King & Whateley dissect EVERY QUARTER of the 2024 AFL Grand Final - SEN

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @michaellee8816
    @michaellee8816 16 часов назад +59

    David kings sack Chris fagan, hire Chris scott hot take is the all time dumbest thought bubble

  • @tonymaiorano2749
    @tonymaiorano2749 15 часов назад +19

    The season to the GF is a marathon. Sydney sprinted early season. Brisbane ran a marathon, and peaked at the finish. Fagan coached at his best. Well done.

  • @deach5254
    @deach5254 16 часов назад +20

    Just a reminder (Kingy), Lions lost the 2023 grand final... by 4 points.

    • @Tosicc567
      @Tosicc567 15 часов назад +4

      "durrrr their window is over durrrrr" they've gotten even younger and won the flag lol he's written the lions off for 4 years now

  • @ghi34
    @ghi34 15 часов назад +14

    Gerard talking about Sydney being spooked, look at David Kings face at the start of this vid. Looks bloody petrified at thought of having to praise Chris Fagan and the Lions.

  • @jamesbuesnel5054
    @jamesbuesnel5054 16 часов назад +15

    King still dancing around the Fagan issue a bit, way too harsh still

  • @bluesful
    @bluesful 16 часов назад +13

    What a flag. To win a premiership from where they were mid-season, then being 44 points down in a semi, and 4 goals down in a prelim is fantastic.

  • @gemilynicholas
    @gemilynicholas 15 часов назад +30

    Getting harder to take Kingy seriously....what's next🙄

  • @amyt3949
    @amyt3949 16 часов назад +95

    Part of being human is being able to admit when you get things wrong. King is unwilling to admit he got it wrong with Fagan and Lions. Its sad and tiresome that he won't give Fagan any real credit.

    • @andrewwattie7144
      @andrewwattie7144 16 часов назад +4

      Everyone else wrote use off. Lloyd said you can't trust, Kane was off us, I mean I didn't hear one person say we'd win the final on a footy show

    • @vigour6786
      @vigour6786 15 часов назад +4

      @@andrewwattie7144 I backed Brisbane

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright 15 часов назад +7

      Trying to maintain face because of that howler 😂😂. It tarnished whatever credibility he had as a pundit. Nobody is forgetting it 😂😂😂

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright 15 часов назад +4

      @@andrewwattie7144Footy Show dudes aren’t great with their calls either, but King went extreme “what are we doing here G. time to replace Fages with Chris Scott” 😂😂😂

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 15 часов назад +8

      ​​@@andrewwattie7144Lloyd and Kane were no near as harsh as Kingy and for most part were pretty fair with their criticism a lot of the time. Kingy on the other hand took it to the point where it felt like he had some kind of agenda against Fagan. Even Robbo called him out on it last week and that's when you know have stuffed up.

  • @michaelrogers8287
    @michaelrogers8287 14 часов назад +9

    King is such a typical know it all arrogant person that got it sooo wrong questioning Fagsns coaching and thinks it’s ok to do so . The negativity that these journalists come up with they should be ashamed of themselves th.ey wouldn’t have a clue amongst the whole lot of them

  • @imalwaysright
    @imalwaysright 16 часов назад +25

    I've said enough about Kingy. I'm just here for the comments 😂😂😂

    • @kymcha
      @kymcha 13 часов назад

      Exactly, comments from the hindsight specialists.

  • @adzidium
    @adzidium 15 часов назад +26

    What a blinder of a finals series "Kingy" has had. The Lions defeat a team in a classic preliminary final whose coach "Kingy" said should replace the Lions coach -- the very same Lions coach who then went on to a thumping win in a grand final against the team "Kingy" tipped, while winning coach of the year in the very same week.
    Also tips a player for Norm Smith medallist who completely chokes and has zero impact.
    Elite level punditry.
    Embarrassing.

    • @cweatherfella547
      @cweatherfella547 13 часов назад +2

      KINGY had a Sydney Swans grand final like commentary analytical
      performance
      KINGY Thumped himself by 10 goals on the biggest stage
      Should Kingy be replaced ?

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright 12 часов назад +3

      Was he also the one that said Heeney, Warner, Gulden were the new Voss, Akermanis & Black LMAO!! What a week 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jsequine927
      @jsequine927 3 часа назад +2

      Yes, the obsession with Geelong and Chris Scott being the greatest coach in the world is pretty tiring. Scott is a decent coach but he inherited a premiership list and they have had a top 2, top 4 lists every season he’s coached. In that period they’ve won two flags and been convincingly beaten in finals in 2014, 2016, 2017 twice, 2018, and 2021 twice. Lost again to the Lions in a great contest, but at home after a week off you’d have to say that was a massive missed opportunity. And Scott was outcoached and forced to react to Fagan’s winning moves. The line that I hear from that Geelong did a great job this year to finish top 4 with a 9-12 list is a laughable proposition. The Cats have all Australians on every line and one of the most dynamic forward lines. They trade star players in almost every season (kudos to Scott and the recruiting team). The idea that their midfield is sub par is also laughable, crushing Port (who have one of if not the best midfield), a midfield that clearly outpointed Hawthorn a week later. Geelong, like Sydney have done a great job to remain at the top for so long but I think we give Scott too many flowers. Compare his record to Clarkson’s (4 flags from 5 attempts and only one preliminary final loss) and he’s not in the same category.

  • @andrewwattie7144
    @andrewwattie7144 16 часов назад +15

    2 years ago Kingy claimed the bombers had a premiership midfield!!!

    • @metatron8386
      @metatron8386 15 часов назад +1

      1 good part does not make a whole team. You need the whole package.

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright 15 часов назад +2

      Think he was raving about the Essendon McKay twin this year too 😂😂😂

    • @alexander8688
      @alexander8688 12 часов назад

      ​@imalwaysright Come on. Anyone can be wrong a few times.😁

  • @TheHaineTrain
    @TheHaineTrain 15 часов назад +9

    Remember when neither of them had the Lions in the rankings pre finals? 😂

  • @jackmag4056
    @jackmag4056 15 часов назад +10

    Imagine kingys narrative if Syd had won by the same margin

  • @matthewpowell9403
    @matthewpowell9403 15 часов назад +10

    Sydney's current list and coaches won't make grandfinal again. Their damaged goods now. No way they could play a grandfinal again without any semblance of confidence.

    • @Jonathan-Sund
      @Jonathan-Sund 14 часов назад +1

      I remember a similar sentiment in 2022?

    • @veddyveddygood
      @veddyveddygood 14 часов назад +2

      Hope Longmire can see the writing on the wall and bow out gracefully when his contract expires end of 2025. He's had a long and successful run but his time is up at the at the Swans.

  • @OliverMisha
    @OliverMisha 15 часов назад +8

    Myths generated by King.

  • @sbd9907
    @sbd9907 15 часов назад +19

    Kingy, you need to apologise for your comments on Faigs earlier in the year to save your credibility.

    • @stevelozevski8151
      @stevelozevski8151 14 часов назад

      Get over it

    • @DunningKrugerJnr
      @DunningKrugerJnr 14 часов назад

      @@stevelozevski8151 your salty tears are delicious 😭 😂

    • @stevelozevski8151
      @stevelozevski8151 14 часов назад

      @@DunningKrugerJnr salty tears? Is that what you got from that comment? 🤦

  • @PeachTristan
    @PeachTristan 15 часов назад +5

    Fagan did the opposite of what Kingy and co had suggested all year... and here we are

  • @matthewpowell9403
    @matthewpowell9403 15 часов назад +6

    Hunger for a win trumps, any tactics.

  • @JustinSteele-gd5nu
    @JustinSteele-gd5nu 16 часов назад +6

    22 swans landed in Melbourne, and 22 swans turned to chickens come 2.20 grandfinal day

    • @pavementpounder7502
      @pavementpounder7502 12 часов назад

      Swans not exactly the most ferocious of animal mascots to start with. Once Katy Perry sung Roar, you knew the ferocious big cats were on.

  • @michaelphillips3713
    @michaelphillips3713 14 часов назад +5

    Sydney dominated this season. They didn't really get seriously challenged through the finals leading up to the GF. So maybe it was understandable they were 'cocky'. Because they definitely were. Any footage of them pre- the game shows that they thought they had it in the bag. Basically just had to turn up and the magic would continue. Whereas Brisbane knew about vulnerability and so came ready to fight. The result bears this out. So does Heeney taking leave when it was gone. Neale played on with his injury, Heeney owed it to the supporters to do the same; gritted teeth and all.

    • @neilpemberton5523
      @neilpemberton5523 7 часов назад

      Great comment. You've summed it all up, I reckon.

  • @phatboi4557
    @phatboi4557 15 часов назад +5

    What does kingy say bout Fagan if lions go on and create a dynasty and just dominate for the next couple seasons

  • @andrewm6267
    @andrewm6267 15 часов назад +6

    I'm not trying to sack King but maybe he should get some assistance with the Xs and Os

  • @MrWilson-zx9ix
    @MrWilson-zx9ix 12 часов назад +3

    Small margins mean they beat GWS. But small margins mean that Lions finished 5 instead of 1.
    ‘Trust trumps tactics’ is shit. You can have both. Fagan is humble. King isn’t.

  • @AydensGuitar
    @AydensGuitar 16 часов назад +23

    David King was calling for Fagan's head after their bad start to the season lmao

    • @craigharris7236
      @craigharris7236 16 часов назад +3

      People are allowed to be wrong ..
      No industry if everyone is right ...

    • @SkandiaAUS
      @SkandiaAUS 16 часов назад +4

      ​@@craigharris7236unless your industry puts itself under pressure to provide an opinion on everything. And position that opinion with enough wiggle room to say "you're putting words in my mouth".

    • @bensmith9984
      @bensmith9984 15 часов назад +3

      @@craigharris7236 It's his job.

    • @deach5254
      @deach5254 15 часов назад +3

      @@bensmith9984 Is it his job to be so wrong? Give him a pay rise.

    • @bensmith9984
      @bensmith9984 15 часов назад +2

      @@deach5254 You would have thought it was considering he still (somehow) has that job.

  • @JamieJaquinta
    @JamieJaquinta 12 часов назад +3

    David’s clear reluctance to acknowledge after incorrect analysis is evident. Lift Mr King.

  • @taliamason7986
    @taliamason7986 15 часов назад +6

    I honestly don't think the Swans have much of that "bloods" culture that won them those Premierships back in 2005 and 2012 and is shows greatly in their recruitment strategy where ever since that massive 2013 off-season when they brought in Buddy Franklin and Kurt Tippet on those ludicrous contracts they seem to mostly prioritise big flashy names. They don't really go after those hard nosed players and great leaders they had in both those Premiership teams . Guys like Lewis Roberts-Thomsom (who was robbed of that 05 Norm Smith Medal), Ted Richards, Jarrad McVeigh, Brett Kirk, Jude Bolton, Barry Hall, etc. Even their so called 3 supstar midfielders don't want to get their hands dirty put their bodies on the line to win and dominate clearances unlike Adam Goodes and Josh Kennedy.
    Curious to hear what some Swans fans think?

    • @phatboi4557
      @phatboi4557 15 часов назад +3

      Horse could've shifted Luke parker to the midfield after half time to provide some toughness around the ball. Don't know if it would've changed much tho but who knows

    • @stevelozevski8151
      @stevelozevski8151 14 часов назад

      They played in the grand final and you're questioning culture. Ive told you before you dont know what the word culture means

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 14 часов назад +1

      ​@@stevelozevski8151Playing in them doesn't mean much if you don't win them. So whether you like it or not the culture has to questioned when a club loses 4 straight with a average margin of almost 60 points.

    • @stevelozevski8151
      @stevelozevski8151 14 часов назад

      @@taliamason7986 the culture has to be questioned? I already told you that you don't know what the word means. 🤦

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 12 часов назад

      ​@@stevelozevski8151I know it a lot than you do.

  • @DrainCleaningAUSTRALIA
    @DrainCleaningAUSTRALIA 13 часов назад +2

    King still wiping a years worth of egg off his face

  • @JM-ns7nk
    @JM-ns7nk 14 часов назад +4

    Get a dog up ya king

  • @Fatfritterstravels
    @Fatfritterstravels 13 часов назад +2

    I'm an old guy watching from overseas, king just does have the basic integrity to say he got it wrong about Fagan and the lions. I'm not even a lions supporter. Lost a lot of respect for him and this show.

  • @mitchelltidball6944
    @mitchelltidball6944 15 часов назад +2

    I see a lot of St Kilda 09/10 about this Sydney group. Hope they dont end up the same way, you’d say with a better board and setup behind the scenes they wont, but that group never played the same way

  • @debbiediehm2011
    @debbiediehm2011 11 часов назад +2

    Media criticism leaves a lot to be desired Kingy. If we reviewed you the way you throw criticism around, you’d be out of a job!

  • @leonardgarrity6737
    @leonardgarrity6737 14 часов назад +2

    Character shines when you say I got it wrong: not it doesn’t matter Tatts everywhere disappointed as he defends Swans as they are better than that even twice in 3 years same group shame shame

  • @nathamwright
    @nathamwright 14 часов назад +2

    His brand if you want a thing to hang your hat on is humanism,he is a good coach who is a good people person.

  • @TheLincolnrailsplitt
    @TheLincolnrailsplitt 12 часов назад +2

    David didn't admit his assessment of Fagan's coaching was wrong.🤷‍♂️

  • @nathamwright
    @nathamwright 14 часов назад +3

    ha ha is all i can muster kingy.

  • @kimharris2599
    @kimharris2599 10 часов назад +1

    In reflection the Grand Final was played last week against Geelong.
    Best game ever, Super.
    Id say Geelong would have put up a better challenge.
    Sydney , had gaps even before they ran out. Yes they have a handful of exceptional players however when it comes to the crunch 12 Sydney players lacked grit, desire, and desperation to go beyond.And those handful of players that carried the rest were burnt out before the big dance. Great effort yes getting there .
    Brisbane well deserved.

  • @177thailand
    @177thailand 8 часов назад +1

    So from now on when King and Robbo are making comments about games players and coaches I think it's time to switch off they're just both a pair of backstabbers

  • @jamie_mac
    @jamie_mac 15 часов назад +1

    The want wasn't there from the swans. I wonder if they have "i have to be the hero on the big day" mentality instead of just do my job

  • @matthewpowell9403
    @matthewpowell9403 15 часов назад +6

    Parker 3 votes last quarter! Your joking ,game was over. Lions just enjoyed the moment.

    • @RetroBackslash
      @RetroBackslash 9 часов назад

      The Lions players were busy hugging each other over on the wing after the Parker goals

    • @traviscrockett8885
      @traviscrockett8885 7 часов назад

      Yep, the Lions had put the cue in the rack well before Parker and Warner showed up. Goals in junk time when you're 70 points down is very different than nailing a goal under pressure a la Sidebottom, Crisp, DeGoey, Daniher, Cameron last year.

  • @MrSimonKatterl
    @MrSimonKatterl 10 часов назад +1

    Lol King must exhausted from all of those backhanded complements.

  • @douglasparker577
    @douglasparker577 11 часов назад +1

    Superb stuff Kingy & Gerard. As always.

  • @karmanho4501
    @karmanho4501 15 часов назад +2

    The REAL reason why Sydney lost the Grand Final: They were the favorites. The last three GF losses endured by Sydney they were the favorites. And with Sydney's last GF win, they were not the favorites. Therefore for Sydney to win the next GF... they need to make sure they are not the favorites. Simple. K

    • @Jonathan-Sund
      @Jonathan-Sund 14 часов назад +2

      There is no way Sydney were the favourites in 2022, they just scrapped over the line against Collingwood at the SCG in the Prelim whereas Geelong destroyed the Lions by 71 points, Geelong were by far the best team all year?

    • @karmanho4501
      @karmanho4501 14 часов назад

      @@Jonathan-Sund You're probably correct with regards the finals formline. I just recalled the commentary around Geelong were that they were "too old, and too slow", whereas Sydney were a lot younger and hungrier. So from that perspective, Sydney were the favorites. It wouldn't have suprised anyone had they won in 2022, but they didn't, so it's all moot now k

    • @Jonathan-Sund
      @Jonathan-Sund 12 часов назад

      @@karmanho4501 I think you might be confused with 2021 season, everyone was tipping Geelong
      “Both clubs entered the game in strong form and on long winning streaks, Geelong having won its last fifteen games, and Sydney having won its last nine games.Geelong was the strong favourite, the TAB offering odds of $1.47 for a Geelong victory against Sydney's $2.70 on game day”

    • @darkmatter7301
      @darkmatter7301 11 часов назад

      Don’t worry I’m pretty sure they made sure they won’t be going in as favourites in their next GF appearance!

  • @rod7139
    @rod7139 30 минут назад

    The bulldogs GF win was assisted by the AFL in the fact, that was the first year the pre final bye was introduced which helped them. The GWS final and the GF against Sydney were so poorly umpired in favour of the Bulldogs, there should have been a Royal Commission .

  • @PatrickVS101
    @PatrickVS101 14 часов назад +1

    Gee, a lot of the stuff King mentions here really sounds like some top notch coaching

    • @PatrickVS101
      @PatrickVS101 13 часов назад

      It’s also worth noting that the Lions had the highest rated Wingmen when the 666 rule was brought in, so it’s a good shout that Fagan and his team are quite adept at predicting how new rules will affect the future game.

  • @rod7139
    @rod7139 26 минут назад

    The key to Brisbane winning was eliminating the influence the umpires could have on impacting the result through rule interpretation! Stevic tried early penalising Zorko for going over the mark yet did not penalise Sydney for the same infringement, multiple times.

  • @peterrob-o2112
    @peterrob-o2112 11 часов назад

    It's very simple David King what Chris Fagan's brand of football is - belief and resilience defined by adversity. Nothing sets you up better for success than dealing with disappointment and working through the tough times when things don't go your way. Trust in each other carries you through.

  • @-paulmp
    @-paulmp 7 часов назад

    Brisbane Lions did 6 ACLs in under 12 months. They had so many injuries that they were using first year players for half the season. Chris Fagan always had the coaching chops to get the job done, King needs to admit that he was completely wrong. They were 1 kick away from winning the Grand Final last year as well.

  • @scotmclaughlin2113
    @scotmclaughlin2113 12 часов назад

    This season is as the season the whole media landscape was full of BS , first year I couldn’t buy in except for Nathan
    Buckley comments , he seemed the only one that embraced it was a crazy season

  • @AntonioVecchio-o9k
    @AntonioVecchio-o9k 13 часов назад

    2 minute drills, x's and o's. That's why this analysis is unbearable anymore it's just doesn't make sense.

  • @GarryAtkinson-z4t
    @GarryAtkinson-z4t 11 часов назад

    You can see why nobody want king as a assistant coach hed be rattling off stats while the opposition are scoring relentlessly

  • @harrisonperkins9758
    @harrisonperkins9758 15 часов назад +1

    Great analysis Kingy

  • @Michael-uw1rc
    @Michael-uw1rc 7 минут назад

    Love listening to this. It is a weekly staple

  • @GarryAtkinson-z4t
    @GarryAtkinson-z4t 11 часов назад

    King and his stats,he trying to say praise without praiseing fagan and the team

  • @fozziewossie
    @fozziewossie 8 часов назад

    Stuff the haters. This is a great segment with great chemistry.

  • @pavementpounder7502
    @pavementpounder7502 12 часов назад

    Swans should ask Malcolm Blight for some advice. How was Geelong 89-95 different from Adelaide 97-98 in their approach to grand finals?

    • @darkmatter7301
      @darkmatter7301 11 часов назад

      Different team, different club. No previous baggage.

  • @AS088
    @AS088 7 часов назад

    So happy Brisbane won (:

  • @Aarhzon27
    @Aarhzon27 9 часов назад

    Typical kingy dribble

  • @davidw4987
    @davidw4987 14 часов назад +1

    Sydney were weirdly tentative. I put it down partly to the weather. It was very sunny with a strong cross wind - not great for footy. Sydney did not adapt.

    • @DunningKrugerJnr
      @DunningKrugerJnr 14 часов назад

      😂😂😂

    • @Charles-qn1bt
      @Charles-qn1bt 12 часов назад

      The MCG is also 5 metres longer than the SCG... If the ground was 5m shorter, I'm pretty sure Heeney and Warner would've bagged 5 goals apiece and the Swannies would've won another thriller

    • @TheLincolnrailsplitt
      @TheLincolnrailsplitt 11 часов назад

      Are you serious?😂😂

  • @M-lt6kx
    @M-lt6kx 14 часов назад +4

    I still think Fagan got out-coached by Chris Scott on the day.

  • @AFLTragic
    @AFLTragic 16 часов назад +4

    The reason Sydney keep folding in grand finals is the same reason Port Adelaide can finish top 2. There’s not many good teams. Very poor era of AFL. Probably a lagging effect of the expansion teams.

    • @_..Justin-Case.._
      @_..Justin-Case.._ 16 часов назад +7

      What?

    • @S3018146
      @S3018146 16 часов назад +2

      Perhaps, if true though it speaks very poorly of teams that fail year after year.

    • @brono7777
      @brono7777 16 часов назад +5

      @@_..Justin-Case.._agree
      What a poor take

    • @lexsaunders1742
      @lexsaunders1742 16 часов назад +9

      What a load of nonsense and an insult to the Brisbane players.

    • @deach5254
      @deach5254 16 часов назад +1

      lol.

  • @ivxample
    @ivxample 6 часов назад +1

    Why is King a specialist? He has got every single GF and final series wrong and by a fair margin.