I love how in her opening statement, Kandy puts masturbation on the same level of depravity as violent rape. Clearly we are dealing with a superior mind here, folks.
Everyone's in favor of censorship. Some want to censor porn, others want to censor criticism of the government, and others want to censor anything that touches a nerve.
If parents are concerned about what their children are listening too then either educate them about issues of concern, teach them responsibility and allow them the opportunity to learn or go listen through their record collection, do not allow them a mobile/smart phone, instruct them not to listen to anything without you present, etc but take responsibility instead of promoting or propagating censorship which is only laying the first section of a road built of good intentions that leads to hell.
Weird she would use the music of the 50s and 60s to show how wholesome it "used to be." In the 50s and 60s, parents hated that stuff too. In the 60s, the complaints were that the music was filled with sex and references to drugs. And she used the Stones are a comparison?! Sympathy for the Devil, for Christ's sake. Brown Sugar in the early 70s. Gimme Shelter talks about war, rape and murder. The Beatles wrote songs about drugs such as Got To Get You Into My Life. Day Tripper's lyric, "She's a big teaser," was a play on, "She's a prick teaser." In that song, they sing about the girl playing one-night stands only. Paul McCartney wrote a song called Why Don't We Do It In The Road? for crying out loud.
I remember hearing some main stream interviewer from the 50's where somebody asked elvis if he could take the boogie woogie out of rock so it doesn't make kids want to wiggle. Funny how history repeats itself. A few months ago they talked about twerking for about a month straight.
3:44 "my parents like.. don't don't.. like.. they don't like me listening to the music but I.. I'm.. I..explained to them that its like just normal music.."
This is funny in looking back at it. I'm not a big fan of many of the bands and artists who put out vile crap and don't listen to it myself, but at the same time, I think if people want to listen to it, then so be it. But putting labels on recordings never did anything. And with MP3s now it matters even less. I'm a big fan of Frank and even he on occasion has pushed the envelope. But rock lyrics is the least of our concerns. For example, the corruption in govt. and business is 100 Xs worse.
What a task Frank chose when he got involved in this. He's a great speaker, but the people on the other side were so stupid. Not much has changed, stupidity has probably increased.
I love how Frank opened up by making the whole thing seem like a joke, because it is. We never hear about people censoring classic art pieces that blatantly show genitalia... Why's that? Because it's "classic"?
Candy!.....oh, yeah, I remember you! You were stuck to seat 35 on Fido 3! Yes folks, Candy is the kind of all-American girl who will do anything....yes, anything for like, 50 bucks.
Hey Tipper, where's your kid get the money to buy that Prince album? Think it out. I know you can figure it out. Where did that money come from? Visualize! You got this!
That opening line from Zappa was hilarious..Wow, this is dated. Seems so innocent compared to the shit thats going on today. I wish an asteroid would just wipe us all out and end the stupidity.
I have a copy of Joe Satriani's "Engines of Creation" with a "Parental Advisory Explicict Content" on the front of it. It's an instrumental album! There is a cut on it called 'Borg Sex' which is a guitar instrumental!
i love frank and I dont believe in censorship. But many people are influenced by lyrics, violence, and pornography. Its only ovbious. The debate then becomes what to do with the conundrum.
Taken in historical context. Frank called it. Today, we have states banning books. ( no difference between banning and burning. ) If that's not censorship by way of state propaganda, what is?
Frank Zappa was a visionary, he owned everyone he ever debated with, in the most intelligent ways. Kandy Stroud and the PMRC were just uptight conservatives (with their views on this at least).
+JPMcFly1985Two Kandy Stroud runs an international PR firm and is a consultant for Democrat presidential campaigns. Far from being a conservative, she is quite liberal. Google her name, her politics are quite clear. She is no conservative.
my point is, she TOOK the conservative view on this issue, compared to Zappa and most other musicians. And I betcha a million bucks she supports Hillary, so she's not a true progressive. #BernieOrBust
JPMcFly1985Two #FeelTheBern He was an asshole..he kept hitting on me when he was in New Orleans..it was pathetic he was 35 and married ...he did not mention his wife...he said he was "between ladies"..WHAT ?! I was a 22year old desk clerk at the Fairmont...everyone was laughing at him.. I finally had enough and told him what I really thought of him...perhaps I could have been more tactful... BUT HE WASSSSSS AN ASSHOLE..PERIOD.. HE WAS STUPID WEIRD...NOT BRILLIANT WEIRD LIKE Lenny Bruce or Groucho Marx or Jack Kerouac
Did you see that radio station manager from NYC? Wow! He was a baby... couldn't have been older than 23... at the highest. Looked like Ralph Macchio. The program director of the radio station I worked at in the 80's was in his late mid-forties. I can't imagine a radio station manager looking like someone I could have gone to high school with. But DAMNED! Wasn't Frank all 80's!! "In" hair, "in" clothes... very 80's. Wow. "You have a problem with sex." They all do, Frank. Fear of fun.
I heard it more like this: "I have three children, and I want the government to fascistically promote my religious POV (1st amendment broken), and stop musicians to express their opinions freely (1st amendment again).
"I did not feel that was appropriate for my then ten year old child to have purchased" - Unless she lets her ten year old child walk to the record store and buy albums with her money, Tipper is buying the album for her ten year old child. Therefore it is her fault, and her responsibility to ensure it does not happen again.
Where was Prince in all this, the only musicians that went to DC were Zappa, John Denver and Dee Snider. I still remember buying the Judas Priest album back then Defenders of the faith. Lol. Eat me alive. 🤣
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Frank Zappa: father of four and a Mother of Invention
"Frogwash, I say!" - love Zappa
"And your opponent who you will be debating against is Frank Zappa! Good luck with that!"
0:59- right out of the gate!!! LOL!!
Frank, we miss you so much!
I love how in her opening statement, Kandy puts masturbation on the same level of depravity as violent rape. Clearly we are dealing with a superior mind here, folks.
Parents pushing their responsibilities off on the govt.
"Teach your children well."
Everyone's in favor of censorship. Some want to censor porn, others want to censor criticism of the government, and others want to censor anything that touches a nerve.
If parents are concerned about what their children are listening too then either educate them about issues of concern, teach them responsibility and allow them the opportunity to learn or go listen through their record collection, do not allow them a mobile/smart phone, instruct them not to listen to anything without you present, etc but take responsibility instead of promoting or propagating censorship which is only laying the first section of a road built of good intentions that leads to hell.
Weird she would use the music of the 50s and 60s to show how wholesome it "used to be." In the 50s and 60s, parents hated that stuff too. In the 60s, the complaints were that the music was filled with sex and references to drugs. And she used the Stones are a comparison?! Sympathy for the Devil, for Christ's sake. Brown Sugar in the early 70s. Gimme Shelter talks about war, rape and murder.
The Beatles wrote songs about drugs such as Got To Get You Into My Life. Day Tripper's lyric, "She's a big teaser," was a play on, "She's a prick teaser." In that song, they sing about the girl playing one-night stands only. Paul McCartney wrote a song called Why Don't We Do It In The Road? for crying out loud.
Frightwolf she was comparing lyrics, not defining them
i replayed Zappa's intro over and over, and it gets me everytime.
The phrase "Frogwash, I say!" is officially and eternally in my lexicon.
I remember hearing some main stream interviewer from the 50's where somebody asked elvis if he could take the boogie woogie out of rock so it doesn't make kids want to wiggle. Funny how history repeats itself. A few months ago they talked about twerking for about a month straight.
Loved Franks' interduction.✌️
Frank's first lines were genius. I love you Frank.
Tipper knew better than to debate Frank, so she had candy Stroud do it. She was such a coward
"Frogwash, I say!"
Zappa was the best.
3:44
"my parents like.. don't don't.. like.. they don't like me listening to the music but I.. I'm.. I..explained to them that its like just normal music.."
When i was seven i listened W.A.S.P and wanted to drink blood out of a skull but i never did.
Zappa's facial expressions from 0:51- 0:58 are absolute GOLD.
This is funny in looking back at it. I'm not a big fan of many of the bands and artists who put out vile crap and don't listen to it myself, but at the same time, I think if people want to listen to it, then so be it. But putting labels on recordings never did anything. And with MP3s now it matters even less. I'm a big fan of Frank and even he on occasion has pushed the envelope. But rock lyrics is the least of our concerns. For example, the corruption in govt. and business is 100 Xs worse.
Clearly this woman is not capable of raising children if she requires government intervention.
I once bought a Grateful Dead album and was very shocked to later find out that those gentlemen not only abused drugs but also squirrels.
Frank's opening remark pretty much summarized this entire debate: "Censorship is bad for you, and sex is good for you." Yup... very true. Case closed.
OH FUCK THAT'S JUST EPIC
4-6 hours of rock music a day was bad? Wow, could you imagine if they had seen what kids are watching on the internet today? LOL.
What a task Frank chose when he got involved in this. He's a great speaker, but the people on the other side were so stupid. Not much has changed, stupidity has probably increased.
stupidity has been commercialized, eh.
I love how Frank opened up by making the whole thing seem like a joke, because it is. We never hear about people censoring classic art pieces that blatantly show genitalia... Why's that? Because it's "classic"?
Seriously, what little kid was listening to Frank Zappa? Crap, most ADULTS don't even listen to Frank Zappa! Sadly! LOL!
Damn, we need Frank back!
Watching this 32 years later to the day. What a world we live in.
Dan Lawson ikr
I love how Frank parodies the whole situation because how ridiculous it is. Go Frank.
As much as I miss Frank's insight, in a way I'm glad he's not around to see what kind of bullshit we're up against NOW.
Candy, of course I'll introduce you to Warren!
Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus.
Hey, I'll buy you a pizza
You'll love it, it's a way of life.
youandwhosearmy? The boys in the crew have got a present for you!
youandwhosearmy? Take a little ride on the mixer's face.
Candy!.....oh, yeah, I remember you! You were stuck to seat 35 on Fido 3!
Yes folks, Candy is the kind of all-American girl who will do anything....yes, anything for like, 50 bucks.
I think it was spelled phydeoux 3
The second Zappa started talking I knew this would be good
"HOGWASH I SAY!"
Frogwash
RIP Prince
"I have 3 children and I believe they should be protected (not by me), by reform of the music industry.".....funny as hell.
Got a 40 dollar bill Kandi likes poodles
Hey Tipper, where's your kid get the money to buy that Prince album? Think it out. I know you can figure it out. Where did that money come from? Visualize! You got this!
RIP FRANK
it's funny when she quotes Good Golly Miss Molly you sure know how to ball! and she's in favor of that song.
"Sex is healthy, but it is not an animal act."
Uhh......
Zappa never cared if anyone ever listened to his music, he believed in the 1st Amendment which is the only reason he even got into this whole issue.
If my kids imitated Frank Zappa I would be very proud
She thought Rob Halford was singing about a woman.
Grant Boughamer Zappa should have told her it was about a man doing a man....love to see her expression then!
Grant Boughamer nobody wanna eat his ugly ass
That opening line from Zappa was hilarious..Wow, this is dated. Seems so innocent compared to the shit thats going on today. I wish an asteroid would just wipe us all out and end the stupidity.
i ONLY bought the albums with the warning label ... epic backfire
the funny thing is that pop lyrics and espacially pop music videos nowadays a more profane than ever, in spite or even more so because of the labeling
I have a copy of Joe Satriani's "Engines of Creation" with a "Parental Advisory Explicict Content" on the front of it. It's an instrumental album! There is a cut on it called 'Borg Sex' which is a guitar instrumental!
i also think that it's hilarious that the PTA is asking that records be VOLUNTARILY labeled.
"Hogwash, I say! Censorship is bad for you, and sex is good for you!"
I thought Sugar Walls was about that funky wallpaper from Charlie and the chocolate factory. o.O
Nicely put!!!
frog wash I say!
"Frogwash, I say!"
I love how she brought up Little Richard. Have you seen Tutti Fruttie's original lyrics? Sheesh...
GO FRANK!!
Zappa was a genius. You'd think they'd have found someone to debate him who was at least competent at arguing.
-jcr
Kandy Strout knows every pornographic song better than anyone else lol
i love frank and I dont believe in censorship. But many people are influenced by lyrics, violence, and pornography. Its only ovbious. The debate then becomes what to do with the conundrum.
We've come a long way baby
I think I'm going to sample Candy Stroud speaking these lyrics and compose a song ... fun stuff.
Notice the title isn't "Candy Stroud on Nightmatch." Shows you who's more effective.
If you think the 50s didn’t have suggestive lyrics, you’re wrong. Listen to Hank Ballard for one.
Love this!!! God I miss Frank!
I Eff-Blank-Blank-Kay ...
Like a beast.
Did Candy Stroud ever get sued for copyright infringement?
Frank pointed out at the time that it was all simply about distracting people from a tax they were imposing on blank cassette tapes.
Taken in historical context.
Frank called it.
Today, we have states banning books.
( no difference between banning and burning. )
If that's not censorship by way of state propaganda, what is?
Frank Zappa was a visionary, he owned everyone he ever debated with, in the most intelligent ways. Kandy Stroud and the PMRC were just uptight conservatives (with their views on this at least).
+JPMcFly1985Two who the hell was kathy stroud.....sounds like a stripper or playboy playmate name.
You're right, it even sounds like a porn star or stripper name lol. Made her an even bigger hypocrite for being so uptight about sex.
+JPMcFly1985Two Kandy Stroud runs an international PR firm and is a consultant for Democrat presidential campaigns. Far from being a conservative, she is quite liberal. Google her name, her politics are quite clear. She is no conservative.
my point is, she TOOK the conservative view on this issue, compared to Zappa and most other musicians. And I betcha a million bucks she supports Hillary, so she's not a true progressive. #BernieOrBust
JPMcFly1985Two #FeelTheBern He was an asshole..he kept hitting on me when he was in New Orleans..it was pathetic he was 35 and married ...he did not mention his wife...he said he was "between ladies"..WHAT ?!
I was a 22year old desk clerk at the Fairmont...everyone was laughing at him..
I finally had enough and told him what I really thought of him...perhaps I could have been more tactful...
BUT HE WASSSSSS AN ASSHOLE..PERIOD..
HE WAS STUPID WEIRD...NOT BRILLIANT WEIRD LIKE Lenny Bruce or Groucho Marx or
Jack Kerouac
Did you see that radio station manager from NYC?
Wow!
He was a baby... couldn't have been older than 23... at the highest.
Looked like Ralph Macchio.
The program director of the radio station I worked at in the 80's was in his late mid-forties.
I can't imagine a radio station manager looking like someone I could have gone to high school with.
But DAMNED! Wasn't Frank all 80's!!
"In" hair, "in" clothes... very 80's.
Wow.
"You have a problem with sex."
They all do, Frank.
Fear of fun.
Does anyone know if Frank Zappa ever came out in defense of N.W.A & 2 Live Crew?
I heard it more like this: "I have three children, and I want the government to fascistically promote my religious POV (1st amendment broken), and stop musicians to express their opinions freely (1st amendment again).
Frank..........your spirit lives on!
"it's a porno hearing session, and the kids are hearing everything."
3:44 is that Walt Jr.!?
It couldn't possibly be him because he wasn't having breakfast.
BetitoBass lmfao. This is a great comment.
4-6 hours of rock music a day? thats equal to a school day of rock.
No Candy, let's have them watch crooked preachers 24 hours a day...
I can't believe, this has really happened. Strange, those Americans...
she looked at that Prince album and said "Looks good for my 10 year old"? Then heard the song Nikki and was surprised????? BullShit
"I did not feel that was appropriate for my then ten year old child to have purchased" - Unless she lets her ten year old child walk to the record store and buy albums with her money, Tipper is buying the album for her ten year old child. Therefore it is her fault, and her responsibility to ensure it does not happen again.
Hahahaha Smokey's little qoute is ridiculous.
Love this 👍
@ryacus
Which guy?
Charlie or Frank?
Frank... always the intellectual, always the gentleman.. fucking epic.
zappa's a master debater
I wonder if Al demanded his Zapp and Prince records back in the divorce settlement? And since when was Sheena Easton Rock?
Charlie Rose... LOL he must have listened to Porn Rock as Candy Stroud states.
Sorry, Candy, but Frank was the man!
2:36 "Wierd" Al?! How do you WRITE a typo...?
that radio show director looks like ralph machio the karate kid
0:58 priceless
Where was Prince in all this, the only musicians that went to DC were Zappa, John Denver and Dee Snider. I still remember buying the Judas Priest album back then Defenders of the faith. Lol. Eat me alive. 🤣
amazing how much harder core lyrics have gotten over the years ..... no innuendo , straight up down and dirty. . .
Sex is healthy but its not an animal act.
It's the literal definition of an animal act.
LMFAO. why won't folks understand that??
do you mean liberal conservative, or was he a member of the democratic party (ugh, political parties...)?
Tipper Gore, mother of four, now divorcing Al!? Her morality raises an eyebrow.
The torture never stops...
@esigus Ralph Macchio does not have the same lizard eyes.
FROGWASH!!! C'mere Candy, and wash my forg!!!
Intresting that it´s rhe samw story today with videogames...(allmost the) same argiuments and ewerything.