I like farming super powerful items, though, I prefer uniques to change attack styles like Rouge’s scoundrel kiss aspect, rather than simply adding +100% damage to something
As a casual and less skilled player, I probably won't touch this feature/mode. There's already the over-cooked Helltide, NM dungeons, the Pit, The Gauntlet, and [uber] bosses in the game that is more than enough difficulty for my skill level. Seems all they care about is content for the top 1%. Personally, I'd like to see them do something with the open world and consolidate some of the currencies, which I think are already getting out of hand.
I'm actually pretty disappointed with the team that handles the PTR. One of my biggest complaints is that it seems like that team is very lazy and what they do to orchestrate a good environment for us the players to test. They don't have to reinvent the wheel but they can look to other game platforms and previous series in the Diablo franchise to see what had worked for their PTR. This includes things like an item cache that will drop a copious amount of gold materials crafting goods, a ton of resplendent Sparks so we could just craft items, along with class specific or generic unique. This would give us the opportunity to dive in and start testing some of these builds at the end game level. Instead what we end up with is a scenario where we have to farm the PTR which feels really bad. It also doesn't give us a real accurate representation of how people can handle the new seasonal mechanic with the rebalanced game design with the new edition of the unique items they have added this season. I think they really need some all hands on deck testing to ensure that we end up with something that's reasonable for all the classes. I've said it once I've said it a barbillion times... The Barbarian can't be the only op class in the game with multiple builds. Either they Nerf the Barb down to where everyone else is or they bring everyone else up to where the Barbarian is.... I think the smart play is to bring everyone else up to that level. Otherwise just rename the entire game franchise Barbarian
"Bring barb down to us or bring us to barb" exactly that. Blighted aspect nerf and wither nerf is a great example. No class can equip nearly as many offensive aspects as barb and rogue. It should make sense that the little offensive aspects we have and can equip are huge multipliers rather being somewhat in line with their numbers.
i mean.. if you can't beat em, join them. If u are still playing diablo 4 and u are not playing barbarian you are clearly playing the game wrong... And there's no way u can use the fun excuse here either, cus WW barb is by far the most fun build in the game. so honestly people who don't play barb right now, are kinda stupid...
@@frustrated0goat it doesn't offer variety, it offers the illusion of it. You think that there are 5 classes, but there are only 2. Barb and the Rest.. and 1 of those 2 options is clearly the correct option, while the other is 100% wrong. IF the game TRULY offered variety, then it would be different. The game obviously wants you to play barb and only barb and it literally sprays that fact in your face 24/7 and you still think that there is variety... it's just an illusion of it and not even a good one.. lol
@@akhsdenlew1861 I don't disagree with you're saying. My comment was sarcasm actually. I have a barb and all the others as well. I only play barb as needed. Other than that, I mostly play sorc and rogue. It is an illusion but unfortunately it's still there as well. I don't play a game to be like everyone else. I just stick to what my character allows me to
@@michaeljohnston73 Yes, but in the end game with full gear, the Barbarian stacks a lot of power and damage reduction. In my point of view, they need to rethink the paragon board of all the classes to add more damage reduction to them. A better solution would be to change the armor nodes to damage reduction. This will give players more control of their character, whether they want to be a glass cannon or a tank. Another thing that annoys me the most is that if you are not playing on a full-wall monitor, it is hard to see where you need to position yourself to dodge all the mechanics, and sometimes you don't even know what hits you. I'm still enjoying the game, don't get me wrong, but sometimes it is frustrating to die from a missile that you don't see.
As a casual player I actually got two characters to 100 and enjoyed season 4. I felt powerful. Not sure about season 5 but will give it a go but if it's not good then will look at another title to play. I think that's the rub, people will play if they feel good or feel they are powerful but leave if it is the opposite.
Hopefully Blizzard is watching the streamer reactions because so far I haven't seen ANY of them actually enjoying or looking forward to season 5. I thought they learned from their nerfs in season 1 and everyone left the game, but apparently not.
In terms of the loot we get at the end of the hordes, it baffles me that they, for some reason, REALLY hate deterministic things and REALLY LOVE adding layers upon layers upon layer of RNG onto your every move. I don’t want it to rain legendaries like in D3 or Borderlands. I don’t want to receive 40 items and insta salvage 39 of them. It’s fine if the T8 compass gives 3 items… if they are 3 items of QUALITY. Why that seems to be such a hard concept to grasp (other than the obvious forced played retention) I’ll never understand.
I'm happy with S4. I finally have the freedom to make any build I want the way I want. Now with the S5 PTR I felt the opposite, like the game is forcing me to play the way THEY want. I'm getting tired of this one step forward, two steps back dynamic Blizzard is doing with D4.
They need to start implementing passive tree for those mechanics, maybe even for hell tides and such to pop out more stuff and to configure our looting experience. These roguelike game mode without any spec tree gets boring after 5 runs. It feels like a lazy development.
Played every season so far, over 100 days on d4. For me s5 is a pass as it stands right now, people may argue s4 had no mechanics but the rework of the system alone made it really interesting and a new learning curve. This new mechanic for end game just isn't it, they need to massively overhaul it to be a true "end game" experience.
They get creative and do what they want rather than what we want, walking it back later They make it more like D3 and people flood back They get creative and do what they want rather than what we want, walking it back later This is the cycle. They need people who actually play games developing these games. These DEI hires don't play games.
my biggest ask for uniques is the game needs less shacos and tyraels and grandfathers and more black rivers. Uniques should make new builds possible or change existing builds in a fun way. The best example of this always brings me back to PoE. There is a bow in that game that makes all your lightning damage poison. Which then changes the build in every way damage wise. I hope one day we get to that point in D4. More fractured winterglasses less crown of lucions.
@@scottwade1054 yeah I’m not saying they don’t exist I just want them to stay the course in the future and not make more boring stat sticks. Uniques should do interesting things with a purpose not be played in every single build. You don’t need to make uniques that get used by everyone you need class uniques that change the simple skill tree in exciting ways and then make them strong enough to use. Like that Hakon amulet is a really cool idea for rogues but it’s just not strong enough and the supporting key passive was weak but now that it’s being buffed maybe that build can be viable to at least do 100s pits.
Also a lot of these issues with uniques get fixed by putting loadouts in the game. If you can have multiple setups then a lot of these weaker builds can be used for speed farming and things like that. It’s just not possible while you need to be doing 100s to masterwork your gear and level new characters to make swapping between setups possible.
I'm pretty sure massive nerfs and not buffing the weak skills with massive multiplicative damge, is the biggest fumble. not the pit. Druid is weak and cappped now. Sorceress is nerfed and still a meme. Each class has a large skill tree that only lets you play 1-2 skills from it each season. Just buff the whole skill tree with X damage, finally. Also, the "new endgame" content is a complete failure.
I think we really don't know how things will be it's a month away and a lot of negative feedback so far. If worse case scenario it will be a short season lol
Tormented stacks and dmg resistance aura mobs needs to go away, the tormented stacks means you cant play a fun build but you MUST be tanky af and some builds are annoying to deal with those dmg resistance aura mobs on :D I cannot imagine a world where those 2 things are must haves in a video game
what does it matter te event itself is 2 floor, not bigger than a cursed shrine, same mobs we seen for a year, is this the ammount of content they are going to push for a full season, what is the accual reason to even pay next season if this is it. 900 devs and they came up with this. its? someting is broken in that company. Live service lol
Can‘t we just have Infernal Hordes? Would be fun to just have a portal somewhere where you can set your level and get in, for free. Why does every additional game in this game cost currency?
I like build defining uniques, if they are done right. Good examples of that are Fractured Winterglass, Gloves of the Illuminator or even the new Axial pants (even though they suck, but the idea was there). Those uniques change the way the skill feels completely and that is great. What I am not a fan of are the numbers-games like the new "300% damage" Sword for basic attacks. Your skills look still completely the same, you just ramp up the numbers. They could have made it: "You spawn 3 shadow clones of yourself that repeat your attacks on enemies around you" - That would still do the same damage but change your Interaction with the skills and the game. Just take a look at D3 and how for example the Gears of Dreadland Set change the way you play DH compared to before the set or the Innas Set change Monk. Edit: The Season mechanic if pretty meh.. I only did around 15 of them and I already am bored. They would need to revamp the whole thing: 1. Do away the keys and let it be mats like for PIT. I don't want them to clatter my inventory again after it just got better. 2. Let us choose the difficulty instead of farming boring T3 ones to just do a bit better higher one. 3. Amp up the monster spawn rate having to wait between spaws ins painful if the amount you kill reflects the rewards 4. Make the Boons/Banes waaaay more interesting. 5. Make the Rewards worth it. - the Material chest should spawn a good amount of Pit mats, the current legendary chest should only spawn uniques and the GA one should also cost 25. And ramp up the Gold chest to at least 5 times.
Looks like you didn't try inferno T6 or T8. Just break down some of them at the occultist guy. You will get a scroll to increase the difficulty and amount of waves. T7 is spicy. T8 you really need meta.
I hate that now the bosses will have that one shot debuff. Why don't they just up our level cap so we be able to get more paragon point to fill out our boards more and more powerful and different glyphs.
Takes to long you get very little reward. The 250 chest is impossible in its current state. Why is it always a boos fight after it is done. The Fell Council should spawn in the waves. Everything is boss fights it is annoying. Why cant we have amode like the Infernal Hordes that goes on infinitely getting progressively harder with the bosses mixed in.
I don't get what the hell they are doing in the D4 dev team... I mean, they already have a great wave mechanic level in D3 now with lots of hordes coming in. Why not take inspiration from there? It feels like they are not even playing their own game, way to disconnected from what is happening and how people are enjoying it...
My understanding of the campfire chat is that the infernal hordes are not the season power, they are something they will just add for the endgame, they have not told us what the power is
Why do people compare everything to Barb lol. Maybe they added the extra boss damage to just make the top end more difficult. Literally necro bone skeleton one shots lol. Also if the VERY END GAME boss is super hard that’s not a bad thing. It should be hard because….. it’s the END GAME. It’s also PTR so for the people saying “Season 5 sucks” and “I’m skipping Season 5”, just know it isn’t finished yet. 🤷🏾♂️ they will make it better as people play the PTR. Have patience or stop watching Diablo on RUclips since yall dislike the game so much and play something else.
How you can balance gameplay if classes make bilion and bilions of DMG...you can't ... Most classes Play just one skill... barbarian suppose to SWAP weapons and the best builds spamming Basic skills ?🤣How you can enjoy spamming one skill
This PTR was a waste of time as they didn't give us tools to test anything. No Uniques, No Unlimited Materials, No Unlimited Gold, No unlocked Aspects and Recipies. LMAO. The balance between the classes doesn't exist and even doesn't exist within the class between different skills. Core skills are dead as they introduced even more OP items for basic-based builds and they buffed basic skills via Uniques and Aspects to the Moon already. BTW: would be nice if you could make a reaction video from Perra Gaming named "I Played Diablo 4 Season 5 And It's.." :)
6:06 "Just make it more rewarding." BINGO! That is the problem with Diablo right now. It is just a grind and nothing more. It is just killing stuff as fast as possible so that you can get to the 10,000th kill that has something that is actually useful, and then doing this 3 more times as the first 2 times you bricked the looted item. The nested RNG is killing the fun for me. I'm installing other ARPGs to start playing and try out because of the tempering alone. The reward(loot) on investment(time) is at an all-time low and it is so obvious that Blizzard just wants D4 to be a loot slot machine. When you can't come up with content (new zone-wide stories with quests and unique rewards), you just stretch out the content you already have by making everything take longer. That and add unncessary complexity to it all.
It really seems the d4 team have given up being original, everything coming to d4 is just old d2 or d3 content with some sparkles thown on it and sadly people have paid them 140nzd for the expansion, this is bascially a preview of the effort in the expansion. They seem to put more time and effort in to which costs us money aka cosmetics and expansions than improving the base game. Just making my decision to swap over to POE2 much easier.
This is the feedback I've sent to them: "Hi, my feedback and opinion on the Season 5 PTR is that I'm... perplexed. I tried both the builds used in Eternal and in previous seasons, and using the new aspects, with Legendaries, Uniques and Ubers, the feeling is always the same: My character seems to "not function well", it's not so much a failure to express potential, but rather the feeling of having "the handbrake on". Worse still, with the bosses and especially the Pit Bosses the feeling seems of absolute randomness... The fight is reduced to going around the boss, attacking and trying to survive, it makes sense to really understand if and why one suffers and inflicts more or less damage. I don't know if this depends on some mechanics introduced that I haven't yet managed to understand or if it's a bug in the interactions of the elements of the build, but the perceived effect is absolutely random... I trust that when season 5 comes out the gameplay is made clearer and more understandable. Thanks and have a nice day."
All colbert creators talk about build requiring mythic unique as if everybody just has an harlequin crest in terror stash. It's my biggest peeve in RUclips at the moment
i 100% agree with what you say. to be perfectly honest, i want to see stuff like season of the malignance where there were ability altering effects not just 20 lines of code that changes the back ground numbers. i think blizzard should start testing there game with numbers damage numbers off and see if there is an "obvious difference" in the play. To extend on this point they reworked the way affixes are done on items and gave us manuals. what if they scripted in a blacksmith quest to go hunt down blacksmith manuals in the depths of Kyovashad ruins in which the city was built upon to protect, or a quest from the followers of Inarius for the "scroll of longevity" that give max life, total armor or health regen. My point is that there are consistent BIG opportunities that are missed and i am very disappointed with a company that has there resources to do so. the community is willing to wait, just give us a good reason to.
Rework abyssal scrolls to do what you're talking about... +1 tier and give you 1-8 random affixes (like the boons but with additional loot, etc) to start with maybe 50 aether or whatever.. sounds like a bad dungeon crawling mobile game where you always start from 0 every single time..
D4 will never be consistently good. The loot changes were pretty good, but they completely broke the balance of the early game. Why have capstone dungeons and different world tiers? Early game is completely trivialized by the power creep. It has already got out of control and balancing it will never happen. D4 bad. On the bright side only 8 days until Last Epoch 1.1 ❤🎉
I'm with you P4wnyhof. I always play a sorc (at least) and in S4 I have 4 characters at 100. I did every class but druid. The S4 PTR was so fun there were those that asked Blizzard to extend it a week. Not this time. This PTR is like a bad version of S4.
I really don't think the have a plan on what they want the game to look like.. They bring in builds that are fun (frozon orb) then release a amulet that is 10 times better than fractured winter glass, making the orb build dead.. There is zero choice, you have to play the meta or the build is crap.. I'm more worried about the expansion and how its going to function with all this.. Pretty shocking so far form blizzard after 1 year of the game
Uber Lilith made me give up Diablo 4. I spent so long getting a build just right, was able to one shot her then immediately die because the game turned from a ARPG to a bullethell where everything one shots me while I have maxed def stats and all the health I could possibly stack. Them doubling down on this isn't making me feel like coming back next season.
i wont be doing it for just 3 random drops, why do that when you can go do Boss and pit grind, the maps fixed, if i want a hard dungeon, the PIT Push is harder, the drop from internals needs to drop guaranteed GA items and unique at the top level, there has to be a reason to not boss grind to go there instead, pits are fun, pushing or grinding for gearing 12/12 etc on different spec gearing. Another currency, another thing not to run. I'll stick to S4 currencies until they fix it but lets see feedback from players hitting devs.
I am not concerned. Have 2 level 100 chars in Season 4 and can not nearly do Lilith or an Uber Boss. If this mechanic comes, I simply stop playing diablo 4. more time for other stuff. It's only a stupid game.
I've said it before, I'll say it again... Just let every single possible build/skill capable of being cheese.. Diablo is no longer the game it once was. Diablo stopped being diablo since D2LoD v1.09 so F it, just let every build be corny and just be rid of it.. Tired of playing games where there is a niche meta based on gear.. Forcing you to get xyz in order to even play a build- I hate it.
Shorten the time it takes to complete a horde, make hordes more intense with much better boons, once you complete the waves and go into the boss room, have the boss randomly choose between 1 of 5 different bosses, example could be King Leoric, Pindleskin from d2, Diablo etc... and have each boss have different drops, one boss could drop legendary gems, another could drop set pieces etc... Then introduce an orb that allows you to influence your compass to get a better chance to fight a specific boss at the end of a horde, because your focused on getting an item that , that specific boss in a horde drops. Thats my solution to hordes, what do you guys think?
the main problem why they re just running back and forth is, that diablo 4 is just a bad game. there is literally NO FUN in fighting in the game bad graphics no effects just a very very bad casual game
Tell them to give us the ability to temper *UNIQUE* affixes onto gear. Let us make uniques with the affixes we want on them. Make this expensive to do and use mats that are hard to get. (Maybe these mats come from the new content) annnnd there is the solution to uniques not being used enough without overpowering them plus a reason to do the new content. This would take minimal additional coding.
infernal hordes doesn't sound cool for 1 second. It's a freakin arena something done in dozens of games if not hundreds. Nothing more boring then clearing wave after wave in a confine area. It's usually used as a filler for games lacking content to keep you busy. I'm not playing that BS.
Personally I'm planning to skip S5 and come back to check out the expansion release. The odd # season dev team dishes out unenjoyable garbage, so I'll just play something else.
Major criticisms for D4 for me, is and has always been stash space. It's still horribly small for a hack n slash loot game. Season 5 is going to teach this Dev team a lesson in time vs rewards. Hopefully....
Sounds like they have some boring ass, no personality having Devs at Blizzard. they need to hire some folks with imagination, there are tons of games out there with really great ideas they could incorporate.. but they are busy being boring.
d4 franchise clearly is losing the direction now, they basically just copy what d3 was doing, adding two digits of the big dmg from preseason, and call it new season. one way they are doing is boost item stats, which is the main reason of huge gap between classes. another way is keeping on feeding us so call new uniques that are so op make the old ones look like a joke. I missed S0 which they really know how to make a good game, there was hard content, and easy speed farming for casual.
Tormented stack in the pit are really bad and they have to go, and the infernal hordes needs tuning and feel more rewarding i do like it, i wish it has different themes and scenarios, rewarding unique, are they not suppose to be build defining? your build can work without it, but when you find that unique isn't that the final piece of the puzzle to be stronger?, like rogue combo points is hard to miss on the condemnation dagger
I spent all of maybe 45 minutes in the PTR and did one round of the new mechanic and quickly decided season 5 was gonna be frustrating. Odd season team is such a disappointment.
It is so discouraging to see this game constantly being tuned to challenge the streamers who are wearing full sets of ubers. I am not that good a player but I had been having fun. S5 looks like a complete no-go for me. This new format dungeon is nope..
Its again like the odd season scheme(they suck),by look of ptr all mechanics sucks they lack rewards that motivate players to play..its better to farm bosses than to do infernal horde.
Only NMD is needed for torment bosses, masterworking, glyph and item farming. Merge these contents and make a finest kind of dungeon that worths our gamer time.
I would like to see a unique for druids that change earrh skills into ice. It would be awesome to have Pulverize a cold skill that applies chill with chance to freeze.
Depends on how much they will nerf evetyghing if I even going to try season 5. The season mechanic looks very boring so that alone wont bring me to play more D4.
I stop playing this garbage, sadly the game has potential but this developers just suck, i guess the best i can do its wait for POE2 and see if its as good as people think it is.
lol they had one job... again raise the other classes to match the one right? nope we are being funneled into one build per class if ya play anything else.. its a sweaty try hard ugh ya know 1.0 got released on 7 days to die lol
I dont ge why they added the echo mechanics in the pit, it is killing me mentally, if my gear gets to 50% it cost me 400k to repair, like wtf man its stupid
So harder bosses which are the ugly part of the pit for me. I tend to play lower tier pits then what I could easily do not to spend ten minutes in a super boring a not rewarding boss fight.
Odd season devs at it again to ruin everything and give us a season of snore. They must find reading the ingredients on the back of a shampoo bottle as “entertainment”
LETS BE REAL THIS GAME HAS ALWAYS BEEN ASS AND HAS ALMOST NO REPLAYABLITY WE ONLY PLAY THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO TORTURE OURSELVES THIS GAME IS SO BAD IVE GONE BACK TO PLAYING APEX LEGENDS WITH RANDOMS THAT LEAVE RANKED AS SOON AS THEY ARE DOWNED
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Im only gonna be playing the even seasons. The odd season team just keeps shitting the bed.
I keep doing that too. I saw the robot for S3 and was like "Nope" and played Last Epoch.
THEY CANT GET AWAY WITH IT!
They have 2 teams working on seasons alternatively.. so season 5 is the team that sucks(the odd team). They did season 1 and season 3 and now 5...
I like farming super powerful items, though, I prefer uniques to change attack styles like Rouge’s scoundrel kiss aspect, rather than simply adding +100% damage to something
As a casual and less skilled player, I probably won't touch this feature/mode. There's already the over-cooked Helltide, NM dungeons, the Pit, The Gauntlet, and [uber] bosses in the game that is more than enough difficulty for my skill level. Seems all they care about is content for the top 1%. Personally, I'd like to see them do something with the open world and consolidate some of the currencies, which I think are already getting out of hand.
I want S4 to become the Eternal Realm. I'd rather keep playing it and not have to play S5.
I'm actually pretty disappointed with the team that handles the PTR. One of my biggest complaints is that it seems like that team is very lazy and what they do to orchestrate a good environment for us the players to test. They don't have to reinvent the wheel but they can look to other game platforms and previous series in the Diablo franchise to see what had worked for their PTR. This includes things like an item cache that will drop a copious amount of gold materials crafting goods, a ton of resplendent Sparks so we could just craft items, along with class specific or generic unique. This would give us the opportunity to dive in and start testing some of these builds at the end game level. Instead what we end up with is a scenario where we have to farm the PTR which feels really bad. It also doesn't give us a real accurate representation of how people can handle the new seasonal mechanic with the rebalanced game design with the new edition of the unique items they have added this season. I think they really need some all hands on deck testing to ensure that we end up with something that's reasonable for all the classes. I've said it once I've said it a barbillion times... The Barbarian can't be the only op class in the game with multiple builds. Either they Nerf the Barb down to where everyone else is or they bring everyone else up to where the Barbarian is.... I think the smart play is to bring everyone else up to that level. Otherwise just rename the entire game franchise Barbarian
"Bring barb down to us or bring us to barb" exactly that. Blighted aspect nerf and wither nerf is a great example. No class can equip nearly as many offensive aspects as barb and rogue. It should make sense that the little offensive aspects we have and can equip are huge multipliers rather being somewhat in line with their numbers.
i mean.. if you can't beat em, join them.
If u are still playing diablo 4 and u are not playing barbarian you are clearly playing the game wrong...
And there's no way u can use the fun excuse here either, cus WW barb is by far the most fun build in the game.
so honestly people who don't play barb right now, are kinda stupid...
@akhsdenlew1861 so what you're saying is in a game that offers variety, we should all be the same?
@@frustrated0goat it doesn't offer variety, it offers the illusion of it.
You think that there are 5 classes, but there are only 2.
Barb and the Rest.. and 1 of those 2 options is clearly the correct option, while the other is 100% wrong.
IF the game TRULY offered variety, then it would be different.
The game obviously wants you to play barb and only barb and it literally sprays that fact in your face 24/7 and you still think that there is variety... it's just an illusion of it and not even a good one.. lol
@@akhsdenlew1861 I don't disagree with you're saying. My comment was sarcasm actually. I have a barb and all the others as well. I only play barb as needed. Other than that, I mostly play sorc and rogue. It is an illusion but unfortunately it's still there as well. I don't play a game to be like everyone else. I just stick to what my character allows me to
Season 1: trash
Season 2 : nice
Season 3 : who even played it?
Season 4 : very nice
Season 5 : well we all know how it goes.
They need to can the team that does the odd number seasons
The idea of the season is fun, but the execution was terrible, unrewarding and lacking a lot of stuff.
There is a pattern right there, 1 bad 1 good :)) , so S6 will be nice I guess, on S5 we all gonna take a break
@@-Ezzie- yeap, honestly not playing season 3 made season 4 better for me.
They cant keep getting away with it! Odd Season team fix your stuff
I hate the torment stacks… they’re tolerable on Torment bosses but the Pit bosses have too much going on at times
Jep indeed and not every class has tons of evade abilities :D
If they do intend to keep this mechanic then they should either cap it or it should wear off overtime, that way it rewards good gameplay
They should change the name from Diablo to The Barbarian Game
Sadly that is a vibe we are getting
I really just started playing Barbarian. Compared to my other classes while leveling he rarely dies at all. Kills quick too.
@@michaeljohnston73 Yes, but in the end game with full gear, the Barbarian stacks a lot of power and damage reduction. In my point of view, they need to rethink the paragon board of all the classes to add more damage reduction to them. A better solution would be to change the armor nodes to damage reduction. This will give players more control of their character, whether they want to be a glass cannon or a tank.
Another thing that annoys me the most is that if you are not playing on a full-wall monitor, it is hard to see where you need to position yourself to dodge all the mechanics, and sometimes you don't even know what hits you.
I'm still enjoying the game, don't get me wrong, but sometimes it is frustrating to die from a missile that you don't see.
ill skip s5, and wait for the next expansion.
As a casual player I actually got two characters to 100 and enjoyed season 4. I felt powerful. Not sure about season 5 but will give it a go but if it's not good then will look at another title to play. I think that's the rub, people will play if they feel good or feel they are powerful but leave if it is the opposite.
I hate boss debuffs, you are right, I don’t believe I hear any RUclipsr wanting more debuffs
We can handle it somehow - But the casual gamer is straight being ripped
Hopefully Blizzard is watching the streamer reactions because so far I haven't seen ANY of them actually enjoying or looking forward to season 5. I thought they learned from their nerfs in season 1 and everyone left the game, but apparently not.
Iam excited for the new uniques - But it looks like 2 weeks of fun and then done so far
In terms of the loot we get at the end of the hordes, it baffles me that they, for some reason, REALLY hate deterministic things and REALLY LOVE adding layers upon layers upon layer of RNG onto your every move.
I don’t want it to rain legendaries like in D3 or Borderlands. I don’t want to receive 40 items and insta salvage 39 of them.
It’s fine if the T8 compass gives 3 items… if they are 3 items of QUALITY.
Why that seems to be such a hard concept to grasp (other than the obvious forced played retention) I’ll never understand.
I'm happy with S4. I finally have the freedom to make any build I want the way I want. Now with the S5 PTR I felt the opposite, like the game is forcing me to play the way THEY want. I'm getting tired of this one step forward, two steps back dynamic Blizzard is doing with D4.
This is exactly how I felt!
They need to start implementing passive tree for those mechanics, maybe even for hell tides and such to pop out more stuff and to configure our looting experience. These roguelike game mode without any spec tree gets boring after 5 runs.
It feels like a lazy development.
Thats my point - 0 Long Term Enjoyment/Progression!
Played every season so far, over 100 days on d4. For me s5 is a pass as it stands right now, people may argue s4 had no mechanics but the rework of the system alone made it really interesting and a new learning curve. This new mechanic for end game just isn't it, they need to massively overhaul it to be a true "end game" experience.
They get creative and do what they want rather than what we want, walking it back later
They make it more like D3 and people flood back
They get creative and do what they want rather than what we want, walking it back later
This is the cycle. They need people who actually play games developing these games. These DEI hires don't play games.
my biggest ask for uniques is the game needs less shacos and tyraels and grandfathers and more black rivers. Uniques should make new builds possible or change existing builds in a fun way. The best example of this always brings me back to PoE. There is a bow in that game that makes all your lightning damage poison. Which then changes the build in every way damage wise. I hope one day we get to that point in D4. More fractured winterglasses less crown of lucions.
Howl From Below unique gloves are very cool. They change how you play a corpse explosion build
@@scottwade1054 yeah I’m not saying they don’t exist I just want them to stay the course in the future and not make more boring stat sticks. Uniques should do interesting things with a purpose not be played in every single build. You don’t need to make uniques that get used by everyone you need class uniques that change the simple skill tree in exciting ways and then make them strong enough to use. Like that Hakon amulet is a really cool idea for rogues but it’s just not strong enough and the supporting key passive was weak but now that it’s being buffed maybe that build can be viable to at least do 100s pits.
Also a lot of these issues with uniques get fixed by putting loadouts in the game. If you can have multiple setups then a lot of these weaker builds can be used for speed farming and things like that. It’s just not possible while you need to be doing 100s to masterwork your gear and level new characters to make swapping between setups possible.
boss debuff is stupid and frustrating and why even do those compasses? very very bad ideas...wow.
Season 1, 3 and now 5 all are just underwhelming.🤷 Trying to be positive Season 2 & 4 have been Amazing😊
I'm pretty sure massive nerfs and not buffing the weak skills with massive multiplicative damge, is the biggest fumble. not the pit. Druid is weak and cappped now. Sorceress is nerfed and still a meme. Each class has a large skill tree that only lets you play 1-2 skills from it each season. Just buff the whole skill tree with X damage, finally. Also, the "new endgame" content is a complete failure.
Nerfing Wither really ripped the season for me.. no more Shadow Wave
Made 0 sense so far
I think we really don't know how things will be it's a month away and a lot of negative feedback so far. If worse case scenario it will be a short season lol
I mean it's odd number season. Nothing surprising
This notion has to stop - It can't be the simple "answer" to the problems :)
@@P4wnyhof It'll stop when it stops being true.
Blizzard response to the horde loot problem is going to be to NERF helltide
Possible!
The developers are doing a great job at ruining this game.
Tormented stacks and dmg resistance aura mobs needs to go away, the tormented stacks means you cant play a fun build but you MUST be tanky af and some builds are annoying to deal with those dmg resistance aura mobs on :D I cannot imagine a world where those 2 things are must haves in a video game
The Damage aura mobs iam ok with - Otherwise world tier 4 is kinda useless
The Damage Stack is plain stupid
what does it matter te event itself is 2 floor, not bigger than a cursed shrine, same mobs we seen for a year, is this the ammount of content they are going to push for a full season, what is the accual reason to even pay next season if this is it. 900 devs and they came up with this. its? someting is broken in that company. Live service lol
Time to check the next Last Epoch cycle instead this.
Putting the dmg debuff on pit bosses is beyond ridiculous why are we making pit less enjoyable and fun?
Spot on!
Can‘t we just have Infernal Hordes? Would be fun to just have a portal somewhere where you can set your level and get in, for free. Why does every additional game in this game cost currency?
Game Time - But yes I do agree!
I like build defining uniques, if they are done right. Good examples of that are Fractured Winterglass, Gloves of the Illuminator or even the new Axial pants (even though they suck, but the idea was there).
Those uniques change the way the skill feels completely and that is great. What I am not a fan of are the numbers-games like the new "300% damage" Sword for basic attacks. Your skills look still completely the same, you just ramp up the numbers. They could have made it: "You spawn 3 shadow clones of yourself that repeat your attacks on enemies around you" - That would still do the same damage but change your Interaction with the skills and the game.
Just take a look at D3 and how for example the Gears of Dreadland Set change the way you play DH compared to before the set or the Innas Set change Monk.
Edit: The Season mechanic if pretty meh.. I only did around 15 of them and I already am bored. They would need to revamp the whole thing:
1. Do away the keys and let it be mats like for PIT. I don't want them to clatter my inventory again after it just got better.
2. Let us choose the difficulty instead of farming boring T3 ones to just do a bit better higher one.
3. Amp up the monster spawn rate having to wait between spaws ins painful if the amount you kill reflects the rewards
4. Make the Boons/Banes waaaay more interesting.
5. Make the Rewards worth it. - the Material chest should spawn a good amount of Pit mats, the current legendary chest should only spawn uniques and the GA one should also cost 25. And ramp up the Gold chest to at least 5 times.
Looks like you didn't try inferno T6 or T8.
Just break down some of them at the occultist guy. You will get a scroll to increase the difficulty and amount of waves. T7 is spicy. T8 you really need meta.
I hate that now the bosses will have that one shot debuff. Why don't they just up our level cap so we be able to get more paragon point to fill out our boards more and more powerful and different glyphs.
Takes to long you get very little reward. The 250 chest is impossible in its current state. Why is it always a boos fight after it is done. The Fell Council should spawn in the waves. Everything is boss fights it is annoying. Why cant we have amode like the Infernal Hordes that goes on infinitely getting progressively harder with the bosses mixed in.
Season 5 is a miss. Might do the season pass for the cosmetics and be done.
I think it will be fun seeing all the reworked uniques - But thats about it right now
I don't get what the hell they are doing in the D4 dev team... I mean, they already have a great wave mechanic level in D3 now with lots of hordes coming in. Why not take inspiration from there? It feels like they are not even playing their own game, way to disconnected from what is happening and how people are enjoying it...
My understanding of the campfire chat is that the infernal hordes are not the season power, they are something they will just add for the endgame, they have not told us what the power is
Why do people compare everything to Barb lol. Maybe they added the extra boss damage to just make the top end more difficult. Literally necro bone skeleton one shots lol. Also if the VERY END GAME boss is super hard that’s not a bad thing. It should be hard because….. it’s the END GAME.
It’s also PTR so for the people saying “Season 5 sucks” and “I’m skipping Season 5”, just know it isn’t finished yet. 🤷🏾♂️ they will make it better as people play the PTR. Have patience or stop watching Diablo on RUclips since yall dislike the game so much and play something else.
How you can balance gameplay if classes make bilion and bilions of DMG...you can't ... Most classes Play just one skill... barbarian suppose to SWAP weapons and the best builds spamming Basic skills ?🤣How you can enjoy spamming one skill
This PTR was a waste of time as they didn't give us tools to test anything. No Uniques, No Unlimited Materials, No Unlimited Gold, No unlocked Aspects and Recipies. LMAO.
The balance between the classes doesn't exist and even doesn't exist within the class between different skills.
Core skills are dead as they introduced even more OP items for basic-based builds and they buffed basic skills via Uniques and Aspects to the Moon already.
BTW: would be nice if you could make a reaction video from Perra Gaming named "I Played Diablo 4 Season 5 And It's.." :)
6:06 "Just make it more rewarding." BINGO! That is the problem with Diablo right now. It is just a grind and nothing more. It is just killing stuff as fast as possible so that you can get to the 10,000th kill that has something that is actually useful, and then doing this 3 more times as the first 2 times you bricked the looted item. The nested RNG is killing the fun for me. I'm installing other ARPGs to start playing and try out because of the tempering alone. The reward(loot) on investment(time) is at an all-time low and it is so obvious that Blizzard just wants D4 to be a loot slot machine. When you can't come up with content (new zone-wide stories with quests and unique rewards), you just stretch out the content you already have by making everything take longer. That and add unncessary complexity to it all.
It really seems the d4 team have given up being original, everything coming to d4 is just old d2 or d3 content with some sparkles thown on it and sadly people have paid them 140nzd for the expansion, this is bascially a preview of the effort in the expansion. They seem to put more time and effort in to which costs us money aka cosmetics and expansions than improving the base game. Just making my decision to swap over to POE2 much easier.
This is the feedback I've sent to them: "Hi, my feedback and opinion on the Season 5 PTR is that I'm... perplexed. I tried both the builds used in Eternal and in previous seasons, and using the new aspects, with Legendaries, Uniques and Ubers, the feeling is always the same:
My character seems to "not function well", it's not so much a failure to express potential, but rather the feeling of having "the handbrake on". Worse still, with the bosses and especially the Pit Bosses the feeling seems of absolute randomness... The fight is reduced to going around the boss, attacking and trying to survive, it makes sense to really understand if and why one suffers and inflicts more or less damage. I don't know if this depends on some mechanics introduced that I haven't yet managed to understand or if it's a bug in the interactions of the elements of the build, but the perceived effect is absolutely random... I trust that when season 5 comes out the gameplay is made clearer and more understandable. Thanks and have a nice day."
All colbert creators talk about build requiring mythic unique as if everybody just has an harlequin crest in terror stash. It's my biggest peeve in RUclips at the moment
i 100% agree with what you say. to be perfectly honest, i want to see stuff like season of the malignance where there were ability altering effects not just 20 lines of code that changes the back ground numbers. i think blizzard should start testing there game with numbers damage numbers off and see if there is an "obvious difference" in the play. To extend on this point they reworked the way affixes are done on items and gave us manuals. what if they scripted in a blacksmith quest to go hunt down blacksmith manuals in the depths of Kyovashad ruins in which the city was built upon to protect, or a quest from the followers of Inarius for the "scroll of longevity" that give max life, total armor or health regen. My point is that there are consistent BIG opportunities that are missed and i am very disappointed with a company that has there resources to do so. the community is willing to wait, just give us a good reason to.
Rework abyssal scrolls to do what you're talking about... +1 tier and give you 1-8 random affixes (like the boons but with additional loot, etc) to start with maybe 50 aether or whatever.. sounds like a bad dungeon crawling mobile game where you always start from 0 every single time..
D4 will never be consistently good. The loot changes were pretty good, but they completely broke the balance of the early game. Why have capstone dungeons and different world tiers? Early game is completely trivialized by the power creep. It has already got out of control and balancing it will never happen. D4 bad. On the bright side only 8 days until Last Epoch 1.1 ❤🎉
I'm with you P4wnyhof. I always play a sorc (at least) and in S4 I have 4 characters at 100. I did every class but druid. The S4 PTR was so fun there were those that asked Blizzard to extend it a week. Not this time. This PTR is like a bad version of S4.
I really don't think the have a plan on what they want the game to look like.. They bring in builds that are fun (frozon orb) then release a amulet that is 10 times better than fractured winter glass, making the orb build dead.. There is zero choice, you have to play the meta or the build is crap.. I'm more worried about the expansion and how its going to function with all this.. Pretty shocking so far form blizzard after 1 year of the game
Uber Lilith made me give up Diablo 4.
I spent so long getting a build just right, was able to one shot her then immediately die because the game turned from a ARPG to a bullethell where everything one shots me while I have maxed def stats and all the health I could possibly stack.
Them doubling down on this isn't making me feel like coming back next season.
i wont be doing it for just 3 random drops, why do that when you can go do Boss and pit grind, the maps fixed, if i want a hard dungeon, the PIT Push is harder, the drop from internals needs to drop guaranteed GA items and unique at the top level, there has to be a reason to not boss grind to go there instead, pits are fun, pushing or grinding for gearing 12/12 etc on different spec gearing. Another currency, another thing not to run. I'll stick to S4 currencies until they fix it but lets see feedback from players hitting devs.
I am not concerned. Have 2 level 100 chars in Season 4 and can not nearly do Lilith or an Uber Boss. If this mechanic comes, I simply stop playing diablo 4. more time for other stuff. It's only a stupid game.
I've said it before, I'll say it again... Just let every single possible build/skill capable of being cheese.. Diablo is no longer the game it once was. Diablo stopped being diablo since D2LoD v1.09 so F it, just let every build be corny and just be rid of it.. Tired of playing games where there is a niche meta based on gear.. Forcing you to get xyz in order to even play a build- I hate it.
Shorten the time it takes to complete a horde, make hordes more intense with much better boons, once you complete the waves and go into the boss room, have the boss randomly choose between 1 of 5 different bosses, example could be King Leoric, Pindleskin from d2, Diablo etc... and have each boss have different drops, one boss could drop legendary gems, another could drop set pieces etc... Then introduce an orb that allows you to influence your compass to get a better chance to fight a specific boss at the end of a horde, because your focused on getting an item that , that specific boss in a horde drops. Thats my solution to hordes, what do you guys think?
the main problem why they re just running back and forth is, that diablo 4 is just a bad game.
there is literally NO FUN in fighting in the game
bad graphics
no effects
just a very very bad casual game
Tell them to give us the ability to temper *UNIQUE* affixes onto gear. Let us make uniques with the affixes we want on them. Make this expensive to do and use mats that are hard to get. (Maybe these mats come from the new content) annnnd there is the solution to uniques not being used enough without overpowering them plus a reason to do the new content. This would take minimal additional coding.
infernal hordes doesn't sound cool for 1 second. It's a freakin arena something done in dozens of games if not hundreds. Nothing more boring then clearing wave after wave in a confine area. It's usually used as a filler for games lacking content to keep you busy. I'm not playing that BS.
ummm.....sorry my dude but DOZENS of builds in season 4 are highly dependant on uniques, not all but quite a few Barbarian in particular
Personally I'm planning to skip S5 and come back to check out the expansion release. The odd # season dev team dishes out unenjoyable garbage, so I'll just play something else.
Major criticisms for D4 for me, is and has always been stash space. It's still horribly small for a hack n slash loot game.
Season 5 is going to teach this Dev team a lesson in time vs rewards. Hopefully....
Sounds like they have some boring ass, no personality having Devs at Blizzard. they need to hire some folks with imagination, there are tons of games out there with really great ideas they could incorporate.. but they are busy being boring.
d4 franchise clearly is losing the direction now, they basically just copy what d3 was doing, adding two digits of the big dmg from preseason, and call it new season. one way they are doing is boost item stats, which is the main reason of huge gap between classes. another way is keeping on feeding us so call new uniques that are so op make the old ones look like a joke.
I missed S0 which they really know how to make a good game, there was hard content, and easy speed farming for casual.
Tormented stack in the pit are really bad and they have to go, and the infernal hordes needs tuning and feel more rewarding i do like it, i wish it has different themes and scenarios, rewarding unique, are they not suppose to be build defining? your build can work without it, but when you find that unique isn't that the final piece of the puzzle to be stronger?, like rogue combo points is hard to miss on the condemnation dagger
I spent all of maybe 45 minutes in the PTR and did one round of the new mechanic and quickly decided season 5 was gonna be frustrating. Odd season team is such a disappointment.
It is so discouraging to see this game constantly being tuned to challenge the streamers who are wearing full sets of ubers. I am not that good a player but I had been having fun. S5 looks like a complete no-go for me. This new format dungeon is nope..
Why should they bother? They already got your money, twice now, plus the cosmetics. Wtf is with $200 for a game you don't even own?
Its again like the odd season scheme(they suck),by look of ptr all mechanics sucks they lack rewards that motivate players to play..its better to farm bosses than to do infernal horde.
Only NMD is needed for torment bosses, masterworking, glyph and item farming.
Merge these contents and make a finest kind of dungeon that worths our gamer time.
I just don’t care. Not playing season 5 at all. Didn’t buy the dlc. Not buying the dlc & definitely not playing the dlc. Diablo is dead to me
Blizzard is a woke company. They have diversity for employees, that s good, but they should try competence before
I would like to see a unique for druids that change earrh skills into ice. It would be awesome to have Pulverize a cold skill that applies chill with chance to freeze.
Depends on how much they will nerf evetyghing if I even going to try season 5. The season mechanic looks very boring so that alone wont bring me to play more D4.
They keep the stacks in pits and I won't play. The game is already full of BS one shot mechanics. Add more and I am out for season 5.
I stop playing this garbage, sadly the game has potential but this developers just suck, i guess the best i can do its wait for POE2 and see if its as good as people think it is.
I played S4 couple hundred hours because it was fun. Seems S5 is skip. Even seasons seems to be playble. Odds skip.
lol they had one job... again raise the other classes to match the one right? nope we are being funneled into one build per class if ya play anything else.. its a sweaty try hard ugh ya know 1.0 got released on 7 days to die lol
I dont ge why they added the echo mechanics in the pit, it is killing me mentally, if my gear gets to 50% it cost me 400k to repair, like wtf man its stupid
So harder bosses which are the ugly part of the pit for me. I tend to play lower tier pits then what I could easily do not to spend ten minutes in a super boring a not rewarding boss fight.
Odd season devs at it again to ruin everything and give us a season of snore.
They must find reading the ingredients on the back of a shampoo bottle as “entertainment”
Team 2 knocking it out the park again I see....
Just play EVEN numbered seasons
LETS BE REAL THIS GAME HAS ALWAYS BEEN ASS AND HAS ALMOST NO REPLAYABLITY WE ONLY PLAY THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO TORTURE OURSELVES THIS GAME IS SO BAD IVE GONE BACK TO PLAYING APEX LEGENDS WITH RANDOMS THAT LEAVE RANKED AS SOON AS THEY ARE DOWNED
Seems like blizzard is really going hard on the “odd seasons are the worst” season plan smh 🤦🏻♂️
Blizzard is holding their guns for the season with a paid expansion. Season 5 is only another filler season.
If they make over power is just not for worrier they made it way to strong and not enough on anyone else balance is key
Infernal Hordes sounds like the most horrible, lackluster, brainless sh*t i've ever seen.
Season 5 gets instaskipped due to stupid devteam still not getting fired for producing nothing but shit.
Well, they need for season 6 to be good since it is launching with the expansion, so it is as intended for season 5 to be bad.
If significant changes dont happen to season 5, and I mean significant, its going to usher back in d4 bad.
why not freaking nerf barbarian instead of boosting the bosses? blizzard showing bias hard as fuck
That helm is just a big dmg increase, its not defining item to make a build playable.
wow so weird.. i am casual dad and get owned in the pit now with my mages so i am not playing now as its frustrating
i rly wont unaccept your hardcoreblaster title, but u playing necro😁😁😁😁😁
i have to say so far after ptr it looks and feel boring!! Dont know if i play the season 5.
Imagine getting a 4 GA unique that you need and then get a bottom roll on the aspect 😵💫
The way I see it now I will play the new mode once, maybe twice and then never touch it again
They should give glyph exp at the end, like the max 125 stones in d3
What i dislike is that players on console don't get the same game as those on PC.
Pls dont make that clunky slow af build not the best for necromancer
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