This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Heard a lot about it, (mostly negative) and was intrigued. It only took 1 video for me to realize you're genuine and simply spitting facts. Keep the content coming 💪
I totally agree. It's nice to see that someone is a straight shooter. I found the channel by mere chance (yt rabbit hole) about a year ago, and followed the whole thing, including the actual Games . Keep up the good work @hillerfit
Andrew, Andy, Hiller. Honestly, all your content is absolutely class mate. I sometimes do not understand how you hit the nail square on the head every time. You’re like a f’kin CrossFit laser beam.
Solid video, good info and i liked the deadlifter to long walk comparison. Good way to explain it Also, more Archer clips please. Phrasing is still a thing
@hillerfit man...your videos are awesome! They have been getting better and better as you've grown this thing. I get stoked when I see the little red dot by your channels name alerting me there is a new video. Keep up the great work Hiller!
Brilliant release today! You've hit it spot on and something, as someone who has a background in (sports) physiology, what you're saying is something I feel a lot of folks don't get or acknowledge.
While logistically impossible, it would be fun to have the entire community do a 100-workout test of fitness over the course of a year (Pros, Locals, Gym Rats, Muscle hedz, etc.). Workouts are posted every 4th day, and you have 72 hours to submit a score. Let us see what happens when you test a large group over a long time and include all domains.
@@ShootTheClubUp42 I honestly think the closest thing out there is #streetparking Vault series. 25 Workouts a year, and a large sample size. There is a ton of information that can be teased out of their databases.
Ok, I have questions, 1. How much does it cost an athlete to attend the crossfit games? 2. Would you pay that amount to go knowing you would will be cut on Friday? or Saturday? 3. How many people would spectate the games if it was only the top 10? Doesn't allowing for more contestants increase viewership and therefore revenue? I understand that cuts allow for different programing for events, but it seems to me that they could be shooting themselves in the foot but decreasing interest in the games by decreasing the participation numbers on Saturday and Sunday.
You will be paying to say you are a Games Athlete. Being at the games will Help with sponsors (money) and your overall ranking (potential sponsors and money). Plus you have to pay to play. Maybe you get lucky on wods and cuts
How many people do you actually know that watch every heat from all events? Probably not too many. As for paying, if I ever had a chance to go (I never will lol), I would pay to go and be willing to be cut Friday just to say I AM a games athlete. That’s pretty stinkin awesome.
The bottom 20 cannot do the programs to the level that the top 10 can. What would lose viewership would be watching tame programming to accommodate the people at the bottom. Let's figure out the front runners and then watch them. I don't really want to spend time watching the bottom 20 get capped all weekend. The days are long enough as is.
@@larrysupersport To find the top 20. We have seen people we expect to be top 20 end up in the bottom 20 and vice versa. However, this happens in the first two days. No need to keep the bottom 20 all weekend.
@@hillerfit you nailed. Good job. TDC nailed it to. The question of whether he was going to make any significant changes to this years Games has been answered with a RESOUNDING YES. HA
@hillerfit hmmmmmm could be the reason I haven't lost any fat mass, added any muscle mass on the Gatorade sludge ans snickers diet. My glycogen stores are full to the brim, so I have that going for me 😂
Yeah, quite the rollercoaster on this one... went a long way around the Aromas ranch to get to the conclusion. Fun times, definitely looking forward to the games this year. 😂 Thanks Hiller!
It’s a misconception that she struggles with all handstand push-ups. While she isn’t the best at them, she survives workouts with standard hspu or even strict. It’s the deficit, specifically Parallette hspu, ones that she absolutely falls apart on.
i dont completely disagree. only thing that i think makes it a bit different than the Froning example is like you said something pull out of a hopper they should be better than most people at. To me climbing a rope is something anyone whos like slightly above average in terms of health and fitness can do, but a strict deficit hspu has a much smaller field of people who can do it and id still argue shes better than 98% of people at strict deficit hspu. my mind could be changed but i think as long as they make the minimum work requirement like 2 reps im okay with it
I admittedly didnt watch all of DC's WIR video, but after watching your video, and taking in some of the comments, taking a minute to digest some of the info... I think that DC's plan will force the athletes to deviate from their routine strategies to make any/all of the cuts. No complete sandbagging - y'all gotta give'er from the start!!😅
Castro in one of the BB documentaries (the one people were calling the running games, 2018 I think?) said something to the effect of "Maybe we didn't find the correct 2nd fittest or the 3rd fittest, but I think we did find the fittest on Earth and that's what it's all about.". I know with a certainty that that isn't an exact quote, but anyone who watched it knows what I'm talking about. The Games are about finding that person that rises to the top no matter the circumstance because they can do their weak movements well enough to stay relevant and their strong movements are unmatched. I'm not convinced Laura is that person.
Just watched Medeiros' vlog where they feature some Lumberjack Games highlights. There are so many physical disciplines in the world that to say someone would be not be fittest cause a movement is missing is kind of dumb. There are so many missing movements. The fact is "Fittest on Earth" is a slogan that applies to the winner of an event run by a private company.
also if you listen to Dave they will be no heavy lift till at least Saturday due to logistics and 1 platform so the big lifters better do good before that day
Dave Castro: "We need to have early cuts, because it allows us to be *really* creative with the programming." Proceeds to program these events after the early cut: #7) 5K run around the parking lot, #8) Row erg and box jumps, #9) max snatch+C&J 🙄🤣
so why does it have to specificto the deficit handstand push up but not specific any other movement? Based on your arguement, because that one possible variation of a movement she can't win, the Justin shouldn't be consider the fittest because he has a giant weakness in strict press, 2020 games, and its hasn't been tested since then.
I don’t agree that the lack of strict deficit HSPU in this years games will make us all question. That is a singular movement that out of 15 tests I have my doubts that including would make that much of a difference. Also, the other girls all have a hole somewhere in their skill sets that if the games avoided all the those holes for the top 5 women, Laura would still win since her strengths are above and beyond the others. Having said that, a few of the young women may have a shot depending on how they’ve shored up weaknesses (eg, Emma Carry, Emma Lawson, and Alex Gazan)
imo,LH has both hspu, and general cardio stamina weaknesses..She has improved in the second area. , if like at rogue 2022 she can get enough of a buffer she can win. she does have huge competition from el, ec, kd, db,al, ak. the 2023 games will be interesting
At CrossFit you have to be "pretty good" at everything and be able to hit a couple home runs. With Games athletes you have to be "excellent" at everything and be able to hit a couple home runs.
I think you give way more credit to "Genetic Lottery" new research is showing that it is roughly 20% genetics that predetermines how great you can be at something specifically athletically etc. A bigger factor is performing athletics at a young age such as tumbling etc that is a much bigger determinant if you are good at a sport etc.
I know you were reared in Catholicism but this sounds like a protestant argument of Calvinism and arminianism, lol. I do think the NFL has the best system because it’s constantly adjusting and making its league better as much as possible. Love your takes. As I mentioned before you should start you own post games documentary movies.
@@hillerfit the way you described it 2 or 3 videos ago. Fast and furious style , heroes, villains etc, but in documentary form. Back ground on athletes, training, background, family
@@hillerfit I guess that would be one way. I was thinking more like a games summation. Broad base view displaying the sport as well as the athletes I think your number should be a lot higher that way as well. You gain a broader audience show the highlights in the things that need to be improved in the sport.
If cuts had happened on the wod that Tia failed to move on to the next round (the one with DU? or croosed jump ropes?) She would not have won the title. Crossfit is not about being the best at everything but being the best well rounded. Tia managed to come back up the leaderboard after a few events, the same way Laura manages to climb u0 the leaderboard after a bad wod due to HSPU... with cuts implemented, it also has to do with some luck what movements will come out or not, so it is no longer about the fittest. The year they made a big early cut you had in top 10 a dude that was injured and didn't finish the workouts... not fair to those who could have made a great come back with fighting and mental strength (and that is something Laura has) how many times did she start bad and climbed back up? Makes me think of Vellner 😅
I thoght you also told Tia is taking drugs so of course no naturals can beat her😂...Anyways I think Laura would like to show she can win despite strict def. HSPU showing up this year just like at Rouge. She will be strong and I will cheer her no matter what. If she wins you would know you can plan your comeback and win the games too, since you are basicly same, you also have just this one weakness😉 So now I gave you a reason why you should cheer her too
He didn’t say that he actually said her genetics make it possible that she isn’t .. do I think she uses .. maybe but that’s more because she is super lean and killing it .. I just can’t fathom a women being that lean all year and pushing it that hard all year long being drug free .. but that’s me ..
@@Kwildcat13 well we hope that Tia is free of drugs, it won"t be fair to the others if she did take something.I cheered her in 2017 (Laura did not make it that year yet), but I think she changed a lot since...but who knows she might be a super human, let's hope that is the case!I like Laura better she is natural and she stayed how she was at the begining. Laura is not the best for media because she does not like to make ads all the time or be in the spotlights. Some other girls insta is almost just about commercials, hers is almost just working out.That is why Crossfit HQ pushes other athletes more...well I am proud that Hungary is represented by her.
Hey buddy 1) the “hopper” is not valid. We saw that last year on the crossover double under: 75 super fit people and no one could do it. There is no “hopper”; practice time on task is all that matters. Greg made up the hopper to sell level 1s but it has no validity at all.
Greg at broken science: you can’t just pull together unrelated stuff and publish it to support whatever conclusion you started with Greg in crossfit: these random tests are totally valid yo
I agree the hopper model is not useful for competition. As a thought model for comparing CrossFit to other disciplines it is valid. I would summarize it as: If you pull 1 thing out of the hopper, the specialist will win. With each additional item that you pull out, GPP increases in value. If you pull 20 things from the hopper, it's likely a top CrossFitter will win.
@@jimchaput9034 I'm not convinced. If those 20 things were the events of a decathlon plus NFL combine, the CrossFitters would appear unfit and poorly coordinated. In the parallel bar traverse, we saw two former gymnasts win (Vellner and Loewen). They won because of more total time on task, not some weird "hopper" idea. My point is, CrossFitters excel at the Games because they are fantastic at CrossFit. Gymnasts are good at gymnastics. CrossFitters are good at CrossFit. "Hopper" or "broad general" is just marketing language. In short the validity of the hopper depends on what comes out, which means it is deterministic and therefore useless in this context.
@@ShootTheClubUp42 you honestly believe in a multitude of tests, that ANY top 25 level crossfitter would seriously be considered unfit and poorly conditioned? Of course a specialist is going to be good at something they specialized in for most of their life! It's like you are arguing both sides at the same time.
@@hillerfit this video is indeed a rollercoaster. There are a lot of good points here but I think it comes down to (IMO) if there is no challenge, the athletes will remain the same, the top athletes will indeed remain the same and the stats will predict the winners for the season. I'm not just talking about challenges in the way of workouts like new movements or more reps or more weight, or changing the time domains, but things like NEW CUTS, and now the athletes will need to push harder on that first day to "staay alive", or the fact that they may be doing movements with no grips/protective equipment when they haven't done specific movements without grips for a decent amount of time. We will see what the games brings. :)
Laura hasn't displayed she has what it takes physically to win the games so she'll just be a podium athlete at best. DB is extremely good but she doesn't have the mental fortitude to win yet. Personally I see Annie T winning this year because of her elite physical abilities and mental maturity.
I knew something was “off” these past couple years when I started to question the passion and excitement crossfit had in the previous years. Low and behold when I hesitated taking the rose colored glasses off, here comes Andrew Hiller to explain what I couldn’t. Not all heroes wear capes, they spit facts & CrossFit 🫡
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This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Heard a lot about it, (mostly negative) and was intrigued. It only took 1 video for me to realize you're genuine and simply spitting facts. Keep the content coming 💪
This is a top ten favorite comments of all time Elizabeth. Thanks for giving me a shot!
I totally agree. It's nice to see that someone is a straight shooter. I found the channel by mere chance (yt rabbit hole) about a year ago, and followed the whole thing, including the actual Games . Keep up the good work @hillerfit
I was the same @elizabethbest719 now it's my absolute go to for all CrossFit.
Excellent channel @hillerfit
Welcome to the gang. Watch the open ones again. They are classic.
Same
Andrew, Andy, Hiller. Honestly, all your content is absolutely class mate. I sometimes do not understand how you hit the nail square on the head every time. You’re like a f’kin CrossFit laser beam.
I like it. The CrossFit LASER BEAM
Solid video, good info and i liked the deadlifter to long walk comparison. Good way to explain it
Also, more Archer clips please. Phrasing is still a thing
@hillerfit man...your videos are awesome! They have been getting better and better as you've grown this thing. I get stoked when I see the little red dot by your channels name alerting me there is a new video. Keep up the great work Hiller!
Thanks dude!! I'm also glad to here the alerts are working again!
Brilliant release today! You've hit it spot on and something, as someone who has a background in (sports) physiology, what you're saying is something I feel a lot of folks don't get or acknowledge.
Dude…I don’t know how you did it…but your “roller coaster” was exciting & somehow I followed that! Well done!
Hiller Vs Richey.....1 lift event, 1 METCON, 1 odd object.
He would be screwed
While logistically impossible, it would be fun to have the entire community do a 100-workout test of fitness over the course of a year (Pros, Locals, Gym Rats, Muscle hedz, etc.). Workouts are posted every 4th day, and you have 72 hours to submit a score. Let us see what happens when you test a large group over a long time and include all domains.
Hiller could pull this off
Maybe not 100 events but some big number
I know some guys who can help. Dead serious BTW love this idea.
This is a very very cool idea.
We can call it...
Extreme Fitness
@@hillerfit And all finishers get a "NoRep" shirt!!
@@ShootTheClubUp42 I honestly think the closest thing out there is #streetparking Vault series. 25 Workouts a year, and a large sample size. There is a ton of information that can be teased out of their databases.
Love your channel brother but please change the Ritchie slow mo thing at the end lol
Only real ones followed the entire video and only understanding the end 😤 lol dope video man!
Holy hell that is great to hear!
Ok, I have questions, 1. How much does it cost an athlete to attend the crossfit games? 2. Would you pay that amount to go knowing you would will be cut on Friday? or Saturday? 3. How many people would spectate the games if it was only the top 10? Doesn't allowing for more contestants increase viewership and therefore revenue? I understand that cuts allow for different programing for events, but it seems to me that they could be shooting themselves in the foot but decreasing interest in the games by decreasing the participation numbers on Saturday and Sunday.
You will be paying to say you are a Games Athlete. Being at the games will
Help with sponsors (money) and your overall ranking (potential sponsors and money). Plus you have to pay to play. Maybe you get lucky on wods and cuts
How many people do you actually know that watch every heat from all events? Probably not too many. As for paying, if I ever had a chance to go (I never will lol), I would pay to go and be willing to be cut Friday just to say I AM a games athlete. That’s pretty stinkin awesome.
The bottom 20 cannot do the programs to the level that the top 10 can. What would lose viewership would be watching tame programming to accommodate the people at the bottom. Let's figure out the front runners and then watch them. I don't really want to spend time watching the bottom 20 get capped all weekend. The days are long enough as is.
@@orbbb24 So why send 40 to the games?
@@larrysupersport To find the top 20. We have seen people we expect to be top 20 end up in the bottom 20 and vice versa. However, this happens in the first two days. No need to keep the bottom 20 all weekend.
@hillerfit the speegle shade with that crumbl cookie comment😂
Great fn vid bro. Rollercoaster makes complete sense. Well done👊🏼
Dudeeee I'm happy to hear this. Took me a few tries this time around
@@hillerfit you nailed. Good job.
TDC nailed it to. The question of whether he was going to make any significant changes to this years Games has been answered with a RESOUNDING YES. HA
Man you’re really making those analogies and comparisons click 💡 for the lay person. 👍
The poker one came up on the fly, I'm glad it worked!
Cuts drive competition. I'm for it. Always on hot seat.
Damn right
Mat Fraser leveled up his food game to gatorade sludge and snickers
With a purpose though not just mindless garbage
@hillerfit hmmmmmm could be the reason I haven't lost any fat mass, added any muscle mass on the Gatorade sludge ans snickers diet. My glycogen stores are full to the brim, so I have that going for me 😂
Yeah, quite the rollercoaster on this one... went a long way around the Aromas ranch to get to the conclusion. Fun times, definitely looking forward to the games this year. 😂 Thanks Hiller!
You could follow though right?
@@hillerfit Yes, it was very entertaining, for me 👌
I bought some C4 on prime day thanks for the heads up.
Semifinals Event 6 had handstand push-ups and handstand walks and Horvath dominated
It’s a misconception that she struggles with all handstand push-ups. While she isn’t the best at them, she survives workouts with standard hspu or even strict. It’s the deficit, specifically Parallette hspu, ones that she absolutely falls apart on.
Gotta be a deficit
they should give tia a last minute special invitation to compete this year just to frost everyone's cookies
i dont completely disagree. only thing that i think makes it a bit different than the Froning example is like you said something pull out of a hopper they should be better than most people at. To me climbing a rope is something anyone whos like slightly above average in terms of health and fitness can do, but a strict deficit hspu has a much smaller field of people who can do it and id still argue shes better than 98% of people at strict deficit hspu. my mind could be changed but i think as long as they make the minimum work requirement like 2 reps im okay with it
I admittedly didnt watch all of DC's WIR video, but after watching your video, and taking in some of the comments, taking a minute to digest some of the info... I think that DC's plan will force the athletes to deviate from their routine strategies to make any/all of the cuts. No complete sandbagging - y'all gotta give'er from the start!!😅
I think we need a deep dive into thunderbro
I did a soft dive once
He ain’t worth it…why give him/them the publicity…with that said he ain’t no tren-o-Hearn 😂
@@shanew.7618 The mike o' Hearn of CrossFit is a cool comp
Katrin did how many peg boards in 2015?
Remember when Dani couldn’t even finish a run event, and still made it to the games.
Yes true. But they were included. All eyes on Castro
If they repeat the events from last year wouldn’t Laura win? She’s so good at everything else that it doesn’t matter.
To the same extent Katin won in 2015 without a pegboard I guess I cannot argue
You should start building theme parks. Your rollercoasters are the best! 🎢
Castro in one of the BB documentaries (the one people were calling the running games, 2018 I think?) said something to the effect of "Maybe we didn't find the correct 2nd fittest or the 3rd fittest, but I think we did find the fittest on Earth and that's what it's all about.". I know with a certainty that that isn't an exact quote, but anyone who watched it knows what I'm talking about. The Games are about finding that person that rises to the top no matter the circumstance because they can do their weak movements well enough to stay relevant and their strong movements are unmatched. I'm not convinced Laura is that person.
Sam dancer in 2016 comes to mind with your hopper example. Dead last in the trail. First in the deadlift ladder.
where is the c4 link dude - trying to help out...
That hand print at 3:43 was sick
Yeah I went a bit too hard there
He said mobility 😂. He said Froning couple of years😂😂
I’m excited to watch the games this year after this video!!!
Just watched Medeiros' vlog where they feature some Lumberjack Games highlights. There are so many physical disciplines in the world that to say someone would be not be fittest cause a movement is missing is kind of dumb. There are so many missing movements. The fact is "Fittest on Earth" is a slogan that applies to the winner of an event run by a private company.
You had me at Dittos
Everyone loves a pokemon
also if you listen to Dave they will be no heavy lift till at least Saturday due to logistics and 1 platform so the big lifters better do good before that day
I think he said that was something they COULD do because of the smaller field (and has been done in the past). Not something that will be done.
its a red herring, mark my words, there WILL be heavy lifting before Saturday
Bam! Yo! Let's go!!!
MR WAYNE
Remember the days you parked the car in the garage?
Dudeeeee. I should do it.
@hillerfit When Laura Horvath strung couple first place to get third, i knew she was special! The Comeback kid. Same for Annie T. The Queen returns!
Team Katrin
Still hoping for max no-arm burpees with a 7 minute time cap.
Just a whole bunch of brusied athletes
@@hillerfit very easy to judge and would show who really really wants it.
Andrew, it’s time you create a workout called the Blob.❤
Hahahaha lots of pressure on that one
Dave Castro: "We need to have early cuts, because it allows us to be *really* creative with the programming."
Proceeds to program these events after the early cut: #7) 5K run around the parking lot, #8) Row erg and box jumps, #9) max snatch+C&J
🙄🤣
Dude i bet you would be surprised with Justins deadlift he'll pull over 600 if he needs to.
Not a chance in hell. But I'd like to see it
so why does it have to specificto the deficit handstand push up but not specific any other movement? Based on your arguement, because that one possible variation of a movement she can't win, the Justin shouldn't be consider the fittest because he has a giant weakness in strict press, 2020 games, and its hasn't been tested since then.
Ah, Hiller back to Disney references.
Those will forever be there!
@@hillerfit love them.
Damn, straight shot at Dani @6:00.
I don’t agree that the lack of strict deficit HSPU in this years games will make us all question. That is a singular movement that out of 15 tests I have my doubts that including would make that much of a difference.
Also, the other girls all have a hole somewhere in their skill sets that if the games avoided all the those holes for the top 5 women, Laura would still win since her strengths are above and beyond the others.
Having said that, a few of the young women may have a shot depending on how they’ve shored up weaknesses (eg, Emma Carry, Emma Lawson, and Alex Gazan)
imo,LH has both hspu, and general cardio stamina weaknesses..She has improved in the second area. , if like at rogue 2022 she can get enough of a buffer she can win. she does have huge competition from el, ec, kd, db,al, ak. the 2023 games will be interesting
Bozman was a great open workout judge.........
😂😂 yeah before he make crossfit look like circus
I concur
The Dani shade 😂
At CrossFit you have to be "pretty good" at everything and be able to hit a couple home runs. With Games athletes you have to be "excellent" at everything and be able to hit a couple home runs.
I think you give way more credit to "Genetic Lottery" new research is showing that it is roughly 20% genetics that predetermines how great you can be at something specifically athletically etc. A bigger factor is performing athletics at a young age such as tumbling etc that is a much bigger determinant if you are good at a sport etc.
Crumble Cookie eaters catching strays...
# Genius Andrew Hiller!
Yo don't think Jeffrey Adler has a chance this year?
The rational in the video says no. My heart says yes lol
She will win regardless if there’s deficit hspu or not
Here we go
Good afternoon Greg
I know you were reared in
Catholicism but this sounds like a protestant argument of Calvinism and arminianism, lol. I do think the NFL has the best system because it’s constantly adjusting and making its league better as much as possible. Love your takes. As I mentioned before you should start you own post games documentary movies.
Yup I did go to catholic school. What would this documentary look like??
@@hillerfit the way you described it 2 or 3 videos ago. Fast and furious style , heroes, villains etc, but in documentary form. Back ground on athletes, training, background, family
@@spencergrigg8720 Maybe just one athlete at a time?
@@hillerfit I guess that would be one way. I was thinking more like a games summation. Broad base view displaying the sport as well as the athletes I think your number should be a lot higher that way as well. You gain a broader audience show the highlights in the things that need to be improved in the sport.
Also, the many things that are great about doing CrossFit. Diversity and training, camaraderie, team, play, etc..
Oopsie! She did it!
If cuts had happened on the wod that Tia failed to move on to the next round (the one with DU? or croosed jump ropes?) She would not have won the title. Crossfit is not about being the best at everything but being the best well rounded. Tia managed to come back up the leaderboard after a few events, the same way Laura manages to climb u0 the leaderboard after a bad wod due to HSPU... with cuts implemented, it also has to do with some luck what movements will come out or not, so it is no longer about the fittest. The year they made a big early cut you had in top 10 a dude that was injured and didn't finish the workouts... not fair to those who could have made a great come back with fighting and mental strength (and that is something Laura has) how many times did she start bad and climbed back up? Makes me think of Vellner 😅
Blob! love it!
on average, shoulder muscles ARE bigger than the pectoral muscles.
I wanna know who the penguin is at 5:23.
I thoght you also told Tia is taking drugs so of course no naturals can beat her😂...Anyways I think Laura would like to show she can win despite strict def. HSPU showing up this year just like at Rouge.
She will be strong and I will cheer her no matter what.
If she wins you would know you can plan your comeback and win the games too, since you are basicly same, you also have just this one weakness😉 So now I gave you a reason why you should cheer her too
He didn’t say that he actually said her genetics make it possible that she isn’t .. do I think she uses .. maybe but that’s more because she is super lean and killing it .. I just can’t fathom a women being that lean all year and pushing it that hard all year long being drug free .. but that’s me ..
@@Kwildcat13 well we hope that Tia is free of drugs, it won"t be fair to the others if she did take something.I cheered her in 2017 (Laura did not make it that year yet), but I think she changed a lot since...but who knows she might be a super human, let's hope that is the case!I like Laura better she is natural and she stayed how she was at the begining. Laura is not the best for media because she does not like to make ads all the time or be in the spotlights. Some other girls insta is almost just about commercials, hers is almost just working out.That is why Crossfit HQ pushes other athletes more...well I am proud that Hungary is represented by her.
More archer please
Horvath for the win! 🎉
Hey buddy
1) the “hopper” is not valid. We saw that last year on the crossover double under: 75 super fit people and no one could do it. There is no “hopper”; practice time on task is all that matters. Greg made up the hopper to sell level 1s but it has no validity at all.
Wait they were there though? And only a fraction of the field was able to try them.
Greg at broken science: you can’t just pull together unrelated stuff and publish it to support whatever conclusion you started with
Greg in crossfit: these random tests are totally valid yo
I agree the hopper model is not useful for competition. As a thought model for comparing CrossFit to other disciplines it is valid. I would summarize it as: If you pull 1 thing out of the hopper, the specialist will win. With each additional item that you pull out, GPP increases in value. If you pull 20 things from the hopper, it's likely a top CrossFitter will win.
@@jimchaput9034 I'm not convinced. If those 20 things were the events of a decathlon plus NFL combine, the CrossFitters would appear unfit and poorly coordinated. In the parallel bar traverse, we saw two former gymnasts win (Vellner and Loewen). They won because of more total time on task, not some weird "hopper" idea. My point is, CrossFitters excel at the Games because they are fantastic at CrossFit. Gymnasts are good at gymnastics. CrossFitters are good at CrossFit. "Hopper" or "broad general" is just marketing language. In short the validity of the hopper depends on what comes out, which means it is deterministic and therefore useless in this context.
@@ShootTheClubUp42 you honestly believe in a multitude of tests, that ANY top 25 level crossfitter would seriously be considered unfit and poorly conditioned? Of course a specialist is going to be good at something they specialized in for most of their life! It's like you are arguing both sides at the same time.
Anyone paying attention knows that Annie is going to win.
I could see it. But hope for Katrin
@@hillerfit yeah, she could. I think a lot of people are sleeping on both of them. And they’re both killers.
4:55 Dittos dancing
You like that?!
@@hillerfit wait, you don't?
Okay - I missed this ditto stuff .. where is it in the vid?
@@donnaioannou5199 It's literally in my comment.
@@donnaioannou5199 4:55
Accurate.
Which part?
@@hillerfit this video is indeed a rollercoaster. There are a lot of good points here but I think it comes down to (IMO) if there is no challenge, the athletes will remain the same, the top athletes will indeed remain the same and the stats will predict the winners for the season. I'm not just talking about challenges in the way of workouts like new movements or more reps or more weight, or changing the time domains, but things like NEW CUTS, and now the athletes will need to push harder on that first day to "staay alive", or the fact that they may be doing movements with no grips/protective equipment when they haven't done specific movements without grips for a decent amount of time. We will see what the games brings. :)
Not me. I think she will podium but not win. If it didn’t rain last year on Alpaca then Lawson would have kept her distance above Horvath.
What? Laura would’ve crushed Alpaca. She can do weighted seated legless rope climbs. Her margin of victory would’ve been even larger.
@@CruJones81 She did crush it though. So it could have only impacted the other way. No one will know
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This sounds very Fixed Mindset
Laura hasn't displayed she has what it takes physically to win the games so she'll just be a podium athlete at best. DB is extremely good but she doesn't have the mental fortitude to win yet. Personally I see Annie T winning this year because of her elite physical abilities and mental maturity.
Laura won Rogue pretty convincingly. She’s an absolute beast.
I could see Annie winning. I hope Katrin wins. Laura is program dependent.
I bet Medeiros loses this year.
Tia not being there in 2023 IS the best thing to happen
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So no deficit hspu, a 1rm snatch and clean, justin not even top 5, Laura wins... hmm
Kat wins this one
God I hope so. Seriously would be epic
She’s gotten stronger for sure. It’s going to be a good gauge for HWPO program validity.
Moving over to HWPO has certainly sparked a fire in her and a driven, hungry, having fun Katrin is dangerous.
@@calliecavalli82 agree…but looking at recent videos HWPO seems to just be Katrin and Hopper, almost deserted.
I knew something was “off” these past couple years when I started to question the passion and excitement crossfit had in the previous years. Low and behold when I hesitated taking the rose colored glasses off, here comes Andrew Hiller to explain what I couldn’t. Not all heroes wear capes, they spit facts & CrossFit 🫡