Just got a new 2023 300xc about a month ago. I am in love. 2nd time riding it, I tore my ACL at about 3 mph. Had surgery last week and hope to be back to riding in 3 to 4 months. So for now, all I can do is watch videos. I’m 53 but I’m not quitting. Little O
4hrs on my 23 300XC. No issues except for a blink code that disappeared in the woods before I could start counting. Watching your mods closely and looking forward to AER mods. Looking to reduce the high speed compression for 3 inch plus root compliance but not give up much on whoops etc. Great to watch you working and riding on our bike. Kind Regards, Sid
@@highlandcycles yeah I did actually try that. It unfortunately didn’t go away. I did foul a plug on the first ride, (babying it too much I think) and replaced the plug with a br7es in the trail. (That’s all I had.) Wondering if that’s too hot of plug. If the computer can tell since one of the “possibilities” under exhaust valve. One option is “temperature to high”
Whad UP! Got mine 2 days ago, taking out tomorrow for the first ride, my first brand new bike, never been this excited! Previous bike is a XCF 350 "17 model
I now give a thumbs up before I have watched most of your videos. For my area of riding I am liking the Acerbis skidplate with the extension covering the rear linkage. Break-in oil agree 1,000%. Over 80 years ago automobiles use to have "break-in oil" due to the way the engines were made. Nothing uses break-in oil since then. So the 2023 does not have the coolant thermostat crap assembly like the TPI's had. I lke how the 1 O'ring sits down so it cannot be accidently moved when installing the head.
Some days I really want an electric start bike, but then I see/hear about fuel pump issues, ECU, etc...and I start being grateful for the simplicity of my '05 300.
Thanks for the detailed teardown on the new KTM! 4.5 hours on my '23 300XC and the engine is impressive. So much low to mid power and roll on torque. The fuel tank design is interesting - we'll see how it works with actual riding. My suspension started to feel much better after 4 hours use - seems to be breaking in - how is your suspension working and do you feel any difference in frame compliance after 10 hours use?
@@bradleymuha4861 I actually sold mine with about 16 hours use - no issues. I picked up a 23 Husky TX300 Heritage Edition (really like the retro look) and that bike has about 16 hours so far with no issues. I did install some WP Pro Component suspension but otherwise stock. Very fun bike!
10:24 the owner's manual states 60:1 for the 250/300 not 40:1, air/fuel ratio is therfore leaner. Not trying to be a smart ass, just noticed it. Probably you know and choose to add more oil. Would be intreresting if the new EFI is adjusting to such variables.
I definitely know that they call for 60:1. The biggest reason I run 40:1 is that my kids bikes all call for 32:1 so I figure 40 is an easy meet in the middle so I don’t have to carry multiple cans. I don’t think the EFI system is sophisticated enough to know
My 24 fouled a plug coming down a long rough downhill. Has about 6 hours on it. Lots of sponge on the tailpipe. Wondering if going from 60/1 down to 50/1 or 40/1 would help it? Seems pretty rich at least down low. Thanks
Hey im watching your videos becasue my tx300 this past Saturday just would not fire. i just had my stator rewound by Ricky, added a baja designs wiring harness to run a squadron pro. After i installed all that i tested it around my neighborhood. Fired right up. Went riding with my buddy no issues unitl we stopped at a trailhead, i hit thr stop button then when we were ready to go again i hit the start button and it would just turn and turn. No sprak. Ive checked all fuses all good. The odometer i noticed does not turn on either. If i remember correctly it would show me hours when you hit the start button. Any ideas???
The hour meter is supposed to turn on. I would check the relay that turns all the power on. The button spins the motor, that spins the flywheel and the sensor goes past the pickup coil and that actually triggers a relay that turns all the power on to the fuel pump and ignition. Could also be an issue with the pickup coil.
Where is the relay that turns all the power on? Also do you think the rewound stator could be a cause of the problem? Like in your videos you can find the issue but need to know why something is happening.
@@frankortiz8249 I doubt that the rewound stator is the issue but maybe on install you pinched a pickup coil wire? I would check in there again just to be safe. The relay is one of those under the seat. I’m not sure which one. To check if that circuit is the issue, bump the start button and listen for the fuel pump. If it doesn’t turn on then you have a power supply problem. Either relay, pickup coil, or wiring in between.
what is your opinion on the TPI Bikes? Internal engine wear with it running rich and or lean at start up and how to combat the lack of oil that would be in the piston at start up. maybe running a few drops of Castor in the fuel pre mixed to help lubricate. I love the 300 XC W for where I ride but just have a few worries, I currently ride a 2009 yz250 that I have made into a Woods machine but I want a Bike that is actually made for that, better lower end grunt.
The cheap way to take care of the TPI is making sure you warm it up properly. If you blip the throttle on warm up you’ll damage it. They need a while before oil is where it needs to be. The cool way to make it bad ass is the TSP split injection kit b
Now I’m using the Carapaks one. It’s small too but super sharp. I like them smaller and close in so I don’t smash them in the rocks. System Tech Racing makes a sweet larger one.
I’ve got 3hrs on my 23 xc250 had the 5 flash code which cleared on its own when an ignition code came on, took it to spykes bikes and they recalibrated the idle, accelerated idle and power valve, haven’t had a chance to ride it again but first race it rode awesome. Mine seems to load up when warming it up which I wouldn’t think it would do but overall just waiting for the Bluetooth “app” and hopefully we can clear codes that way. Currently running mine 50:1 but was waiting until 5ish hours to change oil and coolant 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
I have a motocross yz250 04 model. Has the woods pipe but that's about it. Should I get the new yz 250x or the 2023 ktm xc 300? I ride open class enduro in Alabama woods. If that helps. Thanks
the fuel pickup is legit tho .... how often are ya NOT fightin front wheel gravity issues? welll tilt tank backwards into git gone position and fuel gonna be there
Is there a lot of pipe bang with the stock head geometry? I have a lot of pipe bang on my 22 gasgas ec 250 stock. From what I have seen it’s a combustion inefficiency not a jetting issue.
What has the engine builder said about you running 40:1 The only reason is your raising the compression by running that ratio plus you are having a high compression insert made. Will you be running different fuel?
Kelsey likes even more oil than 40:1. I am only raising compression up to close to what it would be at sea level so I won’t be using any race gas up here. Now if I go to lower elevations I probably will have to use some race gas.
Is it possible to run a front and rear light, plus also adding a hooter???, as then it wouldn't require you to shout or holler to get the attention of a rider ahead, so as to try and pass on a single trail, as I noticed you had to do in that race you did. You can get lights on other models I know but wanted those benefits while still have the specific benefits of the XC, or would those items just be to costly and somewhat of a mission to add ??? Asking for a friend....
Amen on the radiator cap!! I thought I was doing something wrong when I checked my coolant for the first time. Not sure why they changed it, I've never had an issue with prior KTM caps. Regarding the fan, I emailed Trail Tech and they advised they won't be selling a fan kit. "They will only be available through KTM. Right now they will probably not be available until sometime next year." Side note, I'm running 60:1 and my spark plug looked pretty much the same when I checked it.
Can you do an in-depth tutorial on air fork suspension set up? I have a 2023 250 xc and come from the mountain biking world but would like to see a pro do it. I want to get it dialed in. Thanks.
Bravo for video. When you chang the coolant, How did you bleed air from the system because there is no thermo switch on the head like on previous models. Thanks
How would you recommend the warm up cycle on the 2023 husqvarna tx 300 ? This is my first 2 stroke in 28 years I was a 4 stroke guy for years but trying to return to my old roots 2 stroke.
Hit the cold start knob, let it warm up for a minute or so, turn off the cold start and let it warm til you feel a little heat in the radiator and then go
Maybe there's some sort of pick up tube in the tank where once you've run out of gas in the main part of the tank it uses that lower compartment as a reserve?
The pump is a self priming pump sleds and jet skis and side by sides have the same design.thats why there is a sock on the bottom any amount of fuel is picked up.unless your taking a left turn for miles it will pick up fuel
@@highlandcycles lol it is funny how they pick up every ounce of fuel.not sure if the KTM has a fuel sock on the bottom of the pump but most efi systems have them.
Bike looks sweet! Social D jacket has your review approved by me. If I hadn’t dumped so much cash in guards and whatnot into my 21’ I’d consider it. My buddy got his 23’ couple weeks ago and is impressed as well.
Morgan, my yz250x only gets 10-13mpg at a 40A pace in a hare scramble. I have to gas up during every race. Trail ride/training pace I get 20-25 mpg depending on the day. Keep ripping🤙
i don't know about you but when my filter gets wet, I assume that water would pull the dirt deep into/ through the filter, and with that water is dirt. So I always clean/ swap my filter after i see it got wet. What do you guys do?
I am in the same boat. Exact same boat lol. I asked the question on a group page and the winner was the YZ because of Cost and the Suspension is supposed to be way better.
@@MR.TOYBOX yeah suspension on these Yamahas are incredible I actually just spent a few bucks on my Mx bike making it better for woods think I’m gonna hang on to it
I bought a 125 xc 2023 it came out of the box at my house, I mounted it and everything and then I turned it on and ran it, I didn't heat it up and then I turned it off. I turned it on again and it turned off. and when I checked, the spark blew out, that motorbike has not even been used for 20 minutes
I have a 2020 Beta 300 and 1 of the rides I do is 62 miles to the gas & last week it died a mile from the gas station. So I just payed the bike totally over on its left side Because I figured that I probably around 4 ounces of residual gas on the right side of the tank. Problem with this new 300 fuel tank is the gas pick up is in the back center of the tank. And I’m getting a 300 SX so I will be fine for a Motocross race and I’m sure Acerbis will come out with something but it’s going to have to be receiving all of its volume towards the top which will make the bike feel top-heavy . So I’m interested to see how the engineering turns out on that item. Also the Betas come stock with the same radiator cap but it’s been basically no problem and I have mine connected up to a Motion Pro Overflow tank and it works great.Now in 2002 we drove two days to Marquette Michigan to do a old school National Enduro and my friend went about 6 miles and went over the handlebars clipped his boot on the radiator cap and that was his day. That’s one thing this new style cap will prevent.
Best coverage as far. Though the combustion isn´t lean enough.The coulor of the piston and sparkplug should be matte milk chocklad brown. Not glosse black. How can you tampre with the TBI injection system. Hope to see more of this.
File the underside AL lugs on the rad for easier removal. Also work the stem of the cap with lube, seems to bind. Pulling 40 watts on the bike, but that's pushing it when I watch the volt meter and check the batt. level with optimate chgr in the garage. Takes 3K to keep it over 14v for battery charging. EarthX 5gtz. KTM post that Acerbis will have a 2.8 tank with some kind of low level fuel feed system to the pump next year. Thanks for posting all your work and taking us through the bike.
No far love mine...tks for comments...any 4 hours. I'm not happy. I got F1 blinking at the dealer. Said coil error???? Want $100 for service...even though with in 30 days...picking up tomorrow.
First ride on my 23 300xc today. Fucking rocketship! I mean.. the throttle response is off the hook. Problem though.. injector warning like started flashing. Ran terrific.. but the warning light flashed all day. You ever experience that?
hey Morgan there is definitely a linkage guard attachment for that skid plate it even has the holes to mount it but it doesn't seem to be available for sale yet or at least I couldn't find it. Aomc has a plate for sale that includes the linkage guard but its not available separately. Hopefully soon.
I would do a Load test to see what the bike uses for Amps for all the electronics (tester between the positive). Then you can do the math and see how much power it uses at low idle. Low RPM/Hard enduro you need a larger stator to get more charge at low RPMS to make sure everything keeps running, KTMs fans usuually will kill the starter, and then electronics/tpi/tbi pumps wont work etc. Also lithiums when they go too low and dead dead the BMS willnot let a charge happen. Happily The 21-23 Shercos have 180 watt stator with almost zero load from garbage electronics, and the Fans run at 170F and rarley turn off keeping the bike nice and cool with alot of buffer before you overheat the bike. Hope people dont get bit bad by 1st gen TBIs and dealers/KTM leave them to hang out to dry again. But dont worry that $1k GET ECU and $1k suspension will solve all the problems your $13k CAD KTM has. Brutal!
You have me wanting one of these bad. Sold my 350 xcf over the weekend and still have a 300 xcw. I like riding the gnar and the fast stuff and I’m thinking I can do both with this bike. Now if I can just find one at a dealer!
Rode some gnarly bootleg mt single track hard yesterday on the 300XC. Loved being able to grab some throttle and grazing over the tops of roots. Have fork comp clickers all out and half way on rebound. 2 out on hs shock. Weigh 195 shock felt a little harsh with the little .42. But... I can tell this bike will surpass my 2020 six days having kreft valving with some fork changes not sure if just a good woods stack will do it with the AER doubtful. Had a blast though much faster than the W half the time just need a spring and changes to forks to surpass. Loved the green fast map in the woods not a problem. Tons of traction similar to my pds with starcross soft. my 2 cents lol
@@wfo_racer man that’s awesome to hear. I have 19 six days with cone valves and I love it in the slow stuff but this new motor sounds like it’ll blip over a mountain.
That fuel tank design looks problematic when you run out of fuel & can’t get the fuel to the pump! Plastic rad cap would be garbaged once a good aftermarket one comes. No way of adjusting the power valve now or is it electronically adjusted?
More oil equals more lube and equals better ring seal and equals more power. Also equals leaner fuel mixture which equals more crisp throttle. I haven’t fouled one plug yet and lots of people have.
I hear ya. I my finger nail can feel them though. And I can tell the difference between some carbon and a scratch especially on a brand new motor. I have a special pick I use to really feel for scratches.
Great video! Just to help educate some, all KTM’s, with the exception of the 50’s, come from KTM with Motorex’s Sport Max mineral oil in the engine. That’s both 2 and 4 stroke motorcycles and on and off road bikes. That is their “break in” oil. The idea behind it is with it not being as slick as the synthetic oil it helps rings seat in and everything kinda wear together a little harder than normal just where everything is new. That’s what KTM dealership services technician told me personally. Thanks for the awesome video!
I bet they'll be a silicone "Y" coolant hose that someone will start selling. Crazy how that tank is pumped and has lower sump that'll never get used... brings back memories of YZ450F IMS tanks that went lower than the carb bowl...
If were mine, I would cut a piece of either innertube or a piece of foam, then lay over the fuel pump area to keep crud off of the area. Also I made my own linkage guard out of HDPE black and a mapp torch to heat and put the angle in it. I would ride the bike without adding gas and see if what Taco mentioned actually will let you run the tank dry. I also doubt it. That battery is a concern at 9.8 at start up, I agree I rather see 14 above idle, hope the batteries they send are good enough.
Looks like the stator, rotor and voltage regulator part numbers are the same as the 23 sx, maybe power output is not as high as the exc's or previous xc's?
Because more oil in premix means bike runs lean. Ecu compensates by throwing more fuel in. That said I doubt you’ll get much better than 7-8 mile to a litre when in the pipe, which would be 26-30 mpg (usgal)
@@smokinrider you're right that more oil in the gas means the bike is running a little leaner, but the ECU isn't compensating. it doesn't know it's running leaner. There's no O2 sensors etc
who is willing to run their bike gas tank dry to stress test the fuel pump? would be an interesting question to answer at the cost of "don't ride this bike too far from home!"
@@highlandcycles Thanks for bringing this design flaw to light on the XC tank. Since our bikes run on premix, any reduction in fuel flow (intermittently) will result in lean mixtures and interruption of the premix oil. Not good for long life of a two stroke.
Jrod fpv its not a diesel engine it's a two-stroke running it out of fuel won't hurt it it's not the best thing to do for the fuel pump but it won't hurt it the first few times running it out it's just like running a normal carbureted two-stroke out of gas it just stops running until you mix up another batch and throw it in and start it up🤷♂️‼️
Looking to get a 250 or 300 xc next spring. Do you think it would be wise to wait for the 2024 model, in case there are any revisions/changes/improvements based on user experience with the 2023 (as the 2023 year is the first year in a new generation bike)? I'm assuming that the 250 and 300 are very close overall, and the main differences would be weight, power, piston and mapping? My riding style would be 75% pit and trail/woods riding, and 25% motocross (entry-intermediate level). Would this be a good bike for my riding style? I'd be curious to see if you're able to sort out something for the fuel delivery, as I agree, it would be nice to have a "syphon" coming to the lower left hand side of the tank. Looking forward to more content, you seem to cover things in great detail.
Connor find ANY bikes in Michigan. No dealers have any stock since the “plandemic” . Dealers have been telling me they don’t know when they will get stock .
Just got a new 2023 300xc about a month ago. I am in love. 2nd time riding it, I tore my ACL at about 3 mph. Had surgery last week and hope to be back to riding in 3 to 4 months. So for now, all I can do is watch videos.
I’m 53 but I’m not quitting.
Little O
4hrs on my 23 300XC. No issues except for a blink code that disappeared in the woods before I could start counting. Watching your mods closely and looking forward to AER mods. Looking to reduce the high speed compression for 3 inch plus root compliance but not give up much on whoops etc. Great to watch you working and riding on our bike. Kind Regards, Sid
Thanks. Only putting a head on. If it fouls anything up it’s coming off immediately.
Mine did the same thing. At idle I have 5 slow blinks which is something with the power valve
@@justincallahan1833 I talked to someone else. Try resetting thenPV with the dongle that came with the bike
@@highlandcycles yeah I did actually try that. It unfortunately didn’t go away. I did foul a plug on the first ride, (babying it too much I think) and replaced the plug with a br7es in the trail. (That’s all I had.) Wondering if that’s too hot of plug. If the computer can tell since one of the “possibilities” under exhaust valve. One option is “temperature to high”
@@justincallahan1833 hmmm not sure. I don’t think it’s that sophisticated
Whad UP! Got mine 2 days ago, taking out tomorrow for the first ride, my first brand new bike, never been this excited! Previous bike is a XCF 350 "17 model
YEAH!!
I now give a thumbs up before I have watched most of your videos.
For my area of riding I am liking the Acerbis skidplate with the extension covering the rear linkage.
Break-in oil agree 1,000%. Over 80 years ago automobiles use to have "break-in oil" due to the way the engines were made. Nothing uses break-in oil since then.
So the 2023 does not have the coolant thermostat crap assembly like the TPI's had.
I lke how the 1 O'ring sits down so it cannot be accidently moved when installing the head.
best way to help a channels algorithm is to comment and like
Some days I really want an electric start bike, but then I see/hear about fuel pump issues, ECU, etc...and I start being grateful for the simplicity of my '05 300.
Yeah.
I have a husqvarna tx300 (same as xc300). They are awesome bikes.
What up legend..!! Love the channel👌Recently purchased a new “23 KTM 300SX” absolute beast of a bike so far..!!! Aussie owner 🇦🇺🇦🇺
Awesome
Thanks for the detailed teardown on the new KTM! 4.5 hours on my '23 300XC and the engine is impressive. So much low to mid power and roll on torque. The fuel tank design is interesting - we'll see how it works with actual riding. My suspension started to feel much better after 4 hours use - seems to be breaking in - how is your suspension working and do you feel any difference in frame compliance after 10 hours use?
Enjoyed all your 300 xc videos as well. Tided me over till I could pick up mine.
I love it so far!!
What do you think of the bike after a year? Any issues?
@mxengineer1
@@bradleymuha4861 I actually sold mine with about 16 hours use - no issues. I picked up a 23 Husky TX300 Heritage Edition (really like the retro look) and that bike has about 16 hours so far with no issues. I did install some WP Pro Component suspension but otherwise stock. Very fun bike!
That's a rad jacket man. Each time I've gone to see Social D I always wanted to pick up the service coat. The bikes ok.
Hahahah
My TPI 300 XCW had 150 hours on it and the cylinder looked every bit as good as your new bike cylinder you showed.
That’s good. Not all of them do
Question what is your warm up sequence? Maybe that’s where the voodoo is.. Thanks
@@highlandcycles 1. not everyone knows how to oil an air filter 2. not everyone knows how to warm up a TPI.
@@onthethrottle7104 yep
10:24 the owner's manual states 60:1 for the 250/300 not 40:1, air/fuel ratio is therfore leaner. Not trying to be a smart ass, just noticed it. Probably you know and choose to add more oil. Would be intreresting if the new EFI is adjusting to such variables.
I definitely know that they call for 60:1. The biggest reason I run 40:1 is that my kids bikes all call for 32:1 so I figure 40 is an easy meet in the middle so I don’t have to carry multiple cans. I don’t think the EFI system is sophisticated enough to know
@@highlandcycles Nice to hear your kids enjoy riding as well. Makes sense to keep things simple. Glad to know this works for you this way
I just got the 2023 250sx. Havnt really got to ride it yet.It felt amazing in the yard.
So good
My 24 fouled a plug coming down a long rough downhill. Has about 6 hours on it. Lots of sponge on the tailpipe. Wondering if going from 60/1 down to 50/1 or 40/1 would help it? Seems pretty rich at least down low. Thanks
They are very rich. Newest KTM map helps but the best setup is the TSP head and ecu tune.
Ive only ran 50:1 in my 23 300xc even on break in. Motorex only. No splooge either baby
How does the electronic power valve work? What is actually moving it? A tiny electric motor? Some type of solenoid?
It’s a servo motor moving it
Love the jacket Morgan. and the new bike.
Thanks
Hey im watching your videos becasue my tx300 this past Saturday just would not fire. i just had my stator rewound by Ricky, added a baja designs wiring harness to run a squadron pro. After i installed all that i tested it around my neighborhood. Fired right up. Went riding with my buddy no issues unitl we stopped at a trailhead, i hit thr stop button then when we were ready to go again i hit the start button and it would just turn and turn. No sprak. Ive checked all fuses all good. The odometer i noticed does not turn on either. If i remember correctly it would show me hours when you hit the start button. Any ideas???
The hour meter is supposed to turn on. I would check the relay that turns all the power on. The button spins the motor, that spins the flywheel and the sensor goes past the pickup coil and that actually triggers a relay that turns all the power on to the fuel pump and ignition. Could also be an issue with the pickup coil.
Where is the relay that turns all the power on? Also do you think the rewound stator could be a cause of the problem? Like in your videos you can find the issue but need to know why something is happening.
Actually I did find the relay and checked the fuse. It's all good but don't know if the relay is bad.
@@frankortiz8249 I doubt that the rewound stator is the issue but maybe on install you pinched a pickup coil wire? I would check in there again just to be safe. The relay is one of those under the seat. I’m not sure which one. To check if that circuit is the issue, bump the start button and listen for the fuel pump. If it doesn’t turn on then you have a power supply problem. Either relay, pickup coil, or wiring in between.
do you think we will be fouling plugs riding at low rpms, bogging the bike, with it not being a TPI bike??
Haven’t yet b
Tpi still foul up at low rpm on a 20h+ head
what is your opinion on the TPI Bikes? Internal engine wear with it running rich and or lean at start up and how to combat the lack of oil that would be in the piston at start up. maybe running a few drops of Castor in the fuel pre mixed to help lubricate. I love the 300 XC W for where I ride but just have a few worries, I currently ride a 2009 yz250 that I have made into a Woods machine but I want a Bike that is actually made for that, better lower end grunt.
The cheap way to take care of the TPI is making sure you warm it up properly. If you blip the throttle on warm up you’ll damage it. They need a while before oil is where it needs to be. The cool way to make it bad ass is the TSP split injection kit b
@@highlandcycles is that the TSP Power Kit? just looked it up. I am new to Ktm products. I have been riding Yamaha for over 20 years.
@@jetdr Yes, the Power kit with the IRK Injector Relocation kit too.
What rear brake tip are you running. One of the first things i noticed on my 23. Was how tight to the case and small that tip feels.
Now I’m using the Carapaks one. It’s small too but super sharp. I like them smaller and close in so I don’t smash them in the rocks. System Tech Racing makes a sweet larger one.
I’ve got 3hrs on my 23 xc250 had the 5 flash code which cleared on its own when an ignition code came on, took it to spykes bikes and they recalibrated the idle, accelerated idle and power valve, haven’t had a chance to ride it again but first race it rode awesome. Mine seems to load up when warming it up which I wouldn’t think it would do but overall just waiting for the Bluetooth “app” and hopefully we can clear codes that way. Currently running mine 50:1 but was waiting until 5ish hours to change oil and coolant 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
What size socket for the spark plug
Same as every two stroke 13/16”
Is there a good plug to run with my 2018 300xc with rk tech head pump gas no. Ethanol ?
BR7ES
@@highlandcycles that's what I'm using now. I'll stick with it. Thanks your videos help out keep it up.👍
Love the jacket!
I have a motocross yz250 04 model. Has the woods pipe but that's about it. Should I get the new yz 250x or the 2023 ktm xc 300? I ride open class enduro in Alabama woods. If that helps. Thanks
Honestly, get the 300
@@highlandcycles Thank you.
the fuel pickup is legit tho .... how often are ya NOT fightin front wheel gravity issues? welll tilt tank backwards into git gone position and fuel gonna be there
Question 1) Does the cooling system use a thermostat? 2) What are the gold rings on the right fork for?
No thermostat, that is my CounterShox
Is there a lot of pipe bang with the stock head geometry? I have a lot of pipe bang on my 22 gasgas ec 250 stock. From what I have seen it’s a combustion inefficiency not a jetting issue.
None
What has the engine builder said about you running 40:1 The only reason is your raising the compression by running that ratio plus you are having a high compression insert made. Will you be running different fuel?
Kelsey likes even more oil than 40:1. I am only raising compression up to close to what it would be at sea level so I won’t be using any race gas up here. Now if I go to lower elevations I probably will have to use some race gas.
Is it possible to run a front and rear light, plus also adding a hooter???, as then it wouldn't require you to shout or holler to get the attention of a rider ahead, so as to try and pass on a single trail, as I noticed you had to do in that race you did.
You can get lights on other models I know but wanted those benefits while still have the specific benefits of the XC, or would those items just be to costly and somewhat of a mission to add ???
Asking for a friend....
The guys at True North Motos is building a harness that will make it possible
Amen on the radiator cap!! I thought I was doing something wrong when I checked my coolant for the first time. Not sure why they changed it, I've never had an issue with prior KTM caps.
Regarding the fan, I emailed Trail Tech and they advised they won't be selling a fan kit. "They will only be available through KTM. Right now they will probably not be available until sometime next year."
Side note, I'm running 60:1 and my spark plug looked pretty much the same when I checked it.
Nice
Also, the difference between 40 and 60 to 1 is really small
Can you do an in-depth tutorial on air fork suspension set up? I have a 2023 250 xc and come from the mountain biking world but would like to see a pro do it. I want to get it dialed in. Thanks.
Yes. Will be tearing them apart soon.
Bravo for video.
When you chang the coolant, How did you bleed air from the system because there is no thermo switch on the head like on previous models. Thanks
I just leave the cap off and run it.
How would you recommend the warm up cycle on the 2023 husqvarna tx 300 ? This is my first 2 stroke in 28 years I was a 4 stroke guy for years but trying to return to my old roots 2 stroke.
Hit the cold start knob, let it warm up for a minute or so, turn off the cold start and let it warm til you feel a little heat in the radiator and then go
Thanks 😊
Bonus points for Social Distortion jacket. Picking up a 23 TX Heritage Edition tomorrow.
Sick
Maybe there's some sort of pick up tube in the tank where once you've run out of gas in the main part of the tank it uses that lower compartment as a reserve?
Is the hole same size on the head for the ccps as a tpi ? Could do that mod as it would be easier to get to if it fails
Not sure. I’ll have to take it off.
@@highlandcycles that would be great 👍
The pump is a self priming pump sleds and jet skis and side by sides have the same design.thats why there is a sock on the bottom any amount of fuel is picked up.unless your taking a left turn for miles it will pick up fuel
Yeah. We aren’t used to those in this world.
@@highlandcycles lol it is funny how they pick up every ounce of fuel.not sure if the KTM has a fuel sock on the bottom of the pump but most efi systems have them.
@@denniswilder3014 it does. It works well as long as your bumping around.
Bike looks sweet! Social D jacket has your review approved by me. If I hadn’t dumped so much cash in guards and whatnot into my 21’ I’d consider it. My buddy got his 23’ couple weeks ago and is impressed as well.
They are amazing, oh and the bikes are good too! Social D!!
Great video 👍
Morgan, my yz250x only gets 10-13mpg at a 40A pace in a hare scramble. I have to gas up during every race. Trail ride/training pace I get 20-25 mpg depending on the day. Keep ripping🤙
Yeah, it’s not the end of the world. I’d just love to be able to get a full race without gassing.
Have you checked fuel range yet? Ran it dry?
That red knob on shock is rebound? How do you turn it?
Yeah. I have a couple videos on range and you have to use a screwdriver for the rebound which is funny. Go to our 300XC playlist for a ton of tests
@@highlandcycles I see Bartman got 73 miles on the 23 250xc which is promising.
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@@highlandcycles Watched that this morning. Thank you for putting it together.
That charging voltage is oddly low. My sherco is right at 14.55 volts as soon as it fires up, regardless of rpm.
Yeah. That’s what I think too. I’m digging further into it.
Why are you running 40:1 vs 60:1? I’m just wondering because I haven’t decided what I want to run mine at yet.
Better lube, better ring seal and leaner fuel ratio. Bike runs great
Looking at getting ready to purchase one in march. How hard is it to remove the tank
Not hard at all.
How many hours are you planning to replace the top end?
Shooting for 100hrs
i don't know about you but when my filter gets wet, I assume that water would pull the dirt deep into/ through the filter, and with that water is dirt. So I always clean/ swap my filter after i see it got wet. What do you guys do?
Depends on the ride and how much dirt. It was soaking wet and no dust so I think it will be good. Different if it gets wet then dusty
Been riding a Mx yz250 for enduro/woods riding I’m not sure if I want to get an X or a 300 ktm lol so much price difference
I am in the same boat. Exact same boat lol. I asked the question on a group page and the winner was the YZ because of Cost and the Suspension is supposed to be way better.
@@MR.TOYBOX yeah suspension on these Yamahas are incredible I actually just spent a few bucks on my Mx bike making it better for woods think I’m gonna hang on to it
@@mikeking7388 I am selling my wr450 yz250 and getting 23 xc 300 ! Final decision 😂
@@MR.TOYBOX not a bad decision!
I bought a 125 xc 2023 it came out of the box at my house, I mounted it and everything and then I turned it on and ran it, I didn't heat it up and then I turned it off. I turned it on again and it turned off. and when I checked, the spark blew out, that motorbike has not even been used for 20 minutes
That sucks
I have a 2020 Beta 300 and 1 of the rides I do is 62 miles to the gas & last week it died a mile from the gas station. So I just payed the bike totally over on its left side Because I figured that I probably around 4 ounces of residual gas on the right side of the tank. Problem with this new 300 fuel tank is the gas pick up is in the back center of the tank. And I’m getting a 300 SX so I will be fine for a Motocross race and I’m sure Acerbis will come out with something but it’s going to have to be receiving all of its volume towards the top which will make the bike feel top-heavy . So I’m interested to see how the engineering turns out on that item. Also the Betas come stock with the same radiator cap but it’s been basically no problem and I have mine connected up to a Motion Pro Overflow tank and it works great.Now in 2002 we drove two days to Marquette Michigan to do a old school National Enduro and my friend went about 6 miles and went over the handlebars clipped his boot on the radiator cap and that was his day. That’s one thing this new style cap will prevent.
The Beta rad cap is different. It’s easy to undo. This takes pushing down super hard. The gas tank situation is going to be interesting
It looks like the exhaust is higher. (more ground clearance) Is that what you see?
Yes. It is tucked further up for sure
What did you actually do to the head?
Just measured deck height and Kelsey made us a custom head
Anyone have the 3 short 7 long blink codes on their 2023 300xc?
Best coverage as far. Though the combustion isn´t lean enough.The coulor of the piston and sparkplug should be matte milk chocklad brown. Not glosse black. How can you tampre with the TBI injection system. Hope to see more of this.
Thanks. Not sure about changing anything yet. It’s all so new
You put 10 hours on the break in oil? Is that what they call for in the manual?
Yes, they say first oil change at 10hrs
Does an aftermarket radiator cap from the 22 models fit on the new bikes?
No
No
What 2t oil are you running? I think I heard you say your running 40:1. I know the call for 60:1 but it’s because of the recommended motorex oil.
I run motorex.
I'd love to try that motor in a trx250r trail build.
File the underside AL lugs on the rad for easier removal. Also work the stem of the cap with lube, seems to bind. Pulling 40 watts on the bike, but that's pushing it when I watch the volt meter and check the batt. level with optimate chgr in the garage. Takes 3K to keep it over 14v for battery charging. EarthX 5gtz. KTM post that Acerbis will have a 2.8 tank with some kind of low level fuel feed system to the pump next year. Thanks for posting all your work and taking us through the bike.
Cool. IMS will have a tank with a low pickup soon.
No far love mine...tks for comments...any 4 hours. I'm not happy. I got F1 blinking at the dealer. Said coil error????
Want $100 for service...even though with in 30 days...picking up tomorrow.
That sucks. I have that same code. I’m just running with it
Does anyone make a higher output stator for these things yet?
Not that I know of
For SX are you not a fan of the recommended 60:1?
Either mix works. I have run both and the bike runs the same. I just like a little more oil.
@@highlandcycles thanks! Any word on if they make high temp radiator caps for this new style yet?
@@mikemajor5291 don’t think so.
Would you not get sediment and debris collecting in the low points of the tank where the fuel pump does not draw from?
Don’t know yet
KTM is champ of reinventing the wheel, and it’s not broke so let’s really fix it!
Hahahaha I agree. But this thing is really good
Kinda off topic, but what’s your opinion on Amsoil 2 stroke?
I like the dominator
First ride on my 23 300xc today. Fucking rocketship! I mean.. the throttle response is off the hook. Problem though.. injector warning like started flashing. Ran terrific.. but the warning light flashed all day. You ever experience that?
No. What was the sequence of flashes?
Great coat! Saw Social Distortion last year at Aftershock. Haha
Yeah
hey Morgan there is definitely a linkage guard attachment for that skid plate it even has the holes to mount it but it doesn't seem to be available for sale yet or at least I couldn't find it. Aomc has a plate for sale that includes the linkage guard but its not available separately. Hopefully soon.
Right on. I really like the stock plate so I’d like to keep it and attach a skid
@@highlandcycles yeah same the stock plate is pretty nice.
the fuel pump location is just an incentive to learn to ride a wheelie if you get low on fuel!
Yes!!!
I would do a Load test to see what the bike uses for Amps for all the electronics (tester between the positive). Then you can do the math and see how much power it uses at low idle.
Low RPM/Hard enduro you need a larger stator to get more charge at low RPMS to make sure everything keeps running, KTMs fans usuually will kill the starter, and then electronics/tpi/tbi pumps wont work etc. Also lithiums when they go too low and dead dead the BMS willnot let a charge happen.
Happily The 21-23 Shercos have 180 watt stator with almost zero load from garbage electronics, and the Fans run at 170F and rarley turn off keeping the bike nice and cool with alot of buffer before you overheat the bike.
Hope people dont get bit bad by 1st gen TBIs and dealers/KTM leave them to hang out to dry again.
But dont worry that $1k GET ECU and $1k suspension will solve all the problems your $13k CAD KTM has. Brutal!
So far, this bike has been a dream. I haven’t ridden anything this good ever. I am expecting bugs since it’s new but so far it’s been flawless.
My last 2stk was carb’d is there anything special about warming up these fuel injected smokers?
Just let them get heat in the radiator before you take off.
You have me wanting one of these bad. Sold my 350 xcf over the weekend and still have a 300 xcw. I like riding the gnar and the fast stuff and I’m thinking I can do both with this bike. Now if I can just find one at a dealer!
Rode some gnarly bootleg mt single track hard yesterday on the 300XC. Loved being able to grab some throttle and grazing over the tops of roots. Have fork comp clickers all out and half way on rebound. 2 out on hs shock. Weigh 195 shock felt a little harsh with the little .42. But... I can tell this bike will surpass my 2020 six days having kreft valving with some fork changes not sure if just a good woods stack will do it with the AER doubtful. Had a blast though much faster than the W half the time just need a spring and changes to forks to surpass. Loved the green fast map in the woods not a problem. Tons of traction similar to my pds with starcross soft. my 2 cents lol
@@wfo_racer man that’s awesome to hear. I have 19 six days with cone valves and I love it in the slow stuff but this new motor sounds like it’ll blip over a mountain.
Washington state, Bellingham
This bike is finally the can do it all bike and very well. If I was you I’d buy one when you can find one in stock somewhere.
Gotta love Social D! ❤
Hell yeah
That fuel tank design looks problematic when you run out of fuel & can’t get the fuel to the pump! Plastic rad cap would be garbaged once a good aftermarket one comes. No way of adjusting the power valve now or is it electronically adjusted?
It is electronically adjusted. Which is cool because the map switch controls it but scary because its electronic.
@@highlandcycles I kinda prefer mechanical for that too.
Why do you mix 40-1 is it 60-1
More oil equals more lube and equals better ring seal and equals more power. Also equals leaner fuel mixture which equals more crisp throttle. I haven’t fouled one plug yet and lots of people have.
Also you can tell a mechanic from a motor guy.your finger can't feel small scratches.use a ball point pen you can feel the cross hatch marks
I hear ya. I my finger nail can feel them though. And I can tell the difference between some carbon and a scratch especially on a brand new motor. I have a special pick I use to really feel for scratches.
@@highlandcycles try a Bic ball point pen.just run it over the crosshatch.
@@denniswilder3014 will do
Great video! Just to help educate some, all KTM’s, with the exception of the 50’s, come from KTM with Motorex’s Sport Max mineral oil in the engine. That’s both 2 and 4 stroke motorcycles and on and off road bikes. That is their “break in” oil. The idea behind it is with it not being as slick as the synthetic oil it helps rings seat in and everything kinda wear together a little harder than normal just where everything is new. That’s what KTM dealership services technician told me personally. Thanks for the awesome video!
Thanks for the info
Lol, how exactly does 2 stroke TRANSMISSION oil help rings seat in???
@@thatoneguy2756 hahaha I think he means in the 4T bikes but yeah 😂🤣
I bet they'll be a silicone "Y" coolant hose that someone will start selling. Crazy how that tank is pumped and has lower sump that'll never get used... brings back memories of YZ450F IMS tanks that went lower than the carb bowl...
Sand will suck down more gas than hard pack. it looked like it was way more sand than hard pack. Congratulations on the win.
Oh yeah. Sand is hard on fuel mileage for sure. Thanks
That cap looks like the one i got for my 1090 R, weird.
If were mine, I would cut a piece of either innertube or a piece of foam, then lay over the fuel pump area to keep crud off of the area. Also I made my own linkage guard out of HDPE black and a mapp torch to heat and put the angle in it. I would ride the bike without adding gas and see if what Taco mentioned actually will let you run the tank dry. I also doubt it. That battery is a concern at 9.8 at start up, I agree I rather see 14 above idle, hope the batteries they send are good enough.
Yep. Probably ordering an anti gravity soon.
It's interesting that they didn't publish the stator output in the owners manual. Every other bike I've checked listed it.
I know
Looks like the stator, rotor and voltage regulator part numbers are the same as the 23 sx, maybe power output is not as high as the exc's or previous xc's?
@@neilstockton7602 that’s what I’m thinking. We will be testing it heavily
That head stamped 300sx solidifies my thought that it only makes sense to have xc/sx engines identical except for tranny.
Any update on the voltage/charging? If the bike can’t handle the load created by a fan it’s pretty much useless for slower technical riding.
No update yet
do you think your mileage could be cut short because of the ratio of mix you are running? maybe try the recommended and compare fuel mileage
I’m going to. I don’t see how it would change it that much. But I’m going to try it.
Because more oil in premix means bike runs lean. Ecu compensates by throwing more fuel in.
That said I doubt you’ll get much better than 7-8 mile to a litre when in the pipe, which would be 26-30 mpg (usgal)
@@smokinrider you're right that more oil in the gas means the bike is running a little leaner, but the ECU isn't compensating. it doesn't know it's running leaner. There's no O2 sensors etc
@@smokinrider yeah. And the difference between 40 and 60:1 is very small.
How come you don't run caster 927?
Just landed on Motorex a while back and like it
Clotz oil ftw
You’re mixing it 40-1?
Yep
@@highlandcycles cool I’m going to do the same with my SX in the spring when I can ride it. I’ve never subscribed to a lean oil mixture.
@@warrenyoung7503 me neither. It doesn’t make sense
So are there at least some tubes running down into the tank for the pick up? Seems like an odd place for the pump.
Gas mileage is also kinda a bummer. Basically what my yz gets
No their aren’t. It’s concerning
@@highlandcycles very much so I don’t see how it wouldn’t be starved for fuel at times. But hey I guess with the bad mpg it’s gotta be going somewhere
@@jamesoso259 it definitely is.
It's a bummer about the iffy fuel pump and range. I can give that to my TPI even though I hate its 1/4 throttle bog: it gets insane range.
I agree. We will find out
Aren't you supposed to be using 60:1 oil? Not 40:1? That doesn't sound like a great idea if you have no way to tune it yet.
I use 40:1 on my 125💀
What up! lol I wish I had one !
The skid plate isn't as tough as you might think. I built a link guard for the one on my 350 and broke the skid plate the next ride.
Dang
Definitely not a big deal but I like the look of the frame on my 22 compared to the 23.
Agm battery or standard lithium ? If it's agm then they need a lower charge voltage I think
Haven’t checked but says lithium.
Extra punk rock jacket on today and the burn looks prime 🤘
🤘🏻🤘🏻
lol the 10 hr check, how many until your wheel bearings fail
Haha
Let's hope they make the app controller backward compatible, I have the connection on my 350 but they quit making the original unit!
This or the Beta?
Depends on what you want to do. KTM is better at speed, beta is better at technical
wait, if I change cylinder head on sx250 I'll get 250 exc motor? :) wow.
Haha. Gotta change a few more things but it’s actually not bad.
who is willing to run their bike gas tank dry to stress test the fuel pump? would be an interesting question to answer at the cost of "don't ride this bike too far from home!"
I’m going to.
@@highlandcycles Thanks for bringing this design flaw to light on the XC tank. Since our bikes run on premix, any reduction in fuel flow (intermittently) will result in lean mixtures and interruption of the premix oil. Not good for long life of a two stroke.
@@highlandcycles either that bike puked the coolant or it was low when new.....either way it was low on coolant.
@@thatoneguy2756 that’s what I think and I never had it over heat
Jrod fpv its not a diesel engine it's a two-stroke running it out of fuel won't hurt it it's not the best thing to do for the fuel pump but it won't hurt it the first few times running it out it's just like running a normal carbureted two-stroke out of gas it just stops running until you mix up another batch and throw it in and start it up🤷♂️‼️
Looking to get a 250 or 300 xc next spring. Do you think it would be wise to wait for the 2024 model, in case there are any revisions/changes/improvements based on user experience with the 2023 (as the 2023 year is the first year in a new generation bike)?
I'm assuming that the 250 and 300 are very close overall, and the main differences would be weight, power, piston and mapping?
My riding style would be 75% pit and trail/woods riding, and 25% motocross (entry-intermediate level). Would this be a good bike for my riding style?
I'd be curious to see if you're able to sort out something for the fuel delivery, as I agree, it would be nice to have a "syphon" coming to the lower left hand side of the tank.
Looking forward to more content, you seem to cover things in great detail.
I would wait. I bought the first year because of the channel and our shop. I need to stay current. I think you’d love one
Connor find ANY bikes in Michigan. No dealers have any stock since the “plandemic” . Dealers have been telling me they don’t know when they will get stock .
@@johnberry2877 I believe Trojan power sports has one