I will say Octavio's prototype design is quite different to be honest I like both designs but I think the Final design fits more with the opera themed mobster lion than the prototype though I feel the more speedy villain approach fits more with the prototype
My theory is that originally Octavio hit Sly when the boss battle started. But they switched it to Bentley to give Murray a better motive. After all, Murray blamed himself for Bentley’s legs because he didn’t act fast enough. This time he realized that Bentley would be in more danger if he didn’t act at all.
The original prototype script probably had Sly attacking Octavio head-on, possibly to defend Bentley, or possibly just because he thought he could take him. During the fireworks demolition mission when Octavio kidnaps Bentley, Sly is pretty confident he could beat Octavio, it's only later on when Bentley is attacked that Sly realizes he would need help to beat him. But like the other guy said, Octavio attacking Bentley instead gives a better motivation.
His prototype design re-appeared in the beginning of Thieves in Time. He look so much better in the final version, it’s more fitting with the whole mafia formula.
Yep, he lookes like the mafia made him to what he is, but the final Version showed him always very arrogant & pridefull, what sells him as mafia Villian/Boss a WHOLE LOT better.
It's nice to know that his father's friends are still around to tell him old stories. And I like that they became such good friends were to a point Sly's father told swingy about the vault.
This is some pretty cool stuff, seeing the differences in design, coloration and the amount of things animated. I always loved these sequences in the sly games. While I do like the animations in sly 4, the old comic book esthetic just fits better. After all, sly was inspired by comics. You can see that influence in the art style and music.
It's the biggest I've ever met in a fantasy animation from the first game. I do like the fourth one more mostly because I felt like I was watching a comic turn to a show.
So interesting!! I never even CONSIDERED Sly fighting Octavio! Murray was way better in taking the finale of episode 1. Sly is alright but it was better for Murray to step in and defend Bentley! And Octavio's design was way better in the final product... Seriously the guy before just looked pathetic. Like it's just a poor schmuck down on luck being badly misguided. The actual result was a FEARED mafioso. Like a REAL mobster. That's a Cooper gang antagonist. Someone you want to despise. Make a pleasure to screw things up for them.
They could have already been there by the time Sly arrived, and its likely baggage that they just aren't wishing to put on Sly as they could have had a much worse reason for being there than just someone's parents being murdered.
@@cursedhawkins1305 we see that Bently has a picture of a female turtle in the van (sly 2 Bently gets them out of jail) It probably ended on good terms
Just curious, when it says final build, does that mean retail version? Because I noticed that the cutscene for the Episode 3 intro in the final build was different than the retail version.
Yeah, it's the retail version. They actually changed it in the HD collection, for some reason! Maybe I should do a comparison of all the changes, what they did to that compared to the original PS2 release. :D
So Bentley and Penelope chat room on the left was a prototype 9:47. Because a lot of sly Cooper 3 cut scenes on youtube show Bentley and Penelope chat room scene which seem to be the prototype
Funny that Sly was the one who was supposed to be knocked out by Octavio. Would've love to see that cutscene! 😛 Plus in the Ps3 version of Flight of fancy. The prototype cutscenes were showed and not the final product!
OH MY GOD!! MY CHILDHOOD MEMORIES WEREN'T WRONG!!! I DID PLAY THE PROTOTYPE!!! HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER ALLLL OF THE PROTOTYPE stuff!! Context: when i got older, i swore when i played this game, things looked alittle different. I brushed it off as just false memories. I didn't bother looking anything up related to it. This got recommended to me today, I AM SO HAPPY i was right!!
Man i really like the beta version of Octavio i guess sly was the first to get a taste of Octavio's speed and power in the beta version thank you @CooperCurse
Ei tota prototyypin Octaviota voi ottaa tosissaan 🤣🤣🤣 ja kiinnostas tietää mitä Slylle tapahtu kun se oli tossa loukkaantuneena Octavio bossfightin jälkeen Bentleyn sijasta 🤔
@@CooperCurse About two years late to this, but the chat room is in the NTSC version of Sly 3 on PS2. This seems to be a PAL change that was reverted when The Sly Collection rolled around.
@@CooperCurse Are you sure? Because I just played this on my PS2 that still works, and the typing scene is there for me. Was there multiple releases? Because the scene in the prototype is in my game on PS2. I don't own the trilogy game.
Interesting how in the prototype the cutscene after the Octavio battle shows Sky injured instead of Bentley. Were their roles originally reversed in that fight? Was Octavio originally supposed to knock out sly and was Bentley supposed to pump the tar during the fight?
I've always thought that Sly 2 band of thieves should be called Sly 2 honor among thieves because it's a lot about honor and Sly 3 honor among thieves should be called Sly 3 band of thieves because it's all about getting together a bunch of thieves together
Octavio was so much more of a threat it’s like two different characters looking at the proto and final.
I will say Octavio's prototype design is quite different to be honest I like both designs but I think the Final design fits more with the opera themed mobster lion than the prototype though I feel the more speedy villain approach fits more with the prototype
He does look more threatening in the final version.
@@michaelbrowne3088 I agree, he seems like a joke through the cutscenes of the original design. His final design is certainly more intimidating.
I wonder what happened to Sly in the prototype while in the original it was Bentley who got hurt before the Octavo boss battle.
My theory is that originally Octavio hit Sly when the boss battle started. But they switched it to Bentley to give Murray a better motive. After all, Murray blamed himself for Bentley’s legs because he didn’t act fast enough. This time he realized that Bentley would be in more danger if he didn’t act at all.
@@michaelbrowne3088 Thank you! That makes sense.
@@michaelbrowne3088 Intelligent!
The original prototype script probably had Sly attacking Octavio head-on, possibly to defend Bentley, or possibly just because he thought he could take him. During the fireworks demolition mission when Octavio kidnaps Bentley, Sly is pretty confident he could beat Octavio, it's only later on when Bentley is attacked that Sly realizes he would need help to beat him. But like the other guy said, Octavio attacking Bentley instead gives a better motivation.
"Degobah Sounds (Jungle Shit)" is just the type of stuff I like to see in early versions and/or concept art of games xD
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“And you’re ‘The TF’!”
~Chariii5
Prototype Don Octavio doesnt look evil, just old and confused
Which was probably why they had to redesign his physical appearance in the final version.
His prototype design re-appeared in the beginning of Thieves in Time.
He look so much better in the final version, it’s more fitting with the whole mafia formula.
Yep, he lookes like the mafia made him to what he is, but the final Version showed him always very arrogant & pridefull, what sells him as mafia Villian/Boss a WHOLE LOT better.
It's nice to know that his father's friends are still around to tell him old stories. And I like that they became such good friends were to a point Sly's father told swingy about the vault.
Glad they changed Octavio's look
He's iconic
6:57 the jungle shit -incident (2005)
This is some pretty cool stuff, seeing the differences in design, coloration and the amount of things animated. I always loved these sequences in the sly games. While I do like the animations in sly 4, the old comic book esthetic just fits better. After all, sly was inspired by comics. You can see that influence in the art style and music.
It's the biggest I've ever met in a fantasy animation from the first game. I do like the fourth one more mostly because I felt like I was watching a comic turn to a show.
My god, Octavios prototype design makes him look like a Sgringly noodle
So interesting!! I never even CONSIDERED Sly fighting Octavio! Murray was way better in taking the finale of episode 1. Sly is alright but it was better for Murray to step in and defend Bentley! And Octavio's design was way better in the final product...
Seriously the guy before just looked pathetic. Like it's just a poor schmuck down on luck being badly misguided. The actual result was a FEARED mafioso. Like a REAL mobster. That's a Cooper gang antagonist. Someone you want to despise. Make a pleasure to screw things up for them.
Is it wrong that I like Prototype Bentley’s outfit more? Makes him seem more like Sly 2 & 4 with his brown gear instead of blue
I wouldn’t have even noticed that until you pointed it out. Does give a more nostalgic look
I personally like both!
For me i like the blue more cuz green and blue just fit together.
Smiled from ear to ear the entire video. Thanks pal!
Octavio was so different
Bring back sly cooper dude... We need sly cooper 5 really hard tho
are we ever gonna find out how bently and murry got sent to an orphanage
They could have already been there by the time Sly arrived, and its likely baggage that they just aren't wishing to put on Sly as they could have had a much worse reason for being there than just someone's parents being murdered.
@@cursedhawkins1305 we see that Bently has a picture of a female turtle in the van (sly 2 Bently gets them out of jail)
It probably ended on good terms
Only we had that backstory For Bentley, when he was a baby he escaped from him House by accident and ended in the orphanage
Just curious, when it says final build, does that mean retail version? Because I noticed that the cutscene for the Episode 3 intro in the final build was different than the retail version.
Yeah, it's the retail version. They actually changed it in the HD collection, for some reason! Maybe I should do a comparison of all the changes, what they did to that compared to the original PS2 release. :D
@@CooperCurse You should if they did there own small nudges to the originals cutscenes. Feels like a needless alteration to the original.
So Bentley and Penelope chat room on the left was a prototype 9:47. Because a lot of sly Cooper 3 cut scenes on youtube show Bentley and Penelope chat room scene which seem to be the prototype
The final version is SO much better than the prototype one! I don't think I would've been able to take that one too seriously!
Funny that Sly was the one who was supposed to be knocked out by Octavio. Would've love to see that cutscene! 😛
Plus in the Ps3 version of Flight of fancy. The prototype cutscenes were showed and not the final product!
OH MY GOD!! MY CHILDHOOD MEMORIES WEREN'T WRONG!!! I DID PLAY THE PROTOTYPE!!! HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER ALLLL OF THE PROTOTYPE stuff!!
Context: when i got older, i swore when i played this game, things looked alittle different. I brushed it off as just false memories. I didn't bother looking anything up related to it. This got recommended to me today, I AM SO HAPPY i was right!!
How did you play the prototype?
Man i really like the beta version of Octavio i guess sly was the first to get a taste of Octavio's speed and power in the beta version thank you @CooperCurse
It's kinda weird and terrifying. And those eyes... They look like there staring deep in my soul
Ei tota prototyypin Octaviota voi ottaa tosissaan 🤣🤣🤣 ja kiinnostas tietää mitä Slylle tapahtu kun se oli tossa loukkaantuneena Octavio bossfightin jälkeen Bentleyn sijasta 🤔
Jossain prototyyppi versiossa Sly oli se, jota Octavio veti turpaan. Bentley sitten toimii tappelun ajan tervaventtiilien kanssa.
@@reichtangleanschluss509 okei 😃👍
I really like both designs! Just different vibes.
It’s interesting how the Guru’s paint was a light grey color instead of yellow, and his ears seemed to be lighter than the rest of his body.
I actually like proto bentleys costume more
I.. think you may’ve swapped the chat room scenes by accident there, cuz the final version should be on the right instead of the left.
How did you find the Prototype of Sly 3?
Yeah I have an unpopular opinion but I prefer the original Octavio design, the new one was way overdone.
I mean its a cartoony game series. Of course some of the villains are gonna be over the top
That's the point of a villain. They need to be menacing! Not some creepy guy with a cape and eyes that look like an insect
The first typing section for the Flight of Fancy intro should be in the Final's tab
Nope, the Final is from PS2. They for some reason changed it in the HD collection for similar, what was on the Prototype.
@@CooperCurse About two years late to this, but the chat room is in the NTSC version of Sly 3 on PS2. This seems to be a PAL change that was reverted when The Sly Collection rolled around.
Anything for #4 prototypes?
9:46 - 10:16 are you sure that is prototype on the left? Because that's how it looks like when I play my Sly Trilogy fame.
Yep, they apparently changed to that in the trilogy version. The ''Final'' on this video is from PS2.
@@CooperCurse ooohhh that explains a lot.
@@CooperCurse Are you sure? Because I just played this on my PS2 that still works, and the typing scene is there for me. Was there multiple releases? Because the scene in the prototype is in my game on PS2. I don't own the trilogy game.
@@kitakoproductions8894 what region are you in? I’m from the US and I also had the typing prototype on PS2. It might have been a regional difference.
@@MCrewDude I'm also in The US
Interesting how in the prototype the cutscene after the Octavio battle shows Sky injured instead of Bentley. Were their roles originally reversed in that fight? Was Octavio originally supposed to knock out sly and was Bentley supposed to pump the tar during the fight?
Ngl the guru prototype version looks like a shiny Pokémon while the final version looks like the normal Pokémon without shiny 9:09
Interrsting…im glad they changed octavio..in the original he just looked like a sad old man but now he looks an intimidating mobster..hes iconic
Wait what? In prototype Sly was the one who was knocked out by octavio? In Final it's Bentley
They should've kept the original design for Octavio
Ew no!
You're kidding
so in the protype It was sly the one who got hurt and made Murray come back to fighting
Why is it that I think Beta Octavio looks like a school janitor?
9:47 This Isn’t right this these should be swapped because the left is what actually happened.
They actually changed it in the HD collection, for some unknown reason! The ''Final'' is from PS2.
@@CooperCurse aw ok I didn’t know this I’m a terrible Fan
@@HazzyFcrazy It's fine! I didn't remember it having this much changes myself neither!
@@CooperCurseI have the PS2 version and have played it for years, and the prototype version is what is used for that cutscene for me every time.
I wish the game could get remastered 😔
In 9:47 I don’t remember this on the final cutscene
Sly disguise for getting on the airline looked a lot like the Postal Dude. Not sure if that was intentional or not.
Where's the 4th and 5th?
"Jungle shit" lmao
I've always thought that Sly 2 band of thieves should be called Sly 2 honor among thieves because it's a lot about honor and Sly 3 honor among thieves should be called Sly 3 band of thieves because it's all about getting together a bunch of thieves together
And my favorite cooper bradley
Dagobah sounds (Jungle shit)
Old vs new
Where’s episode 4 and 5
This Prototype doesn't have any animated cutscenes on them after episode 3.
Bentley the “genius” can’t spell cookie?
It looks like he was under 5 years old
12:55 BALD
Moi Je préfère la version finale