Plunderstorm is FANTASTIC and Everyone is ANGRY About It
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If this had a pve version where I could play against various skill level of bots rather than other players (and have the progression or renown or rewards or whatever be like 1/5th that of pvp to incentivize the pvp without requiring it) and it was always around so I didn't have FOMO in order to get the rewards, then I would probably really enjoy playing around with this. Unfortunately I have no interest in pvp and I'm currently on haitus from WoW and playing FF14 so...I just miss out I guess, and that's a shame, cuz some of those rewards look really really nice and so I'm just...missing out. Feels bad.
I do not like PvP either and not saying your feelings are invalid but I get in, do my quests and PvE stuff, die. I am almost 40 renown and we have 24 days left. You do not have to engage in PvP at all to get the stuff.
Really hope they just keep this up and roll it in as a full on mode for PvP like Crystaline Conflict became for FFXIV. Lot of fun and different maps could literally just be pulled from zones around azeroth and pvp maps.
There is also a decent crossover between collectors and PVP haters. So, yeah...
This event isn't anything like WoW PVP. So, yeah...
_I genuinely despise WoW PVP due to the heavy focus on CC, so I avoid it like the plague...hence I'm dogshit at WoW PVP._
_Yet in Plunderstorm I already won 3 matches after 2 short sessions. And if all you care about is collecting the rewards, you don't need to try to win...go watch Bellulars vid on it he has some decent tips for how to get Plunder fast._
_Also, pro tip: try to have fun with things before you start complaining about them, you might find that there are ways to do them or aspects of them that you can enjoy. o7_
@@handsomebear. Funnily enough I die from CCs in plunderstorm mostly xD
I'm genuinely baffled how out of their mind the collectors got. Like their idea of a game is just filling in a spreadsheet. They talked like their life would be ruined if they didn't get the cosmetics from this.
Me and my boyfriend have been playing it very much PvE-focused. Neither of us are huge PvPers but we are both collectors, so this is something we both want to max out so we get the rewards, but as you stated - that's part of the deal with being a collector. We tend to zone in, focus on getting the guaranteed 250 plunder from the quest, then we kill as many rares as we can, loot chests and as long as we're getting more than 500 plunder a match (not that difficult to get) we're happy. When we run into other players we'll put up a fight and actually try to win, we're not just going to give people free kills, but its very much a "ah we died, okay let's just queue again." kinda thing. We're having more fun than we expected, but 1000% once we hit max Renown we will both be done and won't be going back.
That's great but do that alone and see how you feel. Most people who have had friends in wow find themselves still playing while others have left. Stuff like this is just another nudge out the door
As for the leveling system and not playing the game part / not getting rewards.
Well currently one of the fastest and most reliable ways to renown grind for an average player is just spawn, do the quest, clear the initial area, die, requeue.
So unlike what is said in the video - not participating in the game actually gets you best rewards.
That is playing the game mode tho. The devs specifically mentioned that if you just wanted renown then you could just do the pve. What Preach is saying that just hiding, trying to snipe a win at the end, is not playing and shouldn't be encouraged.
With the changes if you can reliably get to the top finishes or even win, that's better now. Towards the end of the match if you kill someone you might get like 300 plunder, and if you can win you get 500. I've seen game end screens of people getting 3200 and 4800 plunder with a win.
@@Williame526 no one tell preach that's how most people win at battle royales, endless ratting and third partying
@@Mosan13 That's why I wrote "most reliable for an average player" - most people will not achieve top spots to get that 3-4k, while they can easily get 400-600 on repeat for 3-5 mins of play
That is still participating in the PvE part even if they choose to die immediately after. What he is saying is people sitting around wasting 10-15 mins doing nothing trying to be top 3 is the slowest way to grind.
Glad some people are enjoying it. Me nope never liked battle royal games
Yea its just a silly side game. Like getting the turtles to the water. Its just a side game no big stress.
That's the cool thing it's just a silly side game and if u like it cool but if not no worries. I hope Blizz continues to take stabs at things like this instead of playing it overly safe all the time
My beef with this is that it's just now wow.
It was a wow retail patch, on the retail roadmap. And it's an out of client mobile friendly BR. Which rather is good or not is irrelevant to the fact that it's not wow.
I could understand if it was a major patch. But it is a very minor patch and as far as we know took nothing away from main development.
Innovation in a mmo is the right thing to do. However I feel like a battle royal mode for an mmo isn’t the target audience, that’s the case for me.
MMO fan since I was 11 and I'm 32 now... I've been saying WoW should've implemented a BR for a long time. You'd be surprised.
To make a note about you saying you learned the spells, the routes, etc and it started becoming more fun. Every decent fighting game player knows that when you just start playing (assuming the point is to play, so this doesnt include the people just slogging through for the rewards) the point isn’t to win, the point is to learn. If you just go in to win every single time, you will naturally start winning less and less, because what worked 2 days ago will stop working, and you won’t know what to do. When you try to pay attention to what’s going on, and actively try to adjust to every situation instead of going “hehe firestorm go brrrr”, you will get much better at the game and start having a lot more fun, because your options of how you can play start opening up massively.
This is NOT Day 4 of FF13 and I'm ANGRY about it lol. /s
I was just thinking the same thing
Nah, I hate FF so anything that's not about FF is good
Gotta have my daily dose of Snow's inspirational speeches.
Agreed. Glad he's branched out but I hope he reembraces WoW in the near future, maybe w. Metzen here@@MrEverisforever
@@benoitrousseau4137All HAIL King Snow!!!
I think part of the reason why folks whom don't like PvP are forcing themselves through is due to Blizzard framing it as having a PvE options (see the original announcement) video. I feel like if they had framed it as a PvP thing a lot of PvE only collectors would have put the rewards in their "it sucks I cannot get the PvP stuff but I made my peace with that a decade ago" bucket, whereases their implied "You ca do it PvE if you like" has made a lot of folks instead decide to chase them leading to the whole sunk cost fallacy thing kicking in.
I love this game mode, I suck at it but I love it.
1:10 That's me - I have no interest whatsoever in PvP so this event is not for me. I played a few games on Wednesday which reminded me of why I despise PvP so much and that's it for me with this event.
I wouldn't say though that I'm dissapointed - I didn't have any expectations to begin with. It's good for the PvP enjoyers out there so I wish them fun with this while I keep playing the parts of the game that I do enjoy.
If Blizzard truly didn't want people to just log in, run around, kill stuff and loot plunder only to let themselves be killed, they should have front loaded the rewards. Require people to play maybe 10 games to get all the cosmetic goodies. That way the people who are enjoying the game mode, can stick around and play, and the collectors can feel satisfied with their loot and then naturally leave if they decide to.
Or just win. Hit Level 40 with a 79% top1 rate. Must be 'cos the majority just gives up early and those that make it further are not trying hard enough.
I'd like to think people do stuff for the intrinsic joy of it, but lately I've noticed that MMO gamers complain when the rewards aren't good enough. Maybe due to the more social nature of the game and the chance to flex? I don't know.
they could incentivise placement or have players drop extra plunder but no in current game you are incentivized to not pvp
Of course, Preach's opinion has nothing to do with the fact he is being paid to take part in a tournament promoting this game mode
They should really make people declare adverts more clearly
its sad, every "creator" that was hyping the game is showed in the new creator royal, blizz buying off ppls opinion now
I'm generally the sort of person who avoids PvP like the plague just cause it makes me feel awful (because I'm so awful), but I've actually been having a lot of fun with this.
I wonder if they could make it so that killing a player could give you a chance to get another quest for 250 more plunder. Or a plunder multiplier that stacks by .1 for each player you kill, meaning that if you kill 10 players your plunder is doubled. Not sure how best to balance something like that though.
I suffer from anxiety, so it makes me shake when I get in confrontations with other players in PVP. I absolutely hate the feeling. But I do want those cosmetics.... definitely don't feel like this is "for everyone"
@@suronia1 THIS! So glad I'm not alone in this. (I don't play WoW) BUT I also go into panic mode when I'm 1v1 PvPing in FF14. If I do PvP I do the large group PvP where my skill and focus aren't as key to the survival of the whole group.
I've been off WoW for 9 years, since the height of Warlords of Draenor. Lost my Battlenet account sometime after and couldn't get it back, and just gave up caring. Picked up FFXIV since and have played regularly for years. Got my Battlenet account back recently and seeing Plunderstorm's announcement gave me incredible motivation to resub to WoW again. I had forgotten how much WoW felt uniquely and it was a breath of fresh air after feeling burned out on XIV. Plunderstorm is so chaotic and fun like a MOBA in part when you are able to ignore tryhards coming after you as soon as a round begins. We need more experimental modes like this to shake up the norm and try something new for the genre.
I’ve been having fun with it but I have noticed when I go on to my retail character valdrakken is deserted an I’m on a high pop realm usually valdrakken is so full of people my frame rate is terrible
after seeing a lot of gameplay for plunder storm, all I can see is untapped potential. I think this could be absolutely MASSIVE for the game, and there are bits and pieces of old systems that you could splash in and really make this almost like its own game. this reminds me of parts of islands, parts of torghast, and I think you really could flesh out this and make it an evergreen contribution to the game. I would LOVE to have more synergistic archetypes of abilities/maybe even include base class as part of this, and I think you could change up maps sort of like how islands were (each map could have unique rewards which create incentives for players to queue not just their favorite).
plunderstorm gives me the same exact "WHOA" feeling that torghast and mage tower initially did (before they ruined torghast), and I would absolutely hate to see this just be another flash in the pan when they clearly have lightning in a bottle.
problem i have with the mode is the ur match is pretty much decided on the start and where u land, if someone else lands with u and wastes ur time attacking you, then you are way behind in levels and have barley any spells or good spells. so u might aswell just die.
While I wasn't a super rager I was a little salty, not so much at having to play the mode for the rewards I wanted (super hardcore pet collector, almost 1700), I'm use to that, but rather as you said just how stupidly long the grind was before they buffed it, plus smaller things like no OCE server so terrible lag for us, plus unlike many other grinds it's time-limited so I couldn't do it as the mood struck.
"so i couldnt do it as the mood struck"
the figure of 6 weeks event duration keeps floating around (without any source bear in mind)
6 weeks = 42 days
40 renown levels
the fastes method WAS to jump in do your quest and get killed which netted you 250 plunder at a minimum (usually closer to 300)
2500 renown per level
this method took AT MOST 3 minutes per round which totals for a total of 10 matches (aka 25-30 minutes a day in 2-3 minute segments) per renown which also means doing 10 matches a day will EASILY get you all rewards, sorry but "i couldnt do it as the mood struck" doesnt apply, also all of this was calculated on the original state as you mentioned they have now buffed it and people in duo's walk away with 3000-3500 plunder (so more then a level) per round without even winning
@@vhaelen326 Wall of text defending FOMO events...
@@tekkaoz im not defending FOMO in general, just this event which has a good reason to be limited time
@@tekkaozSome WoW players really love their forced engagement. Same kind of people who thought AP and Covenants were the best thing ever.
I do not engage in the PvP unless I just KNOW I can win and someone engages me first. But I also try to collect more plunder before I die to the storm. I try to survive as long as I can without PvP and getting as much as I can and that is what makes it fun for me even though I do not like PvP or Battle Royales. This is different as I have other objectives to get me the renown for rewards. I try to make it longer each time :)
I am one that doesnt have a lot of time to really grind this out but I do enjoy parts of it. My goal is the get the quest done and as much plunder as I can before I eventually die because my reflexes are not as good as others.
Reminds me of being a lowbie in alterac,just doing objectives. Doesn't bother me at all
If Blizz wanted to tie rewards to it, they should have been rewards for Plunderstorm itself. If it's such a great thing, let it stand on its own and not bribe players to increase engagement metrics.
It's not for me, but there is a mount reward so I'm maxing renown pve style.
My only problem with it is that they put it as the major patch feature on the roadmap, and I can't play it on my main, they should have put it on its own roadmap.
This is also my main issue. Dont put it on the road map.
Theres actually a decent amount retail wise from this patch. Mainly the meta achievement. But also some class tuning and minor talent tree updates. We knew it was going to be something different because they did say anyone with a WoW subscription could participate, not just retail
Mike, you've obviously seen that Plunderlord transmog set. I infact DO have to do it
Mike, the biggest issue here is that 10.2.6 was supposed to be a retail wow patch. After two months of nothing from Blizzard, no news, no tuning, nothing, retail players were expecting something big to happen in retail. While a great addition to the wow universe, Plunderstorm has NOTHING to do with retail. It never should have been on the roadmap either.
This is true actually
I like the combat system... against the PvE mobs. I like the plundering mechanic... as long as I'm left in peace. I like the storm... because I can give myself to it when I reach the point that resources are scarce. The PvP in it, though, is causing physical harm to my body because of the stress and anxiety but Blizzard put a Pepe toy at Rank 24 so that's what I'm trying to get to. Blizzard set this mode up the way they did expressly to coerce PvE players into it to give PvP players human fodder to hunt because they'd been complaining for YEARS that there wasn't anyone to hunt in Warmode. That's WHY there's an exp bonus. That's WHY there were efforts to "entice" (read: coerce) Alliance players into Warmode during BfA.
The problem is that PvP and PvE are two diametrically opposed playstyles with a sliver thin venn diagram between them. Trying to combine the two is NEVER a good idea.
To be honest, the best thing they could do right now is revise the Renown system and front-load the rewards and let the people who want out just give themselves to the storm and go back to what they were doing before it launched.
For those who just want to farm rep there is a port behind stormguard with 4 elites, 4-6 chests and alot of pirates. Go there do your quest and die then repeat. But i encourage you to try the mode its really fan :P specially when you make the tryhards chase you all over the map :P.
I think Blizz added the WoW tie-in rewards to boost numbers so they won't care people are leaving early. It would have been interesting to see how popular this mode would have been without the cosmetics.
I agree they should not have kept this secret; it's led to disappointment for some players and not just because it's PvP. They should not have made it part of a "WoW patch" as that led people to believe it would be in game content.
I don't have a problem with them making a WoW themed BR, but it would have made more sense as a standalone product like Hearthstone, etc. They really need to make new PvP content in the game more often and more consistently so PvPers aren't starved for content and attention.
well this rewards soon or alter will be in trading post so
I see that you are enjoying this mode, Preach, and I am happy for you. If all players were like you, playing just for the fun of it and being fair, this mode could be good. But unfortunately most PVPers are assholes. In a way, it is good they got this mode - so once all the collectors are gone, they will be alone among themselves and then the same yammering like about world PVP will begin, because they cannot force others to join. To me this patch is simply a no-patch, delivering absolutely not content at all.
Had they ported this to console, and/or at least left it tf out of the retail roadmap, I would probably have played the crap out of it (for a few days). They could even a slapped a €5 price tag on it, and I'd play the crap out of it. As it is, I've been on for one Fyrakk pug since the last reset. Might do another tomorrow, since I'm a masochist and still hope that the leggo might drop and I won't even have the pleasure of using it. :P
As long as it is on the retail roadmap, with a patch number indicating that it is a content patch, alot of people do expect some content. Adding a flightstone vendor and some transmog from a separate game mode is not content.
This thing has basically killed our guild (- the oldest active guild on our server, so big sadge). Not because everyone's playing Plunderstorm, but because people were expecting content and didn't get any. There are hopes for the future, tho', as many obv has pre-ordered TWW, and will come back for that (but I have heard people having requested refunds...).
I dont mind it being a secret, but I can see an argument for that it maybe shouldnt have been on the wow roadmap as it is a mostly standalone thing
Admittedly, I wasnt crazy about the announcement when it came out, but then I spent hours playing it and I love it.
Played WoW since day one and will probably be playing it when they hammer in the last nail. Did PvP back in the day and it was fun but I am too old to do it again. I now play WoW trying to collect everything do every achievement. I see the fun in Plunderstorm and I will play it because I want the rewards but as soon as I have them I will not be back.
My complaint is that since Wednesday there are so many things suddenly broken in retail that were ok on Tuesday. There is no sign of them being fixed and to add insult to injury Blizzard are coughing up $50k for the entitled streamer community who if you look 90% of them don't play WoW seriously.
Blizzard have stuck up two fingers to the players and are stroking the ego and bank balance of a bunch of hypocrites.
Thank you for pointing out the obvioyabout keeping it secret
I got to level 40 last night. Now I can rest easy.
Love this game mode even as a person who doesn't like pvp and never done a battle royale even I have laughed so hard at a final circle bush attack I've managed to pull off. I plan to continue to play little and often and determined to improve.
They need to make more renown awards for kills rather than just pve mob kills
It's alright.
i would enjoy it if it was a pve mode with the other teams being npc controlled, i dislike pvp and wont play it
This style of game definitely isn't for me so I don't plan on playing it competitively, but I'll probably spam it in duos with a friend just to try and earn all the rewards. That being said, props to Blizz for trying this and I'm excited to see what else they can do like this. Could also do some seasonal/holiday-based things with this same system but maybe not the BR mode. Could easily see like a Fall Guys-style minigame type game in the future?
I like the leveling so the Bushcampers can’t hide and wait til the end because their lvl will be too low
I don't play WoW anymore and I don't even like Blizzard anymore.
I preface with that statement because even as a "hater" I feel confident in saying this game mode is a win for Blizzard.
Whether you like the mode or not it is creative, it's different, it's wild. That is exactly the cure to Blizzard's ailment of being risk-averse and stagnant.
Let the devs get a bit crazy and try new things. Not all of them will land and that's okay. You should much rather have them try and fail than not try anything.
Just my 2 cents.
On a different note, the strategy of hiding until the end of the round is very much ingrained in BR players from Fortnite and Apex Legends, the latter of which recently had a ranked season that rewarded people very heavily for that approach. It's also the default approach from people who are not confident in their ability and are afraid to engage in combat. All in all, it's not surprising that behaviour would emerge.
TLDR: Good on the devs for trying something different. I hope everyone who is playing has fun and regains some faith in their game.
This is a great take. I hope they do this with more game types in the future. Perfect way to take another swing at torghast and make a good rogue like
Fantastic take. And a lot of folk need to realize they dont do ".6" patches often if at all, and this was just a bonus on top of content they've already got in the works (i.e. the rest of the roadmap). This didn't take up resources that took away from something else. This is just a nice lil thing to fill the time before the next season.
Big time I completely agree. It's okay to dislike and not support Blizzard anymore but recognize Plunderstorm as a genuinely fun game mode.
Havent played wow in ages, saw this announcement, got a bit hyped. It turned out to be blizz using bored wow players to beta test their new battle royal game.... I will continue to afk in Limsa, I hope the hopium I have been sniffing for war within doesnt turn out to be copium.
When are we getting a new Preach UI?? :)
I feel the same way about this as I did about poe battle royale it's certainly not for me but there are people who are absolutely going to love this mode
This game is fun - if you don't care about the rewards. Problem is that Blizzard decided to add 3 pets, 3 mounts, 11 weapon cosmetics and 3 transmog sets and hold it hostage behind a long grind with a limited duration and forced pvp. That makes many people grumpy, because all they want is the rewards and there is little to no skill involved in participating - so why is the grind so awfully long?
It feels unneccesary, and I do believe that many people will suck it up, endure through, burn themselves out in the process to get the rewards and remember Blunderfail with great resentment.
I am sure that if there had been an initial quest for the transmog (say 10-15 matches or so), people would have felt alot less like they HAD to play this and rather played it because they wanted to.
This whole event and its reward-system feels like hard-preying on peoples FOMO. It's like Blizzard knew this would be unpopular so they added more rewards than ever seen before and smacked a limited-availability on it to really trigger peoples fear of missing out. I personally think its scummy, immoral and is tainting what could have been a cool, fun, limited event for many.
Start of by saying, I love plunderstorm. Initially I was underwhelmed by the announcement. I didn't see the need for secrecy either. But having played it, its a ton of fun either solo or with a buddy. Fun way to spend a few hours each week getting some levels, collecting and having a blast. Advice I give everyone who tries it, just try to enjoy yourself, have some fun and don't take it too seriously :)
People use pvp very broad-term. I mean, technically basketball is pvp and so is league of legends and Among Us.
But it doesn't mean they're the same game.
WoW PVP is completely different than Plunderstorm.
The best way to get renown is knowing that plunder = renown. So, just do your quests while running to eVERY pile of gold. Only open gold chests, don't even farm mobs, run away from other players, just chase the shiney. Do this and you can get between 700-1200 renown per match, and that's forcibly killing yourself after you run out of gold to snatch (usually by fighting the Pieces of Hate mob which drops tons of gold)
IF you wanna win the game? I just hide mostly. Collect stuff, avoid fights til it's the final 5~. Get skills that let you run away, then just backstab the last player left alive. Ambush helps.
I'm playing mostly for the collecting aspect, but I like playing plunderstom and I'm pretty good at it.
They should scale down leveling towards the end. Making it a soft cap. So you can level up to 10 but the gaps between levels increase so much that you at most get a 1 level difference between strong teams at the end.
Unless something has drastically changed since I nolife grinded renown 40 and freed myself from the nightmare that is the plunderstorm "patch"... There is a soft cap. Getting the first few levels takes maybe a couple of elites, a chest or two, a few mobs... Getting 8-10 takes half the game. Not once in the ~100 games where my ego took over and I actually tried to win, rather than doing the smart thing of getting my WQ done and getting out, did I make it past level 10. Not in the several wins, not in the games where I loot goblin'd and stole plunder from the PvP and got over 2k plunder. If someone makes it to the end below level 8/9, they were never going to win.
As much as i think being a hardcore collector or completionist is sorta foolish, placing rewards on a system and then *forcing* people to play in a specific way is messed up. Let people open chests and kill raptors if thats what they wish to do. Even winning gives you nothing thus far other than a feat of strength. This could have easily been just as fun with no rewards and you know it. Other than that good concept in terms of experimentation and not allowing addons.
Not something I would enjoy, but I don't play WoW anymore anyway. Still it's cool to see the team put out something entirely different, and I hope it sticks around and is improved upon or used in the development of something else. Looking forward to the tournament that's being put on.
I really only played for the renown. That being said, I did really enjoy the game and I didn't play to maximize renown. I was going for wins everygame. I did notice in my last string of games after the MMR change that I was almost always encountering players who seemingly wanted to win like myself. Made it much more enjoyable playing against those players than the players who you can tell were just there to farm plunder and avoided fighting you at all costs. I did also find the damage output to health ratio to be not great. It was far too easy even as a lvl 10 vs lvl 10 to just delete someone in half a second no matter what they did or I did.
i am one of the people in it just for the rep,i get my 500 ish then then jump in the storm do that twice,so about 10 min then do something else for an hour ,repeat
I’m fine with getting the most rewards (in terms of renown) from farming pve for 5 minutes and then getting killed :) I don’t care about winning, nobody should
I don't mind that they kept it secret. People were saying "it's probably going to be a huge disappointment", and those people were never going to be happy with anything.
I think the mode is pretty fun but for me it will get stale quickly. Definitely a good surprise though. I was honestly expecting some in-game easy world content - the kind of thing I check out once for a bit then be done with it. This has at least given me a couple solid play sessions so far.
The thing I am most happy with is that it seems like they have been cooking a lot of experimental gameplay. I am excited to see where they go with this.
i think its the vocal minorrity. You know the ones that spreasheet the fun out of games and don't know how to have fun
I haven't played WoW for ages (since the first patch of Legion), but I will say this new mode while it looks entertaining doesn't seem like something that will last long term which is a good thing they made it a limited time event. I personally think I would like it for a day or two then get bored with it. It's the kind of repetitious rinse and repeat mode that just doesn't interest me which has been the game's problem for years now. I never got into PVP because it's just the same thing over and over and over without variation, so while I like that they are trying something new, it's just not something that would pique my interest to get back into the game.
yeah for me its definitely the pvp aspect. but i probably wouldnt even play this mode if it was against npcs. its a bit disspointing this is what they wasted dev time on. but the overall reception seems to be positive so we probably will get more stuff like this. this ranks amongst pet battles and that transmog competition in uselessness.
Wonder what will happen when the Collectors have collected 🤔
i have 40 renouwn and i still play the mode for fun :P
is the crest vendor not player power
Tried it personally didn't think it was fun but I also hate BR don't think starting with nothing then jumping in and randomly getting spells, buffs, and gear or what not is at all fun. If maybe we could pick our load out then go in and level them up / unlock them knowing what we will get a head of the time I'd be more interest in it.
I do think making a pvp mod that has fixed stats and doesn't have the bloat of the main game was very smart. Reason I started dislike pvp after TBC was the vast amount of things you need to remember and track isn't fun.
problem is picking your load out goes against what BR is. It is all about landing gearing up and surviving. only difference here is instead of guns, we use spells.
imo if you get to pick your loadout it would defeat the whole point because then there is gonna be a clear meta simply because there arent that many options
@@vhaelen326 ya likely true but that is likely why I liked COD or CS as a kid but think games like Fortnite are lame.
At first i hated the idea of grindig, then i started to get better and i rly like it, Play it now for fun, i want 40 more renown and new maps
Everything is designed and balanced for pve God forbid pvpers get something new we haven't got a new bg in 6 years
I like the leveling system. Part of why PUBG is such a snooze fest is because you get good gear and just camp out.
Where as Escape from Tarkov is good at early days because you have to do things other than pvp in the game (which is putting it lightly).
Blizzard clearly noted this. And I think its good. And the game mechanics are so simple that its not a problem.
Ice cream is great but I wouldn't want it on my laptop
im a collector in wrath, so having a mount and a pet behind a retail event is kinda sad, i did enjoy the first 10 games and would like to play 1-3 games evryday, but thats not okay when there is a wrath mount tied to it...
You're not entitled to everything. Play it or don't.
@@SatansRoyalBoner im entitled to get evrything related to wrath by playing wrath, just cuz the game mode is good dont mean i should be forced to play it, set all the rewards at 10 games played and the gamemode would be waaay better.
This isn't an content that I'm going to engage with since it's not something that I enjoy. But I'm happy that it exists, it's a cool experiment and I'm it's good that they're trying things
ITS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE! didnt think i would like it, but i really do lol
1 match should be 1 renown. then those that like the game play will be the only ones left to enjoy it.
Well I never played BR before but I like PvP in WoW, so I decided to try this new mode and it was fun for some time but I never got any better and didn't won any match so its just frustrating for me. I really want the transmog but I'm not gonna farm like crazy, I'll still gonna play as long as I think it's fun and get what I can. But I think it's awesome they are trying new things.
In regards to people being upset about it being PvP, because their mogs and mounts are tied to it, that has always been the case. PvP mounts and gear (now also transmogs) were a thing for most of WoW's life. I'd argue that this mode is better, because where once you had to do serious PvP in the full scope of WoW's combat mechanics, which has a decent amount of depth, complexity and skill requirement, this doesn't. I didn't try it yet, but it's only a handful of skills you have to play around with and as I understand it you get rewards regardless of winning or not. I'd also like to point out that PvE is still required here for leveling and there is always duos if you need help.
I find it hard to hit 10 even if I'm constantly fighting (I've only done solos so far). I don't think I've been over level 8 despite having multiple wins and actively trying to level up. I think xp needs to ramp up as the game goes on.
Yeah I’ve only hit 10 once when I got in to the top 3 and was being a super tryhard
Yeah im just doing the quest that takes like 1min and then dying and repeat, quite boring but im glad its an option!
I don't play WoW anymore (Well official servers to be honest), but when I did I was a PvP player. It's always been a hard balance to make. Mixing PvE and PvP never ends well. I hate mythic+ and it's player base as much as they hate PvP and our player base. Personally my idea would make collectors hate my guts as I think all endgame paths should offer unique rewards for reaching the apex, whether it be Mythic Raids, Gladiator, or mythic + however high it goes. Even if it's just transmog and best in slot gear for the content it was build for.
Looking good, Mike. Keep up the good work man.
I dont usually like PVP much these days but im farming it for the rewards nonetheless lol. Kinda fun despite how much I get pwned.
Imagine if they could just release something without in game wow rewards tied to it. The combination of FOMO and GRIND killed any chance of me liking this event.
For me, it's just boring after a couple of rounds. The progression is incredibly slow even after the changes. 40 levels of boredom poggers. I'm so glad I have to 9-5 this to get a reward instead of actually playing the real game. Thank you blizzard for taking something that should have been fun, but making it miserable instead. I'm not upset at the game mode existing, I'm upset I have to give up my time playing retail to play plunderstorm (a mode I don't find enjoyable) to get a reward for retail that I would like to have.
Just got my first win, this game mode is AWESOME
I hate it. They are forcing me to PVP, and I dont want to PVP. Some jerk will chase me across the map to kill me. So stupid.
I do hate it. I do not enjoy PvP at all. I do not enjoy Battle Royales. But the cosmetic rewards for the base game are just so cool, I feel I am forced into it to get a set that is unobtainable elsewhere. So fml, guess to the grind I go again.
I'm not going to shit on the people that do enjoy it, you do you and I'm glad a bone was thrown to the PvP crowd, but I would have loved a pure PvE mode where I don't have to stress about gankers who happened to get their OP fireswirly in minute 1.
I generally dislike pvp modes. I've barely touched it in wow in my +15 years of playing it. But I really love the idea behind plunderstorm, it just has some issues which make it really infuriating for me. Like firewhirl being disgustingly oppressive if you don't have the right defensive spells etc, being able to run like 3 hard cc's on 1 player. Hopefully they rebalance the game a bit more.
Seeing the reaction to Plunderstorm, specifically that players are upset that the developers used time to make this content when they could have been making something else, made me ask my wife if she ever thought about that aspect of the very similar Fall Guys event that FFXIV had late last year. She said no, and I can't think of any of my friends in FFXIV who were upset that the FFXIV team made that game mode.
What something else should they be making??? This IS Something else.
It's the playerbase. So much entitlement in the wow community. "You could have made something that I liked, but you made something someone else likes, HOW DARE YOU!" is the sentiment I've seen everywhere.
tldr the ff14 one was sold as a silly side game for fun. The wow one is getting sold as a major feature. Its just presentation. If the wow team had come out and said "hey this is a silly little fun mode for a bit of a laugh, its clearly not a major patch and its not major content we got the normal content release going have fun!" then that'd be fine.
@@Dotoku14 I do agree, but with a moderation. I think we see and hear the loud minority, not the silent majority. Wishfull thinking? 🤔 I hope I'm right. 🤞😅
Spoiled-brat mentality. That's all this is. There's objectively no valid reason to be upset over this event, but of course, Blizzard can do no right, so if you aren't smashing your keyboard in rage every time a patch drops, you must be a paid shill who LOVES bobby kotick.
It's insane how a playerbase that skews so old consistently acts like children.
I have been having quite a bit of fun with it!
its a great idea. It just feels a bit dumb that the objectively nost effective way of getting rep is avoiding the fights and then dying... unsure how else you couldve designed it in a way where you need to win to get rep, but it feels off. gamemode itself is alright I guess.
Not for me, glad some like it. I just find funny that we get the classic blizz, being late to a gaming trend, hopefully this one sticks better than their other ones. Maybe in a couple more years we will get a tft mode.
As a player who has little interest in PvP, and even less interest in Battle Royal. The patch is a disappointment for me, I was hoping for some meaty content like a 2 boss raid or something. HOWEVER!!! Can't argue the game mode looks awesome for pvp enjoyers, and I like that they have tried to experiment a little with the way WoW is played. Would love something like spectator mode in Raid and Dungeons when you die if that ever happens.
it's okay. extremely overhyped so everyone is disappointed. just like you said. I couldn't give a shit how a game dev feels about their product when it's something as lazy as a BR. So I'd say it's more ignorant of the game devs to not even come close to understanding their player base after 20 years. What about world of warcraft will attract fortnite players? nothing, and the game devs should be ashamed of themselves to be so intentionally ignorant and blind to their fanbase. Blizzard can't stop farming Ls and its 100% all their fault.
Took me about 24 hours, basically 2 12 hour sessions and I hit 40. no i wasn't doing the xp meta, I was just playing. I'm torn. the game can be fun,b ut at the same timei I hate pvp. League is the only PvP I like to do. and welp there were more than a few times I almost stopped, but i'm a collector, ot a hardcore, but when I see something I like I gotta get it.
like i said. it can be fun, but it can also be a nightmare. i've only gottne first place 2 times and the second time i was lvl 7 against a level ten. i got a rough start into scavenging for 10 minutes, but luckily my maxxed out spells, and a boat item let me survive into that very last round where I could pin, poke, pin poke into an all out fireswirl.
Plunderstorm is a blast!
Preach, saying that collectors are used to grind shitty content is like saying raiders are used to what mythic raiding has become since Legion. No, we were not used to grind every shit, just like mythic (or heroic and "just raiding" before) was not about artifact, azerite grind, and mythic plus grind. The game has changed DRASTICALLY since Legion for collectors, too! By Legion I was balls deep into collecting, it was either quit or get used to the new era (JUST like with raiding). Blizz learned that if they slap a shitty pet or transmog to any crap grind they can make collectors grind till their ears bleed. Just like with mythic raiding. But while mythic raiding gets hightlight as to why it sucks balls, collectors are in this "it's fine, they are used to it" box just like you put us into. No, it's not fine.
No one is forcing you to do the content, why are collectors such crybabies? Play it or don't.
@@SatansRoyalBoner no one is forcibg you to get good education. Just don't do it if you don't want to. No one is forcing you to have a job, have an income. Just don't work if you don't want to.
You can't be this ignorant in 2024. This is sooo 2016.
Haven't played it, but it looks fun and I'd like to try it. But I haven't been subbed for about 2 years now and this isn't something that's going to make that happen (this is also considering that since shadowlands made me hard-quit the game, I have accumulated a rather large list of games to play and I won't be done with them anytime soon, so WoW is not a concern at the moment). I do think this gamemode has a lot of potential and could easily turn into something fun year-round.
I think it's quite fine tbh. I'm not into that sort of games but probably will try it anyway. The only part that makes it feel kind of a let down is that it doesn't really add anything to WoW it's a separate "fun thing" to do instead of playing Retail or SoD.
I'm having fun while we wait for s4 or next expansion lol.
PVP was enough outside of what I would like to collect in already, ping making so much more of a difference and mine being terrible. But this is worse, its battle royal. Worse again its FOMO so you can't just hit it up once or twice a week or month and eventually work towards it like I could for most PVP rewards.