I used to fly my hang glider out there. We'd launch off overlooking the desert and hoped we didn't go down. The idea was to get lift and go up and head up range. I used to finally land at the lake. Been thousands of feet over that lake in the clouds in my hang glider.
I'm so gratified that the thermals were so friendly for you, for your flights. If I took up hang gliding, I'd probably restrict myself to just flights over the Lagunas myself, if the thermals are all that friendly and reliable.
@@swithinbarclay4797 Well.... It takes skill to stay up. You DON"t want to go down in the desert if you can help it. Hot, no seeums, and a long walk with your gear to the road. You aren't always successful with thermaling. I've never gone down in that desert but it's happened to me in plenty of other places.
You have a very pleasant way to present your journeys. That alone adds flavor to your descriptions ;- ) To me your So Cal descriptions are especially valuable as I travel almost annually from and back to Alaska, but have yet to get more familiar with your part of the State. Will check out a number of your recommendations in the coming weeks. Keep up the good work.
Duuuuuuuude. Could not agree more. Not from So Cal...but have been visiting a lot. Found this little gem of a highway and stop every time at the Pine for food. Everything there I've had was excellent. There is one spot on the highway where you look west and see nothing but green and look west and you see the desert. Amazing! And if you get a chance continue to Julian for a "nickel beer" and then take 78 down to Banner on one of the twistiest, tastiest backroads I've ever been on. (Maybe grab a beer AFTER driving on 78!
Yes! We filmed this on a Saturday too, and despite it being a beautiful day and less than an hour from San Diego there wasn't a whole lot of people around.
Sunrise Highway was my favorite bicycle ride back when I lived in San Diego twenty five years ago. Even watching a video of it all these years later still makes my legs hurt. Thanks for the tour!
I moved to San Diego fifty years ago and was riding my motorcycle due east on Hyway 8 until I discovered Sunrise highway cut into the hillsides going north. I was thrilled to make such a great discovery. A great road to drive on. Heading north on the Sunrise highway from Route 8 you have the hills on the right going up and a sheer drop into canyons to huge desert below. You can see the road cut into the hill sides from miles away. Great twisties.
I look forward to Tuesdays to see your videos. I live in Arizona now, and your San Diego videos remind me of home. I really enjoy your adventures. Keep up the great work Steve!!!
For the better part of six months I rode that loop on my bike almost weekly while I was stationed at NAS North Island during the late 70s. As I worked night check at the base, I would blast out Highway 8 during the mornings on weekdays when there was hardly any traffic at all on the Sunrise Highway. As you say, it really lets a person decompress. Haven't been on the highway in decades but will be sure to visit on my next time through...didn't know about the old road (have always been fascinated by them). Keep up the good work, really enjoy it.
I was stationed at NAS Miramar during that same time and absolutely loved exploring the mountains and desert. Mt Laguna and Julian were some of my favorite day trips. Maybe we even passed each other on the road.
Surreal to have driven myself on these roads and to later find out that someone has made a quality video detailing the trip and history on the road. Great work.
Kawasaki KLR 650! GREAT adventure touring bike, good choice. I rode one around the Cleveland for many years. Try Pine Creek Road for a nice fire road/off road diversion.
You do a great job narrating these videos and keeping them very interesting. There's no fodder and you're able to get to the point in a short amount of time and cover alot of ground. Love your channel!
"Fodder"?? If, that's what you really mean, it doesn't sound all that horse-friendly, if you're an equestrian(Laughs!!). Otherwise, from the best that I can determine, it seems like an ideal province, for horseback riders and their mounts.
Just like taking the little hike in Sequoia National Park during the full moon, from the SE Giant Forest Grove to the summit of Moro Rock, especially the muted reds of the massive tree trunks gleaming in the moonlight!
I have been a subscriber for awhile now, so some of your past videos pop up, for which I am always grateful. I worked on the Cedar Fire in 2003, and drove Sunrise Hwy a lot. A Lot! It was still worth it though, and I do remember the view of Anza Borrego. At the time, I remember thinking what an awful section of stagecoach road that must have been back in the day.
As a former San Diego north county resident have been on that road many times, always enjoyed it any time of year. My granddaughter first played in snow on Mt Laguna then had hot chocolate at the lodge, also stopped there many times. Will have to take a drive up that way when in the area again.
Got out there alone last week and loved it so much I went back the next day. Had a mustang as a rental car so it made it a nice drive. There’s something about being alone in the desert
When I was a boy scout back in the 1970s I used to camp with my scout troop at horse heaven camp ground. It's there somewhere in the direction of Mt. Laguna, not quite sure because I have not been back for decades. Nice video👌
One of the guilty pleasures in my youth was testing my driving skills on the S1, between Julian and I-8. The road is well maintained, nearly deserted midweek, and, uh, not really patrolled by Johnny Law. 😉
The part of the Sunrise Highway I am familiar with begins at US HWY 80 uphill just east of Pine Valley. But the road you drive on now is not the original road going up the mountain. Today's road goes up the east side of the valley. The original road went up the west side. For years, you could drive up the Sunrise Highway's present alignment and see the abandoned concrete road, but for some reason, the old road disappeared either from San Diego County digging it up, or from slides due to inclement weather. As you get near the summit, there are some spectacular views of the desert without even having to leave your car. Another point of interest, the Sunrise Highway comes up to the highest elevation in San Diego County. Over 6,000 feet. There's a sign beside the highway near where it levels out a little bit, where winter snow hounds like to park and throw snowballs, whenever that extremely rare occasion affords such an adventure.
Driven this many times and recommend it to all car enthusiasts and bikers to drive. Take a break stop for a leisurely meal at one the fine restaurants. Have fun. The loop trip is perfect drive.
Great vid! My wife and I have ridden this route many times on our motorcycle. You have pointed out a few places we need to stop and explore more! Thanks for producing such wonderful videos!
There sure is a lot of back country in San Diego County! Keep up the explorations. The Butterfield Overland Stage route cut thru from Imperial Valley a bit north of your trip. I camped at Los Coyotes Reservation campground.
Love it! My favorite remote astronomical observing location was just west of Kitchen Creek Rd. about 1/3 of a mile south of Sunrise Highway. It was only about 35 minutes from sea level, my home in the El Cajon valley, to 6,000 ft. I really miss that place ... actually all of the back country in eastern San Diego County. I really appreciated this video.Thank you so much!!!
Very nice drive, I have always liked the scenery in eastern and southern California, but I don't get down there often enough. Thank you for the great video.
I drove it from I-8 to Mount Laguna Lodge 20 years ago. I had a Geo Tracker. Which was a fake Jeep CJ imitation. I guess the car made me adventurous. The drive is not for the faint of heart in the winter. Narrow two lane paved road with some crazy turns and STEEP drop offs.
@@DavidRichTheForth No it was 4 cylinder. But like I said it made me brave. I had just gotten out of the Marines and still had that feeling of invinciblity I would not try that drive again without a better vehicle.
@@John_Henry83 Hey, every time I see a Geo, I look at it as a classic. Specifically the Metro. It’s amazing how many there are today. Another vehicle that is a classic from that era is the top heavy Samurai! Thanks
Another scenic highway in San Bernadino county is SR 38. The highway starts in the south in Mentone, Ca. and travels through the San Gorgonio wilderness, to Big Bear Lake and communities about 50 miles later. Check it out. Onward!
for anyone thinking about going here...take note that the i-8 freeway is currently under construction along that stretch of road...and they got that sht down to one lane...
Could you link a Google map link or spell out where is there drivable Cuyamackie point is? I would like to drive there but I can’t find it. Would be helpful to provide for others. Thanks!
Just a reminder, veterans and active duty get in to all federal parks for free. I think that many state parks offer the same thing. Also, I believe this applies to family members.
Steve, the information about the California adventure pass isn’t entirely correct, you only need that pass on the other side of that sign. If you stop in the parking lot just short of that sign, you do not need a pass. I mountain bike up there all the time, and I do have a California adventure pass. Great videos by the way!
@@MountainFisher yep, you need to purchase a California Adventure Pass (yearly pass) to park your car within a state park like Mt Laguna in this video. You can park outside of the park and walk or ride your bicycle in the park without a pass.
Amazing views is right. However, if this was Oregon, the views would be green forests, or at least in areas where logging hasn't been allowed. And lots of creeks and small rivers.
@@SidetrackAdventures Well, the 1st time I rode Nobel I was buzzing along through the woods, and just as I was thinking, "This is without a doubt the greatest bike ride I've ever been on!" I hit a rock or something wrong, went over the handlebars, got a double separation on my right shoulder, and knocked myself out. Had to hike out of there. So, once I healed up, I bought a moto-cross chest and back protector, a better helmet with a face shield, and arm, elbow, shin & knee pads, and went back MANY times, including a couple times in the snow. Haven't been back since my bike got stolen, unfortunately, but at least I won't kill myself there now! ruclips.net/video/rl5rsInTwaw/видео.html
SHUsh, shushh! Your are supposed to keep this one secret! This is AKA: The Julian Pie Run! Named for the "pie" shape of the map of CA-79 and S-1 along with a stop at the Worlds Famous Julian CA. That is a must stop for any pie lover. This ride is my personal favorite in So-Cal. Word to the wise: This loop is heavily patrolled and it is a winding mountain road. Drive and ride safely and obey the posted speeds. Keep an eye out for deer and wild turkey! There are a lot of them! Julian does get "PACKED" with folks on the weekends! The pie shops and restaurants have come up with a fantastic plan to keep you from standing in line for long waits: Just give the Host or Hostess your mobile number and they will text you 10 minutes before your table is ready! Easy to walk from one end of town to the other in 5 minutes. Hope to see you there! EDIT: No i don't live or work there! Just my favorite day ride! So long as the temps are below three digits (We Ride). Wind burn is worse than sunburn, just sayin.. Have a GREAT DAY!
Thanks, "Scott", I've JUST made a mental note of THAT!! Nothing possible could beat a big slab of pie a la mode, with that huge scoop of ice cream, on a HOT summer's day, unless Julian also may possibly have an old-fashioned creamery/soda fountain, where I could grab me a RICH magnum malt!!
I used to fly my hang glider out there. We'd launch off overlooking the desert and hoped we didn't go down. The idea was to get lift and go up and head up range. I used to finally land at the lake. Been thousands of feet over that lake in the clouds in my hang glider.
I'm so gratified that the thermals were so friendly for you, for your flights. If I took up hang gliding, I'd probably restrict myself to just flights over the Lagunas myself, if the thermals are all that friendly and reliable.
@@swithinbarclay4797 Well.... It takes skill to stay up. You DON"t want to go down in the desert if you can help it. Hot, no seeums, and a long walk with your gear to the road. You aren't always successful with thermaling. I've never gone down in that desert but it's happened to me in plenty of other places.
That sounds wonderful
You have a very pleasant way to present your journeys. That alone adds flavor to your descriptions ;- )
To me your So Cal descriptions are especially valuable as I travel almost annually from and back to Alaska, but have yet to get more familiar with your part of the State. Will check out a number of your recommendations in the coming weeks. Keep up the good work.
Duuuuuuuude. Could not agree more. Not from So Cal...but have been visiting a lot. Found this little gem of a highway and stop every time at the Pine for food. Everything there I've had was excellent. There is one spot on the highway where you look west and see nothing but green and look west and you see the desert. Amazing! And if you get a chance continue to Julian for a "nickel beer" and then take 78 down to Banner on one of the twistiest, tastiest backroads I've ever been on. (Maybe grab a beer AFTER driving on 78!
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Such a scenic drive! I love when it just feels like you're alone with just nature and the road!
Yes! We filmed this on a Saturday too, and despite it being a beautiful day and less than an hour from San Diego there wasn't a whole lot of people around.
Easy summer day-drive. I am glad I finally watched this. Thanks for the tips.
We found a beautiful spot to scatter my Sisters ashes near Mount Laguna. She absolutely loved it up there, so beautiful.
Sunrise Highway was my favorite bicycle ride back when I lived in San Diego twenty five years ago. Even watching a video of it all these years later still makes my legs hurt.
Thanks for the tour!
I moved to San Diego fifty years ago and was riding my motorcycle due east on Hyway 8 until I discovered Sunrise highway cut into the hillsides going north. I was thrilled to make such a great discovery. A great road to drive on. Heading north on the Sunrise highway from Route 8 you have the hills on the right going up and a sheer drop into canyons to huge desert below. You can see the road cut into the hill sides from miles away. Great twisties.
My old stomping grounds! I have hiked every one of those trails and stayed at every campground at one time of the other. Great memories!
Always a great scenic ride but especially in the fall.
I look forward to Tuesdays to see your videos. I live in Arizona now, and your San Diego videos remind me of home. I really enjoy your adventures. Keep up the great work Steve!!!
Yes. I was fortunate enough to visit this road in the spring. Great drive. Choose the loop drive.
For the better part of six months I rode that loop on my bike almost weekly while I was stationed at NAS North Island during the late 70s. As I worked night check at the base, I would blast out Highway 8 during the mornings on weekdays when there was hardly any traffic at all on the Sunrise Highway. As you say, it really lets a person decompress. Haven't been on the highway in decades but will be sure to visit on my next time through...didn't know about the old road (have always been fascinated by them). Keep up the good work, really enjoy it.
Thank you.
I was stationed at NAS Miramar during that same time and absolutely loved exploring the mountains and desert. Mt Laguna and Julian were some of my favorite day trips. Maybe we even passed each other on the road.
Abandoned highways is YOUR THING! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. You really take us places! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I’ve lived in San Diego all my life and just hearing about this. I have to go now!
Surreal to have driven myself on these roads and to later find out that someone has made a quality video detailing the trip and history on the road. Great work.
I live in Riverside, Ca. I am putting this on my list for January. Looks great to do on my Motorcycle. KLR 650
I hear it is a great motorcycle trip. Always see lots of them out there.
@@SidetrackAdventures I did Route 66 in 2018 on this same motorcycle. I did a series of youtube videos on it.
Yes thinking the same thing ha. There are a few Motovloggers who film up there. Have fun ride safe!
Kawasaki KLR 650! GREAT adventure touring bike, good choice. I rode one around the Cleveland for many years. Try Pine Creek Road for a nice fire road/off road diversion.
I had a KLR as well. Maybe the funnest bike I've owned. Sadly, stolen out of my garage
Thanks again for a great day trip idea. Can't wait till I get My Aptera 1000 mile range vehicle. You have expanded my DTBL (Day Trip Bucket List)
Thank you for watching. It's definitely a great day trip.
Wow that Aptera solar car looks wild. That would be an awesome drive with it ha. 👌🏼
You do a great job narrating these videos and keeping them very interesting. There's no fodder and you're able to get to the point in a short amount of time and cover alot of ground. Love your channel!
Glad you like them!
"Fodder"?? If, that's what you really mean, it doesn't sound all that horse-friendly, if you're an equestrian(Laughs!!). Otherwise, from the best that I can determine, it seems like an ideal province, for horseback riders and their mounts.
snow in laguna 50s 60s was great fun we had a clear view out our back window of mt laguna from lemon grove ca
Used to live there ...
"The best climate on Earth."
More fun Professor Steve…I’m still time traveling through the southwest with ancient videos….
brother im really starting to enjoy your videos, thank you.
Glad you like them!
So happy to know about this drive. Can't wait to take it!
A wonderful drive in winter
Yes, I love it with all the snow.
Great video! Garante Peak trail on a full moon is excellent!
Just like taking the little hike in Sequoia National Park during the full moon, from the SE Giant Forest Grove to the summit of Moro Rock, especially the muted reds of the massive tree trunks gleaming in the moonlight!
I have really enjoyed watching your videos
Thanks for showing these places great video :)
I have been a subscriber for awhile now, so some of your past videos pop up, for which I am always grateful. I worked on the Cedar Fire in 2003, and drove Sunrise Hwy a lot. A Lot! It was still worth it though, and I do remember the view of Anza Borrego. At the time, I remember thinking what an awful section of stagecoach road that must have been back in the day.
Its amazing how much damage you can still see from the Cedar Fire out there.
As a former San Diego north county resident have been on that road many times, always enjoyed it any time of year. My granddaughter first played in snow on Mt Laguna then had hot chocolate at the lodge, also stopped there many times. Will have to take a drive up that way when in the area again.
Got out there alone last week and loved it so much I went back the next day. Had a mustang as a rental car so it made it a nice drive.
There’s something about being alone in the desert
When I was a boy scout back in the 1970s I used to camp with my scout troop at horse heaven camp ground. It's there somewhere in the direction of Mt. Laguna, not quite sure because I have not been back for decades. Nice video👌
There was a boy scout camp up by the lake that burnt down awhile ago. Was that it? Cuyamaca i believe
One of the guilty pleasures in my youth was testing my driving skills on the S1, between Julian and I-8. The road is well maintained, nearly deserted midweek, and, uh, not really patrolled by Johnny Law. 😉
The part of the Sunrise Highway I am familiar with begins at US HWY 80 uphill just east of Pine Valley. But the road you drive on now is not the original road going up the mountain. Today's road goes up the east side of the valley. The original road went up the west side. For years, you could drive up the Sunrise Highway's present alignment and see the abandoned concrete road, but for some reason, the old road disappeared either from San Diego County digging it up, or from slides due to inclement weather. As you get near the summit, there are some spectacular views of the desert without even having to leave your car. Another point of interest, the Sunrise Highway comes up to the highest elevation in San Diego County. Over 6,000 feet. There's a sign beside the highway near where it levels out a little bit, where winter snow hounds like to park and throw snowballs, whenever that extremely rare occasion affords such an adventure.
Thanks for a beautiful video people, cheers! uk
Excellent, excellent. One of my favorites Steve.
Driven this many times and recommend it to all car enthusiasts and bikers to drive. Take a break stop for a leisurely meal at one the fine restaurants. Have fun. The loop trip is perfect drive.
Thank you Steve ❤ Beautiful Scenery
Oh great I enjoyed this so much thumb up💗👍
Hope you have a lovely weekend friend 🥰
I told the Corvette about this road and she insists that we have to go drive the loop immediately! 😛
Great vid! My wife and I have ridden this route many times on our motorcycle. You have pointed out a few places we need to stop and explore more! Thanks for producing such wonderful videos!
There sure is a lot of back country in San Diego County! Keep up the explorations.
The Butterfield Overland Stage route cut thru from Imperial Valley a bit north of your trip. I camped at Los Coyotes Reservation campground.
Thanks for making these great videos.
Awesome video, and highway! I take my modified 2004 Mercury Marauder to "turn some laps" on Sunrise, I have it memorized. Cheers!
You sure picked a beautiful day for the drive. You make me wish I was still living in San Diego. Nice video!
Thank you. We were a little worried because it was cloudy in the city but luckily it cleared up as we went east.
Love the sunrise highway. I always go through it instead of the 79 whenever I go to Julian.
Awesome video as always. Thank you for sharing it. Cheers from Florida.
Thank you very much!
Great video! My parents had a cabin on Mt Laguna for 25 years. Love it up there!
Great stuff MrSteve☺️
that looks absolutely gorgeous - thanks for the vid. Love the old/abandoned road info too.
beautiful
I have been on bits and parts of Sunrise Hwy I remember Garrett Pt.
I rarely comment, but love your content and have been subscribing for a while
Thank you, we really appreciate it.
WOW, I need to plan a trip......
WOW that was a very nice field trip. Thanks for the share.
Glad you enjoyed it
Love it! My favorite remote astronomical observing location was just west of Kitchen Creek Rd. about 1/3 of a mile south of Sunrise Highway.
It was only about 35 minutes from sea level, my home in the El Cajon valley, to 6,000 ft.
I really miss that place ... actually all of the back country in eastern San Diego County.
I really appreciated this video.Thank you so much!!!
Very nice drive, I have always liked the scenery in eastern and southern California, but I don't get down there often enough. Thank you for the great video.
I drove it from I-8 to Mount Laguna Lodge 20 years ago. I had a Geo Tracker. Which was a fake Jeep CJ imitation. I guess the car made me adventurous. The drive is not for the faint of heart in the winter. Narrow two lane paved road with some crazy turns and STEEP drop offs.
Did your Tracker have a 3cyl like the Metro?! Lol. Classic
@@DavidRichTheForth No it was 4 cylinder. But like I said it made me brave. I had just gotten out of the Marines and still had that feeling of invinciblity I would not try that drive again without a better vehicle.
@@John_Henry83 Hey, every time I see a Geo, I look at it as a classic. Specifically the Metro. It’s amazing how many there are today. Another vehicle that is a classic from that era is the top heavy Samurai! Thanks
Another scenic highway in San Bernadino county is SR 38. The highway starts in the south in Mentone, Ca. and travels through the San Gorgonio wilderness, to Big Bear Lake and communities about 50 miles later. Check it out. Onward!
SR38 also goes over Onyx Summit over 8,000 feet.
Another professional quality video, showing what a great place San Diego County is to live in!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really enjoy your videos.
Thanks!
Another great video. Thanks for noting the POIs along the way! Such a great area right in our backyard from OC! 👌🏼
We’ll be checking this out soon. Good video
Really a nice drive.
I love riding up S1 (even when it's cold!)
Its such a great drive and you can see the seasons there.
You’re going to make me move back there! That’s a motorcycle ride waiting to happen, too.
We always see a lot of motorcycles out there.
I wish I had made the turn to julien and followed 79 into the desert!!
Next time!
great S1 trip !
The French onion soup is great and well worth the taunting....
I'm so homesick.
Next time take the old Stage Coach road just east of Kwaaimii Lookout. Looks Historical.
I'll check it out for sure. I stopped at the picnic area but didn't really see much.
Hit us with one from the ortega hwy please,, thx. Great series👍
I did a video on it awhile back, but its somewhat outdated now because of a couple closures.
Was that a cattle guard at the start of the Sunrise Highway?
Loved it
First like woohoo love all your stuff
Awesome! Thank you for being 1st!
@@SidetrackAdventures plan to very soon use your videos for a historic trip of socal
for anyone thinking about going here...take note that the i-8 freeway is currently under construction along that stretch of road...and they got that sht down to one lane...
I grew up going to Julian up sunrise highway. It's the local Indian tribe. Pronounced: KOO-MY-AY
Could you link a Google map link or spell out where is there drivable Cuyamackie point is? I would like to drive there but I can’t find it. Would be helpful to provide for others. Thanks!
You didn’t say Welcome to Sidetrack Adventures. This is Steve.
Just a reminder, veterans and active duty get in to all federal parks for free. I think that many state parks offer the same thing. Also, I believe this applies to family members.
i think this video could be way better if u explore more area there .
Steve, the information about the California adventure pass isn’t entirely correct, you only need that pass on the other side of that sign. If you stop in the parking lot just short of that sign, you do not need a pass. I mountain bike up there all the time, and I do have a California adventure pass. Great videos by the way!
I live in New Mexico and what pass? Is this a California thing? I ask because we do not need a pass to stop in National Forests here.
@@MountainFisher yep, you need to purchase a California Adventure Pass (yearly pass) to park your car within a state park like Mt Laguna in this video. You can park outside of the park and walk or ride your bicycle in the park without a pass.
Amazing views is right. However, if this was Oregon, the views would be green forests, or at least in areas where logging hasn't been allowed. And lots of creeks and small rivers.
I love Oregon! My mom is from there and my grandparents lived there so I used to go at least once a year. Planning on going back this year too.
When did they move the road
Are you able to provide a Google Maps link that covers this journey?
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Great video! by the way, it's pronounced KOOM yai
That's how Kumeyaay is pronounced, but Kwaaymi Point is different I believe.
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Nobel Canyon is one of the greatest mountain biking trails you'll ever find. Not for the novice though.
We've gotten into biking lately but we are novices for sure.
@@SidetrackAdventures Well, the 1st time I rode Nobel I was buzzing along through the woods, and just as I was thinking, "This is without a doubt the greatest bike ride I've ever been on!" I hit a rock or something wrong, went over the handlebars, got a double separation on my right shoulder, and knocked myself out. Had to hike out of there.
So, once I healed up, I bought a moto-cross chest and back protector, a better helmet with a face shield, and arm, elbow, shin & knee pads, and went back MANY times, including a couple times in the snow. Haven't been back since my bike got stolen, unfortunately, but at least I won't kill myself there now!
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It's Kwam..like mom.
SHUsh, shushh! Your are supposed to keep this one secret!
This is AKA: The Julian Pie Run! Named for the "pie" shape of the map of CA-79 and S-1 along with a stop at the Worlds Famous Julian CA. That is a must stop for any pie lover. This ride is my personal favorite in So-Cal. Word to the wise: This loop is heavily patrolled and it is a winding mountain road. Drive and ride safely and obey the posted speeds. Keep an eye out for deer and wild turkey! There are a lot of them! Julian does get "PACKED" with folks on the weekends! The pie shops and restaurants have come up with a fantastic plan to keep you from standing in line for long waits: Just give the Host or Hostess your mobile number and they will text you 10 minutes before your table is ready! Easy to walk from one end of town to the other in 5 minutes. Hope to see you there!
EDIT: No i don't live or work there! Just my favorite day ride! So long as the temps are below three digits (We Ride). Wind burn is worse than sunburn, just sayin.. Have a GREAT DAY!
Thanks, "Scott", I've JUST made a mental note of THAT!! Nothing possible could beat a big slab of pie a la mode, with that huge scoop of ice cream, on a HOT summer's day, unless Julian also may possibly have an old-fashioned creamery/soda fountain, where I could grab me a RICH magnum malt!!
I think it’s cuumei
Those gas prices though.
i think its pronounced kw-AH-mee
FN Cali tax tax tax
I wish I could just choose what my taxes go toward so I wouldn't habe to pay extra for an adventure pass