I was working for Frank doing security when he did this show with Charlie Rose. The show was edited for TV because Frank obliterated Candy Stroud and it wasn’t shown on the final edit. We stayed at the Regent hotel in downtown DC. And had a great two days.
@Zolar Czakl John had diabetes and could not make it to DC. He actually lived close by. Regarding Frank’s comment on his mail order site. Frank told me he didn’t want to see the questions in advance, so it wasn’t a setup. He didn’t know the questions in advance one the 81 interview either. When Frank passed away I continued to work for his family doing the “Z” tour in 94 and Zappa Plays Zappa in 2007 as well as security for Gail & family on personal appearances. It was a great relationship with a wonderful family.
THAT is a great story my friendnd I have a few of my own as a musician. A censored debate on cendorshiphip. Manufactured Consent with Charlie Rose. Was this before Frank went before Congress? Or the CNN debate? He tore it up. Franks the man and we need him.e My question is, what was Candy like after the show?
@@artigraphmultimedia1489 this was well before the hearings. One of the early debates Frank involved himself in. We left right after the show so I have no idea how Kandy made out. I know so much was deleted from the show because Frank went off on the entire premise of the show.
Dear Mr Ash, it is such a thrill to see your interviews with Frank, you dressed up in your State Troop uniform and at the same time giving this musical genius your admiration and love for his music. Such a contrast and I am sure Mr Zappa loved being there because of the slightly weird combo you two represented. I am also sure your interviews with him had an anti drug educational effect on some. I was happy to see 2 of Franks shows in Stockholm in the seventies, he is my no 1 musician since 1973. Best regards, Ulf Hellerström of Sweden.
I would like to thank the PMRC for fighting for "Parental Advisory" stickers on tapes. I knew that if it had a sticker on it, that's the one to buy. I was 13. Nobody stopped me. The stickers actually sold more albums and tapes.
When Frank Zappa comments, what is wrong with masturbation? You hear a way to enthusiastic yeah! From a guy in the audience. I thought that was hilarious.
Because most people masturbate to porn and get addicted. This addiction mentally ruins young men and encourages sex trafficking to continue making videos for said addiction.
'It's the responsibility of the music industry to reform itself' - no, it's up to you as a parent to protect your children from whatever you deem as harmful.
Crazy huh? These days you’re considered a domestic terrorist if you try to protect your school-age kids from being indoctrinated with sexual perversions 😮
They tried so hard to have a serious opener for the debate, and then comes Frank's look on being described as "singer song writer" at 01:15 followed by Frank's opener: "Hogwash I say: censorship is bad for you, and sex is good for you!" 01:21. That's what we love on Frank!
more than the platform, the generations that wish to impose law parallel to law, as Zappa said. Zappa did well & better here than at the state hearing. the bit brings those cultural conflicts to light well. interesting to see that Zappa broadly maintains teaching family your own way where the theist wishes to project state change to prevent being raised differently than whom accomplishes such parameters for law. if this topic wasn't about youth then it'd be pressing on adults again.
what a sorry state of youth (& parents themselves) to hold currency & media in question. now, the new industry is the computer, & we know that this is far more versatile in device in question now than audio records.
Elvis, who she holds up as being an example of a good ol' fashioned singer, also sang, "“I know baby you can't lick it I'll make you give in Every minute, every hour you'll be shaken By the strength and mighty power of my love” and "One Night of Sin." Dude was gyrating all over the place. Come on.
When I was about 12 or 13, I convinced a friend of mine to buy the very first Mothers of Invention album, Freak Out!. Neither of us had ever heard of the Mothers nor we were in any way familiar with the album. He gave it to me to take home to listen to it first. I put it on and, frankly, it sort of scared me. It wasn't the kind of music I was accustomed to and I didn't really like it. Not that many years later I became a big fan of Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. The point being; when I was younger it was apparent that Freak Out wasn't intended for me - it was beyond my musical comprehension - or people of my age.
12:29 "I'm a Constitutional fundamentalist. I like it the way it is. I don't want to have it re-written for me by people in Washington." Let Frank's words continue to echo on...
I mean, it's supposed to be a "Living Document" and all, but yeah, it's pretty good right now and I don't trust a single one of our over-privileged suits to change a single stroke right now.
Look about how Zappa was looking at Kandy the whole time, and all she was doing was look at the camera. She didn't want to have a real discussion, she wanted to promote her ridiculous ideas and not have them challenged. Zappa actually wanted to have a real dialogue.
I never thought about it like that but you’re right. Alright, who’s putting up the money to make this happen? THIS is a porn script that needs to be done. Someone contact Brazzers.
many thanks for this channel, it's a gem! much love p.s. HOW I miss this human being and I'm still learning from his knowledge spread in any possible sound, color, form and shape
this was around the time albums begun to include labels like explicate lyrics which in hindsight was hilarious because those albums with those labels were highly sort after by everyone. Frank Zappa was always based, The man was more then just a musicians he was a true philosopher.
The whole quote, from Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare: "If music be the food of love, play on; Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting, The appetite may sicken, and so die."
Notice the difference between Stroud and Zappa. At some point Stroud starts to pause and stutter and when Frank speaks, he does NOT stutter nor pause at all. Zappa was a true speaker.
I did a presentation on this in college. Zappa is a genius and a damned HERO - he put a call out to ALL the big names in music at the time, and the ONLY one to respond was Dee Snyder of Twisted Sister, who attended the court case with Tipper Gore and the PMRC.
I believe John Denver of all people was also there, the reason being that they took offense to "Rocky Mountain High". Overzealous simpletons lacking any sense of nuance or context assumed it advocates drug use, when in reality it's a celebration of the natural "high" he obtained from enjoying the great outdoors.
My dad said Zappa music was different but he could hear that there was a lot musically going on. Thought Zappa quite intelligent. That was early Mothers. I actually played "mother People" from the Mothermania album in english class as poetry. Circa 1966 hi skool jr yr. I had a few real avante garde teachers. I miss Frank like a man who's mind was the most sexy thing about him. He was and is an endangered species. Many blessings.
She is right, when I was a child during this period, we didnt read pornpgraphic books. We went straight for the illustrations and read the pictures 📸 ❤😊
@WilliamRossReinhardt A rare interview I recorded with Frank in 1974 is very revealing. He goes into some detail about a concert rampage inn Germany. He also rants about Jimmy Carl Black and the Mothers. Its on my channel (KBOO radio Playlists).
kids will get Penthouse camel cigarettes,beer, wine and watch porn,,,fact of life and many will get from under daddys mattress, if your parental units do the real job,,,,none of this will become a issue
I really don't want my son seeing her wearing such a revealing dress and showing her hair. Charlie Rose seems to have come around on his view of masturbation when he was sexually harassing co-workers.
The best point is at the end, I think, which is almost completely sidelined, and that point is "information doesn't kill you". This alone was, I think, enough to destroy Kandy's and PMRC's arguments. If we are safeguarded by bad stuff, we won't have some of it in us to protect us from it.
Frank Zappa was real, honest and authentic. These old shows had actual morality and integrity. The stuff that comes out of the MSM today is appalling, really it’s just a bunch of clowns sensationalizing stuff while debates are reduced to just one side speaking their argument while the other side is placed on the back burner. It’s no wonder podcasts done by smaller, independent organizations are getting more flair than the same tired MSM stations that parrot the same ideas over and over. The best comparison to this old rock lyrics debate is some of the podcasts you see today on RUclips and other websites.
I was raised in environment the likes of which Miss Stroud would have approved of. I was asked to believe that sex could only be practiced by people who were in a committed, romantic relationship. That was toxically untrue. Two or more consenting adults can engage in sex without any goal or prerequisite other than trying to make themselves feel good.
The one thing Zappa should say and I'm very surprised that he doesn't (as he was a very smart guy) is that people who set out to censor things (whether they be music, film, art, books etc) only inadvertently publicize them more as they draw attention to the contentious piece of art that people are then are drawn to, as they want to know what all the fuss is about. Human beings are naturally curious beings (have you ever wondered why people slow down at car crashes?). As Oscar Wilde once said 'There's only one thing worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about'. There's one thing I would have said to Kandy Stroud, the PMRC and Mary Whitehouse if I had ever met them is; 'You are trying to put out a bonfire with paraffin'
Heavy metal music doesn't cause antisocial behavior. Antisocial people tend to like heavy metal music. It allows us to express our anger and frustration in a healthy way. Without the release of the music. There would be MORE violence. Not less. You can study people and ask questions, read books and still be ignorant. You have to be crazy to understand crazy. That's just how it is
I don't need Candy Stroud to tell me what she thinks is porno and what isn't. I'd like to find out for myself. And If I find it vulgar , then I find it vulgar. Hopefully we can all agree that it is up to each individual to define what they think is vulgar and make their own individual decision.
Where is a 10 year old getting the money to buy that music Candy? The government shouldn’t be parenting your children Candy, you should be doing that🙄 I was a teenager during these debates and it was absolutely ridiculous.
What kind of music was Charlie Rose listening to that resulted in his behavior? Maybe if that had been banned he would’ve conducted himself more appropriately. Damn kids and their rock music!!! 🤘
And Zappa would have approved a whole hell of a lot more of "Dumb Dumb Donny" and those who would choose to NOT change the Constitution. There are laws regulating our SPEECH today, not just the music we want to put into our ear holes. Speech. We aren't even allowed to say our opinions anymore. And speaking of Donny, I would be afraid to put a sign of his in my yard because somebody would throw a brick through my window or burn my house down, because the propaganda spout has completely tainted their minds.
He calls others dumb yet he can't even spell country correctly. You're a perfect representation of a modern-day democrat. Just say whatever you say no matter how wrong you are but you act like you're always correct
Could someone please tell me which Stones song contains lyrics about cutting up women,putting them in freezers and snacking on them? My death metal cover band has somehow missed this one.Thank you.
Funniest thing to me is rob halford was thinking about men lol Edit: and the fact that frank keeps getting cut off but its allowed Edit 2: the first audience member reminded me of 'Harry, You're a Beast' lol
"That's not how children should learn about sex." I AGREE! Rock musicians should not be doing YOUR job as a parent. You should be teaching your children the facts plus values, such as, act responsibly. Then your children will understand the lyrics as you understand them (as entertainment), and perhaps have similar opinions. Schools can also teach sex education so that STDs and unwanted pregnancy can be avoided. What we need is EDUCATION, NOT CENSORSHIP.
It's absolutely fascinating however much things change, how much they remain the same. What Mr. Zappa and Ms. Stroud are really debating is the government's place in society. I believe the radio station program manager hit the nail on the head. These values need to be taught at home. Obviously, parents can't be everywhere and control everything...so...we need the government to control everything? That is EXACTLY the crux of this debate. I have no doubt that both Ms. Stroud and Mr Zappa are speaking from the heart and in their eyes, they are both speaking the truth as they see it. Both are doing exactly what they think they need to do to "save society". The problem is, and it's a HUGE PROBLEM, that when we surrender our rights and responsibilities over to any government, then we, as a society have completely abandoned any form of morality, spirituality or guidance which is absolutely supplanted by a dictatorship by definition. Dear mom and dad. Please don't shield us from life because sooner or later, we're going to have to live it ourselves, and we'll have to make our own decisions. Teach us the values and wisdom that we will need to make good decisions so that we can move forward and contribute to society. Please teach us how to think, not what to think. Every society that has gone down that road in all of human history has ended in mass death and destruction. THAT is no exaggeration... LOOK IT UP!
Interesting one of the last people you see in the audience is a kid and the only one quoting naught words and porno movie titles (ideas given to the kid) was the frigid chick in the debate…not the horrible rock star.
You know the old adage that nothing is certain in life other than death and taxes? It's time to add a third item to the list: self-righteous busybodies who presume to determine on everyone else's behalf what is or isn't appropriate or within the boundaries of good taste under the guise of "protecting the children".
Self-appointed guardians of all that's good and pure who seek to impose their morality on others are far more dangerous than the contents of any song, film, book, etc.
Holy shit we need Frank back. The man was so far ahead of his time.
I was working for Frank doing security when he did this show with Charlie Rose. The show was edited for TV because Frank obliterated Candy Stroud and it wasn’t shown on the final edit. We stayed at the Regent hotel in downtown DC. And had a great two days.
Thanks for sharing your memories of the times you spent with Frank Chuck. I have always enjoyed you sharing them with me.
@Zolar Czakl John had diabetes and could not make it to DC. He actually lived close by. Regarding Frank’s comment on his mail order site. Frank told me he didn’t want to see the questions in advance, so it wasn’t a setup. He didn’t know the questions in advance one the 81 interview either. When Frank passed away I continued to work for his family doing the “Z” tour in 94 and Zappa Plays Zappa in 2007 as well as security for Gail & family on personal appearances. It was a great relationship with a wonderful family.
THAT is a great story my friendnd I have a few of my own as a musician. A censored debate on cendorshiphip. Manufactured Consent with Charlie Rose.
Was this before Frank went before Congress? Or the CNN debate? He tore it up.
Franks the man and we need him.e
My question is, what was Candy like after the show?
@@artigraphmultimedia1489 this was well before the hearings. One of the early debates Frank involved himself in. We left right after the show so I have no idea how Kandy made out. I know so much was deleted from the show because Frank went off on the entire premise of the show.
Dear Mr Ash, it is such a thrill to see your interviews with Frank, you dressed up in your State Troop uniform and at the same time giving this musical genius your admiration and love for his music. Such a contrast and I am sure Mr Zappa loved being there because of the slightly weird combo you two represented. I am also sure your interviews with him had an anti drug educational effect on some. I was happy to see 2 of Franks shows in Stockholm in the seventies, he is my no 1 musician since 1973. Best regards, Ulf Hellerström of Sweden.
Zappa was one of the greatest minds in the music world and outside of it. Such a sad day when he passed away.
Have to agree with you. 😑
And the parental advisory sticker only drove more teens to buy the records
It's always amazing that they put Frank in the role of the bad guy during most interviews?
Can someone make a loop of Kandy reciting lyrics over and over? It's HOT!
Man I miss Frank and the old KROQ.
I would like to thank the PMRC for fighting for "Parental Advisory" stickers on tapes. I knew that if it had a sticker on it, that's the one to buy. I was 13. Nobody stopped me. The stickers actually sold more albums and tapes.
I think it's telling that CBS didn't want Frank Zappa asking questions of her. They chose a side at that point.
Love this channel! Long live the memory of Frank Zappa!
When Frank Zappa comments, what is wrong with masturbation? You hear a way to enthusiastic yeah! From a guy in the audience. I thought that was hilarious.
Exactly. Mass debating ,such as this programme shows , is what helps us come to some kind of co-operational consensus!
Because most people masturbate to porn and get addicted. This addiction mentally ruins young men and encourages sex trafficking to continue making videos for said addiction.
damn, everyone? LOL@@nickydee569
'It's the responsibility of the music industry to reform itself' - no, it's up to you as a parent to protect your children from whatever you deem as harmful.
Crazy huh? These days you’re considered a domestic terrorist if you try to protect your school-age kids from being indoctrinated with sexual perversions 😮
They tried so hard to have a serious opener for the debate, and then comes Frank's look on being described as "singer song writer" at 01:15 followed by Frank's opener: "Hogwash I say: censorship is bad for you, and sex is good for you!" 01:21.
That's what we love on Frank!
man it's real easy to see how deep these platforms are in their own bubbles.
more than the platform, the generations that wish to impose law parallel to law, as Zappa said. Zappa did well & better here than at the state hearing.
the bit brings those cultural conflicts to light well.
interesting to see that Zappa broadly maintains teaching family your own way where the theist wishes to project state change to prevent being raised differently than whom accomplishes such parameters for law.
if this topic wasn't about youth then it'd be pressing on adults again.
what a sorry state of youth (& parents themselves) to hold currency & media in question. now, the new industry is the computer, & we know that this is far more versatile in device in question now than audio records.
Elvis, who she holds up as being an example of a good ol' fashioned singer, also sang, "“I know baby you can't lick it
I'll make you give in
Every minute, every hour you'll be shaken
By the strength and mighty power of my love” and "One Night of Sin." Dude was gyrating all over the place. Come on.
Damn it Frank why did you leave us… we so need you here now😭
If he’d lived today he probably would have died.
Your 10 year old will be shakin his dice in his bedroom no matter what music he’s heard.
"SHAKIN HIS DICE" lol I never heard that one lol
Legend has it, Kandy was never heard from again after.
I miss Frank.
You, me and many others.
When I was about 12 or 13, I convinced a friend of mine to buy the very first Mothers of Invention album, Freak Out!. Neither of us had ever heard of the Mothers nor we were in any way familiar with the album. He gave it to me to take home to listen to it first. I put it on and, frankly, it sort of scared me. It wasn't the kind of music I was accustomed to and I didn't really like it. Not that many years later I became a big fan of Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. The point being; when I was younger it was apparent that Freak Out wasn't intended for me - it was beyond my musical comprehension - or people of my age.
try it out again!!!! i listened to my first mothers album when i was 16
12:29 "I'm a Constitutional fundamentalist. I like it the way it is. I don't want to have it re-written for me by people in Washington." Let Frank's words continue to echo on...
I mean, it's supposed to be a "Living Document" and all, but yeah, it's pretty good right now and I don't trust a single one of our over-privileged suits to change a single stroke right now.
@@ANunes06 just so some of you people know Zappa could not stand Donald Trump
@@RedGarnett-n2p What did he say that indicates supporting Trump?
Zappa could see bullshit salesmen who only care about themself a mile away, tbh@@RedGarnett-n2p
At 21:30 .. "an uplifting song like We Are The World.. " - followed by laughter in the audience. 😂
Zappa cleaned her clock in this debate.
Look about how Zappa was looking at Kandy the whole time, and all she was doing was look at the camera. She didn't want to have a real discussion, she wanted to promote her ridiculous ideas and not have them challenged. Zappa actually wanted to have a real dialogue.
1 minute in ... this woman had statements and opinions, Zappa talked facts and arguments. It is up to an interviewer to point that out
Frank was really holding himself back, had he been sitting there enjoying his favorite vegetable, things would have gotten way more interesting
Ironically, Kandy Stroud and Frank Zappa would make a couple of decent pornstar names.
I never thought about it like that but you’re right.
Alright, who’s putting up the money to make this happen? THIS is a porn script that needs to be done. Someone contact Brazzers.
Underrated comment
LOL, Zapp that Kandy
All I know about kids is if there is an advisory sticker on an album that’s the first one they’d grab. (at the record store. Remember those?)
Zappa is the only genuinely honest person in this conversation. Charlie Rose, the hypocrite weirdo is clearly siding with the fascist Stroud.
Being honest does not mean being right.
Actually it does. Otherwise why the need to lie?
Her head would explode if she knew the Judas Priest song probably was about a man
many thanks for this channel, it's a gem! much love p.s. HOW I miss this human being and I'm still learning from his knowledge spread in any possible sound, color, form and shape
this was around the time albums begun to include labels like explicate lyrics which in hindsight was hilarious because those albums with those labels were highly sort after by everyone. Frank Zappa was always based, The man was more then just a musicians he was a true philosopher.
What’s the alternative to “explicit lyrics”? Vague, meandering, muddled lyrics?
@@jeffryphillipsburns😂😂😂😂😂
They forget that Purple Rain is a soundtrack to an R RATED MOVIE! lol
Very true.
Thanks for watching!
40 years later, free porn all over internet
The whole quote, from Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare: "If music be the food of love, play on; Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting, The appetite may sicken, and so die."
Notice the difference between Stroud and Zappa. At some point Stroud starts to pause and stutter and when Frank speaks, he does NOT stutter nor pause at all. Zappa was a true speaker.
I did a presentation on this in college.
Zappa is a genius and a damned HERO - he put a call out to ALL the big names in music at the time, and the ONLY one to respond was Dee Snyder of Twisted Sister, who attended the court case with Tipper Gore and the PMRC.
I believe John Denver of all people was also there, the reason being that they took offense to "Rocky Mountain High". Overzealous simpletons lacking any sense of nuance or context assumed it advocates drug use, when in reality it's a celebration of the natural "high" he obtained from enjoying the great outdoors.
Yep, and he sold boo-coo albums and tickets/ merchandise too! OpporTUNEistic .
My dad said Zappa music was different but he could hear that there was a lot musically going on. Thought Zappa quite intelligent. That was early Mothers. I actually played "mother People" from the Mothermania album in english class as poetry. Circa 1966 hi skool jr yr. I had a few real avante garde teachers. I miss Frank like a man who's mind was the most sexy thing about him. He was and is an endangered species. Many blessings.
Subscribed! Thanks for the great Zappa vids!
You're welcome.
Thanks for watching and subscribing.
She is right, when I was a child during this period, we didnt read pornpgraphic books. We went straight for the illustrations and read the pictures 📸 ❤😊
I remember all this. It should be VOLUNTARY compliance. And if you don't volunteer...the mighty shit hammer is coming down!
I remember watching this when it premiered I was like 12 years old
These people's heads would have exploded if they heard the music from today. WAP comes to mind
And this was befor 2 live crew.
@WilliamRossReinhardt
A rare interview I recorded with Frank in 1974 is very revealing. He goes into some detail about a concert rampage inn Germany. He also rants about Jimmy Carl Black and the Mothers. Its on my channel (KBOO radio Playlists).
Something tells me this woman never got 'F blank blank K'd' properly in her life.
Just say it, she was frigid.
Frank Zappa was, on so many subjects, spot on!
kids will get Penthouse camel cigarettes,beer, wine and watch porn,,,fact of life and many will get from under daddys mattress, if your parental units do the real job,,,,none of this will become a issue
Apparently she didn't raise her children to think.
14:25 - The audience cut that occurs in the middle of this statement deserves a god damned Emmy.
I felt a sense of pride in buying a tape with that black label on it😁
EXACTLY. That’s what I’ve always said. Such a label will only be taken as a mark of quality for those so inclined.
Frank rules!!
Watching in 2023 with wide eyes
I really don't want my son seeing her wearing such a revealing dress and showing her hair. Charlie Rose seems to have come around on his view of masturbation when he was sexually harassing co-workers.
The best point is at the end, I think, which is almost completely sidelined, and that point is "information doesn't kill you". This alone was, I think, enough to destroy Kandy's and PMRC's arguments. If we are safeguarded by bad stuff, we won't have some of it in us to protect us from it.
Frank Zappa was real, honest and authentic.
These old shows had actual morality and integrity. The stuff that comes out of the MSM today is appalling, really it’s just a bunch of clowns sensationalizing stuff while debates are reduced to just one side speaking their argument while the other side is placed on the back burner.
It’s no wonder podcasts done by smaller, independent organizations are getting more flair than the same tired MSM stations that parrot the same ideas over and over.
The best comparison to this old rock lyrics debate is some of the podcasts you see today on RUclips and other websites.
"I would rather have my children remain ignorant about some things." Great parenting concept, lady! Your comment spoke VOLUMES.
We like our labels, don't we? Call it 'porno rock'' and watch the ratings jump.
I was raised in environment the likes of which Miss Stroud would have approved of. I was asked to believe that sex could only be practiced by people who were in a committed, romantic relationship.
That was toxically untrue.
Two or more consenting adults can engage in sex without any goal or prerequisite other than trying to make themselves feel good.
And now 40 years latter, 5 years are exposed to a lot worse.
The one thing Zappa should say and I'm very surprised that he doesn't (as he was a very smart guy) is that people who set out to censor things (whether they be music, film, art, books etc) only inadvertently publicize them more as they draw attention to the contentious piece of art that people are then are drawn to, as they want to know what all the fuss is about. Human beings are naturally curious beings (have you ever wondered why people slow down at car crashes?). As Oscar Wilde once said 'There's only one thing worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about'. There's one thing I would have said to Kandy Stroud, the PMRC and Mary Whitehouse if I had ever met them is; 'You are trying to put out a bonfire with paraffin'
I got newsfor you lady it wasn't a woman Rob Halford was singing about
frogwash I say.......LoL. Franks expression at his introduction tells all.
I wonder if any of those pear clutchers had ever listened to any Cole Porter lyrics?
"I get no kick from co-caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaine...."
All Frank's kids turned out normal.
Heavy metal music doesn't cause antisocial behavior. Antisocial people tend to like heavy metal music. It allows us to express our anger and frustration in a healthy way. Without the release of the music. There would be MORE violence. Not less. You can study people and ask questions, read books and still be ignorant. You have to be crazy to understand crazy. That's just how it is
29:26 Oh look Charlie Rose getting handsy there - who'd have thunk it?
Frank should have prepared a little bit more for this
I don't need Candy Stroud to tell me what she thinks is porno and what isn't. I'd like to find out for myself. And If I find it vulgar , then I find it vulgar. Hopefully we can all agree that it is up to each individual to define what they think is vulgar and make their own individual decision.
Man and now we got a whole internet where kids can look at naughty videos at the click of a button, and they thought music was bad
That Savage Grace LP is hard as nails
Where is a 10 year old getting the money to buy that music Candy? The government shouldn’t be parenting your children Candy, you should be doing that🙄 I was a teenager during these debates and it was absolutely ridiculous.
What kind of music was Charlie Rose listening to that resulted in his behavior? Maybe if that had been banned he would’ve conducted himself more appropriately. Damn kids and their rock music!!! 🤘
I believe he is a fan of 'Cock-Rock'.
What the heck is that little kid doing in the audience
5:40 if only teens now were the same, times really mustve been good.
Looking back at this now--I laugh. And look where all that naivete has lead us.
This was back in 1985 ,AND LOOK TODAY WE HAVE COUNTY MUSIC AND DUMB DUMB DONNY!!!!!!!!!!
And Zappa would have approved a whole hell of a lot more of "Dumb Dumb Donny" and those who would choose to NOT change the Constitution.
There are laws regulating our SPEECH today, not just the music we want to put into our ear holes. Speech. We aren't even allowed to say our opinions anymore.
And speaking of Donny, I would be afraid to put a sign of his in my yard because somebody would throw a brick through my window or burn my house down, because the propaganda spout has completely tainted their minds.
He calls others dumb yet he can't even spell country correctly.
You're a perfect representation of a modern-day democrat. Just say whatever you say no matter how wrong you are but you act like you're always correct
Christian albums should get a cult sticker.
The problem seems to be that parents are lazy. You should always be interested in what your kids are attracted to and talk with them about it.
Its all relative isnt it? Kandy's dress would be considered extremely lewd by 1900's Puritans...
So true. It...everything is relative.
relative indeed, she seems hotter dressed than madonna nude....go figure....
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'Good morning welcome to Night Watch'
Is it me, or does this not make sense
This should really be titled Frank Zappa versus a stepford wife
Could someone please tell me which Stones song contains lyrics about cutting up women,putting them in freezers and snacking on them? My death metal cover band has somehow missed this one.Thank you.
Love how this lady has recited more dirty lyrics in 30 min than most rock stars do in a lifetime
Funniest thing to me is rob halford was thinking about men lol
Edit: and the fact that frank keeps getting cut off but its allowed
Edit 2: the first audience member reminded me of 'Harry, You're a Beast' lol
I don’t think that Judas Priest song was about a woman lmao
I thought the same thing
The Mick Jagger clip is hilarious
Zappa panned this interview, it was totally edited. He made up for it w/Ted K in another interview.
Charlie Rose knows pornography when he feels it! 😂
"That's not how children should learn about sex." I AGREE! Rock musicians should not be doing YOUR job as a parent. You should be teaching your children the facts plus values, such as, act responsibly. Then your children will understand the lyrics as you understand them (as entertainment), and perhaps have similar opinions. Schools can also teach sex education so that STDs and unwanted pregnancy can be avoided. What we need is EDUCATION, NOT CENSORSHIP.
WORD! 👏
Now l know were Mr Zappa wrote Joe's garage
It's absolutely fascinating however much things change, how much they remain the same. What Mr. Zappa and Ms. Stroud are really debating is the government's place in society. I believe the radio station program manager hit the nail on the head. These values need to be taught at home. Obviously, parents can't be everywhere and control everything...so...we need the government to control everything? That is EXACTLY the crux of this debate. I have no doubt that both Ms. Stroud and Mr Zappa are speaking from the heart and in their eyes, they are both speaking the truth as they see it. Both are doing exactly what they think they need to do to "save society". The problem is, and it's a HUGE PROBLEM, that when we surrender our rights and responsibilities over to any government, then we, as a society have completely abandoned any form of morality, spirituality or guidance which is absolutely supplanted by a dictatorship by definition. Dear mom and dad. Please don't shield us from life because sooner or later, we're going to have to live it ourselves, and we'll have to make our own decisions. Teach us the values and wisdom that we will need to make good decisions so that we can move forward and contribute to society. Please teach us how to think, not what to think. Every society that has gone down that road in all of human history has ended in mass death and destruction. THAT is no exaggeration... LOOK IT UP!
Kandy Stroud: "Censorship will never find fertile ground in the United States."
How wrong she was.
It's everywhere.
@@Lagzatzappateers you can say that again
It’s funny how all over the place tipper gore was back in the day. A liberal Christian nationalist.
Interesting one of the last people you see in the audience is a kid and the only one quoting naught words and porno movie titles (ideas given to the kid) was the frigid chick in the debate…not the horrible rock star.
I think I remeber Frank saying that she wanted to introduce her childeren to him afterwards. Perhaps they are her kids?
Charlie Rose. LOL
Ya why isn't every song "We Are the World"?
Straight forward problem…
IF YOU DONT WANT YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER LISTENING TO A CERTAIN SONG OR GROUP, THEN DONT BUY IT FOR THEM!!!
Obviously this Stroud woman is very strange. Of course sex is fun. And why should it not be recreational??? What kind of bizarre ideology is this?
You know the old adage that nothing is certain in life other than death and taxes? It's time to add a third item to the list: self-righteous busybodies who presume to determine on everyone else's behalf what is or isn't appropriate or within the boundaries of good taste under the guise of "protecting the children".
PornoRock😂
it's the best kind
Self-appointed guardians of all that's good and pure who seek to impose their morality on others are far more dangerous than the contents of any song, film, book, etc.