Why did so Many Old School Exercises go Extinct?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024

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  • @NRRLavallee
    @NRRLavallee 6 месяцев назад +29

    The art in dinotopia is so sick.

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +2

      Dude, James Gurney is the GOAT

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 6 месяцев назад

      Totally agree loved that book.​@@atlaspowershrugged what do you think about the descriptions of gladiators during the Roman empire? There's lots of depictions of them and they are pretty common street art....not like super fancy or made for higher nobility ....I just wonder if we actually have reached our limit....for natties....I just wonder if weve been held back by chemicals in our diets and common materials...

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@atlaspowershruggedalso would you be willing to do a video on the steve Reeves shrug? He claimed it widened the shoulders....idk what possibilities lie in it

  • @normanquednau
    @normanquednau 6 месяцев назад +4

    We must consider the apparition of the Nautilus-machine. It was the birth of the normal "fitness-gym".

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +5

      The introduction of nautilus machines and its conseque- you know what, nevermind.

  • @infinitejinpachi
    @infinitejinpachi 6 месяцев назад +6

    I follow Dinosaur channels as well, so I glanced at the thumbnail and clicked the video expecting to hear about some new Therapod discovery
    The absolute whiplash when oddliftman came on

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +1

      Little bit of clickbait, but I hope you didn't regret it!

  • @joeldoxtator9804
    @joeldoxtator9804 6 месяцев назад +7

    I would say it is largely because of Arthur Jones and Nautilus.
    The man was a marketing genius and even funded studies to promote his equipment.
    Since in the 1970, no one had any way of cross checking information, everyone took it as fact and all jumped on the nautilus band wagon.
    This also lead to the vast increase of exercise related injuries, which is a direct correlation to this trend.
    You cannot remove body bracing from exercises and expect the body to remain healthy.
    I would say it wasn't until the late 2000's that the machine only approach was really broken due to the internet.
    Having been to gyms in the late 90's to early 2000's I can tell you, machine were just what you did if you went to a gym back then.
    The barbells were almost seen as a niche thing for weirdos.

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +7

      One of the worst people in the history of fitness.

    • @impaledface7694
      @impaledface7694 6 месяцев назад +4

      I was thinking the exact same thing. Reminds me of that era focusing on "things of the future" like tv dinners, nuclear power, and I guess nautilus weight training machines instead of the ole' metal stick+plates.

    • @anthonyagureyev307
      @anthonyagureyev307 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@impaledface7694Boomers and Gen Xers really dropped the ball on many things...

  • @evilryutaropro
    @evilryutaropro 6 месяцев назад +15

    The creation of anabolic steroids and it’s consequences…

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +15

      Have been a disaster for this surrogate activity!

    • @liamburns8554
      @liamburns8554 Месяц назад

      Which seems to be the basis of most of his videos

  • @SpiritualHypertrophy
    @SpiritualHypertrophy Месяц назад

    It’s cool to live in this era where information technology makes it possible to share these once extinct lifts. It goes to show that when you can post a video about old school lift extinction, but also include the story of Crylophosaurus, it’s possible to explain for to do something like a bent press through a video.

  • @Winterascent
    @Winterascent 6 месяцев назад +29

    Really, the Golden Era was the Bronze Era, and what most call the Golden Era was the Bronze Era, before we just turned to the Mass Era of pure PED.

    • @josephperkins4857
      @josephperkins4857 6 месяцев назад +2

      I disagree,the golden age was called because everyone was obsessed with working out

    • @tonymontana3949
      @tonymontana3949 6 месяцев назад +3

      before roids and etc thinhs all was better

    • @arandomzoomer4837
      @arandomzoomer4837 4 месяца назад +1

      It seems like these exercises were still alive and well into the 1950s so maybe it's fair to call the bronze era the silver era and the silver era the gold era.
      The gold era is the diamond era. As in, diamonds look very valuable and shiny but the easiest way to make big beautiful shiny diamonds is synthetically, and unlike gold or silver, diamonds can be burned down into meaningless CO2.
      Perhaps then the diamond era has been around far longer than suggested, from the 1960s to the 2010s when the noble natty movement started to find its origins.
      Then our modern era is the kintsugi era. Since kintsugi is the art of taking a piece of broken pottery and mending it to make it more beautiful than it was before it was broken. We will revitalize the ancient knowledge and add our modern advances in training into the mix to create a new, reformed, and incredible piece of art.

  • @notoriousgeg
    @notoriousgeg 5 месяцев назад +1

    You missed the standardisation of equipment, especially single exercise machines. It ties into your other great points - they're super easy to use and cover a lot of bases. A lot of odd lifts were invented to target areas that are hard to with basic equipment. If you can isolate every muscle with it's own simple to use machine, why bother with complexity? but unknowingly you lose the odd lifts benefits. Also with the explosion of commercial gyms, the people running those businesses have it on easy mode if they just buy all the isolation machines. Love the dinosaur analogy and super cool Antarctic dino!

  • @WarriorFromV4LH4LL4
    @WarriorFromV4LH4LL4 6 месяцев назад +2

    Came for the old-school lifts, stayed for the lecture on dinosaurs 🦕

  • @tranecrothers1148
    @tranecrothers1148 6 месяцев назад +3

    I think you’re spot on about it being roids. As a person who’s lifted naturally since I was 12 than at 22 I cycled for about a year than tore my shoulder and been natural for the last 7 years. Having first hand experience juicing not only the injury factor, but steroids essentially don’t make you stronger they give you superhuman recovery, volume tolerance, and total change the “pump”. I did my first cycle lifting like a powerlifter and I got way stronger built a lot of muscle but once I started doing just a fuckload of junk volume, supersets, drop sets. I put on like 30 pounds in my last 4 months of being unatural. Steroids just totally change the way you can build mass and really incentives the bullshit work outs modern ifbbs do now. Needles to say now that I’m natural again I’m all about the bent presses again lol. Great stuff bro just thought I’d add my personal experience

  • @gardskindle4249
    @gardskindle4249 6 месяцев назад +4

    Very interesting, I wished I lifted in a place with more old fashioned or different lifts. I have really enjoyed incorporating Jefferson curls (and zerchers)

  • @linklinksson6885
    @linklinksson6885 6 месяцев назад +3

    Stayed for the dinosaurs

  • @josephperkins4857
    @josephperkins4857 6 месяцев назад +8

    Can you do a video on your views on the old Bronze era idea of daily exercise and lifting that many of the old timers promoted and even did use themselves?

    • @virding232
      @virding232 6 месяцев назад +2

      Echoing this.

    • @BuJammy
      @BuJammy 6 месяцев назад +1

      I don't know when that changed. Thomas Inch said that, in the 20s, training once a week was most common.

    • @thebiggestpanda1
      @thebiggestpanda1 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BuJammythat’s probably because most people did manual labor and had less access to food. Once a week was what they could do.

    • @tomlucasrccrawlers9108
      @tomlucasrccrawlers9108 6 месяцев назад

      That makes sense. ​@@thebiggestpanda1

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +2

      I've been thinking about that. Tentative title "Why I don't train like an old time strongman and you probably shouldn't either"

  • @timelineenjoyer
    @timelineenjoyer 6 месяцев назад +3

    The importance of tendon and ligament strength makes me wonder what people would be capable of with a foundation of gymnastics or climbing in their childhoods/adolescence to build that up before starting weight lifting.

    • @Thefool1911
      @Thefool1911 6 месяцев назад +1

      Knew someone like that he got 120kg on bench the first time he ever tried it

    • @alexschutz7283
      @alexschutz7283 6 месяцев назад +1

      That used to just be childhood.. we were always climbing trees, everyone was taking martial arts, gymnastics, dance, sports for after school activities, riding our bikes all over the place, and generally engaging in physical play.
      I'll be 40 next month. Raising kids in a semi rural area- we're in a 3 street neighborhood surrounded by apple orchards. There's enough kids with a small enough community that we're slowly creating that scene here. And objectively, the kids are happier when they go and play than they are on the days they stay in.
      And, you know. The fitness benefits of childhood activity shouldn't even need explaining.

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +2

      I think we're going to see soon. I'm seeing all kinds of young people doing really impressive and esoteric stuff in their late teens. I think as more kids come up with a better background, we'll see some pretty impressive things.

    • @ciarfah
      @ciarfah 5 месяцев назад

      Sports in general are a super important foundation for children. I know adults with zero coordination because they didn't do sports as a child. Without general coordination it's difficult to get into athletic/strength training

    • @ciarfah
      @ciarfah 5 месяцев назад +1

      That said I did plenty of sports (rugby, gymnastics, martial arts) into my mid teens and my joints were never great. It was only after starting weight training I saw improvement in my knee and low back pain

  • @priscillahernandez8193
    @priscillahernandez8193 6 месяцев назад

    WOOO! GREAT VIDEO! VERY INFORMATIVE! KEEP EM COMING I LOVE THIS CHANNEL

  • @Shr3w
    @Shr3w 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dinosaurs are pretty cool. I've even been getting interested in non-dinosaur reptiles thanks to channels like CHimerasuchus.

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад

      That does look pretty cool. Giant long legged crocodile lizards!

  • @tribunaldude
    @tribunaldude 6 месяцев назад +8

    Dinosaur exercises went "extinct simply because of two reasons:
    1. People over time understood the "specificity" of strength and that so called "general strength" was more related to bodyweight, explosivity, leverages, and being able to use the stretch reflex without much prior preparation. The promise of so called "dinosaur training" was REAL strength (orked for Brooks Kubik and Steve Justa to fool middle aged men but little else), but then old time lifters werent the ones kicking people's asses in bar fights or even frickin arm wrestling. People aren't blind.
    2. People got clearer about what they wanted from their hours of effort. If you ant to impress people in the gym train linear progression and then PL. If you want to be able to fight learn the fundamentals of grappling, blocking and striking and do a basic lifting program that doesnt interfere with skill work. if you want to look big then go bear mode and train like a bodybuilder. If you want to look good with your shirt off train like a BBer/fitness model and get lean enough. if you want to beat people at arm wrestling then TRAIN arm wrestling instead of doing some weird kettlebell stuff. ETc etc etc.
    Odd lifts need to demonstrate value before people adopt them... Jefferson curls have clear value so some Olers do them. Bent Presses and BB hack squats, not really.

    • @normanquednau
      @normanquednau 6 месяцев назад +2

      The bent press is one of the coolest lift, hitting mobility and strength. The problem is, people have no mobility.

    • @tribunaldude
      @tribunaldude 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@normanquednau if you like the lift, have fun and load/progress it safely! No lift is indispensable for general strength.if fighters, wrestlers, law enforcement, strongmen, bouncers, ftball payers saw some "indispensable" value in the lift they would be doing it lol.

  • @BuJammy
    @BuJammy 6 месяцев назад

    I love the tricep/hammer bar for pullovers. It offers a few different grips.

  • @RokoJelavic-ih6ws
    @RokoJelavic-ih6ws 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hey man, your sound is too quiet, I always need to crank the volume to the max when watching the video

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks, I'll get a mic

    • @DavideGalic
      @DavideGalic 5 месяцев назад

      @@atlaspowershrugged You don‘t need a mic for that! RUclips has a recommended dB level (Decibels) and because everyone has mixed their audio to that recommendation your videos seems quieter than from other channels.
      It‘s not hard or time consuming to normalize your audio levels, it takes 30 seconds!
      Hope you see this comment :)

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  5 месяцев назад

      @DavideGalic ok I'll look that up, thanks

  • @GhostSamaritan
    @GhostSamaritan 6 месяцев назад +2

    Trey the Explainer has amazing dinosaur videos. Highly recommended.

  • @watsonkushmaster3067
    @watsonkushmaster3067 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was so sad when my kid stopped his dinosaur phase, it was way too short, i loved dinosaura for years haha...hopefully the second one will hold it longer
    On the note of the video - couldnt arnold and others be blamed for that as well? They made the golds gym and the whole fluff and pump bodybuilding lifestyle mainstream and you there was no place for anything else

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +3

      I'm dreading the end man. It's so cute.
      I wouldn't blame Arnold, he kept silver era training in circulation a while longer with the Encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding, which was very good

  • @mo_abb219
    @mo_abb219 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can't wait to be a dad lol

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +3

      It is awesome, don't let anyone scare you away from it with horror stories.

  • @pauld7777
    @pauld7777 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome video

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked it. Got a little cameo appearance in today's as well!

  • @adamkallaev3573
    @adamkallaev3573 6 месяцев назад +1

    You might enjoy faycry 3 blood dragon!

  • @GhostSamaritan
    @GhostSamaritan 6 месяцев назад +1

    I find that modern lifting largely ignores the sagittal and transverse planes, as well as iso- and plyometrics. Did ye olde time strongman training cover those well?

    • @clydenolet736
      @clydenolet736 6 месяцев назад

      I bend steel bars and rip decks of cards - kettlebell juggle - just about all feats of strength from olde time strongman covers the sagital and transverse inherent

  • @josephperkins4857
    @josephperkins4857 6 месяцев назад +2

    modern bodybuilding and its training methods helped do them in =(

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +8

      I don't think it's the exercise methods that did it, if you catch my drift.

    • @ByronTexas
      @ByronTexas 6 месяцев назад

      Wait, you think it could be 💉
      🤔🤫

    • @atlaspowershrugged
      @atlaspowershrugged  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ByronTexas either that or a series of asteroid impacts causing a ton of water to be released from glaciers.

    • @ByronTexas
      @ByronTexas 6 месяцев назад

      @@atlaspowershrugged The meteor and floods was my other comment before this one

    • @josephperkins4857
      @josephperkins4857 6 месяцев назад

      Lol well it wa s steroids and dumbing it down

  • @ThomasMaulTraining
    @ThomasMaulTraining 6 месяцев назад

    thanks for the video. also wanted to thank you for your latest ebook about the old time lifts. makes it very easy with one source of material for my training.