Thanks for the video, I'm strongly considering one of these. One gentle criticism of the video, that music made me think I was playing a Nintendo game. lol
Thanks for replying. I have owned both the Overlander and the Tread Overlander. I am happy to answer questions if you have any. And thanks for the feedback on the music.
@@mtnmnchronicles I appreciate that. I'm in Minnesota, actually headed out to the Black Hills in May I think I'm pretty well sold on the unit. Seems like a much better option for a 48 year old Toyota than the tablet I've been using
It has a learning curve, but I do like it better than a tablet with apps.. I still use Gaia to plan my routes and tracks, then move them to the Garmin for trip use. I find the Garmin intuitive to use and more rugged than a tablet.
@KBrogger When you head to the Black Hills, let me know. You will be passing through my town. If I am around I would be happy to meet you. Also, there are some great places to explore on the way.
@@mtnmnchronicles We'll be north a little on 14 when we come through. It's a short trip. Drive out Friday, trails Saturday/Sunday, drive home Monday. I'm driving a 76 Landcruiser, my buddy is driving an 82 Hilux. It's going to be a long day driving old junk. 😆
This is a serious video and commended effort went into producing it. While I do thank the producer profusely for his effort, the chosen background music is overly counter productive. I had to see the video in several pieces overtime, many of which watched several times to enjoy the video to its full potential. I reiterate my thanks. Regards.
My son and I just drove the Florida Adventure Trail (FAT) and our go to navigation tool was an Ipad mini loaded with ONX and the FAT mapping. We downloaded the map data beforehand as we expected to not have some cellular coverage (AT&T) in some areas and we were right. The IPAD was connected via hotspot on my son's IPhone. Worked perfectly - off line mapping kicked in whenever we lost cellular, the ONX subscription doesn't break the bank, one time purchase of the FAT was cheap, and we had an old IPAD mini so we didn't have to buy a dedicated device. Used a BULLET mounting system and had no complaints. We did talk about this GARMIN device for future trips (my son and his family love going off roading) but to be honest the price was the turn off. I would loan my son my Garmin i700 Montana if he goes out to more remote areas, we just activate a monthly subscription for the SOS function and cancel when he returns. I know this device has everything you would want but that's just it - it has it all so if it busts you could be up the creek with no paddle.
Thank you for your comment. I always appreciate people's input and thoughts. I used OnX and my Garmin this week on an adventure and had some challenges with OnX keeping on the trail. Also, it does not support turn-by-turn. But there are many things I found I liked about OnX too. I do agree with the purchase price; the tread can be pricey. Here is why I chose Garmin Tread. I used a Garmin Montana for years and then went to the Garmin 66I. I still own the 66I and use it when I hike or hunt. After 6 years, I decided to upgrade my GPS and Inreach. I almost purchased a 700I , but decided on the Tread because I wanted a dedicated Rig mounted device. IMO it is a personal preference there is wrong answer. For me personally, I did not like loading maps on ONX and Gaia, I do not have to do this on a Garmin. I wanted to be able to share maps and GPX’s files with people. You can not do this with OnX, but you can with Gaia. I wanted to lessen my dependency on multiple devices in my kit (one for InReach, the other for mapping). I have been a long-time Garmin user of Montana, Inreach Mini Vrs1, 66I, Garmin Overlander and now Tread. I have all my maps in Garmin Explorer on the Web and can easily share them. I understand the concern about all maps and everything on one device; It is a legitimate concern. The same can be said for using a Tablet for mapping, and I believe in redundancy. Therefore I keep paper maps of areas I travel to, and also use Mapping apps with a basic map function on my phone. My phone acts as a secondary device in case of a Garmin failure. That said I have never had a Garmin fail me. I have with Gaia and OnX where the maps did not load correctly or I missed a portion of the map because of an unplanned detour. I believe people have choices, and there is no wrong choice for each individual. If OnX works for you and your son, then that would be great. It is a great tool, there are things I like about it. What is important is that you are out there exploring and enjoying the experience. I appreciate your comments and thoughts. Paul
I just got an used Overlander (not tread) at $150, i will use it as backup navigation device when there is no cellular service. Actually using iPad (with cellular otherwise no GPS chip) is a good option, we installed tomtom offline app on an iPad mini2 and spent over one week in Yellowstone 10 years ago, no complaints at all. But now all this offline GPS apps are gone or died, even Garmin had iPhone and Android offline navigation apps before, it quits and starts to build its own tablets and sell them at sky high price.
@ We just returned from Alaska and used the following for navigation - iPhone running Apple Maps, my truck nav system, and an IPad Mini hotspot connected to my iPhone running ONX.. As you may imagine, the start of each day was a bit slow as I had to get all three devices working. I eventually stopped the hotspot and connected the IPAD mini via Bluetooth to my Garmin i700 Montana and that arrangement easily handled ONX., ONX was great along the Denali Highway to find boondocks sites. Otherwise, I didn’t see much sense in running it. There were days that all three gave conflicting guidance and that was puzzling, especially as we were towing a small travel trailer.
Great video Paul. I have a question about the speed and notifications while driving. My Overlander would show the speed limit, (which I see the Tread does) and also give you an audio tone and visual notification when the speed limit was about to decrease. Also, the speed box would turn red if you went above the speed limit. Does the Tread do this? I found this to be very helpful while traveling. Thanks
Thank you. Yes, it shows the speed, and turns red when you are exceeding the limit. Additionally, it give warnings for road hazards and conditions. Example being curves, steep hills. It does not give an audible warning, as far as I can find. Thank you again
I did additional research this morning. I stand corrected. The alerts are available. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-157A2412-594F-45D8-A5EE-5A5327DA0914/EN-GB/GUID-E2A9F5DC-493F-48B9-9B96-46FE811AC624.html&ved=2ahUKEwibjubqs4iGAxV_JzQIHcY6A2YQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2ju12pdrfA9ZP3mXXxD0Tl
I have the XL and its huge! Maybe too huge, But it was on sale at $800 off - so cheaper than the smaller versions. I don't really like window holding system and mine can only plug into the cigarette lighter plug which seems odd - again I would prefer if was went to a USB.
I am not sure what vehicle you have, but you can use a ram mout or equivalent to .kunt it. Also Garmin had a 12 volt direct wire kit to free up your cig plug
Thank you for your reply. It was not in adventure mode. This seems to have gotten better in other adventures, but still is happening enough to cause concern.
Thanks for the video, I'm strongly considering one of these. One gentle criticism of the video, that music made me think I was playing a Nintendo game. lol
Thanks for replying. I have owned both the Overlander and the Tread Overlander. I am happy to answer questions if you have any.
And thanks for the feedback on the music.
@@mtnmnchronicles I appreciate that. I'm in Minnesota, actually headed out to the Black Hills in May
I think I'm pretty well sold on the unit. Seems like a much better option for a 48 year old Toyota than the tablet I've been using
It has a learning curve, but I do like it better than a tablet with apps.. I still use Gaia to plan my routes and tracks, then move them to the Garmin for trip use. I find the Garmin intuitive to use and more rugged than a tablet.
@KBrogger When you head to the Black Hills, let me know. You will be passing through my town. If I am around I would be happy to meet you. Also, there are some great places to explore on the way.
@@mtnmnchronicles We'll be north a little on 14 when we come through. It's a short trip. Drive out Friday, trails Saturday/Sunday, drive home Monday. I'm driving a 76 Landcruiser, my buddy is driving an 82 Hilux. It's going to be a long day driving old junk. 😆
I’m sorry I couldn’t watch the full video…. Seems to be very informative But Back ground music just became way too annoying.
Thanks. I am working on fixing it
This is a serious video and commended effort went into producing it. While I do thank the producer profusely for his effort, the chosen background music is overly counter productive. I had to see the video in several pieces overtime, many of which watched several times to enjoy the video to its full potential. I reiterate my thanks. Regards.
I agree. I am working on finding better background music to use.
My son and I just drove the Florida Adventure Trail (FAT) and our go to navigation tool was an Ipad mini loaded with ONX and the FAT mapping. We downloaded the map data beforehand as we expected to not have some cellular coverage (AT&T) in some areas and we were right. The IPAD was connected via hotspot on my son's IPhone. Worked perfectly - off line mapping kicked in whenever we lost cellular, the ONX subscription doesn't break the bank, one time purchase of the FAT was cheap, and we had an old IPAD mini so we didn't have to buy a dedicated device. Used a BULLET mounting system and had no complaints. We did talk about this GARMIN device for future trips (my son and his family love going off roading) but to be honest the price was the turn off. I would loan my son my Garmin i700 Montana if he goes out to more remote areas, we just activate a monthly subscription for the SOS function and cancel when he returns. I know this device has everything you would want but that's just it - it has it all so if it busts you could be up the creek with no paddle.
Thank you for your comment. I always appreciate people's input and thoughts.
I used OnX and my Garmin this week on an adventure and had some challenges with OnX keeping on the trail. Also, it does not support turn-by-turn. But there are many things I found I liked about OnX too. I do agree with the purchase price; the tread can be pricey.
Here is why I chose Garmin Tread. I used a Garmin Montana for years and then went to the Garmin 66I. I still own the 66I and use it when I hike or hunt. After 6 years, I decided to upgrade my GPS and Inreach. I almost purchased a 700I , but decided on the Tread because I wanted a dedicated Rig mounted device.
IMO it is a personal preference there is wrong answer. For me personally, I did not like loading maps on ONX and Gaia, I do not have to do this on a Garmin. I wanted to be able to share maps and GPX’s files with people. You can not do this with OnX, but you can with Gaia.
I wanted to lessen my dependency on multiple devices in my kit (one for InReach, the other for mapping). I have been a long-time Garmin user of Montana, Inreach Mini Vrs1, 66I, Garmin Overlander and now Tread. I have all my maps in Garmin Explorer on the Web and can easily share them.
I understand the concern about all maps and everything on one device; It is a legitimate concern. The same can be said for using a Tablet for mapping, and I believe in redundancy. Therefore I keep paper maps of areas I travel to, and also use Mapping apps with a basic map function on my phone. My phone acts as a secondary device in case of a Garmin failure. That said I have never had a Garmin fail me. I have with Gaia and OnX where the maps did not load correctly or I missed a portion of the map because of an unplanned detour.
I believe people have choices, and there is no wrong choice for each individual. If OnX works for you and your son, then that would be great. It is a great tool, there are things I like about it. What is important is that you are out there exploring and enjoying the experience.
I appreciate your comments and thoughts.
Paul
I just got an used Overlander (not tread) at $150, i will use it as backup navigation device when there is no cellular service.
Actually using iPad (with cellular otherwise no GPS chip) is a good option, we installed tomtom offline app on an iPad mini2 and spent over one week in Yellowstone 10 years ago, no complaints at all. But now all this offline GPS apps are gone or died, even Garmin had iPhone and Android offline navigation apps before, it quits and starts to build its own tablets and sell them at sky high price.
@ We just returned from Alaska and used the following for navigation - iPhone running Apple Maps, my truck nav system, and an IPad Mini hotspot connected to my iPhone running ONX.. As you may imagine, the start of each day was a bit slow as I had to get all three devices working. I eventually stopped the hotspot and connected the IPAD mini via Bluetooth to my Garmin i700 Montana and that arrangement easily handled ONX., ONX was great along the Denali Highway to find boondocks sites. Otherwise, I didn’t see much sense in running it. There were days that all three gave conflicting guidance and that was puzzling, especially as we were towing a small travel trailer.
Great video Paul. I have a question about the speed and notifications while driving. My Overlander would show the speed limit, (which I see the Tread does) and also give you an audio tone and visual notification when the speed limit was about to decrease. Also, the speed box would turn red if you went above the speed limit. Does the Tread do this? I found this to be very helpful while traveling. Thanks
Thank you. Yes, it shows the speed, and turns red when you are exceeding the limit. Additionally, it give warnings for road hazards and conditions. Example being curves, steep hills.
It does not give an audible warning, as far as I can find.
Thank you again
I did additional research this morning. I stand corrected. The alerts are available.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-157A2412-594F-45D8-A5EE-5A5327DA0914/EN-GB/GUID-E2A9F5DC-493F-48B9-9B96-46FE811AC624.html&ved=2ahUKEwibjubqs4iGAxV_JzQIHcY6A2YQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2ju12pdrfA9ZP3mXXxD0Tl
Much appreciated Paul
I have the XL and its huge! Maybe too huge, But it was on sale at $800 off - so cheaper than the smaller versions. I don't really like window holding system and mine can only plug into the cigarette lighter plug which seems odd - again I would prefer if was went to a USB.
I am not sure what vehicle you have, but you can use a ram mout or equivalent to .kunt it. Also Garmin had a 12 volt direct wire kit to free up your cig plug
I think the reason its routing you on backroads is because you chose adventure mode.
Thank you for your reply. It was not in adventure mode. This seems to have gotten better in other adventures, but still is happening enough to cause concern.
The damn stupid music makes this unmatchable
Sorry