Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark (OMD) - Enola Gay | Het verhaal achter het nummer | Top2000 a gogo
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- In het Imperial War Museum in Duxford (Engeland) doen we een interview met muzikant Andy McCluskey van Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark over het nummer 'Enola Gay'.
Een reportage van Top 2000 a gogo uit 2022.
WOW! What a treat this show is! INCREDIBLE! Thank you so much for doing these!
You Duchies do well with these videos. Love the moral dilemma angle.
The first time I saw OMD and heard the song Enola Gay was in the movie "URGH! A Music War - 1980" Loved it.
Andy's so ecstatic in his visit
I'm Dutch, I so like this man he looks way better older lol, OMD is brilliant. UK music is great. As a teen I listened all the time. My favi is 'so in love ' the music is amazing together with the lyrics. 😎💛
Nou, als je de zanger van OMD live wilt zien, OMD treedt op de veerboot van IJmuiden-Newcastle. Dus boek een retourtje voor een weekend Newcastle. Een vriend van mij heeft dat gedaan.
@@mardiffv.8775 gaat nu niet voor mij. Ik woon sinds 8 maanden in Spanje lol
As always - top videos. Song that defined my adolescence. Very thoughtful video. Thanks.
No way! How wonderful to hear about the iconic tune! Thank you for this, and this whole series :D
That synthesizer run is perfect
That's fascinating. Always loved the song, what a wonderful way of delivering the story.
The Man, the Machine, the Song behind the Machine by the Man.
You're a great songwriter Mr. Andy McCluskey ( and Paul Humphreys ). Top 80's band and always a relevant song there with Enola Gay.
He looks better now than he did in the 80s ! Fascinating vid. Thanks..Like many I loved the song at school but never made the connection.
Another great piece, and a nice angle on the song. Many thanks.
Amazing comment by McCluskey ! I always took that meaning from the song. That they were making a reference to the sheer madness of the war and it’s implications.
Keep these videos coming, thank you
Enola Gay is at the National Air and Space Museum, Dulles, Washington DC
Great stuff 👏 👍 👌
Saw OMD in Sydney on NYE 1984-5. An amazing concert.
Glad you enjoyed it but they are poor live in my opinion.
@@eightiesmusic1984 I saw them for the 1st time last year - they were most excellent!
@@eightiesmusic1984They are not. They are sublime on stage. You just don't have the good ears or mindset.
@@ethan2209 I have seen them live. Not impressed.
@@eightiesmusic1984 Your loss dude.
Since Waltz with Bashir It's hard for me to think of both seperately ! A great song in a fantastic film.
Merci for having me look up Antropomorfisme, 1 new word learned today.😊
I'll forever associate Peter Thomas' war narration voice with Paul Hardcastle's "19."
Same, funny hehe
Nice!
Iconic track
great great song didnt know the singer was fascinated with ww2 stuff very interesting 😊☺❤👍
Awesome!!
If it is you or them, it’s them… 🤗
according Song Facts :"The BBC misperceived "Enola Gay" as being a homosexual love song and banned it on the kids' show Swap Shop. "..... Goodness me , what NuttHeads !!😵
It's 8.15 - and that's the time that's it's always been.
@2:44 That voiceover sounds exactly like the one used in Paul Hardcastle's "19". Is it the same one or just some standard way American voiceovers sounded in those days? (ruclips.net/video/b3LdMAqUMnM/видео.html)
I think it was No 1 in Italy.
on the TV show on NPO the interview was a bit longer...
Pity, but better than nothing I suppose.
No, this was the exact version as on tv… But next year in The Untold Stories we will use more of this interview!
@@Top2000agogo: EXCELLENT! Thank you for the response!
Buddy Holly without glasses.
As horrendous as it was it was absolutely the right thing. One need only see what happened during the invasion of Okinawa and the wholesale sacrificing of the civilian population there by the Japanese military and leadership, including using civilians as human shields, mobilizing schoolchildren, driving civilians to mass suicide, etc. The final bombs were an immense blessing for the Japanese, shortening the hell of that war by at least a year, saving the complete destruction of their homeland and saving millions of lives (as he points out near the end of the video). The event was not morally black and white, and people aren't knowledgeable enough about it today.
Knowledgeable enough to know what is a Western narrative. The truth is that the Japanese didn't surrender because of the atomic bombs (only). The ultimate trigger was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.
"Japan was already defeated and dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary. It wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing."
Dwight D. Eisenhower
@@aitortilla5128 Wow, an 80 year later arm chair quarterback fool!
You are right, the Japanese Army was training women to use bomboo spears to banzai charge the Americans. That would have been a Japanese bloodbath.
@@aitortilla5128 Given the fact the American casualties became higher and higher with each island that the Americans conquered. Each island was closer to mainland Japan. Even after the bomb on Hiroshima it took the Japanese 10 days to surrender. So the will to fight to last man, woman and child was real in Japan.
The Japanese Army trained girls to fight off the American with bamboo spears. Which would have a bloodbath for those girls against American machine guns and rifles. Trust me, more then 140,000 Japanese would have died in an invasion.
The pilot never expressed any regret or remorse. Shocking and immoral. That is not to say there is not an argument for the bomb being dropped if it ended the war early although in all likelihood it was nearing its end anyway. American arrogance in refusing to apologise is unacceptable. Obama sought to make amends when he visited Japan to mark the anniversary of the attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but the US government should have apologised years earlier.
Even nowadays most Americans and British still defend the use of the nuclear bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. If in the 21st century the majority of Americans still defend its use imagined in WW2.
@@aitortilla5128 Lack of knowledge of history, knee jerk defence of imperial legacy, sheer ignorance and lack of compassion are just some of the reasons for defending it. The winners write the peace in war by shaping the narrative. This conditions the majority to view events through the prism provided for them. Undoubtedly, Japan had to be defeated with the end of the war in the Far East but morally the bomb was not the right means to do it.
You and Tilla are showing your amazing stupidity.
@@jeshkam Ok, but no such word as co-starting.
Why would he ? First, it was a military order you can't disobey, the generals and the president were the ones responsible, the pilot, just a soldier and it was - them, or us.
As Andy says, it's such a gigantic responsibility. Not even one nazi Camp Leader ever killed that many people, what's counting for airmen, was that for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the aim was to shorten the war and stop the fighting instead of the millions that would die if Japan had to be invaded.
Imagine Ukraine could stop the war in a similar way, one go, and it's over, instead of the years of killing we'll be witnessing.
Except, that line of thought, today is no longer acceptabele.
And by the way, Japan itself has _never_ expressed any remorse over it's many many, innumerable acts of cruelty against millions of victims in countries they occupied. It's still a major issue in their relations with today's SE Asian partners.
There are two good documentaries, both called Hiroshima. One is a miniseries from 1995 from the viewpoint of the decision makers, and a BBC one from the viewpoint of the ones dropping the bomb and the Japanese in Hiroshima who saw it and survived. BBC version here: ruclips.net/video/XKerQACkks0/видео.html