fp1n 13 дней назад

    about the mentioned Afghanistan. THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS for the occupation

  • @donaldedgar1004
    @donaldedgar1004 11 дней назад

    At least nato is now getting it together no more sitting ducks all day n a row then 😂

  • @trinolopez7809
    @trinolopez7809 14 дней назад +1

    ¿Qué les pueden enseñar a los piratas?

  • @shopstuff5
    @shopstuff5 14 дней назад

    So let’s tell the whole world how to do this???????

  • @ziepex7009
    @ziepex7009 4 дня назад

    "russia bad wahh"

  • @mrblurblur2003
    @mrblurblur2003 13 дней назад

    All this Nato commanders is talk talk talk. Hilarious soldiers on the run. 🤣

  • @BslmUSA
    @BslmUSA 14 дней назад

    Making turtle shell

  • @campbell4show
    @campbell4show 13 дней назад

    Hide from them? The Ukraine war has taught us from the drone vids, you can't hide from them! Tanks needs anti-drone technology, and the technology is there...

  • @Ali-su5so
    @Ali-su5so 15 дней назад

    This is impossible I guess.

  • @cugelchannel4733
    @cugelchannel4733 14 дней назад +1

    Ukraine is like a warning of what happens when you don't have air supremacy. In Day 1 of the Air Campaign of Desert Storm, the US launched EF-111 radar jamming aircraft and long range Tomahawk Cruise Missiles from B-52s and hit air defense sites with a barrage of Hellfire missiles from Apache helicopters. They took out Iraqi radars, electronic warfare and command and control leaving the Iraqis blind before the Air Campaign turned to actual bombing of tanks and APCs. Ukraine simply doesn't have any of those assets. The Allies had hundreds of F-16s; Ukraine will soon get a small handful. Drones have changed warfare, but only if you don't have long range electronic jamming, cruise missiles and anti-radiation missiles in large numbers to overwhelm air defenses. NATO would never engage their forces on the ground without air supremacy; which they achieve Day 1.

    • @frankrenda2519
      @frankrenda2519 14 дней назад

      why are you talking about the usa and it vassals beating a third world country why don't you try the same operation with russia you wouldn't have any superiority

    • @letsplaywar
      @letsplaywar 13 дней назад

      @@frankrenda2519 Are you Russian or pro-Russian? I don't want war with Russia but it seems like Russia must be defeated in war.

  • @carlos6501
    @carlos6501 11 дней назад

    May be sounds like a joke,but why doesnt tanks hide in a really bad decoy of a tank ?.should be brilljant idea!. Or have a column of vehicles under camouflage band.and you only can distinguish very good the shapes of decoys under the camouflage,while the real ones you cant see the shape .should be very confusing for kamicace drones and other precision artilleri,