I got a Hoffman Condor and it's a complete bike with sealed hubs and cromoly and double wall rims and 8 spline cranks for 300 and I've replaced everything but the frame and I've cracked the frame and got rewelded ... I'm still ridding the frame it's going strong and I've 180 down a 6 stair and jumped down a 10 stair , it works perfectly and that's a bike I would recommend to any beginner and it will last them a year or 2 depending on how hard a rider they are
@Brant_Moore I was thinking about buying the white one so I have 2 but their gonna be releasing another one soon so I'm gonna wait and see that one looks like.
1st bike was an olddddd like 2011 18' hoffman condor. my current bike is a custom subrosa simo next bike when my frame snaps ill prolly get anothrr subrosa, or an s&m/cult
Yeah bought a kink gap XL 21 inch top tube with a free coaster double-walled rim and enclosing I was just wondering what you think about the kink brand.
A good video, although IMO "warranty" should be a factor too. Because if you buy used, even if it's a great custom bike, most likely you have no warranty. With a new bike, if all the receipts etc are kept, you've got warranty to cover you as a safe guard
You're definitely right. Did i forget to mention it toward the end? Haha Already can't remember but I feel like I did when talking about it at the end of the video. Thanks for watching man!!
question: when you start comparing bike 1,2,3 n 4 how do you know what parts are better than other parts...? I'm not implying a companies parts are good or bad, just in your opinion, what's the easiest way to potentially avoid a weaker and more prone to breakage brand/parts? example: mission, salt, odyssey, or the companies name(ex: Fit). fyi: no 48 spline cranks to be found. For a 400 to 500 price range, you tend to notice each bike is trimmed off on different area's of the bike. most common is double wall rim in the back n single wall rim in the front. mix of sealed and non-sealed hubs. crossbreed of 4130 chromo with Hi-Ten w/ Integrated HT, Cromo DT and DO
Thats a reallllly good question. Im going to have to make a video about this one. Mission, Salt, and Rant are all lower grade parts companies owned by larger companies. In general the big brand names are better and most parts from them will be better than the lower tiers. You're pretty safe with names like Odyssey, Sunday, Shadow, Subrosa, Fit, WeThePeople, Demolition, Profile...the list really could go on but its all of the bigger named companies.
@@Brant_Moore alright.. check it.. i ordered a stranger crux 2019.. how did i do? $542.00 The Crux bike features a full chromoly frame, fork and bar The 2019 Stranger Crux FC Bike features an aftermarket Crux frame, fork and bar with Stranger Quan grips, Stranger Haze v2 stem, Stranger tripod seat, Stranger Crux cranks, Primo Solid sprocket, Primo Churchill tires, and Primo JJ pedals. Frame: 20.75" Toptube Bars: 8.75" Rise Cranks: Stranger Crux 2 PC 48 Spine Chromoly 175mm W/ Primo sealed BB Wheels: Stranger Crux front and rear Crux Cassette w/ 9T driver Tires: 20"x2.45" Primo Churchill Brakes: 990 W/ straight cable and removable mounts Headtube Angle: 75.5° Seattube Angle: 70° BB Height: 11.5" Chainstay: 12.8" Seattube Height: 9" (228.6mm)
This video has been helpful, I am researching and shopping to buy a new bike for my son...it will be his first "real" bike of the 20" size and BMX style. A few we have narrowed it down to, are Elite Destro, DK Cygnus, and a couple others. He is 13, and 5'3" ...I doubt he ever tops 5'8"... of the bikes on our short list, a couple are 20.5" TT, and at least one is onlt a 20" top tube... what can u tell me about that, and also, if you could tell me what u think might be better between the Destro and Cygnus, or any others you think we should also consider in the $300-400 range, that would be most appreciated. Take care mister, amd thanks for the video...
Hard tail or full sus? 27.5, 29er, 27.5 plus, 29er plus, Fat, steel, carbon or aluminum, Sram or Shimano, 1x11, 1x12, 2x10, 3x10, cross country, enduro,, downhill... It goes on like this..
@@Brant_Moore Double wall rims first though hey? Do they bend from jumping off curbs and stairs or when trying spin tricks? Cause I would rather sealed berrings.. I guess buying a bike with double wall rims would have sealed berrings anyway
Wow MTB's are way too difficult. haha Yea in talking with a few people before making this one, they said that the first thing people have trouble with are the rims. Single walled rims usually bend and need attention before unsealed hubs start to go.
Seems like a super solid bike that will last quite a while with no quick replacements. How does it compare to other similar bikes around the 400$ mark?
I got a sweet deal on a bmx bike at performance bike; a new se hoodrich for $175 normally $439. What if you can’t score a deal? Are there any decent big box/ Walmart bikes out there?
I would say that unless its 100% the only option, people should stay away from buying a bike at a big box store if they're planning on learning to ride and sticking with it for any decent amount of time. The problems that will quickly arise are preventable by trying to come up with just a little more money and getting something better. Mongoose does make a pretty legit complete bike, but its also up there in the price range of other legit bikes. If strapped for cash entirely, a used bike on craigslist or the facebook marketplace is the best bet for getting something that will last and be safe for bmx.
Sealed hubs over chromoly....there is something wrong in the industry if that's a legit concern. Hubs should be quality enough even unsealed, but it seems these days that's not so. In the old days, non-chromoly parts wasn't even a serious consideration.
It used to be that unsealed hubs were quality. It just meant cheaper, but no less precise. I have an unsealed hub on my bike now, and it's it....problematic to say the least, lol.
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I got a Hoffman Condor and it's a complete bike with sealed hubs and cromoly and double wall rims and 8 spline cranks for 300 and I've replaced everything but the frame and I've cracked the frame and got rewelded ... I'm still ridding the frame it's going strong and I've 180 down a 6 stair and jumped down a 10 stair , it works perfectly and that's a bike I would recommend to any beginner and it will last them a year or 2 depending on how hard a rider they are
Sounds like a decent bike for a good price!
@Brant_Moore it is for sure
I bought the haro mirra pro tribute for $800 and just upgraded the gyro, rear brakes, put on metal pedals and kneesaver bars.
Hell yea, that’s definitely one that ticks just about all of the boxes. Especially with your upgrades. You get the white or red?
@Brant_Moore red one
@Brant_Moore I was thinking about buying the white one so I have 2 but their gonna be releasing another one soon so I'm gonna wait and see that one looks like.
1st bike was an olddddd like 2011 18' hoffman condor.
my current bike is a custom subrosa simo
next bike when my frame snaps ill prolly get anothrr subrosa, or an s&m/cult
THSNKS BRANT 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻 Big Fan in México 🇲🇽!!!
Thank you!!!!
All of the opposite!
Yeah bought a kink gap XL 21 inch top tube with a free coaster double-walled rim and enclosing I was just wondering what you think about the kink brand.
Good advice I built my last to bmx bikes from dans comp on sale parts
Thank you! Sale parts are always a better option. Especially older colorways because they're often the exact same parts but just older colors.
Thanks. Very helpful
A good video, although IMO "warranty" should be a factor too. Because if you buy used, even if it's a great custom bike, most likely you have no warranty. With a new bike, if all the receipts etc are kept, you've got warranty to cover you as a safe guard
You're definitely right. Did i forget to mention it toward the end?
Haha Already can't remember but I feel like I did when talking about it at the end of the video.
Thanks for watching man!!
All good man, just thought it should be included in the list, that's all
Oh absolutely. Definite oversight on my part
question: when you start comparing bike 1,2,3 n 4 how do you know what parts are better than other parts...? I'm not implying a companies parts are good or bad, just in your opinion, what's the easiest way to potentially avoid a weaker and more prone to breakage brand/parts?
example: mission, salt, odyssey, or the companies name(ex: Fit).
fyi: no 48 spline cranks to be found.
For a 400 to 500 price range, you tend to notice each bike is trimmed off on different area's of the bike.
most common is double wall rim in the back n single wall rim in the front.
mix of sealed and non-sealed hubs.
crossbreed of 4130 chromo with Hi-Ten w/ Integrated HT, Cromo DT and DO
Thats a reallllly good question. Im going to have to make a video about this one.
Mission, Salt, and Rant are all lower grade parts companies owned by larger companies.
In general the big brand names are better and most parts from them will be better than the lower tiers.
You're pretty safe with names like Odyssey, Sunday, Shadow, Subrosa, Fit, WeThePeople, Demolition, Profile...the list really could go on but its all of the bigger named companies.
@@Brant_Moore alright.. check it.. i ordered a stranger crux 2019.. how did i do? $542.00
The Crux bike features a full chromoly frame, fork and bar The 2019 Stranger Crux FC Bike features an aftermarket Crux frame, fork and bar
with Stranger Quan grips, Stranger Haze v2 stem, Stranger tripod seat, Stranger Crux cranks, Primo Solid sprocket, Primo Churchill tires, and Primo JJ pedals.
Frame: 20.75" Toptube
Bars: 8.75" Rise
Cranks: Stranger Crux 2 PC 48 Spine Chromoly 175mm W/ Primo sealed BB
Wheels: Stranger Crux front and rear Crux Cassette w/ 9T driver
Tires: 20"x2.45" Primo Churchill
Brakes: 990 W/ straight cable and removable mounts
Headtube Angle: 75.5°
Seattube Angle: 70°
BB Height: 11.5"
Chainstay: 12.8"
Seattube Height: 9" (228.6mm)
Seems like the cost of everything separately would be way more than what you paid, so I’d say that’s a good deal!
@@Brant_Moore thanks bro for all your tips and effort you put in.. totally helps.!!
Always happy to help man! Thank you for being here to watch
depends also what kind of riding..
Very late question but I ride street and I’m looking for a new bmx at the moment I’ve got my eyes on the cult gateway you got any suggestions
This video has been helpful, I am researching and shopping to buy a new bike for my son...it will be his first "real" bike of the 20" size and BMX style.
A few we have narrowed it down to, are Elite Destro, DK Cygnus, and a couple others. He is 13, and 5'3" ...I doubt he ever tops 5'8"... of the bikes on our short list, a couple are 20.5" TT, and at least one is onlt a 20" top tube... what can u tell me about that, and also, if you could tell me what u think might be better between the Destro and Cygnus, or any others you think we should also consider in the $300-400 range, that would be most appreciated. Take care mister, amd thanks for the video...
Never buy destro for a starter bike, its unsealed and single wall rims with hi ten steal frame
This is so much easier to understand than mountain biking
BMX bikes are definitely prettty simple when you break them down!
Hard tail or full sus? 27.5, 29er, 27.5 plus, 29er plus, Fat, steel, carbon or aluminum, Sram or Shimano, 1x11, 1x12, 2x10, 3x10, cross country, enduro,, downhill... It goes on like this..
@@Brant_Moore Double wall rims first though hey? Do they bend from jumping off curbs and stairs or when trying spin tricks? Cause I would rather sealed berrings.. I guess buying a bike with double wall rims would have sealed berrings anyway
Wow MTB's are way too difficult. haha
Yea in talking with a few people before making this one, they said that the first thing people have trouble with are the rims.
Single walled rims usually bend and need attention before unsealed hubs start to go.
@@Brant_MooreRight on.. Thanks man😀
Is it good to order one online from source bmx?
Stacked BMX!
Or your local bike shop!
@@Brant_Moore everything is sold out ☹️
Should I try and buy aluminium. And are those 80s style plastics spokes OK or 🤔
It's for my son he's 9 .
For a 9 year only you probably don’t have much to worry about unless he’s trying tricks and jumping things.
Thanks 👊 from Liverpool England UK.
Happy to help!
Fit 2018 BEGIN FC is son sale rn at $430 should I buy it or no.
Seems like a super solid bike that will last quite a while with no quick replacements.
How does it compare to other similar bikes around the 400$ mark?
I wanted to buy the Fit 2018 SPRIET that is $400,but i think Fit 2018 Begin is better because it has double wall rims and a Free coaster.
Yep you're right and the freecoaster has sealed bearings so even better in that regard too.
Seems like you've got your bike!
thanks man
You got it!
I got a sweet deal on a bmx bike at performance bike; a new se hoodrich for $175 normally $439. What if you can’t score a deal? Are there any decent big box/ Walmart bikes out there?
I would say that unless its 100% the only option, people should stay away from buying a bike at a big box store if they're planning on learning to ride and sticking with it for any decent amount of time.
The problems that will quickly arise are preventable by trying to come up with just a little more money and getting something better.
Mongoose does make a pretty legit complete bike, but its also up there in the price range of other legit bikes.
If strapped for cash entirely, a used bike on craigslist or the facebook marketplace is the best bet for getting something that will last and be safe for bmx.
Sealed hubs over chromoly....there is something wrong in the industry if that's a legit concern. Hubs should be quality enough even unsealed, but it seems these days that's not so. In the old days, non-chromoly parts wasn't even a serious consideration.
There are complete bikes over 400$ that don’t have sealed hubs
It used to be that unsealed hubs were quality. It just meant cheaper, but no less precise. I have an unsealed hub on my bike now, and it's it....problematic to say the least, lol.
hahaha saying problematic is being very generous.
Tinkering with an unsealed front hub is the biggest pain ever when it doesn't want to work.
Is diamond back a good bmx brand?
I would look for something else
Damn, he looks just like my aunt Gina in this video LoL
Aunt Gina must be hot
What about the We the people curse I could get it on sale for 325 on Dans Comp (Also is that a real website) Please respond because I might buy it!
well danscomp is a gr8 site, and wtp is a great brand. if u didnt get it and u still somehow lookin at it get it.
Great great advice
I dont trust you bro
Bit harsh probably on meds
Lol he has a Karen haircut
I had it first!