Why Plunderstorm Should Stay in WoW

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  • Опубликовано: 13 апр 2024
  • By now many players of the World of Warcraft scene have experienced or heard of Blizzard’s brand new event, “Plunderstorm.” A battle royale PvP game mode that pits you against sixty different players at once, including yourself. If you’re a bit out of the loop let’s explain what a battle royale is. A battle royale is a last-man standing survival game that typically blends aspects of finding loot with exploration and PvP elements, though its not unheard of for a battle royale to be completely PvE as well. In Blizzard’s own version of this mode, players will experience a mix of both of these elements alongside a collection aspect that rewards them with cosmetic apparel.
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  • @KDE4LIFEBAYBAY
    @KDE4LIFEBAYBAY Месяц назад +49

    When will Brawler's Guild come back?

    • @Zusk0
      @Zusk0 Месяц назад +4

      I miss Brawler's guild.

  • @Charlie_Rainsorrow
    @Charlie_Rainsorrow Месяц назад +65

    lets be honest - 90% of playerbase will never come back after getting to renown 40, unless they add more rewards to grind for

    • @Karma_Chameleon
      @Karma_Chameleon Месяц назад +3

      Yep, I'd play it more if I didn't get absolutely shit on every time beccause half the time the abilities don't work due to the fact they tried making this in an MMO

    • @DPH_Psychosis
      @DPH_Psychosis Месяц назад +1

      The only reason they put cosmetics in is so the "hardcore" pvpers and streamers would have easy kills to farm. This mode is ... Something else.

    • @Arthur-yg2fu
      @Arthur-yg2fu Месяц назад +2

      i think that applies to everything in the game, tho, no matter how fun it is there will always be something less fun with better rewards to farm

    • @Mighttester
      @Mighttester Месяц назад +4

      @@Karma_Chameleon skill issue. If you can't get good at pressing 6 buttons, your probably bricking +10 keystones.

    • @Karma_Chameleon
      @Karma_Chameleon Месяц назад

      ​@@Mighttester or I'm just a casual player who plays to collect tmog, dunno why ur being a dick about it lol

  • @KomninosA7X
    @KomninosA7X Месяц назад +7

    Speaking for strictly PvE players, a lot of people say "you're not forced to play". Well, if the renown was gained from kills and not plunder, none of us would even bother, just like we don't bother chasing gladiator mounts/titles. We know we'll never get them. We understand and accept that. But having the PvE aspect of the game give you the rewards, makes the rewards seem obtainable so we feel like we can power through it. The problem is, that for a PvPer and their huge egos, needing to prove they're the best at every chance, no fun is allowed for the rest of us. It is unwise to make a supposedly "accessible" reward system, and put it in an environment that is competitive by nature. I'm fine with grinding, but I don't wanna compete or having my time wasted by others. So even though getting the rewards is doable (I got them, like so many other PvEers), and the game is actually good if you don't care about the rewards and are only there to fight, unless they introduce a PvE mode, or cut the grind in half in the PvP mode, I would never do it again.

    • @1ViivviiX1
      @1ViivviiX1 Месяц назад +1

      Funny you say that, cause they literally cut the grind in half and for the last last half of this event of Plunderstorm, it is 2X Plunder right now. Can literally get up to 2+ renown rank ups within a single match right now.

    • @KomninosA7X
      @KomninosA7X Месяц назад

      @@1ViivviiX1 Yes they did, after the criticism, and in the last 2 weeks, after most of us were already done. If the next similar thing they release STARTS with this pace, I will gladly take part in it.

    • @1ViivviiX1
      @1ViivviiX1 Месяц назад +1

      @@KomninosA7X yeah, well maybe if people didn't burn themselves out on it and make it seem like it had to be done in a week after they already were unhappy with the game mode and then some how expect that they weren't gonna hold resentment for it in the long run? It was a month long event, I understand more than anyone not having a lot of spare time, but even me who has paced myself and played a little here and a little there is only a few ranks off 40 rn. If it's too easy you can finish it all in a day or 2, what does that leave the people who actually do want to play it, to enjoy the game mode itself with the bonus of rewards, who feel that it's all given to quickly and gives less incentive to wanna continue playing. (Not me, but people who do want to genuinely play it.) All in all, the people who play the mode, do nothing but whine, but at the same time are literally playing it for dozens of hours at a time in a mode they stated they didn't like, obviously aren't going to be having a good time. But maybe a compromise, there should be other optional ways to increase renown gain yourself, or to get multipliers, or have just in general more objectives/bonus objectives during matches that people can choose to do/really any way to increase gains that doesn't automatically make it to where everyone is just zooming through an already pretty bare bones mode that doesn't take much to finish, as it is rn without choosing to do so I guess.

  • @MrAntAve
    @MrAntAve Месяц назад +6

    tbh the thrill of surviving (only surviving) is enough for me to come and play again (for one or two more games)

  • @svart_kors
    @svart_kors Месяц назад +18

    My wife and I slogged through it to level 40 and only won a single pvp encounter the entire time. I really had mixed feelings about it due to not being skilled at pvp and also being a clicker so having to ramp up my awareness of surroundings which was a bit stressful in a way. I think they should keep the mode and I also like your suggestions for a PVE mode.

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 Месяц назад +10

    I’m not a PVP’er, never have been. And for that reason it really took me awhile to actually get into Plunderstorm, primarily because I want the rewards… but if you give it a chance, it’s actually FUN. The best I’ve ever done is 5th place, but I’ve gotten good enough to hold my own against all but the sweatiest of PVP’ers. I actually enjoy it, and that surprises me. Sometimes I die early, especially if I don’t get good (or any) drops early on, but I just go back and try again. I average 500-1000 plunder a match, sometimes more. I will generally leave those who I can tell are just trying to get the quest done alone early on, so long as they leave me alone. I think Blizz will keep making new Plunderstorm maps and rewards going forward.

  • @AkiRa22084
    @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад +5

    Real life issues are preventing me from playing as much as I would want. I hope I manage to get enough renown.

  • @Fiangard
    @Fiangard Месяц назад +11

    The FOMO and knowing I wouldn't be able to complete the rep grind (+not enjoying BR style) made me pretty much not bother aside from playing a few games to try. Those few games felt like they amounted to no battle pass progression despite getting 1000+ plunder in several; getting killed right away felt like even more of a waste of time.
    My suggestion would be to keep as a permanent/seasonal game mode and make any levels over 40 Renown award some meta currency that is exchangeable for others in WoW (Honor/Conquest/Trial of Style coins/Timewarped Badge/etc). All those currencies/tokens from events in WoW should be Bind to Account too but that's another issue.

    • @delighted2849
      @delighted2849 Месяц назад

      You know people will still complain that the mode sucks. Also no it's not FOMO unless u want to also say everything seasonal in wow and anything tied to a temporary expansion is too.

    • @dododog5002
      @dododog5002 Месяц назад

      ive gotten to 40 renown twice its so managebale

  • @benfitzsimmons4137
    @benfitzsimmons4137 Месяц назад +3

    Every single zone in the game is a potential map. There are so many potential more themes for it. I haven't found it super fun but that's because I hate BR solos and none of my friends play WoW but there is literally zero downside to this existing. People just love complaining for no reason. You don't need every mount, pet, toy, etc.. And if you like collecting all of them then you're absolutely already used to playing content you don't like just to get one so either suck it up and play it to get what you want or shut up and don't play it. That one mount won't make a difference.

  • @lordloss3907
    @lordloss3907 Месяц назад +13

    Nice game mode, not for me.
    I hate that they tie it to rewards for the main game instead of keeping the 2 separate. This same feeling happens every time the tie player power to an activity that should otherwise be optional, but this doesn't even give the player the benefit of showing off their new power. Instead, they just start from square 1 with better(?) outfits.
    If they gave players a way to earn the cosmetics/mounts outside of this mode I'd be more amicable to it. Or, like you said, make a PvE only version... but Blizzard completely abandoned warfronts so who knows if they'll go for that

  • @blimby2416
    @blimby2416 Месяц назад +5

    I am so glad I dont like pirates becuase I hate battle royles. I hope this becomes a beloved game mode I never have to touch.

  • @breadpilled2587
    @breadpilled2587 Месяц назад +8

    I really dont like the game mode, have no interest in it. I tried to like it. My only issue with it existing is the FOMO aspect. I think thats kind of scummy.
    imo, plunderstorm rewards should stick to plunderstorm, not retail or classic.

    • @SirProdigle
      @SirProdigle Месяц назад

      They won't do that because they know the game mode is broken and bad enough that nobody cares outside of WoW rewards :))) it really is scummy

    • @breadpilled2587
      @breadpilled2587 Месяц назад

      @SirProdigle I don't think its bad or broken. It's a very bare bones battle Royale, but it works just fine for what it is.

    • @delighted2849
      @delighted2849 Месяц назад

      The FOMO is self induced. Nothing in the game mode rewards an advantage in the actual game. If we go by this logic, seasonal tier sets are FOMO because I don't want to do pvp. They're not

  • @jaracgos
    @jaracgos Месяц назад +3

    I played just long enough to max renown. Got good at avoiding people while targeting elites and golden chests. Rise and repeat. Teen levels each day, was done second weekend.

  • @1ViivviiX1
    @1ViivviiX1 Месяц назад +2

    (2nd comment) R.I.P. to all the people who grinded out the 40 renown in the first week or so, burning themselves on the game that they already were complaining to not wanna do, just for there to be a 2X plunder event for the second half of the month its live, making it literally twice as easy as it was prior. So glad I chose to pace myself and take my time, only playing a few hours here and there, and im only a few ranks off of 40 now myself. Totally has in increased my enjoyment of the mode and hasn't lead to me burning myself out completely on it.

  • @XxDeathsEnemyxX
    @XxDeathsEnemyxX Месяц назад +13

    I got to Renown 40 avoiding PVP and haven’t touched it since. Wanted the mount and cosmetics. I despised it.

    • @anderbloodeyes2836
      @anderbloodeyes2836 Месяц назад +3

      Welcome to the club.

    • @ReikaLady
      @ReikaLady Месяц назад +1

      Yup, I was part of the Stormwall Cult.

    • @MSinistrari
      @MSinistrari Месяц назад

      @@ReikaLady The Storm is Love. The Storm is Life.

  • @Bamahut
    @Bamahut Месяц назад +1

    They need to also make OCE servers, I hate having 150+ MS because there's no oceanic servers. This can give others with better MS a big boost.

  • @ajrussell6928
    @ajrussell6928 Месяц назад +41

    Its litterally an optional gamemode with no real ties or reprucussions for not participating. Apart from cosmetics and a mount

    • @m.b.7560
      @m.b.7560 Месяц назад +14

      cosmetics are literally the only lasting content in this game.

    • @danielboucher510
      @danielboucher510 Месяц назад +2

      wrong there are mountas pets and toys for the PvE game that are earned only from it so yues is a BS mode without those rewards I would agree with you

    • @lol24q
      @lol24q Месяц назад

      @@m.b.7560how come pve players complain about this but not the arena mounts lol

    • @assboi
      @assboi Месяц назад +1

      yeah but it's fun

    • @nesto2947
      @nesto2947 Месяц назад +4

      Seems like alot resources and man power moved away from the main game

  • @Blazieth
    @Blazieth Месяц назад +8

    I'm definitely among those people who _don't like_ PvP, but wanted the rewards. I slogged through it, hit rank 40, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm _free_ and don't have to deal with it anymore. It's not completely a skill issue. I win fights against some of the people who try to gank me, and while I've never _won_ a match, I frequently made it into the top 5.

    • @kaakrepwhatever
      @kaakrepwhatever Месяц назад +4

      When lots of people are getting the rewards and after abandoning that content say "The nightmare is finally over," Blizzard should be concerned that their most loyal players think playing the game as designed has become nightmarish.

    • @Blazieth
      @Blazieth Месяц назад +4

      @@kaakrepwhatever Fact of the matter is, they put good looking Transmog and Dragonriding mounts behind PvP content, as basically *the* only major content of the patch it was introduced in, when the only indication anyone had of what was coming was a pirate flag. PvE fans and RPers alike were looking forward to some sort of pirate-related content... and what we got was PvP. That gave pirate-themed rewards.
      The PvPers were happy, but _nobody else was._
      To say nothing of Blizzard being about 8 years late jumping on the Battle Royale wagon.

    • @kaakrepwhatever
      @kaakrepwhatever Месяц назад +3

      @@Blazieth Some of the PvPers were happy. But a lot of them were upset that this is just another sign that Blizzard is ignoring the current state of PvP.

    • @godlygamer911
      @godlygamer911 Месяц назад

      You've never won a match? It's definitely a skill issue😂

    • @godlygamer911
      @godlygamer911 Месяц назад

      ​@@kaakrepwhateverThey definitely aren't concerned, they are well aware that their players are just whiny babies😂

  • @patnoneya4098
    @patnoneya4098 Месяц назад +9

    Would players have played this at all if there were no in-game rewards for main stream WoW? I tried it for a bit and got up to rep 10 but I'm not into pirates that much as grinding for a mount I would never use just didn't do anything for me.

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад +3

      I'm liking it more and more as I'm getting better at it.

    • @The86Ripper
      @The86Ripper Месяц назад

      You are asking the real questions my friend.

    • @asmrtpop2676
      @asmrtpop2676 Месяц назад

      Nope. I only am playing it because I am a mount and pet collector. :/ I hate they game

    • @mebrandonb
      @mebrandonb Месяц назад

      I honestly didn't even look at the rewards before playing it. I hate wow pvp, but I found it so fun and just played it because I enjoyed it. It was actually the first week in forever that I didn't even open my vault, I was just enjoying myself in Plunderstorm, and ultimately when I finally did log back in to wow proper and saw the cosmetics it isn't anything I'll ever use anyway.

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

      @@asmrtpop2676 Welp, they listened to whiners and boosted rep gain.

  • @Toxik_Tobi
    @Toxik_Tobi Месяц назад +21

    I hate all the battle royale games. And I mean I HATE them. But luckily I accepted that I wont get everything that I would like to have in wow. So I just dont play it and add the stuff to the list of things I wont get. And thats it. Sure if the topic comes up I will let ppl know that I dont like this game mode but I wont go into the forums and create cry posts and such stuff. A lot of ppl seem to enjoy it and that is nice. I like that blizz is trying new stuff so lets go!
    Edit: and I would actually like if they would make it accessable with out the monthly sub. So more ppl can play it and maybe get sucked into the warcraft universe.

    • @ReikaLady
      @ReikaLady Месяц назад +3

      You were smarter than I. Did this hell grind and not sure it was worth it.

    • @bathsalts666
      @bathsalts666 Месяц назад +1

      true it should be free i dont play it but its a perfect way i could play with someone new to warcraft and get them to sub so we can play together

    • @MoonTurky
      @MoonTurky Месяц назад +3

      ​@@ReikaLady If you play a video game and you are actively not having fun, wasting your time on it is NEVER worth it.

  • @WitherDJ
    @WitherDJ Месяц назад +1

    I advice it more to be done as a new version of pirate day, instead making it a week long thing

    • @brianandersen8842
      @brianandersen8842 Месяц назад

      And keeping the renown so you could work at it in your own pace.

    • @WitherDJ
      @WitherDJ Месяц назад +1

      @@brianandersen8842 That or have any renown you've earned become a Currency unique to these types of events. Perhaps in the future Blizz is gonna do something like "Guards Week" where people will do a Town of Salem or TTT style gamemode.

    • @WitherDJ
      @WitherDJ Месяц назад +1

      Or even a gamemode like West Hunt, Having a team of players doing sabotage while another team of guards are on the lookout for them.

  • @rokir_
    @rokir_ Месяц назад

    I just wanna say I love occasionally coming to your channel and just binging your latest videos, you're one of the best wow creators and I hope You're here a long time

  • @BottledDelusion
    @BottledDelusion Месяц назад

    Since we are in arathi I’d like to see early shamanic humans and you collect elemental power to enhance your savage warrior it would make sense with the abilities we have.

  • @Godhorus
    @Godhorus Месяц назад +2

    I found it crazy that many people play this WHILE NOT ENJOYING PVP....WTF...!??
    IMHO, this mode is freaking awesome. It gives an extra free pvp mode that you can jump into at any time. The game if surprisinly balanced, and fun to play.
    The people complaining are the people not interesting in the game, but are reward collectors that apperently, dont mind to play sometihng they dont like for a reward....kinda sad.

  • @Coilung
    @Coilung Месяц назад

    I really really liked it, but I think they should make some improvements on it like a seasonal system, with new abilities and maps and some UI changes would be welcome. Also I think the mode should be easy to queue from the retail servers or to have the option to see your guild chat/retail chats from this client.

  • @sunderwire
    @sunderwire Месяц назад +1

    Its not bad, I had fun while grinding to renown 40 but don’t think I’ll be playing it anymore

  • @Lamsan02
    @Lamsan02 Месяц назад +7

    At this point, I lost my hope for finding a video of Plunderstorm that doesn't use half of the video to explain the basics in a Wiki style. "Plunderstorm is a battle royale mode. You attack with R and move with WASD. The goal is to collect plunder". Thanks, but I think I know how to press keys, and how the game works was in the very article from Blizzard already.
    No problem with Hiru lol, but I keep seeing the same videos with the same titles everywhere on RUclips: "Is Plunderstorm good?" "How to become good at Plunderstorm" "Fastest way to renown 40", "What should Plunderstorm change" etc, and then 90% of the video is just a tutorial explaining how to attack a mob... I should have tried making a video myself, but I think it's pretty late now and everyone has 40 already.

  • @ThomasdWell
    @ThomasdWell Месяц назад

    I liked it, not a pvper myself and I've never played a BR before. For the most part I had fun, part of that was because every match was on even ground and re-queuing was quick. I did find it more enjoyable with a friend but playing with strangers wasn't as bad as I thought, I will say there needs to be a button that allows either player to choose to pilot the bird, didn't seem to matter if I was leader or not only got to steer the bird twice. I'd love to do it again on different maps, Arathi was a good start, lots of open spaces and hill to hide, I think I averaged about lvl 7-8 before I died. Never won a match but the fact I was always progressing was a HUGE motivation. One of the things I couldn't help but feel, was the feeling of running around killing NPC to gather abilities was like playing a match of Warcraft III which got me wondering if this was what Warfronts could have been.
    I agree Blizzard made a blunder by only allowing WoW subscriptions to play, if they made it F2P that could lead to people trying out WoW proper.
    I think it is funny that the last year of Brawler's Guild was when I tried to dip my toe into only to decided I waited too long and would try again next season. Blizzard has a bad habit of ending content for the FOMO high, which for a game nearly 20 years old and still subscription based, one would think that is a bad policy to follow. Plunderstorm would be perfect for seasons like Comp Stomp and if it had rotating themes even better.

  • @geekishgir
    @geekishgir Месяц назад +1

    Nope. Got to 40 and never again. I actually haven't even played normal wow recently because I have such PTSD from that damn event. Got to 40 and not once did I ever kill another player. I got there by hiding, finishing quests, and heading into the storm. I SUCK at pvp, and I've never played a melee character because I suck at it. This was my worst nightmare and sheer hell. Bullies griefers and just plain assholes were everywhere.

  • @asmrtpop2676
    @asmrtpop2676 Месяц назад +2

    shout out to whoever dropped acid w me during plunderstorm last night lmao

  • @Nozoks
    @Nozoks Месяц назад

    On my way to level 40 i won about 15-17 games. I wont play it again anytime soon. But i see where the mode could work and also what absolutly needs fixing. Cause even winning alot of times it didnt feel always good.

  • @nesto2947
    @nesto2947 Месяц назад +3

    Im still forced to download big ass patches and updates even if I don't play the game mode

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад +2

      It's reused assets, not much of a patch size.

    • @TheSeventhOutlaw
      @TheSeventhOutlaw Месяц назад +1

      @@AkiRa22084 Tell that to people with capped net lol

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

      @@TheSeventhOutlaw That still exists in 2024? I don't care about such dumbos. Git gud.

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

      @@TheSeventhOutlaw That still exists in 2024? Git gud and get better internet.

    • @AkiRa22084
      @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

      Why are comments vanishing and reappearing?

  • @TammyTwilightRose
    @TammyTwilightRose Месяц назад +1

    I personally love plunderstorm and am glad they are trying new things to add to the game, but I also understand players hatred for it. I do hope we get more fun and interesting modes like this in the future

  • @Deathwhisper2
    @Deathwhisper2 Месяц назад

    Honestly. If the pvp in wow had been similar, i.e. classes having like 5 buttons and not needing to fram gear I would have participated in it more.

  • @deployed246
    @deployed246 Месяц назад

    Honestly, as someone that normally hates PvP content, I've loved this event and the main wish I have is for a ranking system so the "try hards" and "gitgud scrubs" don't get put together quite as much, but that would only really be worthwhile in a permanent version of the event, which I think would be very barren of players after a year or two.

  • @1ViivviiX1
    @1ViivviiX1 Месяц назад +2

    I've always played a bit of everything in WoW, PvP and PvE, as that's what makes WoW great, its one game that no matter what there is something to do if you choose to find something to use your time on... But IMO...
    It is optional, and if you want to be mad at the fact that it has rewards that you wouldn't get otherwise unless you play it, then swallow that pill. It's the same for people who can't play or don't want to play whatever game modes/content that you might prefer as a PvE'r that offer rewards a PvP'r would never get.
    I will personally never feel bad for someone who whines and complains about something they CHOOSE to put themselves through.
    And funny enough, Plunderstorm isn't really even my cup of tea cause I have never even played a Battle Royale prior to it, but I would definitely say it should be its own little seperate mode with some adjustments to make it a bit more personal to each player. Other than that, I'd 100% say, it's fun for what it is.

  • @WhyOhWhyPhi
    @WhyOhWhyPhi Месяц назад

    I spent the last week hunkering down and just grinding to max renown. Around renown 10 I found a spot on the map I liked, and aimed for it every time. 80% of the time I was the only one there, and it made completing the daily objective less stressful. That was the ONLY way I found I could enjoy this. I don't PVP, I'm not good at it, I'm a dirty rotten clicker, and I play WoW for collecting and achievements (and the rewards in this were too good to pass up for us collectors). The mode does have potential, and I can see why PVP people love it so much, but as it stands it wasn't for me, and it felt more like ChoreCraft than anything fun. Even with my favorite spot I would find myself saying "I'm only level 1 leave me alone!" more times than I would have liked as I get chased across the freaking map.

  • @icEE2603
    @icEE2603 Месяц назад +1

    battle royal without shooting feels weird

  • @Lothar-Wolfsbane
    @Lothar-Wolfsbane Месяц назад

    I don't like this mode, but the fact it has a transmog set is the only thing having me grind it. I like your idea to make it seasonal. I personal would like them to do a plants vs zombie rehash with the same hearth stone concept (Seasonal revamps knight of the ebon blade ect.)

  • @Icewolf2oo3
    @Icewolf2oo3 Месяц назад +10

    It can stay as long as no rewards for WoW itself is tied to it. If it can't stand on its own, then it should die.

  • @sapandcap8031
    @sapandcap8031 Месяц назад +7

    If there was less incentive to murder people before they got their stupid daily out of the way I wouldn't mind as much, but trying to pick up two items and having sweats on my spine from minute 2 just sucks to play.

    • @roflixo
      @roflixo Месяц назад +2

      boo hoo you cant pve in pvp game mode

    • @BARRYCARRY
      @BARRYCARRY Месяц назад

      It’s a battle royale mate 😂 you just suck

  • @AkiRa22084
    @AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

    Hiruma, why are comments vanishing and reappearing randomly?

  • @4idenn
    @4idenn 17 дней назад

    Bring it back with Brawler's Guild, same rewards for both events, Plunder for the PVPers and Brawler's for the PVEers - everyone's happy, win-win

  • @justinhammer3196
    @justinhammer3196 Месяц назад +1

    It's a game mode having pretty much nothing to do with the game it is in that you need to dump hours into.

  • @SleepySloth2705
    @SleepySloth2705 Месяц назад

    If they were to add more rewards past renown 40 I'd easily come back

  • @CErra310
    @CErra310 Месяц назад

    I don't think that Blizzard needs to change Plunderstorm in any way, shape or form, because if Plunderstorm didn't go away, and the cosmetics didn't become unobtainable, this in itself would be the solution.
    You have people like me who forced themselves through to Renown 40 because they wanted the cosmetics before they became unobtainable. If the rewards never became unobtainable, say, if Plunder was a currency you could spend with NPCs instead of a renown track that would be extended further and further, then us PvE players could progress towards the Plunderstorm cosmetics at a snail's pace, while the mode had relatively low impact on our normal gaming habits, and we would still be population filling the mode for the PvP crowd that actually enjoys the mode.

  •  Месяц назад +2

    Was this a sponsored video? It felt like it. The game mode is full of problems but you didn't mention any of them.
    -FOMO, which I guess was the point of the video
    -WOW rewards from the game mode, people want rewards for WOW... in WOW.
    -No bad luck protection against ADHD people spazzing at lvl 1 and not allowing you to finish your quest
    -big imbalance in the spells you can get
    bunch of others, the forums were on fire for the duration of the event...
    I thing the game mode is fine, but they knew people won't be playing it without giving WOW rewards. I'm fine with it staying around for people to enjoy, but don't make me grind 40 renown points in a game mode I don't like just because I'll get tendies, 3 transmog sets, 3 mounts, 11 weapons transmogs and some pets + a piece of normal gear for any of my alts in WoW. Grow the mode and give rewards for the mode and keep this thing and wow separated.
    Glory to the stormwall!

  • @despawn7663
    @despawn7663 Месяц назад +1

    Ok not a fan of the random "graphics" floating in the background. :) But they REALLY Need to tell us WHEN its going to end. So i can plan out how much I will have to farm.

    • @ArklusDryxal
      @ArklusDryxal Месяц назад +1

      We can pretty safely assume that it will end with the next patch, which is likely going to be in roughly two months. Hopefully useful enough until they give an actual date :(

    • @despawn7663
      @despawn7663 Месяц назад +1

      @@ArklusDryxal my assumption as well it’s just tough to speculate. 10.2.7 for the most part, confirmed it. Also safe to assume they’re probably gonna come out with Plunder weekends.

  • @Afcoen
    @Afcoen Месяц назад +1

    I think lowering the renown level might be good

  • @teimursobczak9557
    @teimursobczak9557 Месяц назад +4

    it's possible to que as a trio now as well

  • @CafeLobo
    @CafeLobo Месяц назад

    The thing is if i wanted to play a BR I would just go download and grind out Fortnite, Apex, Warzone or literally any other BR out right now. I play WoW and other theme park mmos specifically because I'm not interested in the BR style of gameplay. I like fighting games and PvP in MMOs but I not the biggest fan of BRs, so getting this mode instead of an actual arena, PvP mode or PvE content was very disappointing.

  • @GorgonAlice
    @GorgonAlice Месяц назад +8

    The Old Gods theme would be great, adding the early clash between the Elemental Lord's and the Old Gods and give players the ability to discover more of the Black Empire. Developers could reintroduce the skills from the Corrupted System in BFA.

  • @TheKobasen
    @TheKobasen Месяц назад

    Maybe adds casual and ranked games with elo rating.
    PvP hardcore could enter ranked games with better rewards and PvE player can just stay in casual.

  • @BackdoorYaHomie
    @BackdoorYaHomie Месяц назад

    everyone has mixed feelings between renown level 1-5,
    you know if the game is for you or not by the time you hit renown level 15
    ive personally found that as i progress my skills in plunderstorm i started to enjoy it more and more. and that continued past renown lv40, so i hope they bring it back

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus Месяц назад +1

    Make it a battleground, that you can play your existing characters in. They can still keep the battleground "levels" and how it works via the vehicle mechanic.

  • @BARRYCARRY
    @BARRYCARRY Месяц назад +1

    Can’t understand the hate for this . This game is mega fun and the most fun pvp Experiance in wow right now . I can only expect the people who hate this game mode have never had more than 3 kills in one match before and it shows

  • @noztk
    @noztk Месяц назад +1

    Plunderstorm is only played that much due to FOMO.
    without the rewards most people wouldnt care.
    But since they added rewards for WoW in it they can pretend this mode was a success

  • @AnotherCrazyClown
    @AnotherCrazyClown Месяц назад

    I do pvp and i don't think Plunderstorm needs ranked rating, it is already very casual friendly, let it stay that way

  • @1un4cy
    @1un4cy Месяц назад +10

    The rep grind gave it the torghast treatment. People are only in there for the rewards and so they hate grinding it.

    • @Mighttester
      @Mighttester Месяц назад +2

      Comparing something you need to make your character powerful versus something that makes your character look pretty is silly.

    • @CErra310
      @CErra310 Месяц назад +2

      @@Mighttester that's true. the thing that makes your character more powerful becomes pointless when the next expansion comes out and raises the level and gear score gap while the thing that makes your character look pretty doesn't have an expiry date, so the latter is more valuable.

    • @random135246
      @random135246 Месяц назад

      false lol

    • @Mighttester
      @Mighttester Месяц назад +1

      @@CErra310 I understand your argument, and have joked that looking cool is the true endgame of any MMO, but I played as much plunderstorm as I liked. I farm mounts, for "prestige" but these plunderstorm rewards won't be prestigious even if wow lives another 20 years. I did however care about performing well in the game when thorghast was a thing.

  • @reddobr
    @reddobr Месяц назад

    imo Plunderstorm is not for me, but at the same time I feel that cosmetic rewards can and should come from anything. I don't complain about the PVP Rating transmogs, and likewise I won't complain about Plunderstorm transmogs. If people want it, they do it - this is exactly the kind of content WoW needs, and also what Final Fantasy excels at.
    For a long time now, Blizzard has been unable to accept that some people won't like the content they're adding and might prefer to skip on it, so they just attach Character Power to it and have everyone be forced to do the content if they want to remain viable. That is not good. Plunderstorm being optional and a new thing is both great.
    I don't really trust blizzard anymore, but Plunderstorm was certainly a good thing they've done, and hopefully they learn from it and keep doing it right in the future (making things optional!). If we had to go to Plunderstorm to farm "Ahoy Power" to unlock our "Ahoy Hook" traits that give us 0.5% power per level, it'd be disgusting. But as long as it's just cosmetics, people who like it do it, everyone else can just stick to their own thing. We can only hope this is the path blizzard is taking for WWI.

  • @jessemorgan2009
    @jessemorgan2009 Месяц назад +1

    It’s OK. Stopped playing before even hitting rank 10. Just don’t like death match. Would much prefer to see objective team based pvp.

  • @joeypurp8179
    @joeypurp8179 Месяц назад +1

    my condolences for the way that 1v1 at the end of the video went, brother. so close and yet so far from that coveted #1 victory

  • @Poldx
    @Poldx Месяц назад +3

    I just don't get, why they didn't make it f2p and even give players that don't have an active sub to test it and maybe come back to the game...
    If they want people to test it (basically, in the first few days, we were paying beta testers for them again because they put a crapload of FOMO items in this mode which people don't want to miss out on).
    Don't get me wrong, I think Plunderstorm is not bad. I played until 40 with a friend and we had quite some fun tbh.
    But I think Blizzard should make such gamemodes f2p and permanent.
    People should play them because they are fun, and not feel being "forced" to do them because of the time limited reward. (yeah.. looking at you,, MoP Remix...).

  • @Nokomak
    @Nokomak Месяц назад

    When will people learn. Fomo is only when you have to pay for it. Whether you play or not is a choice. Fomo is when you're baited to pay for an exclusive item, now!

  • @HawkknightXC88
    @HawkknightXC88 Месяц назад +1

    I want to see Plunderstorm in Stranglethorn vale if blizzard ever does a full HD remake of the zone.

  • @user-do8ch5zk6x
    @user-do8ch5zk6x 13 дней назад

    Closer to the end of Plunderstorm I saw statistics from blizzard that around 500k games have been played across all of their realms, which is abysmally low given 3-4 million player base. And even those who played it, most of them did it gor transmog. Seems to me like a wastes opportunity to exploit pirate theme, ending up giving a battle royale game, which is psychopathic in nature and enjoyed by a tiny margin of players.

  • @Anuthal
    @Anuthal Месяц назад +4

    Never liked Battle Royal games but I have to admit, Plunderstorm has done nothing to change my opinion.
    Played it for some time, hated every second of it.
    But if it suites you, go for it.

  • @MeisterSegarra
    @MeisterSegarra Месяц назад +3

    I don’t know if what I’m gonna say it’s stupid but they should have used this opportunity to start/use/test a new engine. Basically it’s the same game with a very limited map and assets so they would have a controlled environment to test things out to eventually in the far future do the overhaul people have been asking for.

  • @Marbo-Marbo
    @Marbo-Marbo Месяц назад

    It's actually a great mode, but it's not a "grind 100 rounds of the same content"-great mode

  • @joch3085
    @joch3085 Месяц назад +4

    Keep it but offer mostly PvP rewards. "But you dont have to play it" Mounts + transmog + pets + tender + titles.. yes i do

  • @torsten89
    @torsten89 Месяц назад +4

    Take the retail/classic wow cosmetics out of it. Let it stand alone as its own game type.
    For me, I didn't enjoy it. But I grinded to 40 for the mog/mounts, haven't played since.
    I don't care if it exists. But let it be its own thing detached from retail/classic wow in terms of it's rewards.

  • @josejuanandrade4439
    @josejuanandrade4439 Месяц назад +10

    Blunderstorm is *ASS*
    Besides the fact that is not realy part of the game, but it forces you to do it if you want the cosmetics FOR THE GAME, it has a shit ton of issues. One of them, is the fact that, unlike in most battleroyales, your made up character levels up during the game, so, you can't just hide and play smart... if you don't go out there and kill other players, and you find yourself in the end, alone with anothe player, you'll be lower level and it will be impossible for you to win... So turning the game in a waste of time if you try to do something like that..
    Most people just do their world quest and kill themselves... that'll tell you everything you need to know.

    • @wizzwand3189
      @wizzwand3189 Месяц назад +3

      The leveling system is exactly why its good it forces players to move that results in more encounters and that means faster games

    • @valenkierkegaarde3824
      @valenkierkegaarde3824 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah I've seen some people telling me to kill them because they already did quests or reached their desired loot, and it wasn't a few, it was more than I thought.

  • @Caradapa
    @Caradapa Месяц назад +1

    I realy didnt grind
    Just play for fun some times every week and have every reward
    It was time to get everything
    People Just get FOMO for nothing

  • @petterituovinem8412
    @petterituovinem8412 Месяц назад

    it should stay in WoW just because I want to farm the renown 40 rewards and I didn't have time to do it.

  • @Darkuwa
    @Darkuwa Месяц назад +5

    As a PvE player I just wish there was like half the players in a match or a 2x bigger map

  • @xdsagecat3920
    @xdsagecat3920 Месяц назад

    Daily vids now? Nice

  • @KindaJewish
    @KindaJewish Месяц назад

    100% of those cosmetics will be found in the trading post later.

    • @TheSeventhOutlaw
      @TheSeventhOutlaw Месяц назад

      Some will but as recolors, there's already been datamined captain coats with different colors for the trading post.

  • @valenkierkegaarde3824
    @valenkierkegaarde3824 Месяц назад

    I'm a pvp player and I dislike this mode a lot, clunky skills, latency issues modifying hitboxes, small map for 60 players, and so far as I'd like to remember.
    It took me 3h 30 approx to reach lvl 40 rep with x2 and even if they place more rewards it wouldn't be enough to make me go back.
    The map and skill designs, playability overall feels rushed and incomplete and paying a sub to be beta tester, it's not a good deal.

  • @Hourani95
    @Hourani95 Месяц назад +1

    how much did blizzard pay you to post this?

  • @KenruSunari
    @KenruSunari Месяц назад

    Check is in the mail.

  • @timsuu8991
    @timsuu8991 Месяц назад

    TLDR - to fix the pvp event make it pve instead

  • @Subject_Keter
    @Subject_Keter Месяц назад

    It like trying to get non moba fans into mobas, you cant force them to like it especially if they tryantarus rekted.

  • @janeokeson-harlow4125
    @janeokeson-harlow4125 Месяц назад

    And now you can do Three people - so yeah, trioes, nope. hehe

  • @gilneanhuntress9436
    @gilneanhuntress9436 Месяц назад +2

    As a PvEer who hated Plunderstorm with every fibre of my being, I wish Blizzard would make it that the rewards were Plunderstorm only or locked behind active pvp like the season mounts in WoW. Not everything has to cater to everyone, and this catered to PvEers just enough to get us to play something unenjoyable for the rewards. Let us look at the event, say "hard pass" and move on.

  • @ArthurDraco
    @ArthurDraco Месяц назад

    Plunderstorm without PvP is just Island Expeditions with extra steps. Also, Blizzard isn't just making a Battle Royal gamemode, they're copying Fortnite, like everyone else.

  • @asmrtpop2676
    @asmrtpop2676 Месяц назад +3

    tbh this sounds like you sold out cuz it’s weird af. you know this game is trash and also you don’t have to teach us what plunderstorm is it has been out for weeks lmao. who is holding a gun to your head to make this propaganda? 😂

  • @Scuuurbs
    @Scuuurbs Месяц назад +4

    Disagree. The stats showing how many people threw themselves into the storm is a huge indicator of just how unpopular the game mode was.
    I like the idea of a WoW-adjacent game mode that experiments with the formula and offers unique experiences, but battle royales can gtfo.

  • @towstySlim
    @towstySlim Месяц назад

    Done renown, restore settings, forgot about that buggy shtstorm 😂😂😂

  • @Rolo1507
    @Rolo1507 Месяц назад +1

    The reason I dislike this gamemode is that feels nothing like the battle royale that came before also the fact the battle royale isn’t free you need subscription with it. When it comes to skill I am don’t believe I am lacking in that department as I have won about 8 games. 6 of them being solo. And everytime I won it felt the other players couldn’t do anything against me with a mana barrier, slicing winds, and frontal stun. If I had that it felt like a guaranteed win which shows the items make the game mode and not fully skill of the player.
    This mode needs to never come back and rewards for WoW need to stay in WoW. I am rather curious on how many people are actually going to play this if there are no rewards in WoW

  • @AnotherCrazyClown
    @AnotherCrazyClown Месяц назад

    Nah, let it stay as pvp because it's not even that complicated and people complaining are just bad, re queue and try using the brain for once instead head smashing

  • @TheSeventhOutlaw
    @TheSeventhOutlaw Месяц назад

    Puck flunderstorm.

  • @BANTHAxFODDER
    @BANTHAxFODDER Месяц назад

    Really sat down this weekend to grind out the pass. Managed to get it done. I really started learning the ins and out, was getting 1500 to 2k plunder a game and really enjoyed it for what it was. Having this tweaked in the future on a different map would be great imo

  • @TheGraveyarder
    @TheGraveyarder Месяц назад

    they shouldve went with the fallguys route
    while youre still competing with other players, its not really pvp and the enemy is the obstacle course

  • @alexandrialilith164
    @alexandrialilith164 Месяц назад +4

    my issues were the assholes that chase you specifically for the entire time even when it doesnt give them anything to gain and they will even pass chests and elites just to kill you specifically when theres 50 other people to kill
    as well as when i land on an elite and before i am even able to move someone lands on me and steals my power and just kills me right there
    the people that chase you even when theres nothing to gain are the people i call "try hards" and the reason i hated the game mode as well as my dislike for battle royales as a whole

  • @DeViOuSdB1
    @DeViOuSdB1 Месяц назад

    It can stay, but no more tying real game items to it. That game mode sucks.

  • @davykuro
    @davykuro Месяц назад +3

    For me the limited time is a good idea :
    1/ Motivate and force player to play the mode even if some of them don't like PvP
    2/ analyze the play time and feedback
    I think for the battle mode they should stay in limited version like the stylish event.
    I like your Idea of season with anoter theme maybe another map from the game.

  • @Cjelex
    @Cjelex Месяц назад +1

    I really like plunderstorm but I think it should be something that comes and goes like once a year. Keep it feeling fresh, each time it comes back it could have no rewards or new abilities, keep it from getting stale

  • @studiosraufncingr6965
    @studiosraufncingr6965 Месяц назад

    day 36 of asking Hirumaredx why he doesnt stream WoW on youtube anymore

  • @Snowflake-hg1tn
    @Snowflake-hg1tn Месяц назад

    Couldnt agree more

  • @Nokomak
    @Nokomak Месяц назад +1

    You can talk skill issues all you want. But my server is EU and I play from southeast Asia with a crappy internet connection that I even have to use WiFi for. Not a problem as I just quest and adventure. Mostly.
    But I've wanted a thing like the plunderlord set and people can literally /sit in my fire tornado and not take a single hit of damage. In 60 games I got 5 kills. There is no fighting for me, only running.