This is terrific information Jim. Saves me owning a boat I can't sail (except on paper and in my mind. Amazing what you can learn from RUclips and apply, (learn how to sail before you buy a boat, you will never make money on it...) and how much you can learn, and if you don't have years of experience learning things, there's a lot you won't be able to apply. I can watch someone scrape and repaint a hull and know how to do it at least as well as he or she, can. I can watch ice skaters pirouette and sailors tacking every day for a month and never be able to do either one of them. (As a sea kayaker I was curious if just by what I learned in the books and videos, Eskimo roll a kayak. Not a chance, and yet it's actually quite simple, and I'm a good learner. Rolling a kayak if you don't know is the easiest thing in the world to do - if done correctly. Done wrong and no amount of strength or effort will bring you back up.) Looking at all the 30 foot plus boats thinking, in a couple of years I can afford one of those..... Well. So what. Parked in your yard? Sure. Actually sailing it? So it's not whether I want a blue water boat or a swing keel, or tiller, one wheel or two.... It would be wrong to own a sailboat and not sail it. Sort of like having a dog and never going for walks.
thanks for the reality slap in the face! I too was going to buy the boat first and then learn to sail. Think I will take your advice and find a boat club. thanks
Funny story. November 2020 I drove to Bellingham, Wa from New Mexico and bought an Ericson 32 sailboat from Craigslist. Put it in dry storage and went back to work. May 1st my contract ended, went back to Bellingham. Got the boat ready and left for Alaska on June 2nd. The funny part of all this is I had no boating or sailing experience. Unless you count kayaking. I was able to do a few hours of sail instruction in one day. Many people told me I shouldn't do it. Lots of things happened, nothing that I couldn't handle. Honestly wasn't a big deal. But also not the first adventure I've ever done. Sold the boat up there and another adventure began after that. Currently I'm tempted by a 1986 Cat 22 in what appears to be very nice condition. They want $6500. I'll get another big boat later for a circumnavigation but I have a couple more adventures before that!
Thank you very much for the advice, Jim! I am planning on owning a sailboat someday, and I will surely keep all the information you shared in mind. Happy sailing!
This was awesome! I used to sail a 16’ catamaran about 20 yrs ago. I’ve ALWAYS loved sailing. I’m now 57 and ready to buy a small monohull, as I NEED it for my soul! I remember hitting that “groove” when sailing my cat, and oh what an awesome feeling…you actually hear that “whistle” in the wind. How I miss that feeling. Looking at the Cat 22, and hope to be sailing by late Spring. I enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing! May you always have fair winds❤
I don't know what boats you are considering, Donna, but a Catalina 22 is good for people in their late 50's early 60's. It is sea-kindly and steady, if you carry enough sail, it can give you a few thrills too. I dropped out of sailing for 30 years and,. after a lot of research, decided the C22 would work best for me. Good boats come cheap and parts are easy to find.
Absolutely, positively accurate. Started with an '82 for 2 years. 2013 got a really good '84 and I'm right where you are on expenses. You've about talked me into spending my Covid check for the Rudder Craft Rudder. I also have a simrad tiller pilot. Best crew and never asks, "Why?" We keep her in the water, Palmetto Creek, Perdido Beach, Alabama. About twice a year sail as far east as Navarre, FL. Lots of good sailing around here. Thanks for all your videos and for sharing your expertise.
Excellent video! I’m your newest subscriber. First time buyers just don’t realize....a boat = capital depreciation. No way around it. The other point you made is make sure you can spend at least 80% of the cost of the boat for fixes, upgrades and ignored maintenance by the prior owner.
I sold my boat back in June. Had $14000 into it--sold for $5300--But Tony and I had some great videos of our times on the water. I highly recommend Playing the Puffs.
I'm gonna go for it, I have never had a boat without one. I'm even getting better at remembering to re-install it if you know what I mean. Just learned about the clutch break in the winch, neat ! BTW - any boater who prioritizes been holder location - is A number 1 in my log book !
I will share my pain, lol! We bought an Oday 25, it was floating at the marina, what could be wrong? It looked great and it was so hot outside going below was killer, July in Florida. We sailed it a few years and I noticed many issues, rot ! As I repaired things in progressed to the point where the boat had to come out of the water. I bought a trailer , brought it home , worked on it three years as I could. I stayed pissed off a lot . This was not my plan , I wanted liesure recreation not a damn job! Boat is almost done now, people are going to laugh at what I spent, I do. I should have bought another boat years ago . I didn't want to loose the investment , but it kept growing as I repaired the boat. Here is a break down of cost . Initial boat cost $5k, new sails and roller fuller $3k, trailer $3.6k,marine head an tank $1.5k,marine ply and interior wood $1.5 k, 20 gallons of epoxy and two hundred pounds of fiberglass plus coosa and corecell $3k,new outboard mount and standing rigging and running rigging and ground tackle and paint and all necc. Things to bring it all together $2.5k. Grand total about $20k for an Oday 25 ! Never again! It is in great shape now but no way to recoup the money if I sold it to upsize to a bigger boat. I view this as a lesson learned.
The way I look at these things, Bull, is the first sail will cost you 25 thou. The second will be a more affordable 12.5 K. By the time you have taken the boat out 1000 times, you are down to 25 bucks a sail--plus of course annual maintenance. But then I am the only guy I know that calculated I was getting a good deal on my time share if I stayed there more than 7.2 times.
Hi Jim great Video. I’m about your age been sailing most of my life. Now days I like a smaller boat. I have a Neptune 16 much easier to launch and keep on a trailer. I sail with friends who have there own boats we take pic of each other. Cost are little less and we don’t have Catalina direct but we keep them sailing. Groove on
Amazing video, thanks for sharing. I am converting my 16" canoe to a sail canoe right now and am 75% done. I considered quitting the conversion and getting a Catalina 22 since they are pretty inexpensive in Florida. I now know this is a bad idea. I will finish the conversion, learn to sail on some big lakes in the area and then know if the 22 is the right choice. Again thanks for the insights!
Working on a 1975 Catalina 22 I got for $300! The inside was full of mildew and bilge water bit I’ve been cleaning it out and it’s looking good, repainting the inside, fixing all the electrical, buying a motor and a jib I might actually be able to sell it for a profit!
Hey Jim new subscriber great channel you got I've been trying to get into sailing and found your channel that way i keep seeing Cat 22's for sale in my area and wanted more information about them thanks for the great content.
Thanks for watching Mr. Shua. Yesterday, I was trying to make a list of the 20-footers made in the 70's. Right now I am at 11, but I am thinking it will be more like 20 when I finish. Of the 11 I think Catalina 22, McGregor/Venture, or O'Day would be the way to go. Obviously I favor the C22 for ease of maintenance and availability of parts.
thank you so much for this honest insight, but for me sir, it is in my blood to be by the sea with the sea of the sea, i really love this kind of videos, very helpful, makes me dream of actually havin 1, my side of the story is we are more of a traditional sailors if you will,,,, again thank you much for this,,, still reachin for that dream
I haven't sailed in 18 years. I went to/worked at a summer camp on Georgian Bay from the time I was 12 to 22. The camp had a rough fleet consisting of Sunfish, CL, Snipe, and my favorite Lightnings, they were 19' I am guessing I will be a bit disoriented when I get on my C22 but I have not forgotten how to sail. Hopefully!
This video is the real deal. I have a 1986 Catalina 22, bought for only $850. Bargain, right? Had to put at least $6,000 into it to make it nice. Still need another couple grand for new sails and a bimini. Figure a total cost of $8,000 for a perfect boat. (Parking at the marina costs $1,500/year.) Hours and hours of work over 2-3 years, which I enjoyed but you might not. Would be extremely lucky if I could sell it for $4,000. As in, probably wishful thinking. However, I absolutely love it and it makes me happy.
There is the tour video, which is the first or second one I made. I would do it differently now that I have made a few. I am kind of thinking about a video on how to look at a boat you want to buy. I got lucky mine was a keeper, but now I know more.
Jim's Little Boat I’m looking at a cat 22 for only $1500 the only thing I’m skeptical about is the keel , it’s got rust on it but is it fixable? And yes that video would be very helpful
@@starlord1177 anything is fixable if you put in the time. I bought a cat22 that needs lots of work because I want to learn how to work on it. I will recommend, if you have the money buy a boat In sailing condition because fixing the boat is really time consuming and expensive.. (but it is what I wanted)
I just bought an 85 Tanzer 22 and still looking for available moorings up here in RI. All marinas are all full. The harbor masters are telling me that during the pandemic, everyone bought a boat. I suppose one option is to just continually cruise from now on...
paint job? wet sand it with 1000 1500 and 2000 girt then compound and wax it will look like brand new. I would never paint a gelcoat boat or buy one! its a dangerous road because then it will need to be repainted in the future small dings and repairs are alot more difficult etc etc. cut buff and wax! it actually goes a lot faster than you might think.
Boats like any other hobby cost money. I don't get why people get so upset and always make comments on the cost of boats. Someone could say the same for video games. or horses, or motorcycles, or photography, or airplanes, or jeeps or virtually any other hobby. Please note this is a random comment, not talking about Jim here. He's just explaining cost, not complaining.
Gosh, I don't know about model numbers. I just called Ruddercraft and told them what year boat I have and what diameter gudgeons & pintles. They asked me a question or two; they weren't interested in the spacing--they did ask me if it was stock. A couple of weeks later the rudder showed up on my front porch. Pretty easy process. I should have ordered from Catalina Direct because I am pretty sure I paid the same retail price, and I want to make sure CD stays in business.
@@jimslittleboat4388 my rudder still in good shape, but there's always a space for improvement ! I checked out their website - they look freaking awesome, not sure tho if I'm ready to spend at least 650 to replace something what works 🤣🤣
It's the old sayin," A boat is a whole in the water that you throw money into." You need another reason to buy it, such as fishing, skiing, or you just want to sale. This is real cool though. People need to know how much it costs before they start or they'll be REAL upset after buying. I just like living vicariously through the sailing of others.
B.O.A.T. = (Break Out Another Thousand) I started with a brand new Catalina 18 in 1998. Lost money on the sale after three years. I then upgraded to a 1984 36 MKII Catalina. Loved it. But WOW the thousands added up quick. sold it two years later and lost a little bit of money. SO, if you want a boat, know what you want and stay with it. Oh, I did know how to sail by the way.
Just got a Catalina 22, needs lots of cleaning which means water in the hull. Evidently there are no drain holes in this hull except the cockpit drain into the thru hull at the centerboard. So I'm really tempted to drill that hole and install a high quality threaded drain plug, your thoughts Jim ? Thanks for the video.
Gosh Jay, I could not offer an opinion unless I could see your exact situation. I did add scuppers to the cockpit and that is a good idea. As for putting a hole somewhere else, I would be very reluctant to do that. You can do lots of cleaning with rags and a shop vac that picks up water. I use a spay bottle of Tile-X and lots of old towels.
I bought a used foot-operated bilge pump with a 12 long drain hose. It works great. I personally would never drill a hole in the bottom of my Catalina 22.
Sailing is an expensive hobby. It makes golf look very affordable. Consider this is a Catalina 22, an affordable boat. If you want to travel on the water cheap, go on a cruise ship.
I disagree about not buying a boat until you know how to sail. I haven't sailed yet and have enjoyed working on my boat. It's like working on a car but cheaper and easier and less broken knuckles. And yes I said cheaper. If you buy 'boat' stuff it's expensive. But if you need a chainplate, for example, and own a drill, you can make one for the price of a piece of scrap instead of paying hundreds for what is essentially just a piece of metal with a couple holes in it. It's kind of like renting a hall for an event. If you tell them it's for a wedding, it costs twice as much.
Everybody finds their own way. The Webbers (Barn Boat) bought a boat before they learned to sail, but...they had enough experience to know the trailer was worth more than they paid for the whole thing. AND they are ou8tdoorsy, AND they are handy. So for them it made good sense to buy the boat. The worst that could have happened it they would have sold it for a $1000 profit. But for more than 80% of the people, you should learn to sail then buy the boat. There is an almost endless supply of inexpensive, good, cheap boats out there.
@jimslittleboat4388 I guess I'm probably biased in the regard because I am a jack of all kind of person. I guess that's where experience comes in to form valid opinions that can apply to others. I'll just rephrase my comment to say, if you like working on stuff for fun, sailboats are awesome!
So what you’re saying is find someone willing to sell theirs for 5-6k in the same condition as yours all ready to go? Ha.. that’s rare and I think one like yours would sell within a day at that price
My boat is well found, but not fancy. It needs paint. I think I would be lucky to get $6000 for my $13000 boat. :) If my wife or kids are selling it, you can probably get it for 3.5. If it's up on blocks they will probably let it go for 2.
This is spot on! I bought a Catalina 22 for $4000, put $4000 into it and sold it for $4000! But loved it for the year I owned it!
Substantially less money than a dental implant and substantially more fun. :)
@@jimslittleboat4388 I’ll trade all my implants......any takers?...lol.
This is by far the Best video out there that covers all of the costs involved with sailboat ownership. Thank you for posting this very detailed video.
100% right! And sailing, like very few things in life touches the soul. Worth every penny!
This is terrific information Jim. Saves me owning a boat I can't sail (except on paper and in my mind. Amazing what you can learn from RUclips and apply, (learn how to sail before you buy a boat, you will never make money on it...) and how much you can learn, and if you don't have years of experience learning things, there's a lot you won't be able to apply. I can watch someone scrape and repaint a hull and know how to do it at least as well as he or she, can. I can watch ice skaters pirouette and sailors tacking every day for a month and never be able to do either one of them. (As a sea kayaker I was curious if just by what I learned in the books and videos, Eskimo roll a kayak. Not a chance, and yet it's actually quite simple, and I'm a good learner. Rolling a kayak if you don't know is the easiest thing in the world to do - if done correctly. Done wrong and no amount of strength or effort will bring you back up.)
Looking at all the 30 foot plus boats thinking, in a couple of years I can afford one of those..... Well. So what. Parked in your yard? Sure. Actually sailing it? So it's not whether I want a blue water boat or a swing keel, or tiller, one wheel or two.... It would be wrong to own a sailboat and not sail it. Sort of like having a dog and never going for walks.
thanks for the reality slap in the face! I too was going to buy the boat first and then learn to sail. Think I will take your advice and find a boat club. thanks
Funny story. November 2020 I drove to Bellingham, Wa from New Mexico and bought an Ericson 32 sailboat from Craigslist. Put it in dry storage and went back to work. May 1st my contract ended, went back to Bellingham. Got the boat ready and left for Alaska on June 2nd. The funny part of all this is I had no boating or sailing experience. Unless you count kayaking. I was able to do a few hours of sail instruction in one day. Many people told me I shouldn't do it. Lots of things happened, nothing that I couldn't handle. Honestly wasn't a big deal. But also not the first adventure I've ever done. Sold the boat up there and another adventure began after that. Currently I'm tempted by a 1986 Cat 22 in what appears to be very nice condition. They want $6500. I'll get another big boat later for a circumnavigation but I have a couple more adventures before that!
Truer words were never spoken.
Thank you very much for the advice, Jim! I am planning on owning a sailboat someday, and I will surely keep all the information you shared in mind. Happy sailing!
This was awesome! I used to sail a 16’ catamaran about 20 yrs ago. I’ve ALWAYS loved sailing. I’m now 57 and ready to buy a small monohull, as I NEED it for my soul! I remember hitting that “groove” when sailing my cat, and oh what an awesome feeling…you actually hear that “whistle” in the wind. How I miss that feeling. Looking at the Cat 22, and hope to be sailing by late Spring. I enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing! May you always have fair winds❤
I don't know what boats you are considering, Donna, but a Catalina 22 is good for people in their late 50's early 60's. It is sea-kindly and steady, if you carry enough sail, it can give you a few thrills too. I dropped out of sailing for 30 years and,. after a lot of research, decided the C22 would work best for me. Good boats come cheap and parts are easy to find.
Absolutely, positively accurate. Started with an '82 for 2 years. 2013 got a really good '84 and I'm right where you are on expenses. You've about talked me into spending my Covid check for the Rudder Craft Rudder. I also have a simrad tiller pilot. Best crew and never asks, "Why?" We keep her in the water, Palmetto Creek, Perdido Beach, Alabama. About twice a year sail as far east as Navarre, FL. Lots of good sailing around here. Thanks for all your videos and for sharing your expertise.
Really great presentation. Wealth of info in a short video. Much food for thought.
Excellent video!
I’m your newest subscriber.
First time buyers just don’t realize....a boat = capital depreciation. No way around it. The other point you made is make sure you can spend at least 80% of the cost of the boat for fixes, upgrades and ignored maintenance by the prior owner.
This is very helpful, much appreciated, will be checking out your other videos as I'm sure there's more good stuff in there.
I sold my boat back in June. Had $14000 into it--sold for $5300--But Tony and I had some great videos of our times on the water. I highly recommend Playing the Puffs.
Great information! We have been sailing a Sunflower sailboat for a couple years. We absolutely love it! We have sailed in AZ, WA, ID NE and FL.
You are the reason I bought my boat. Also you are why I bought a Catalina 22. (Capri 22). But nobody knows the difference
I hope it brings you as much pleasure as mine has brought me. Great little boats.
Very honest and clear explanation. Thank you!
I'm gonna go for it, I have never had a boat without one. I'm even getting better at remembering to re-install it if you know what I mean.
Just learned about the clutch break in the winch, neat !
BTW - any boater who prioritizes been holder location - is A number 1 in my log book !
Well, that puts an end to me ever buying a boat. Thanks!
It isn't for everybody--maybe crew for a friend and see if you change you mind.
@@jimslittleboat4388 it’s for me, it’s just not for my bank account.
Had 7 boats ; your are 100% on the points.
Great video, very informative, thanks.
So true. Its for the love of sailing in a comfortable seaworthy boat that doesn't take a shitload of money.
When you consider the costs of other vices, boats are downright cheap. :)
I will share my pain, lol! We bought an Oday 25, it was floating at the marina, what could be wrong? It looked great and it was so hot outside going below was killer, July in Florida. We sailed it a few years and I noticed many issues, rot ! As I repaired things in progressed to the point where the boat had to come out of the water. I bought a trailer , brought it home , worked on it three years as I could. I stayed pissed off a lot . This was not my plan , I wanted liesure recreation not a damn job! Boat is almost done now, people are going to laugh at what I spent, I do. I should have bought another boat years ago . I didn't want to loose the investment , but it kept growing as I repaired the boat. Here is a break down of cost . Initial boat cost $5k, new sails and roller fuller $3k, trailer $3.6k,marine head an tank $1.5k,marine ply and interior wood $1.5 k, 20 gallons of epoxy and two hundred pounds of fiberglass plus coosa and corecell $3k,new outboard mount and standing rigging and running rigging and ground tackle and paint and all necc. Things to bring it all together $2.5k. Grand total about $20k for an Oday 25 ! Never again! It is in great shape now but no way to recoup the money if I sold it to upsize to a bigger boat. I view this as a lesson learned.
The way I look at these things, Bull, is the first sail will cost you 25 thou. The second will be a more affordable 12.5 K. By the time you have taken the boat out 1000 times, you are down to 25 bucks a sail--plus of course annual maintenance. But then I am the only guy I know that calculated I was getting a good deal on my time share if I stayed there more than 7.2 times.
There is wisdom in Your words.
@@jimslittleboat4388 That is the (only) way pilots justify owning airplanes.
Precision makes great sense
Hi Jim great Video. I’m about your age been sailing most of my life. Now days I like a smaller boat. I have a Neptune 16 much easier to launch and keep on a trailer. I sail with friends who have there own boats we take pic of each other. Cost are little less and we don’t have Catalina direct but we keep them sailing. Groove on
I had a Tanzer 16. Loved that boat.
Hahaha great video Jim, thanks for your honesty 👍🏻. Glad you've still got enough money to waste on all that nice printed paper 🤣
Amazing video, thanks for sharing. I am converting my 16" canoe to a sail canoe right now and am 75% done. I considered quitting the conversion and getting a Catalina 22 since they are pretty inexpensive in Florida. I now know this is a bad idea. I will finish the conversion, learn to sail on some big lakes in the area and then know if the 22 is the right choice. Again thanks for the insights!
I was the recipient of one of those 'free' catalina 22's. I have at least as much money in mine as you do in yours that you purchased.
Working on a 1975 Catalina 22 I got for $300! The inside was full of mildew and bilge water bit I’ve been cleaning it out and it’s looking good, repainting the inside, fixing all the electrical, buying a motor and a jib I might actually be able to sell it for a profit!
Good luck. It has been done, not often, but it has been done.
Hey Jim new subscriber great channel you got I've been trying to get into sailing and found your channel that way i keep seeing Cat 22's for sale in my area and wanted more information about them thanks for the great content.
Thanks for watching Mr. Shua. Yesterday, I was trying to make a list of the 20-footers made in the 70's. Right now I am at 11, but I am thinking it will be more like 20 when I finish. Of the 11 I think Catalina 22, McGregor/Venture, or O'Day would be the way to go. Obviously I favor the C22 for ease of maintenance and availability of parts.
Oh my god. Use dots and commas please.
Great video! You communicate very well!
Good overview...yep...got to pay to play! Very much worth it for me. Also - dont forget insurance every year!!
thank you so much for this honest insight, but for me sir, it is in my blood to be by the sea with the sea of the sea, i really love this kind of videos, very helpful, makes me dream of actually havin 1, my side of the story is we are more of a traditional sailors if you will,,,, again thank you much for this,,, still reachin for that dream
Good points!
You guys are of course an exception to the don't buy rule. You two are doing it well. jim
Awesome video. You are a gifted presenter.
What is so different about the Rudder Craft rudder?
I haven't sailed in 18 years. I went to/worked at a summer camp on Georgian Bay from the time I was 12 to 22. The camp had a rough fleet consisting of Sunfish, CL, Snipe, and my favorite Lightnings, they were 19'
I am guessing I will be a bit disoriented when I get on my C22 but I have not forgotten how to sail. Hopefully!
I took a 30-year break in sailing. 'When I came back to it, I was surprised at how much I remembered, and how little I forgot.
Thanks Jim now I can stop dreaming of a boat
Eh, probably not. Now you have a little more information so might dream in a more practical way. :)
This video is the real deal. I have a 1986 Catalina 22, bought for only $850. Bargain, right? Had to put at least $6,000 into it to make it nice. Still need another couple grand for new sails and a bimini. Figure a total cost of $8,000 for a perfect boat. (Parking at the marina costs $1,500/year.) Hours and hours of work over 2-3 years, which I enjoyed but you might not. Would be extremely lucky if I could sell it for $4,000. As in, probably wishful thinking. However, I absolutely love it and it makes me happy.
And that, Matt, is the essence of owning a boat. Congratulations. jim
Is there a link to the Rudder and was your original a folding rudder and is the new Rudder a folding rudder?
Hey Jim! You should do a boat tour haha👍👍
There is the tour video, which is the first or second one I made. I would do it differently now that I have made a few. I am kind of thinking about a video on how to look at a boat you want to buy. I got lucky mine was a keeper, but now I know more.
Jim's Little Boat I’m looking at a cat 22 for only $1500 the only thing I’m skeptical about is the keel , it’s got rust on it but is it fixable? And yes that video would be very helpful
@@starlord1177 anything is fixable if you put in the time. I bought a cat22 that needs lots of work because I want to learn how to work on it. I will recommend, if you have the money buy a boat In sailing condition because fixing the boat is really time consuming and expensive.. (but it is what I wanted)
Fantastic
I just bought an 85 Tanzer 22 and still looking for available moorings up here in RI. All marinas are all full. The harbor masters are telling me that during the pandemic, everyone bought a boat. I suppose one option is to just continually cruise from now on...
I prefer to do my over-nighters in a hotel -- day sail from place to place. Its an old guy thing ;)
paint job? wet sand it with 1000 1500 and 2000 girt then compound and wax it will look like brand new. I would never paint a gelcoat boat or buy one! its a dangerous road because then it will need to be repainted in the future small dings and repairs are alot more difficult etc etc. cut buff and wax! it actually goes a lot faster than you might think.
Can you elaborate on this? If not "Gelcoat boat" then what are you sanding down, and down to? Thanks
Boats like any other hobby cost money. I don't get why people get so upset and always make comments on the cost of boats. Someone could say the same for video games. or horses, or motorcycles, or photography, or airplanes, or jeeps or virtually any other hobby. Please note this is a random comment, not talking about Jim here. He's just explaining cost, not complaining.
Great video ! Which rudder did you get ? I've got 87 C22
Gosh, I don't know about model numbers. I just called Ruddercraft and told them what year boat I have and what diameter gudgeons & pintles. They asked me a question or two; they weren't interested in the spacing--they did ask me if it was stock. A couple of weeks later the rudder showed up on my front porch. Pretty easy process. I should have ordered from Catalina Direct because I am pretty sure I paid the same retail price, and I want to make sure CD stays in business.
@@jimslittleboat4388 my rudder still in good shape, but there's always a space for improvement ! I checked out their website - they look freaking awesome, not sure tho if I'm ready to spend at least 650 to replace something what works 🤣🤣
Same thing here 😂 👍
It's the old sayin," A boat is a whole in the water that you throw money into." You need another reason to buy it, such as fishing, skiing, or you just want to sale. This is real cool though. People need to know how much it costs before they start or they'll be REAL upset after buying. I just like living vicariously through the sailing of others.
I am about 13 grand into a 4500 dollar boat. Money well spent. :)
Well, at least his honest. I'll stick to the sax...SO MUCH FOR SAILING!
B.O.A.T. = (Break Out Another Thousand) I started with a brand new Catalina 18 in 1998. Lost money on the sale after three years. I then upgraded to a 1984 36 MKII Catalina. Loved it. But WOW the thousands added up quick. sold it two years later and lost a little bit of money. SO, if you want a boat, know what you want and stay with it. Oh, I did know how to sail by the way.
So now you're boat free?
jahhmin no. I just purchased a 1992 precision 15. It was “affordable” and easily sailed solo.
Just got a Catalina 22, needs lots of cleaning which means water in the hull. Evidently there are no drain holes in this hull except the cockpit drain into the thru hull at the centerboard.
So I'm really tempted to drill that hole and install a high quality threaded drain plug, your thoughts Jim ?
Thanks for the video.
Gosh Jay, I could not offer an opinion unless I could see your exact situation. I did add scuppers to the cockpit and that is a good idea. As for putting a hole somewhere else, I would be very reluctant to do that. You can do lots of cleaning with rags and a shop vac that picks up water. I use a spay bottle of Tile-X and lots of old towels.
I bought a used foot-operated bilge pump with a 12 long drain hose. It works great. I personally would never drill a hole in the bottom of my Catalina 22.
Sailing is an expensive hobby. It makes golf look very affordable. Consider this is a Catalina 22, an affordable boat. If you want to travel on the water cheap, go on a cruise ship.
I disagree about not buying a boat until you know how to sail. I haven't sailed yet and have enjoyed working on my boat. It's like working on a car but cheaper and easier and less broken knuckles. And yes I said cheaper. If you buy 'boat' stuff it's expensive. But if you need a chainplate, for example, and own a drill, you can make one for the price of a piece of scrap instead of paying hundreds for what is essentially just a piece of metal with a couple holes in it. It's kind of like renting a hall for an event. If you tell them it's for a wedding, it costs twice as much.
Everybody finds their own way. The Webbers (Barn Boat) bought a boat before they learned to sail, but...they had enough experience to know the trailer was worth more than they paid for the whole thing. AND they are ou8tdoorsy, AND they are handy. So for them it made good sense to buy the boat. The worst that could have happened it they would have sold it for a $1000 profit. But for more than 80% of the people, you should learn to sail then buy the boat. There is an almost endless supply of inexpensive, good, cheap boats out there.
@jimslittleboat4388 I guess I'm probably biased in the regard because I am a jack of all kind of person. I guess that's where experience comes in to form valid opinions that can apply to others. I'll just rephrase my comment to say, if you like working on stuff for fun, sailboats are awesome!
I’d buy it for 6k!!!
I was thinking the same thing🤣🤣‼️
I've made money on 2 boats ...not a lot but enough
I have made a few dollars too. But mostly off the trailers. :)
So what you’re saying is find someone willing to sell theirs for 5-6k in the same condition as yours all ready to go? Ha.. that’s rare and I think one like yours would sell within a day at that price
My boat is well found, but not fancy. It needs paint. I think I would be lucky to get $6000 for my $13000 boat. :) If my wife or kids are selling it, you can probably get it for 3.5. If it's up on blocks they will probably let it go for 2.