Should You Buy a MITSUBISHI Outlander PHEV? (Test Drive & Review 2016 2.0 GX4h)
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I had a 2.4 Phev from new, kept it for 4 years. An utterly brilliant, totally reliable, economical car. Can't recommend them highly enough!
What did you get after you sold it just curious
@padraiggeaney3167 A Toyota Rav4 hybrid. Also, an absolutely amazing car.
Thanks for the reply
@@conesuela1omg that's my DREAM CAR
The fact 38 people have liked a 13 minute long video 3 minutes after it was released is a testament to the quality of this channel
Thanks!
@@HighPeakAutos to be fair the man's got a point. Good content well presented.
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I always like before the video even starts ))
I always like a video after I’ve watched it that makes sense to me
Your videos are so good. Their not just good for the time in 2023, in about 5 years time, if anyone is looking to buy a car like a phev suv, your videos like this will still be relevant and useful. Thanks for putting in the effort for reviewing these cars
Thank you. I appreciate that
I’ve got one. I’ve driven diesel German tanks for 20 year. It was a scary decision, did loads of research, like weeks! Its cosmetically a step backwards, but I love it.
You can drive this on petrol alone and get 45mpg. I do a 70m work round trip, and with a full charge (£0.70p), I get around 25 miles in electric and it’s works out about 70mpg. At the weekend I can do 40/50 miles locally for £1.40.
It’s big, it’s high up, I can take stuff down the dump, the kids love it, it’s quiet and the govt ain’t getting my hard earned cash like they were.
It’s an economical compromise and in these financially screwed times, it’s a gem.
Just to add to this, if you own one, you can sign up to your electric providers cheap EV tariffs and use your dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer at the cheap time. (9.30pm-2am)
Buying this car has kept my family of bills pretty much the same as before the price hikes. I knew what was coming.
Interesting! I was curious about how many miles you'd have to drive to fully charge the battery. The battery charges by driving aswell as plug in, right?
@@tons824 yeah you don’t really need to be using that though. Uses more fuel. If you are towing it’s useful. If you use eco mode, and the save battery function over 40mph, you can get some serious economy from it. It’s a bit like flying a plane at time but you get used to it.
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I once ran mine for 12 weeks without the engine starting and charged for free at work....
But on a trip to Inverness from Manchester it did 34mpg
Your videos are higher quality than many RUclips channels and preferable (to me at least) than many broadcasted shows - props 👌
Wow, thank you!
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I've had this car for just over a year now and it's incredible how in such a short space of time you've managed to sum up the car so well, right down to the rattles, one of which comes from the glovebox and is a very common problem. Very very accurate review.
Thanks for watching
Hi there, ive had my 2016 PHEV for about 5 months now, the rattle i had to, turned out to be where the airbag is 'hooked' using a clip to the vehicle, sales person managed to remove (easily) most of the plastic surrounds and fixed the rattle, its come back, i suspect the quick fix just needs to be redone better this time.
@@stephenspier9590 interesting, on mine it seems to be the glovebox flap itself but some felt pads have only made it slightly quieter.
You can use silicone damping rings (used for computer building) to cure this... Effectively silicone washers.
@@Andrew-tb9vr I've tried a strip of silicone - it didn't work :(
Mate, your channel is the best car review one on RUclips! Honestly.
Excellent facts, realistic reviews, just the right amount of dry humor without slagging off the junk in a nasty way. Excellent!
I'm moving back to the UK after 30 years away and you've given me a decent idea of what cars to look at. Amazing how, for example, a VW or Volvo is here in America ( crap since VW is built in Mexico and I forget where Volvo is built but it's not Sweden) compared to the UK models.
On a side note, I used to visit mates up in Stockport and always had a great time up there!
Cheers and keep up the great job!
I had a 2.4 PHEV. Excellent car, had to be reminded to start the engine after the car was used on short journeys only. Very civilised, practical car. Incredibly reliable. Loved it.
Whilst that might all be true if I woke up in the morning and see that hateful, depressing thing sitting in the driveway I'd immediately kill myself. Or set it on fire
Got the diesel model before this, personally found it very reliable. Like any car, if you want reliability you need to get them serviced and maintained well. Even after a six hour solid drive you step out, and feel refreshed, the seats are very comfortable.
My mum had a 2009 Mitsubishi outlander and had it until 2021 she loved it she had no issues with it at all and it had done 250k miles she cried when she got rid of it it was amazing
Matt. It honestly does not matter what vehicle you are reviewing. You are truly the star of the show with your very engaging narrative. BTW I love a bit of Phil Collins. Please keep the content coming. Simply superb. Sublime, hugely entertaining content
Have had Mitsubishi cars for years, non of them ever left me stranded at the side of the road. Had one of these and it was a joy.
The 2.4 Mivec is a great engine. I regularly tow up to 1.6 ton and mix of highway and urban every day use in a non-hybrid Mitsubishi. Have owned many many many cars in my years and I really rate them.
I had second generation (2008) Outlander,and loved it! It was top spec,leather ,heated seats,sat,voice control etc.Was travelling from Glasgow down to Mancs and Sheffield a lot ,crossing Peak district through Snake Pass etc...got me through 2 terrible winters,2009 and 2010 with no issue.. remember driving out of Hathersage in deep snow passing numerous other cars stuck fast in snow.Great car,absolute beast in bad conditions .Opinions,eh?
The phev battery lasts 8 years, is that right, then what? You take your chances?
@@stephenlaw9827 You just use the engine all the time, this was a very popular company car because of its low BIK but lots of those who choose theses nether bothered plugging them in as they weren't interested.
@@stephenlaw9827nowadays you have 8 years of warranty for the battery from almost all manufacturers. So you can fully expect them to last more than that - they usually degraded slowly a few percent per year. So after 8 years you normally should have at least 75-80% of the battery capacity, which is pretty decent.
I've been waiting for you to review my car! Great review. I've had one for 3 years. Don't buy one if you mainly do long journeys; you'd be better with a diesel, but if your commute is 20 miles or so, or you mainly stay local, you'll be almost 100% electric and only use petrol on long journeys. It's a superbly engineered car and the more you drive it, the more you appreciate it. It just works and is utterly reliable too.
Are they really reliable? Also, what's the life of the battery's? Any potential of having a 3rd party battery added?
@@solefreak2 I've had mine for three years and done around 25K in that time. I've not had to repair anything (other than a tail light, but we can't blame Mitsubishi for that). The battery software is very gentle with the battery so I haven't noticed any real reduction in range. I don't believe you can add another battery.
Basically it makes perfect sense if most you your journeys are local, but you do the odd long run. Essentially, if you don't charge it, the hybrid bit means it will do roughly diesel mpg on cheaper petrol.
@@tomscott9938 That's my concern, surely there is a certain life expectancy of the battery? In terms of reliability, would you put it up there with the likes of Toyota hybrids?
@solefreak2 you can replace the batteries roughly around every 150k miles I heard
Agree totally on the phev sentiment. The new c class can do an alleged 40 miles on full electric. Accepting the pinch of salt, that's more than enough for everyday pootling. The problem is still the initial expense, for those who aren't flush with cash.
Strange that you made no mention of the regeneration paddles which have the very real advantage of reducing speed without having to use the brakes continuously, especially helpful on downhill runs, but also have the added advantage of putting extra charge back into the battery. When used correctly, this can significantly reduce brake wear and, over protracted journeys, help keep the drive batteries topped up.
No real advantage to using the paddles as you get regen when pressing the brake pedal anyway
@@stuarthatch Apart from the reduced brake wear!
@@markdoble736 - It’s exactly the same as unless you stamp on the brakes it uses regen when you press the brake pedal
@@stuarthatch Except when using the regen paddles judiciously, much less use of the brakes are required. In many circumstances, the brakes are often only used to bring the car to a final standstill.
The mpg all depends on the type of journey you do. I specifically bought mine, a 2018, because my commute is a twenty mile round trip, but I still occasionally do a long run. On a good day I can do the commute on pure electric, which means I get the satisfaction of the display giving me symbols when it goes above 999mpg. I moved to this from a L405 Range Rover and am finding it way more reliable in bad weather too, with the right tyres on it. I'd heartily recommend to anyone who commutes regularly within a ten mile radius. If you do long motorway journeys every day, then consider something else. It's a tool for a very specific job. Oh, and since I bought it over a year ago, it hasn't depreciated a penny, unlike having a Range Rover!
Oh, forgot to mention, when you put it into Sport mode it'll leave just about anything standing at the lights, which is always amusing considering how unassuming it looks.
I mean sure the cost savings make it worthwhile for your commute but with a 0-60 of 10 seconds it’s not leaving anything but old crap at the lights. I’d rather pay more for a car that makes me smile.
@@danielbrowne8044 exactly I read it and went like... hang on, didn't Matt say it's about 10 sec, hardly leaving behind anyone who cares to race at least a bit haha... I drive an RX400h and must admit electric motors help to get an immediate response from the accelerator (still does 0-60 in less than 8 sec btw), but it isn't really a traffic lights sprinter, more like a comfy SUV powerful enough to filter in fast traffic like we have on the N340 along the Costa del Sol or overtake whenever you need it.
@@danielbrowne8044 Both yourself and Andek don't understand what ''leave behind at the lights'' mean. You arbitrarily assumed 0-60 but where a traffic light is set the limit is around 40 mph anyway, it also doesn't say it'll stay in front of the other cars intuitively, it'll just leave them behind as you set off. My hybrid 225xe is @6.4 sec 0-60 (lower than what the book will list) yet after 70 mph it tanks compared to other cars so in simple terms, ''at the traffic light'', you only need a 0-30 mph best performance where the electric motor does its best job support the ICE. Also, 0-60 mph for regular cars to the point of 5 sec flat, is a non-linear curve, are we really saying that every 10 mph rise takes 1.66 sec? Are we 18 y/o with no basic knowledge of math, physics or pure common sense?
@@AB-cg9np the original post says MOST cars. Im sorry but any decent spec car is beating an Outlander 0-10/20/30 or whatever milestone you throw at it. I reckon the electric engine gets you 5 yards at max before my old & slow e350d disappears into the horizon. I’m sure your (completely irrelevant to the conversation) car would beat it too because it probably fits under MOST CARS. An outlander even with an EV is a slow car that is my only point.
This guy is easily a contender for a position on Top Gear as a presenter! Thank you for all your hard work and honest information. Top notch. Can't believe you've had 128.5k views with only 6.4k likes. Come on guys give this man the credit he deserves!
Wow, thanks!
I agree. You should be on Top Gear.
Ive had mine on a 2017 plate for just over 18 months now. Still love it. Easy to drive....Long and short runs, the economy is better than expected. It is easy to service at home and sailed through its MOT with no issues. No squeaking on my drivers side seat. Having never stayed in a cheap motel I wouldnt know what the beds sound like.... and BTW, you can turn the beeping off when u press that button. Mine has an electronic parking brake. VERY useful and convenient. Yes ok, the plastic inside the car might have a cheaper feel than much more expensive vehicles but thats just the point. Outlander PHEVs were one of the cheapest ways to get a plug in hybrid SUV, especially one that plugs into the normal household power point. At almost 70k miles, the battery capacity on mine is still as good as the day I brought it.. Programming the heating to pre heat the car on winter mornings is working a treat....as is the phone app..
Great content as usual & Absolutely beautiful countryside in your videos Matt. Keep up the great work !
Thanks, will do!
Had a 2014 Outlander for over 5 years. 176k miles on the clock, and absolutely love it. Fantastic car. It's not a sports car, but it's superbly practical, cheap to run, very reliable, and very reassuring to drive. Great video.
Its totally ok, that this kind of vehicle don't get good gas mileage, when the petrol engine comes on. The whole point is, that most people can cover maybe 80-90% of their driving with the electric motor only. So the gas engine is solely there, so you dont have to also buy another vehicle for those occational long trips Or worry about running out of electricity on your shorter trips. Overall its alright
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An Outlander Commercial is on my shortlist as a replacement van for work. I’d go for a 2.4. They seem reasonably plentiful & not bad value. I’d rather not be paying 34p per kw/h though. Other options include either a Toyota Corolla commercial or (the makes no sense but I like it option) a Land Cruiser commercial.
Hi Matt great video again, had a 16 plate outlander for 6 months now and as you rightly state ideal for short journeys. Charge overnight with Octopus night rate for 80 pence and do approximately 28 miles on a charge in summer and 20 in winter. Don’t put petrol in for approximately 8 weeks when pootling about.
However also went to the Scottish Highlands with no worries as 4 wheel drive and cruises on motorways nicely, that creaky seat is a known issue though.
Comparing some of your early vids….you are now very slick, and informative. You never bore me…thanks
Glad you like them! Pleased I’ve improved too
Also it's a great car for those working from home. Eg take kids to school then come home and plug in. Similarly shop and plug in etc. No petrol all week perhaps
These are good cars, I had a 66 plate for 3 years, never once had a problem, never got anywhere near the stated mpg though. Great video as always.
Mitsubishi Dealers still exist in the UK in that they are now Service Only and are still supported by Mitsubishi for parts and warranty.
I couldn’t agree with you more, plug in hybrids are the way to go and that’s what we should be pushing rather than full EVs. I have a 19 Volvo XC60 T8 R Design (god that’s a mouthful to say) and it’s quite good. Rarely do I need to use fuel around town or in the city, but when I go on long road trips, or need to commute to my companies head quarters, I never bat an eye at the range.
To be fair Matt, Mitsubishi do not calculate their own fuel consumption figures. They are provided by a European Union Agency and are not meant to predict how much fuel you personally will use but rather to allow the buyer to compare one model with another.
PHEVs do ridiculously well on the the Euro system test circuit, as you found way way better than in the real world.
Still, excellent video as always.
Time to do more EV videos though. We all know it even if we don’t want to admit it. Fossil engines are on the way out
I've the Mégane phev. 1.6 litre 160bhp. Perfect for the wife's 40 Kms a day on pure electric & then 70 mpg on a longer weekend journey! You're right Matt, I don't see why we weren't pushed into phevs rather than full electrics. Best of both worlds!
Also in mine you need to reset the trip computer every time to get your accurate full electric mileage, not the 10 that the computer says.
One reason why we weren't "pushed" into PHEV's is because one day, no more oil will be refined into road fuel. Shell plan to cut refining and production of petrol and diesel by 40% before 2030. The details are in their latest report...... Are other oil companies looking to do the same? Who knows? Plus after 2035 (maybe sooner?) there will be no more PHEV's, as sales of new ones will be banned.
I always left the fuel cap dangling until someone pointed out the 2 pieces of metal on the inside of the fuel flap door thing are to hold the cap so it doesn't drip down the car. I think all cars have em.
Also, I had an 08 Outlander, when it worked I loved it, but in reality it was a complete disaster, unknown faults, cut out on me on the fast lane of m62, had to wait for a rolling road closure to get me out of the central reservation at rush hour, cost me a fortune. Ended up being a terrifying car to drive. Lessons learned.
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That seat would send me insane!
Stick with my 7th crv thank you
Back when I was young, free & single I had a Mitsubishi Galant, 4WD4WS. Awesome car, go anywhere near a garage, it was 300 GBP. Was great fun for 4 years.
Starting and driving was like preparing a 747 for take off, so many buttons and things to twiddle.
The figures for fuel consumption did sound a tad outlandish before you tested them. The drive confirmed it. Good show.
Enjoyed your review and you were spot on. I bought a 2014 Outlander in 2016 and it has now done 56k. I live just outside London and use it regularly mainly locally. It is plugged in overnight and I can go a couple of months between petrol refills. So that must be how Mitsubishi calculate their ridiculous mpg figures.. Saying that it is the perfect car if you use it like me, with just the odd journey to Derbyshire or Devon where it will return 45-50mpg if driven sensibly. I like the different brake regeneration settings using the paddles on the steering wheel and mine has adaptive cruise control. I do have an app called PHEV Watchdog which monitors the battery performance and other geeky info via your dashboard OBD socket. The battery after 8.5 years and 56k miles is at just under 70% effective which I am happy with. Be interesting in a few years time what the cost to replace the batteries will be !
A friend of mine has a 2017 Outlander diesel, and he loves it. We have gone on days out to events in the country in it, and I love it. Okay it doesn't have luxury of a Range Rover but it is still a very nice and comfortable car for long journeys. He has a son living in England, and he drives over regularly to see him, and does other things as well. This brings me to the next bit. There have been times when I have been talking to him after he's returned from England, and he has told me he had driven one thousand miles across England in complete comfort, and has not felt any signs of discomfort whatsoever. A friend of mine is changing his car, and drives all over Ireland. He wants an electric car, and with the experience my friend has been having with his, I've been recommending the Outlander and am going to send him this video. With my friend driving his Outlander one thousand miles across England, would you think of doing the same with your XC70 Matt, and doing a video on it?
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I had to get a PHEV a few years ago, since I fitted solar panels and a bunch of Lithium phosphate batteries to my house, and I wanted to charge my house on an EV tarrif. I had my heart set of a PHEV, because none of the EVs really interested me, and I wasn't looking to spend more money than I needed to.
And my impression of the Outlander PHEV was the same as yours. The interior reminded me of something from the 90s. My dad actually had a 1st gen Outlander when I was a kid, and the car reminded me of that. Anyway, I got a C350e estate instead, which was a far better option at the same price used. The C350e is used by my dad, who takes to the shops and the gym a few miles away a few times a week, and it's basically free to run during April-October, thanks to the solar panels. I plug it in to charge when the house has a surplus of energy stored.
I have had a PHEV for 7 years and do mainly short journey commutes or family visits with a long distance trip once a month. The car has always been main dealer services and the battery is always charged in accordance with recommendations.
On long journeys the car returns about 38mpg and unlike conventional petrol or diesels the fuel use is more on the open road than it is in town. The car is now 9 years old and still has around 60% battery capacity compared to the 32 mile range at new. It is worth remembering that the optimal battery range is in spring and autumn, with fuel economy being shocking in the coldest winter months. A 3 mile journey in mid winter shows on the dashboard as averaging 15mpg and basically the engine is running to defrost the car generate heat to bring the car up to temperature without damaging the battery cells.
I have also found I drive the car completely differently to a conventional car, using the flappy paddles on the column to generate breaking force and charge the battery (KURS in an F1 car). This helps extend range dramatically if used intelligently as part of your driving habits.
I have found the car ticks all the sensible boxes for reliability, practicality and comfort, but it does not excite or get the heart racing, for that I bought a Z4 but that has spent 50 of its life in the garage. Says it all really.
Great Video, I just picked up a 2018 .2.4 4hs. My use case is almost as you describe at 2:30. I don't have kids at home, but I do short trips most of the time with the occasional longer journeys, I have Scottish trip planned soon. I did a fair bit of research prior. the "safety" (s) versions do have adaptive radar cruise, proximity and lane departure notifications. apparently squeaky seat is a common but fixable issue.
Only Matt would be able to make an interesting and funny video on an Outlander. Kudos, Sir!
Had the 2.4 for 3 years and loved it. My daily commute was around 15 miles so easily done on battery (regularly got 30m EV range - I'd suggest the one featured needs a BMU reset) and got free charging at work.
I'd have probably gone for the new model if Mitsi had not pulled out of Europe.
Not sure if it's true for this car but another advantage of plug in hybrid 4 wheel drive cars is the absence of a tunnel down the centre of the car for the prop shift. With 4 small engines you could actually get a combination of each wheel engaging on corners ice or snow - you don't really get that with conventional 4x4. And instant power without a clunky slush oxygen or manual
Here on NZ these seem to be family/lifestyle vehicles. School run/commute during the week and in the weekend loaded up with MTV's, kayaks,or windsurfers.
It’s great you can hint about your own opinion of the car, but at the same time explain the market for it. No BS straight talking. That’s what it’s all about!
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I have the 5hs new model and love it. Great drive and looks great
I always thought of these as a "grandad" car. The styling always seemed just a bit "let's take Gran to the shops" out of date. The problem would be Matt, relying totally on hybrids and PHEV's, is that petrol and diesel has no long term future. Shell's latest business report outlines their plan to cut the production and refining of petrol and diesel by 40% on the run up to 2030. This may or may not change before we reach 2030, but it does underline the fact that one day there will be no more petrol being refined from crude oil... The MPG figures they quote, will be achieved on a rolling road, with no hills, no wind, no other traffic, no roadworks, and an absolutely perfect driving style Matt. So not a genuine representation of real world motoring, as you discovered when you topped the tank up...... Excellent video as usual though.....
Mate of mine has a 2016 diesel one. 4wd, he absolutely loves it.
An aunt owned one of these. In 6 months of tootling to the shops, family visits and the Bridge Club she still hadn't refilled the petrol tank.
Well Matt what can I say.. Maybe for that one journey, that was your mpg going down the motorway. I have a 2019 Outlander PHEV (bigger batteries and bigger 2.4 engine and upgraded suspension) and I think you gave it a bit of a bad rap here mate, all be it the 2.0 on a 16 plate. Anyhoo I digress... Lets say my commute to work and back is 14 miles a day, I fully charge the car at night on cheap electricity depress the EV button when I start the car and drive the car on elastic trickery only, I get 28 miles of pure EV driving per charge. So I ask you Matt if I repeat this for my 5 day working week and mount up 70 miles without using a drop of petroleum liquid what is my MPG? I have seen me get 999mpg, 0000mp, 333mpg right down to 40mpg with the sport button depressed running on the 2,4ltr petrol engine and the 2 batteries 224bhp which makes it quite brisk. love mine id advise to go for the later 2,4 over the 2.0
I agree, In the uk 95% of journeys are under 10 miles. PHEV makes total sense and no issues long distance when you do need to use fuel.
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Why do people always come out with that old cliche. It males no sense at all if you have to find tens of thousands of pounds to but the car. It's far cheaper to buy a good 5k car with average or poor mpg. Your monthly payments on fuel will be WAY lower than the loan repayment on an expensive hybrid.
@@johntate5050 good thing we live in a free country where people are allowed to make up their own mind
@@johntate5050 I get your point and that’s also short sighted, I buy cars that generally bottom out in depreciation for cash/ very low interest finance. So running costs make a huge difference to me/us. Yes the upfront cost is more but overall and long term it works out better as I generally sell for near what buy for, so the difference is running costs.
@@samwilde595 no way you will get 15k for this after 3 year more likely 6k if you lucky....
We had a 2016 outlander from new. A year ago we noticed corrosion on the subframe. Went underneath with a screwdriver to see if it was just surface rust and put multiple holes through the subframe. 40K miles and no we don’t live by the cost
Thanks Matt for another great genuine review. As always your car reviews are the best in RUclips.
So to do 55 miles, it cost Matt, £8 in petrol and around £4.41 in Electricity (32p per kw/h with a 13.8kwh battery). I'll stick with a diesel that would cost £7.41 to do that journey, ta.
I was looking for one of these PHEVs, but finding one that hadn`t had a hard life was difficult. When I had a test drive at a main dealers, I wasn`t over impressed. I bought a Lexus NX and love it. Much nicer car.
Just got back from a family holiday with a 5HS PHEV loaded up to the roof. Great car! The seat on mine creaks like that too. If you find a fix, let me know!
Well, it seems to be a bit popular as family car or company car.
My wife has the petrol version of this. She used to have a Citroen c4 grand Picasso another one of your favourite cars!
Oh dear
We’ve had our PHEV for 3 years now. Not one single issue! Cheap to run and insure! How’s your LR ownership going? 🤪👍
New subscriber here! My wife and I are shopping the 2018 so this video is perfect. Had to comment already even though I haven’t finished the video. Keep up the great work and thank you so much for reviewing used cars that’s all most of us can really afford anyway.
Thank you for watching.
I’ve always liked these, you certainly get a lot of car for your money.
The fuel economy figure they give is only achievable if you're using it as a plugin, not purely a hybrid.
Excellent thanks. I had a Vauxhall Ampera, loved it as the petrol engine charged the battery so no range anxiety. From what you’ve told me here it’s the same thing. Brilliant. I am an electrician so loads of information on boot size was great (2 kids puts paid to the commercial version). Think this is for me. Thanks.
Speaking of the Subaru Foreste ..... the snow we recently had the other week ..... was driving through a local village near me which has a steep dip and then a hill up the other side ......in in dip stuck was a £50,000 Audi all wheel drive ...... had a slight smile to myself as I went through and up the othef side in my £6,000 2009 Forester
Love this channel . I like it that I'm looking for a used car without having to pay top wack . Your channel gives me ideas. Thanks m8 !
No don’t even think about it. I had one for 3 years. I drive an average of 30k miles a year and averaged 27.8 miles to the gallon. Petrol tank is the size of a watering can. Only good for the school run.
This is a fair review. . I have owned a 2016 Phev since it was a few months old. Expect 20-25 electric miles in summer and 15-20 in winter. On a run it will do high thirties to low forties at 65-70mph after the battery is exhausted. Around town it will do mid 50's after battery is exhausted. The claimed mpg is correct for the government test cycle with a charged battery as the city test was a series of accelerate/stop cycles so the battery keeps recharging. and the 56/70 tests still had battery to help with the short test range!
I just bought one and drove back on a 1h30m commute home (mixture of A roads and motorway), averaged over 50mpg so not too bad and pretty much in line with all my diesel cars.
It's odd that Mitsubishi no longer sell new cars in the UK, although their website still lists service/used car centres.
Good video as always, Matt, and I’m another PHEV fan. I ran a BMW 225xe for 3 years and 35,000 miles and it was excellent, despite the bland Hyundai-ish looks. It was practical, relaxing to drive, but amusingly rapid when flicked into 'Sport' mode. This harnessed both petrol and electric motors to give the full 225bhp and 285ft-lb, giving the car (literally) electric throttle response and excellent overtaking punch for making progress on A-roads.
The car isn't hobbled with a CVT, the gearbox is a proper 6-speed torque converter auto which is very well calibrated. So you can either relax and let it do all the work or, if on A- or B-roads, use the manual override for maximum go. The petrol and electric motors combine seamlessly, so there's no compromise or jerkiness in terms of driving behaviour.
The 'combined' economy (i.e. petrol plus electricity costs, I only charged it at home) worked out at bang on 50 mpg average in my 3 years of ownership, but that doesn’t tell the full story: as my commute was an 8-mile round trip, I could drive for weeks at a time on battery power only. There’s an ‘eco pro’ driving mode which stops the petrol engine kicking in until you reach 78mph so you can tackle faster roads on electricity alone without driving like a granny. On a long motorway run where you’re using mostly petrol power at 70+ mph, I used to get around 45mpg.
It took 3 hours to charge from a domestic 13A socket and that gave me 18 miles battery-only range in summer, and about 14 miles in winter (post 2019 models have a bigger battery). And during winter, the 'preconditioning' capability from the electric heater on frosty mornings was very welcome: I got into a warm cabin with frost-free windows.
I think the biggest concern with PHEVs is what happens when they’re out of the main dealer warranty: all the electrics means they’d be a fault-finding nightmare.
Great video. The 2 litre engine with CVT is a bad combination. I drove the 3 litre before and it was fun.
I'd like to try the 3.0 MIVEC V6 you mention. I wish I had that petrol engine mated to the PHEV powertrain. The 2.0i 4-cylinder let's the side down. I drove the Outlander diesel the other day with a manual transmission which was interesting. Mitsubishi told me the 2.0 PHEV is not CVT but a single gear.
@@zumabilla sorry for my ignorance but isn't a CVT a single gear transmission? I don't want to buy a CVT again, I don't see the point of it other than it saves money for the manufacturer's but it will cost me big time when it breaks and the fuel saving is minimal, which is then lost if you want to drive it with a 2.4 or 3 ltr engine to get a better driving performance. It's not fun trying to overtake or get up to motorway speed with the 2ltr CVT on a bigger car.
I never understood why people say it's the worst of both worlds I agree with you Matt - it's the best
i think what makes the most sense on these PHEVs is that the engine is not worn from short distance stop-and-go traffic,
but is allowed to efficiently work at long distance highway speed.
I know someone who has a plug in hybrid car, and she gets about 200 miles per gallon in her real world use. How on earth? Pretty simple. She runs her kids to school, then goes to work. Total journey is about ten miles, all low speed. She pops the car on to charge at work (they encourage EV use so permit a charge) and then she collects the kids and goes home. She goes to the supermarket a couple of times a week, which is under ten miles round trip. Almost all her journeys are local, 30-40mph speed limits and are done in pure electric mode. She only occasionally does a longer journey, when she uses the petrol engine, so goes months between fueling up with petrol. Of course, the 'mpg' is just the petrol cost, and doesn't include the electricity to charge the car overnight.
Great video as usual. Anything over 45 mpg I would say is great given it's size, weight and aerodynamic properties (that of a breeze block) so getting almost 50mpg as you did is excellent.
As always a superb video Matt. I am happy you reviewed this as it is on my list as a sensible alternative to my fuel guzzling 4.2 supercharged Range Rover should I ever need a car for long daily drives.
Your channel and videos are top notch Matt. Informative yet at times funny. Your work ethic is admirable; work hard to succeed but don’t shit on anyone on the journey to achieve success.
Thanks!
Had to dive out of the path of one of these a few years ago in a supermarket car park. The old chap driving it couldn't see over the dashboard that I was already part way across the area leading to the shop door entry. As he drove away, oblivious, I couldn't see the back of his head above his car seat. My thoughts at the time were, 'Aygo, Yaris, Jazz, you old git, otherwise use a couple of cushions;.
Time gives perspective and this beastie has the mojo of the first shoguns back in the 90s, it’s taken a long time to get that magic back, quality, efficient or otherwise they’ve eventually hit a similar vein, how long did that take?
My friend has a Outlander from this generation. It's a weird car for a young teenager to drive but his dad got a good deal with it when the dad got a Ram 1500.
Funnily enough the dad actually loves driving the Outlander. He literally had a manual Dodge Charger and all sorts of stuff. I'm pretty sure he likes the smooth CVT. I think. I just know he thinks it's a very comfy smooth ride.
I rented this car 2 weeks ago and took it to the Peak District when there was a snow calamity. And I have to say I was really surprised with its 4x4 capabilities. In snow It's going like a tank. I had 2.4L and to 40mph feels really quick. Except the 1990s interior, it's a great car, very spacious and mostly quiet. Almost like a cruise ship :D Just on motorways in winter in higher speeds 27mpg doesn't look good. Great review! Always happy to watch
Thanks, I had an Outlander PHEV for 6 years, it was OK, did the job efficiently, never had any faults in the whole 6 years, but it was a bit boring to look at and drive.
I now think the PHEV is not the best idea, it will suit a very particular mileage profile, but for high mileage, get a diesel. It did however convince me that a full EV was the way to go, and now 3 years into my EV, there is no way I would go back to ICE.
Next door has a Toyota Rav-4 hybrid which has no charging socket at all.
It relies totally on engine re-charging.
It's a big old bus as well, a long way on from the original RAV-4 which was tiny.
I agree that a PHEV is the best of both worlds. We have a Ford Fusion (Mondeo to you) PHEV. Given our usage - mostly local trips - we are currently averaging about 200 mpg. We drove about 5,000 miles on the first tank of gas (petrol to you).
It really needs a replacement traction battery to fix the range. If it was replaced then expect 100mpg plus for 70 miles ish. Some of these are £0 road tax which is helpful. FYI The accessory battery is in the boot, the traction batter is under the body. Tks
never stop these vids! them quirks you make in different segments. absolute killer 😂😂😂😂
IMO self charging hybrids will always be a better option in general, unless you mostly do short city runs and have an easy to use charging facility for an EV or PHEV. I say traditional hybrids make most sense in mixed driving environment, either the more economic ones like Prius or Auris/Corolla or more practical SUVs like Rav4, NX or RX. If you forget to charge your PHEV, your gas mileage will be that of a big petrol SUV, In traditional hybrids you don't have that problem. If you do mostly motorway runs, nothing will beat an economic diesel with about 4/5 litres per 100kms, although my friend with the hybrid Auris claims he also does 4,5 litres petrol on motorways driving up to speed limits...
The Outlander PHEV is also self charging if you press the 'Charge' button on centre console. The engine recharges the lithium drive battery while stationary or driving along.
@@zumabilla how does it change the consumption though?
Theyre actually not that bad, a 6/10, great review as usual Matt! :D
That chairs sounds more like it belongs to a brothel !!!! great video mate!
Disagree with you about the Mitsubishi Outlander reliability. They have an excellent reputation in New Zealand. Very popular. The diesel engines in the Pug 4007 could give problems but the petrol Outlanders were excellent. We had a 2006 2.4 petrol Outlander for many years up until sold at 230,000 km. It gave us an excellent run. Some of the Mitsi's had CVT auto problems but ours was fine.
because theyre all diesel in europe, and use that same Peugeot engine. older ones were even worse used a VW pre common rail one
European spec cars were Dutch built. NZ were Japan sourced.
Re your rant about the previous gen (Gen2) Outlander! - Think of the reasons they caused you trouble - you say it enough, maintenance! They were almost all diesel bought by people not interested in cars who then just didn't look after or service them! My 2009 Outlander is one of the 1% sold in the UK with a petrol engine. A special order when new, first owner was a car bloke who only bought petrol cars and looked after them. Almost 14 years old now and has only ever needed routine maintenance, everything works, no issues. It is used regularly for towing a 1.5 ton trailer, rest of the time it's mainly used as a van. The fold down tailgate, low floor and high roof means it does that well. The CVT box and slightly gutless 2.4 petrol means it's not the most fun to drive but for the class of car it's better than most and economy gets in to the 30s - again OK for the age and class of car. I'm keeping it long term because it's combination of comfort, space and practicality is unbeatable. The PHEV you test here is smaller on the inside, bigger on the outside and in the real world, on long journeys, not much more economical. You are right the PHEV would be good in cities, but we have a Fiat 500 for that. I've seriously considered importing the 6 cylinder version of the Gen 2 Outlander from Australia. Than has more power and a conventional auto which would make what I have now perfect!
Great review, I loved mine had it for 7 years. Now got the new Mercedes GLC300de but I still miss some points about the Mitsubishi, yea my seat did that as well lol. (I would of bought a new one but as you say not sold here anymore)
Your Mercedes-Benz GLC is a great choice. However if you did want the new 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV you'd have to buy the identical 2023 Nissan X-Trail hybrid in UK (same car, same factory, different badge). I discovered this while I was looking into importing a new 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV from Australia.
Matt I have a C Crosser love it! cost me £3500 lately to have timing belt etc and new automatic gearbox , this was much cheaper than buying a new car that was younger but with higher mileage , each to their own! Love your reviews as always , beeping better than the sound of the seat😂😂😂
Mitsubishi are no more in the UK which would rule it out for me.
I think you’re right that PHEVs make a lot of sense, especially if like us, we’re a one car household -I wouldn’t dream of going electric only. You have to think carefully before buying a PHEV. I do lots of short commutes on electric, but we also drive 500 miles to the north of Scotland and pure electric just wouldn’t work.
For the record, I drive a Volvo XC40 PHEV. It does 24 miles on electric (id like more) and overall MPG from new is 72.
Mitsubishi is planning a comeback on UK market but there are still plenty of dealers left to cater for existing owners. I drive one just like the one in the video and it’s great for me and my family.
When I think of HEV cars all that comes to mind is Toyota, Lexus and Honda. I wouldn’t be shopping around for any other model
I disagree with many of the comments regarding hybrids. We run a 2012 Prius plug in hybrid. Lifetime average of 3L/100km. That’s with a 60/40 split of 60% hybrid mode 40% EV mode. Lots of town and highway driving. On long distances it gets 4.7L/100km, over a road trip of over 500kms we got 4.8L/100km.
Of course the Prius is a smaller car but so far we are thoroughly satisfied
As my mom owns a 2021 Bmw 225xe I’d say the only issue is in winter when the range drops no matter how much you charge it but still phev are great cars in my opinion
I always liked the Pathfinder back in the day.
Good filming - good many angles etc. Would you do a video on how you actually do the video equipment setup? Well done and thanks in advance!