Went from eating good with the one shot win axes from ds3 to starving with barely any notable choices in ER. They all have dookie movesets aside from hatchets and warped/ripple
To be honest I think the only thing that could save axes and greataxes from their horrible animations and frame data would be to give them a ludicrous amount of base damage, at least then once you finally land a hit it would actually be somewhat worth it
@@aquadracos7836 ludicrous base damage would just mean they would be good in ganks when you have a teammate to cover your mistakes, but miyazaki would approve of that so...
What I Need is an axe that has the morning star running heavy attack to mimic that one lunge attack Godfrey and Godrick do where they stab at you with the flat end between the blade heads.
The Iron cleaver is my favorite weapon in the game, I used it on my first playthrough and just fell in love with the move set, specifically the charged heavy attacks. It plays so different from other axes though, so idk imo it barely even counts as an axe.
You are right about the hatchet/handaxe being a good offhand. Its 14 frames start up, which is actually the same speed as offstoc. The issue is that the animation of the attack itself is still much more reactable than offstoc. The range makes it worth considering over off fist though. I think if 2h axe R1 and running R1 was slightly faster, it would actually be quite good, because the 2nd R1 does backswing at times. The 1h moveset isn't terrible but generally just not worth it because its outclassed by literally every other light weapon. The powerstanced moveset is beyond help though.
Warped axe is not a base moveset. It's a unique moveset, shared with Ripple Blade. It's backswing is as fast as shamshir and it gets a one-handed true combo R2-R1. But the poor range still holds it back.
I was just thinking this bro! I think axes need one or two of the following buffs to compete with other weapons classes: 1. More poise damage in PvE. Classes like fists should not outcompetes axes for staggering enemies, buff their poise damage! 2. Faster startup on R1 and R2 attacks. They should not be as slow as great swords (I think they might even be slower). 3. More hyper armor on their attacks if they're not sped up. Basically a "small heavy weapon", where you can tank lots of attacks but have lower equip load.
I agree. Started dual axes on my first playthrough on Elden ring and I was so upset by how underwhelming they were. I still played with them with some success but I wish they made it more like D3 axes. It just required too much to even be functional
Memezaki hates non weeb weapons, they give cross naginata unique moveset despite being another spear but give the flails the same moveset of hammers even tho is a new weapon class
Cross Nagi was 99% meant to be a halberd at first. If you map out the (unique) stats on a spreadsheet, it checks out convincingly. Then they moved it as a spear, copypasted the copypaste stat block of spears to it and ~matched frames and done. Imagine if it had the halberd PS move set instead.
For anyone wondering, offhand handaxe is a frame 14 attack, same speed as an offhand straight sword, thrusting sword or katana (and also same speed as 2 handed shamshir, 2h thrusting sword, katana (1h or two handed)), by comparison offdag is frame 11, offstoc (alr mentioned) is frame 14, off fist is frame 13 (most meta offhands). You have to keep in mind though that offstoc while same speed hits earlier and is also harder to react to because of the animation, but the upside is that handaxe breaks poise in one hit and has better range than something like off fist. Still imo out of all of them (off-fist, offstoc, offdagger, off handaxe) handaxe is the worst one. On a side note, the warped axe has good cancels for the followup r1 so you can almost play it like a shamshir (though it's much harder). It's slower and the framedata isn't quite on par with sham but you can have some fun with it.
ER axes moveset is decent but for me ds3 had the best 2h moveset, ds2 had the best 1h moveset for axes. i agree, axes barely has something to do in the game, they are not even good to pair with another weapon class (besides hand-axe). they have decent damage, but that's not even the shadow on how they use to be back in ds2 with weapons like bandit axe and butchers knife, or in ds3 with dragonslayer's axe and the twin axes. at this point i just hope to get something decent for all these really off-meta weapons, something that can defend their names.
As long as you can beat the game with it george RamRod martin considers it balanced. If we complain enough he and miko rocky will stop rubbing eachothers feet to give us the most basic changes and go right back to rubbin. That being said ive been using the hand axe and icerind as an off-hand for a while now and they both slap. I found icerind SOMETIMES makes up for zamor r1 and can sometimes catch a panic roll after an r2
Correction: daggers are faster offhand (11frames) and fist are faster offhand (13frames) Where hand axes really shines compared to others is not only its speed (its like only 1 frame faster, this frame matters since it is what makes it go into "unreactable" or "nearly unreactable) but also its recovery (1 frame faster on second l1, compared to cleaver), its only really useful in some specific situations that I would say are more important in duels, like for instance if your opponent wants to roll+attack after a halberd hit, you get just enough recovery after doing l1 l1, to hit the opponent and roll out of his attack, even if they have fast weapons like 2h TS or fists. So for invasion I would rather recommend iron cleaver on offhand, since it has better dodge recovery on the l1, less counterdamage frames and better move recovery, and better damage in general.
Edit 2: and yeah animations are basically the bane of some weapon classes : \ Edit: as an example Kruton's Axe was quite decent at killing twinks and made short work of some enemies on SL1 playthroughs There were at least a few decent enough axes in previous games. Not really competetive material (aside from offhand thrall axe), but decent enough for invasions. Axes in elden wrong however... holy shit that weapon class is a dumpster fire...
There are some really good axes that nobody uses like the Celebrant's cleaver which has a dex leaning scaling if you're looking to make use of the cold infusion its the same weapon essentially as the cleaver but its worth mentioning, i'd also mention that the Jawbone axe does have higher base damage than the warped axe albeit with slightly worse strength scaling however it is a great option since its also lighter, the Rosus axe gets overlooked quite a bit but is honestly underrated i'd reccomend it to anyone doing a strength/int build because it really isn't unusual to oneshot someone with it under the right conditions.
My favorite axe is the Celebrant's Cleaver. It is the same as the Iron Cleaver but weighs 1.5 pounds less. My favorite invasion build is a main hand cold cleaver with spinning slash and an off hand cold halbert with ice spear. The cleaver R1 is fast and is good for trading, the R2 is for roll catching and L1 is for changeups and closing distance. Spinning slash is a good get off me and ice spear is okay for a ranged option (could be swapped out). I find that most people don't know how to fight this build and they try to trade the cleaver. It is a really hard build to perry as well. Without cold infusion the build probably would not work though. I also like the main hand Nightrider Glaive and off hand hand axe. To be fair, an off hand thrusting sword would probably be better but I enjoy using the axe. I mainly invade in the 40-80 lvl range, so that might be why I enjoy axes. Not sure how hard they fall off at higher levels. I feel like the Stormhawk axe is the only axe that doesn't fall off. Remember when Icerind Hatchet was S tier for a month or 2? I feel like that was so OP at launch that they never rebalanced axes because they assumed they were all good or it would make the few good axes great.
Slow down Axes slightly, increase stamina drain per swing, give them UGS hyper armor when two handed/Greatsword Hyper armor when one handed and the AR/Hitstun of Straightswords. This would give them a role that is unique while allowing them to achieve the Bezerker fantasy. The damage would not allow them to out trade anything bigger than Greatswords but would allow for quicker followups after said trade. This could be interesting when going for a bleed Proc through taking a losing trade with an UGS for example. Piercing attacks, range and spacing would be a way skilled StraightSword/Rapier/CurvedSwords users could overcome the trades Axes would be going for. Axes would then have a place for players who dont like spacing, want the speed of a Straightsword/Rapier and are willing to make steep sacrifices to have hyper armor while swinging.
@@lharsay yeah... I think Fromsoft really didn't think that much about it. They buffed greataxes and greathammers so much that axes and hammers are slower, deal less damage, have less hyperarmor and less range / forward movement on attacks than their 'great' counterpart. The only thing hammers and axes have for themselves is the recovery, making them more mash-able. Despite all that, greataxes are still pretty mid and greathammers are like ok-tier (greathammers are faster almost everywhere and greathammers have much better recovery on 2h than greataxe)
One of the most disturbing setups I found in this game uses off hand warped axe and colossal greatsword main hand. You poke into unlocked 2x L1 with the warped axe to the sides and it's a 3 hit true combo. All the normal moveset axes are terrible though yeah.
The hand axe and warped axe are the only two axes that are good among the rest, only because of their unique light attack chains compared to the chain that most of the axes have
@@PseudoNym13it can but it’s not the optimal way to use it you are supposed to trade in with aow so it cancels your hit then you can combo the hit with your off hand weapon like carian slicer
Honestly when i tried th powerstanced axes for the first time i was....beyond disappointed like why dosentthe first hit stagger and why ia it so slow!? Honeatly i would increase the ar of axes even further so it has something over hammers and straightswords Make their r2 faster and finally the poweratanced moveaet, make it faster and make the firat attack stagger FOR THE LOVE OG GOD I dont know why fromsoft hates my dream of being a dual axe berserker 😢 Sorry for the typos i am on le phonee with my fat susage fingers
Ripple Blade on a pure arcane build is nuts. The moveset is the same as warped axe but isn't shared with regular axes. The other standout imo is the highland axe which buffs roar/shouts and has a higher crit modifier. Axes are ok one handed imo, they are great paired with a parry shield. They tend to do more damage than straight swords. It's really the ps moveset where they are bad. What's crazy is that ds3 had the paired winged Knight axes that had an amazing moveset... There are still things that could be done to improve the situation, minor tweaks can go a long way. Great axes are super cool in this game tho.
Honestly i would ve preffered if they had at least some hyper armor to trade or surpass some attacks That could reflect furious nature of this weapon type and barbarity
do you think one handed sword is okay in ER? coz im doing shield and sword and it kinda sucks right now, i killed godrick and it was kinda hard, i thought that with shield it will be but it wasnt
Interesting take, axes in DS2 were at their strongest (and technically, if we look at DS1 Handaxe, the weakest axe, but with an actual functional moveset, they had potential there too), and that’s the one game he didn’t direct
Twinaxes in DS3? Oh ho ho ho, I could build a Primordial Crucible of my own with all the bodies I piled using that weapon. Any Paired Axes in Elden Ring? Like meth, not even once should you try it.
I was really sad they didn’t change axes up in this game tbh and they kinda feel worse then how the weapon class was on Ds3, luckily the “Hatchet” moveset as I’ve been calling it is still good (due to my use of a off-hand Icerind Hatchet recently) to fix axes I think we should split the class in two having “axes” and “hatchets” that are designed to be power-stanced together and then we can give the two-handed axe moveset more hyper armor on it’s R1s as well so you can still use a singular axe without a hatchet
Oh and to add hatchets would be fine tuned to work better in the off-hand like one of its gimmicks could be being able to use its skills/AoWs while it’s in the off-hand
Lvl 200 70 strength 70 arcane occult infused warped axe with poison mist and mush crown plus kindred of rot. Exalted flesh 1300 ar on a single axe. Lvl 200 stupid tho.
My axe summons 3 spooky bois to help me jump my enemies. Also the hand axe is so stupidly good for all the souls series 1-3 and elden ring pve (pvp any weapon can work if your skilled)
Nah, Miyazaki hates Seals/Staves: Dead R2 Button (For 13+ Years) Pointless L1 (Two-Handed) Button Nonexistent Ash of War Options No Infusions No Dual Wield Moveset
@@nicom1702 hey guys, I found the CAZUL. Seriously. If you sleep on Butchering Knife and Ripple Blade, then you are dumber than an average Storm Stomp spammer.
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I'm still mad that powerstanced axes in this game didn't just reuse the winged knight twinaxe moveset from DS3.
1000% they reused so many assets so why not that!?
@@SgtJager00 you know the powerstanced moveset we did get looks like the Drang hammer moveset from DS3
@@pitshoster401 which should've been the powerstanced hammer moveset...
@@pitshoster401even Drang moveset were better than the current PS axe moveset.
Funny seeing you here and I totally agree it's b******* power stance acts as it should have the wing night twinaxes moveset from DS3
Further proof that Miyazaki hates axes: they were stupidly strong in DS2
Best Souls 2 keeps winning 💪😎
@@nacicomino m8, no
@@nicolasbarbosa8270 yes m8, yes
What is the deal with ds2?, people. Either love it, or hate with their (dark) soul.
@@darkunor6687 cause it's worse than the other souls games. It's not a bad game, it's just not up to the souls standard
Went from eating good with the one shot win axes from ds3 to starving with barely any notable choices in ER. They all have dookie movesets aside from hatchets and warped/ripple
To be honest I think the only thing that could save axes and greataxes from their horrible animations and frame data would be to give them a ludicrous amount of base damage, at least then once you finally land a hit it would actually be somewhat worth it
@@aquadracos7836 ludicrous base damage would just mean they would be good in ganks when you have a teammate to cover your mistakes, but miyazaki would approve of that so...
What I Need is an axe that has the morning star running heavy attack to mimic that one lunge attack Godfrey and Godrick do where they stab at you with the flat end between the blade heads.
I call that the lollipop attack
The Iron cleaver is my favorite weapon in the game, I used it on my first playthrough and just fell in love with the move set, specifically the charged heavy attacks. It plays so different from other axes though, so idk imo it barely even counts as an axe.
You are right about the hatchet/handaxe being a good offhand. Its 14 frames start up, which is actually the same speed as offstoc. The issue is that the animation of the attack itself is still much more reactable than offstoc. The range makes it worth considering over off fist though. I think if 2h axe R1 and running R1 was slightly faster, it would actually be quite good, because the 2nd R1 does backswing at times. The 1h moveset isn't terrible but generally just not worth it because its outclassed by literally every other light weapon. The powerstanced moveset is beyond help though.
Warped axe is not a base moveset. It's a unique moveset, shared with Ripple Blade. It's backswing is as fast as shamshir and it gets a one-handed true combo R2-R1. But the poor range still holds it back.
Man you got toast in that first invasion 😂
The icerend hachet is the 3rd axe with the faster moveset, its longer then the hand axe but locked with hoarfrost stomp, its also a quality weapon
I thought it mostly scaled with Dex?
@Patrick-bn5rp I think it D strength and C dex, I haven't used it in awhile, but that D shouldn't be underestimated ;)
@@justsomegamer01 According to fextralife, it gets a B in Dex and a D in STR.
@Patrick-bn5rp hmm 🤔 like I said I ain't used it in awhile, but that means it's better then I thought
I bet Gustavo could make an axe work. But hey he's a busy monkey and he found the Gyroscope of Wisdom which gives him cool toys. ❤
I was just thinking this bro! I think axes need one or two of the following buffs to compete with other weapons classes:
1. More poise damage in PvE. Classes like fists should not outcompetes axes for staggering enemies, buff their poise damage!
2. Faster startup on R1 and R2 attacks. They should not be as slow as great swords (I think they might even be slower).
3. More hyper armor on their attacks if they're not sped up. Basically a "small heavy weapon", where you can tank lots of attacks but have lower equip load.
I agree. Started dual axes on my first playthrough on Elden ring and I was so upset by how underwhelming they were. I still played with them with some success but I wish they made it more like D3 axes. It just required too much to even be functional
Memezaki hates non weeb weapons, they give cross naginata unique moveset despite being another spear but give the flails the same moveset of hammers even tho is a new weapon class
Cross Nagi was 99% meant to be a halberd at first. If you map out the (unique) stats on a spreadsheet, it checks out convincingly. Then they moved it as a spear, copypasted the copypaste stat block of spears to it and ~matched frames and done. Imagine if it had the halberd PS move set instead.
I thought axes were decent in Ds3 and 1.
And the hunters axe is one of the best weapons in bloodborn
Even the rapier has the 130 crit, good for a shield -poke parry build
Yeah it has a niche, unlike 80% of axes
But why is the rapier, a weapon known for it's reach, the shortest thrusting sword? It should be estoc length.
Which doesn't make much a difference when you consider the retarded damage the Cleanrot gets
For anyone wondering, offhand handaxe is a frame 14 attack, same speed as an offhand straight sword, thrusting sword or katana (and also same speed as 2 handed shamshir, 2h thrusting sword, katana (1h or two handed)), by comparison offdag is frame 11, offstoc (alr mentioned) is frame 14, off fist is frame 13 (most meta offhands). You have to keep in mind though that offstoc while same speed hits earlier and is also harder to react to because of the animation, but the upside is that handaxe breaks poise in one hit and has better range than something like off fist. Still imo out of all of them (off-fist, offstoc, offdagger, off handaxe) handaxe is the worst one.
On a side note, the warped axe has good cancels for the followup r1 so you can almost play it like a shamshir (though it's much harder). It's slower and the framedata isn't quite on par with sham but you can have some fun with it.
ER axes moveset is decent but for me ds3 had the best 2h moveset, ds2 had the best 1h moveset for axes.
i agree, axes barely has something to do in the game, they are not even good to pair with another weapon class (besides hand-axe).
they have decent damage, but that's not even the shadow on how they use to be back in ds2 with weapons like bandit axe and butchers knife, or in ds3 with dragonslayer's axe and the twin axes.
at this point i just hope to get something decent for all these really off-meta weapons, something that can defend their names.
They basically went with the speed and reach of clubs but without the poise and blunt damage benefits.
That fight against that blood plant dude with the whips was pretty cool
As long as you can beat the game with it george RamRod martin considers it balanced. If we complain enough he and miko rocky will stop rubbing eachothers feet to give us the most basic changes and go right back to rubbin. That being said ive been using the hand axe and icerind as an off-hand for a while now and they both slap. I found icerind SOMETIMES makes up for zamor r1 and can sometimes catch a panic roll after an r2
Straight back to rubbing lmao
I love axes however I can’t deny they kinda suck
Icerind has the handaxe moveset btw
@@LS-rp6yq oh reeeaaallly that's cool!
Correction: daggers are faster offhand (11frames) and fist are faster offhand (13frames)
Where hand axes really shines compared to others is not only its speed (its like only 1 frame faster, this frame matters since it is what makes it go into "unreactable" or "nearly unreactable) but also its recovery (1 frame faster on second l1, compared to cleaver), its only really useful in some specific situations that I would say are more important in duels, like for instance if your opponent wants to roll+attack after a halberd hit, you get just enough recovery after doing l1 l1, to hit the opponent and roll out of his attack, even if they have fast weapons like 2h TS or fists.
So for invasion I would rather recommend iron cleaver on offhand, since it has better dodge recovery on the l1, less counterdamage frames and better move recovery, and better damage in general.
Warped axe has the same status buildup as a great axe too
It kills me when a summon points down after killing an invader in a 3v1 where they do nothing skillfull and use only L2s lol. I just gotta laugh at it
Edit 2: and yeah animations are basically the bane of some weapon classes : \
Edit: as an example Kruton's Axe was quite decent at killing twinks and made short work of some enemies on SL1 playthroughs
There were at least a few decent enough axes in previous games. Not really competetive material (aside from offhand thrall axe), but decent enough for invasions. Axes in elden wrong however... holy shit that weapon class is a dumpster fire...
Kruton🤣
@@SgtJager00 he got fat so he's kruton now
Increase the hyper armor on the r2s (especially the shit teir r2s). Increase the damage on shit tier r2s. Nerf light roll.
Offhand icerind is fun because longer hand axe moveset
Not better than stoc, but pretty good
There are some really good axes that nobody uses like the Celebrant's cleaver which has a dex leaning scaling if you're looking to make use of the cold infusion its the same weapon essentially as the cleaver but its worth mentioning, i'd also mention that the Jawbone axe does have higher base damage than the warped axe albeit with slightly worse strength scaling however it is a great option since its also lighter, the Rosus axe gets overlooked quite a bit but is honestly underrated i'd reccomend it to anyone doing a strength/int build because it really isn't unusual to oneshot someone with it under the right conditions.
My favorite axe is the Celebrant's Cleaver. It is the same as the Iron Cleaver but weighs 1.5 pounds less. My favorite invasion build is a main hand cold cleaver with spinning slash and an off hand cold halbert with ice spear. The cleaver R1 is fast and is good for trading, the R2 is for roll catching and L1 is for changeups and closing distance. Spinning slash is a good get off me and ice spear is okay for a ranged option (could be swapped out). I find that most people don't know how to fight this build and they try to trade the cleaver. It is a really hard build to perry as well. Without cold infusion the build probably would not work though.
I also like the main hand Nightrider Glaive and off hand hand axe. To be fair, an off hand thrusting sword would probably be better but I enjoy using the axe. I mainly invade in the 40-80 lvl range, so that might be why I enjoy axes. Not sure how hard they fall off at higher levels. I feel like the Stormhawk axe is the only axe that doesn't fall off. Remember when Icerind Hatchet was S tier for a month or 2? I feel like that was so OP at launch that they never rebalanced axes because they assumed they were all good or it would make the few good axes great.
Slow down Axes slightly, increase stamina drain per swing, give them UGS hyper armor when two handed/Greatsword Hyper armor when one handed and the AR/Hitstun of Straightswords. This would give them a role that is unique while allowing them to achieve the Bezerker fantasy. The damage would not allow them to out trade anything bigger than Greatswords but would allow for quicker followups after said trade. This could be interesting when going for a bleed Proc through taking a losing trade with an UGS for example. Piercing attacks, range and spacing would be a way skilled StraightSword/Rapier/CurvedSwords users could overcome the trades Axes would be going for. Axes would then have a place for players who dont like spacing, want the speed of a Straightsword/Rapier and are willing to make steep sacrifices to have hyper armor while swinging.
Wdym, miyazaki loves axes, so much that there are 3 classes that have axes: axe greataxe and colossal
Greataxes got pretty good after multiple speed buffs, ER is the first souls game where I enjoy using that weapon class.
@@lharsay yeah... I think Fromsoft really didn't think that much about it. They buffed greataxes and greathammers so much that axes and hammers are slower, deal less damage, have less hyperarmor and less range / forward movement on attacks than their 'great' counterpart.
The only thing hammers and axes have for themselves is the recovery, making them more mash-able.
Despite all that, greataxes are still pretty mid and greathammers are like ok-tier (greathammers are faster almost everywhere and greathammers have much better recovery on 2h than greataxe)
Man did not look at swords
One of the most disturbing setups I found in this game uses off hand warped axe and colossal greatsword main hand. You poke into unlocked 2x L1 with the warped axe to the sides and it's a 3 hit true combo. All the normal moveset axes are terrible though yeah.
For axes if you want something decent it's stormhawk, ripple, warped or icerind. Nothing else is much use.
i think the axes with the "light axe" moveset like the hand axe are pretty underrated overall, kinda hoping we get more of those in the dlc
9:34 that combo god damn
Those ds2 axe quick attacks
*chiefs kiss*
The hand axe and warped axe are the only two axes that are good among the rest, only because of their unique light attack chains compared to the chain that most of the axes have
Handaxes have always been my favorite offhand weapon since they were really good in ds3 especially after offhand Yhorm’s got nerfed
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Rosus axe it’s aow is amazing for trades since you can get a combo from it
Tbh I have never fought or used it💀 I'll try it out and maybe make a video
@@SgtJager00 It’s horrible for invasions since you are just going to get comboed by the other guy from hitstun it’s more of a duel weapon
It can absolute melt people if you can manage to land all 4 hits, your hit and the 3 skeletons. The spell version is more powerful though.
@@PseudoNym13it can but it’s not the optimal way to use it you are supposed to trade in with aow so it cancels your hit then you can combo the hit with your off hand weapon like carian slicer
Stormhawk axe looking at the poster like this 🤔😏
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Yessir
Honestly when i tried th powerstanced axes for the first time i was....beyond disappointed like why dosentthe first hit stagger and why ia it so slow!?
Honeatly i would increase the ar of axes even further so it has something over hammers and straightswords
Make their r2 faster and finally the poweratanced moveaet, make it faster and make the firat attack stagger FOR THE LOVE OG GOD
I dont know why fromsoft hates my dream of being a dual axe berserker 😢
Sorry for the typos i am on le phonee with my fat susage fingers
Axes deal the same poise damage as curved swords
Ripple Blade on a pure arcane build is nuts. The moveset is the same as warped axe but isn't shared with regular axes.
The other standout imo is the highland axe which buffs roar/shouts and has a higher crit modifier.
Axes are ok one handed imo, they are great paired with a parry shield. They tend to do more damage than straight swords. It's really the ps moveset where they are bad. What's crazy is that ds3 had the paired winged Knight axes that had an amazing moveset... There are still things that could be done to improve the situation, minor tweaks can go a long way.
Great axes are super cool in this game tho.
And Great Axes... I am so bad there is no Black Knight Great Axe moveset in ER yet. Hoping for te DLC to give it to us.
For some reason i like hearing you talk about this games poor weapon balance.
Honestly i would ve preffered if they had at least some hyper armor to trade or surpass some attacks
That could reflect furious nature of this weapon type and barbarity
do you think one handed sword is okay in ER? coz im doing shield and sword and it kinda sucks right now, i killed godrick and it was kinda hard, i thought that with shield it will be but it wasnt
Even looking at the warped axe makes me 🤢 🤮 its the ugliest thing in the game. I rather fight with fists than using that
Interesting take, axes in DS2 were at their strongest (and technically, if we look at DS1 Handaxe, the weakest axe, but with an actual functional moveset, they had potential there too), and that’s the one game he didn’t direct
Dont sleep on Godfrey’s Greataxe, with the right setup I was hitting 4000+ damage
That's a colossal weapon
Im glad the warped axe was a standard axe because there really wasn't much to work with.
Twinaxes in DS3?
Oh ho ho ho, I could build a Primordial Crucible of my own with all the bodies I piled using that weapon.
Any Paired Axes in Elden Ring?
Like meth, not even once should you try it.
Also you should try cleaver offhand halberd. That shits magic
I was really sad they didn’t change axes up in this game tbh and they kinda feel worse then how the weapon class was on Ds3, luckily the “Hatchet” moveset as I’ve been calling it is still good (due to my use of a off-hand Icerind Hatchet recently) to fix axes I think we should split the class in two having “axes” and “hatchets” that are designed to be power-stanced together and then we can give the two-handed axe moveset more hyper armor on it’s R1s as well so you can still use a singular axe without a hatchet
Oh and to add hatchets would be fine tuned to work better in the off-hand like one of its gimmicks could be being able to use its skills/AoWs while it’s in the off-hand
Why does Michael Zaki hate bows
That's an idea...
axes and maces where screwed over
but man axes just feel trash vs anything else :(
Lvl 200 70 strength 70 arcane occult infused warped axe with poison mist and mush crown plus kindred of rot. Exalted flesh 1300 ar on a single axe. Lvl 200 stupid tho.
My axe summons 3 spooky bois to help me jump my enemies. Also the hand axe is so stupidly good for all the souls series 1-3 and elden ring pve (pvp any weapon can work if your skilled)
Me who gets obliterated by stormhawk axe and good players with stormstomp axe. I do understand its not good for invasion though.
Nah, Miyazaki hates Seals/Staves:
Dead R2 Button (For 13+ Years)
Pointless L1 (Two-Handed) Button
Nonexistent Ash of War Options
No Infusions
No Dual Wield Moveset
What do you expect from the team who thinks passive poise was a good idea...
What buffs do they need in a mod?
Winged knight twinaxes is the only hp crusher in ds3. But in Elden ring it's ass
DS2 Axes are great, the later games completely ruined this weapon class
Same with bows
Super low quality on this video. Not sure why, maybe its me? Says 144p "(higher quality)"
They were good in demons souls.
dont talk shit about my beloved battle axe
- "Axes sUcK, bOo-HoO"
Bro, Butchering Knife, Rusted Anchor, Warped Axe, Sacrificial Axe, Icerind Hatchet, Ripple Blade - those things are joke to you, or what?
Hey guys, I found the PvEer
@@nicom1702 hey guys, I found the CAZUL.
Seriously. If you sleep on Butchering Knife and Ripple Blade, then you are dumber than an average Storm Stomp spammer.
I wonder what from was smoking letting you put sleep on the ripple blade, imagine sleeping a player without even hitting them lol!
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axes haven't been good since ds2
Had to block you the other day I think, may have been an impersonator though. Easy on the tryharding against us poor reds please.