Maybe change your cleaning practices. Why is there so much lint inside that engine? Any why did you blow the screen that just had metal fragments on it toward several other engines that are being assembled? His attitude changed when he pulled the oil screen off and there was a bunch of shit on it. Oh thats just silicone and lint lol
These are his babies man. He has built what is perfection to him. He maintains that level of care as this is his life. It's a beautiful thing. And educational for some of us lol.
@drivermad1 he has a warranty I am sure, those motors aren't cheap, and he and and Cleetus work together, I'm proud of him standing behind his engine to find out what is wrong
When you buy a SMX you don’t just get a Steve Morris engine, you get Steve Morris AND an engine. Setting the benchmark for customer service 👌 Love these videos Steve, keep up the awesome work!
@@BuddyLargent So you just watch a vid here and there-and present your assholism based on them? Didn't happen to catch the little NA LS earlier this week? Nothing to say about Tom Baileys work? Multitudes of others on the channel.
@@Jake_Hamlin Haven't seen him show up at events he wasn't even running in to check on his work, how it's doing? I've only been watching since Cleetus got the SMX, but I've seen him at 2-3 events checking on his engines, 3-4 checking on his builds like AT Racing. You all just selective minded, hateful, or jealous?
@Mr_Jim_Lahey Haven't seen him show up at events he wasn't even running in to check on his work, how it's doing? I've only been watching since Cleetus got the SMX, but I've seen him at 2-3 events checking on his engines, 3-4 checking on his builds like AT Racing. You all just selective minded, hateful, or jealous?
Would the SMX be a "good" platform for that? When I say good I mean is it already designed or overbuilt in ways that are specifically for boost or do the same principles apply for a big horsepower high compression NA build? I understand that the cam and compression would need to change but ya... Would be an extremely interesting build, but probably "waste" of an SMX..
@@XUncleBossX He could do the same with a lot less investment these these SMX. With the 60 boost he told Cleetus to turn it up to, that's likely 600-700psi in every cylinder-takes a lot of block and head to hold that while fluctuating 8K rpm. Ever seen an exotic Cummings torn down? Turn them up to 150 boost. The most you'd likely ever build with a NA 14 to 1 engine is 150-160psi in each cylinder
@@mypriusisfaster He could turn an SMX into a NA, and do wonders-but why? Don't need all that block and heads to do NA. At most a NA would produce 25-35% of the cylinder pressure of what this block and heads are built to withstand. Waste of build and money.
This channel doesn’t get enough appreciation for the information given and the quality put into this work this is the best channel ever! Super happy I found it I went from watching people race to watching the heart be built thank you for everything you do Steve!! I’ve learned so much watching you
Guys like Steve are pioneers of the industry. Good enough to bring in cameras and tell you every detail for making power. Let's nickname him the professor.
I love that you never try to hide any problems that may occur with your engines. A lot of companies would in fear of backlash. However you sir are a true professional and it’s awesome to watch. Shows that it’s not just about the money, it’s about building the best engine possible.
And it shows Steves high level of understanding and respect for the investigation of why a part has let go! Far too many are quick to blame the builder or part for failure and can't see past their nose to find the real problems. An ego will never build an engine, no matter how big it is. Real builders break parts every day, cause you can't break records without having a wall of broken first!!
I understand why he’s doing it for cleetus. If he didn’t, the bad publicity would ruin him. But I wonder if he does this for everyone? Standing behind his product like that.
@ @Turbogto_guy First of all Steve was successful way before Cletus even came around, His reputation and work is solid around racers! Cleetus could never ruin his reputation! Steve has built engines that have been in customers vehicles for years, Cletus and his shop full of clowns have managed to break almost everything they get their hands on! Not to mention Cletis‘s followers are mostly Young immature children who can’t even afford to live on their own! Also I am willing to bet that the issue with the pump was caused by Cletus and clowns, I am willing to bet that they did not clean and inspect every inch of the oil system! And lastly yes Steve does do this for his other customers!
The best thing Garett has ever done is put the SMX in mullet. I’m so glad you guys are working together, love to watch engine builds, better than anything on tv
My dad and I are just now getting into drag racing. He’s 48 and I’m 26 so we are new to this. Dad is a wonderful engine builder but man I love how Steve just lets us know everything he’s thinking and breaks it down for us dumber guys lol. Thanks Steve!
This is why you always flush the lines, oil tanks, turbos, and anything else that was added to the system. Everyone always goes for the engine builder first because that’s where they spent the most money but didn’t check the cheaper stuff like the custom built oil tank and stuff. (I’m just speaking in general not about Cletus) but the way it was getting aluminum in the filter in the beginning it was probably the oil tank or a bad milled fitting or something simple.
@@RetirementFund750 I was thinking the exact same thing! Steve has a great reputation and Cletus also has a reputation but unfortunately it is because everyone knows it is only a matter of time before Cletus or his so-called mechanics break or ruin something!
What I like about Steve is that he isn't just a business man. He's a friend, he's an innovator and he's learning every day at how to stay on the cutting edge of engine building. Everything he's doing right now for Cleeter is the same thing he does for all of his faithful cusromers. Bravo sir
Dont let the bs from cleetus' community bring you down, we knew exactly how this story was gonna end. someone always gets the short stick every single time he breaks something, regardless of the company. Cleetus tries to calm his viewers down because he knows theyre going to start mess, and he always fails because most of his viewers are either kids who know nothing, or old guys who know everything so you cant blame him for his viewership. His channel is super cool, I really love him as a person, but his content doesnt make anyone any smarter so you get what you get with his fans. This channel is actually educational, please keep it that way and upload as much as you comfortably can.
Steve, don't know if you gonna see this but my theory to what's happening is that the El Camino frame is too flexible for the amount of tension it needs to hold when Mullet launches. So the entire drivetrain needs to take the hit of the launch and that's shoving everything against each other. That's what making the engine gain more play than it should. Whatever it may be, you guys gonna figure out
The easiest way to remove a stuck oil bypass spring is to lightly run a tap into it, and then pull the tap out as a handle. I learned this trick in my air-cooled VW days.
You would need to spin the thing to 30,000+ RPM to get the air speed thru the humungus intake ports. I'm guessing 1500hp would be max without redesigning the heads.
@@cbradley4466I bet with 14:1 and just throwing a 260@.050 cam at it would do 1500 no problem since pretty sure he has done a 672cid smx. Fully optimized I would think 2000 probably doable but with the maintenance nightmare of turning a big cid engine 10k it will not be fun,
I remember reading animal farm for the first time as a freshman in high school it was such a good story. I have always loved that quote!!! Thanks for another great video!!!
How does it feel to have the worlds Cleetus fans going over every square inch of you work to look for faults. By the way. the 17th bolt on the cylinder head was not torqued up to spec......lol. Luv your work. PS: love the sticker on the window. Do you sell them? Its good to be awake.
"It's made to run 70 pounds of boost, I mean 65-70 pounds" n you hear garret do the usual "oh shell take 80" lol still impressed by the smx Steve keep up the stellar work
You just eased his mind....Now he is going to hammer on it and blow it for sure. Garrett knows how blow shit up. Let's see how your engine holds up to McFarland shenanigans.
This might be a dumb question, but when putting the oil pump back together after that plunger was bound up what makes you confident it won’t do the same exact thing again? And what do you think caused it to begin with? Love your work and appreciate your candidness.
Could be as simple as an oil hose fraying where the fitting goes, or a hose getting pinched during install, and the inner section damaged enough to let broken strands of braiding get in to the oil.
You could tell something went through that side of the pump. May have been a piece of that valve spring that broke. But this is the 2nd time that Garrett has had oil pump issues with this engine. First time I think there was still pieces of the mass exodus that Steve suffered from with this block.
In reality, it doesn't really matter if it hangs up again. If it does, now everyone knows what caused it and it's a relatively easy fix at that point. Likely a piece of trash in there - but let's say it has a manufacturing defect allowing the plunger to rack in the bore? Cleetus will see the low pressure at idle and will check that first - and probably time to replace it at that point.
So why was the bypass plunger 'stuck'? That little devil can ruin an engine. Was it a metal shaving jamming the plunger? How can it be designed so that cannot happen? Plunger with wiper? Redundancy in series?
Sooo…, is it possible that Garret has a lack of axial clearance with the torque converter? I don’t think that the converter axial load / ballooning should exceed the converter axial clearance to cause it to “bottom” and make thrust. Kinda the same as your deal with the wagon, cept it restricted flow through the converter in your case. Time to start paying closer attention to that axial clearance, and maybe start selling shims for between the bell housing and transmission? I wonder how many high hp drag n drive cars that have experienced trans issues had this undiscovered issue at the root of their transmission problems?
For whatever it is worth as I would not be able to justify the level of a SM engine, but videos like this and the dedication to customer satisfaction would sell me a thousand times over. I hope the views help offset, somewhat, any costs involved but I have not watched a video with such anticipation in a long time, and I hope all your viewers appreciate the effort!
@ @deoderantguy1 I absolutely agree with the last comment, Let’s face it Cletus and clowns always manage to either break, ruin or forget something! Oh and by the way I do not have time to open a race track because I am too busy opening my business every morning, Unlike these RUclipsrs who pretend to be mechanics I am actually a mechanic with over 26 years under my belt and the last 10 years as a successful owner! During normal business hours I do basic automotive repair but after hours is when I really have fun! Super chargers, turbos, nitrous, heads and cams, Just google muscle Mustangs and fast Fords magazine The title of the article is the bold and the beautiful, You will see a beautiful woman standing next to a cobra and 2 Saleens! I did all of the work on those vehicles, What qualifications do you have snowflake besides dick riding Cleetus!
First he runs the engine on several dyno runs, clearly shows a ton of metal on the filter... cleans it off, then he runs the engine at low RPM for like 50 seconds and goes "there ya go" after checking the filter. Yikes.
@@CLCIII I guarantee that Steve knows that the issue was caused by Cletus and clowns not flushing the entire system properly! Let’s face it everything that they touch always seems to break get ruined or have some type of problem, I’ve been a mechanic for over 26 years and if I know what the issue is Steve definitely knows!
SMX's are jewels ! This one looks good , runs good , and no debris at all. We saw it live . I wonder about Mullet's on board oiling system (tank , lines,etc.). Thanks for all the honesty Steve, very much appreciated.
@@vehdynam I was thinking the exact same thing, I have seen it a bunch of times! A person removes a transmission from their vehicle and brings it to the shop to be rebuilt, They bring it home and install it and within 10 miles they have managed to blow it! They are always so quick to blame the shop until we remove the pan in front of them and upon seeing metal in the pan we would ask them to tell us everything that they did from start to finish for the install! They always say that they flushed the system but they never say that they replaced the transmission cooler, I don’t care how much you flush the system you are never going to remove all of the metal from a transmission cooler! Steve has a great reputation and Cletus has a reputation for breaking almost everything that they touch!
Man, your engines are works of art. Really nice looking engine inside and out. I've rebuilt quite a few stock engines and I think that's pretty cool but your engines are another level. 👍👏
The root cause of a stuck bypass pretty much confirms what I suspected. There was still some random bits of trash somewhere in the system from the original thrust bearing getting eaten and simply being replaced. One of those bits of trash stuck the bypass and caused the low oil pressure readings Cleetus saw in the last race video. What did make it through the pump showed up in the sight glass. That is to say the filter did exactly what its supposed to do. Filter the oil and protect the engine from trash. The shortcut (which admittedly seemed like a good option at the time) of simply replacing the bearing and cleaning out the engine as best as possible is unfortunately what led to this. There are lots of nooks and crannies on an engine and getting all loose material out of it after a bearing failure without a full tear down is pretty much impossible. Good learning experience for all, Cleetus now knows the bypass may get stuck and can check that next time pressure drops without a proportional amount of glitter in the oil. It wouldn't be shocking to find that some of the oil lines on the car still have a bit of trash caught up on fittings and such on the way to the pump or in the oil tank. the pump draws from.
I was thinking the same thing, Time for Cleatus and Jackstand to FLUSH every hose, fitting, EVERYTHING that is still in Mullet as far as oil while the engine is in transit... even if they have to create a oil pump system and just flow oil thru everything remaining, and run for a few days thru the filter and everything.. see if it fond "material" without an engine there..
@@bummrplayer legit a waste of his time not doing stuff like that anyway, as much as he needs the publicity, Cleet's still a normal customer in a business sense. absolute fuck around imo
Hey steve, are all SMX engines you make built for boost or are some strictly NA? And if some are what kind of numbers do they put down if build specifically to be NA?
Nah, NA would barely be track/ strip ready. BadA on the street maybe but why not boost it for a bit more for sooo much more and easily tuned for any scenario
@@DudeStonean SMX with 12:1 compression and a bigger cam would be horrible to street drive and definitely wouldn't be pump gas friendly lmao but would be a brutal N/A strip combo on methanol.
@@blayne369this is a new oil pump since then, the last one died a horrible death after consuming a stainless steel sieve from one of the scavenge ports in the oil pan
@@blayne369- I disagree. The engine was thoroughly cleaned by SM before it made its way to Cleetus. The more likely explanation is debris/trash in Mullets oil system. Could be as simple as the inside of an oil line fraying.
Steve is so great at what he is doing. He finds it hard to make some people that don't understand engines. Understand how he is teaching. I think he is an amazing engine guy. Would love to own one of his engines someday.
The thing about Steve’s channel that I appreciate the most is the no frills candid footage. No crazy clickbait just pure engine build/tear down information and explaining very clearly the principles of operation. Keep doing what your doing Steve we all appreciate you.
Very impressive how you rolled up your sleeves and did the rebuild yourself to get to the bottom of the issue. You also do not appear to cut corners or have a "that is good enough" attitude you see so often now a days. You stand behind your product and your name, for that you should be applauded.
You didn't say anything you have not explained why your very expensive engines keep blowing up and costing cleetus races and titles, if I were him I would be pretty ticked off at the reliability of SME.
always wanted to see how an engine with an engine-driven centrifugal supercharger blowing into a turbo would perform. im thinking there would be boost from the engine-driven supercharger and as the turbo spooled up it would start sucking air through the supercharger taking the load off the crank?
Just curious, has Garrett looked at the turbos on Mullet as a possible source of metal? Like you mentioned, it has to be something IN the car causing it and I believe he was having an issue with one of the turbos smoking, maybe something in the turbo is eating itself and producing the shavings? Just a thought. Love all the content you've been posting recently!
@@michaelfallen1564 If you think about it Steve has been building engines for his customers that have been in their vehicles for years, Cletus and his shop of clowns always manage to either break, ruin or destroy almost everything that they touch! I’d be willing to bet that Cletus and clowns are definitely the cause of the issue, I have been a mechanic for over 26 years and I have seen it many times where people install a new transmission in their own vehicle and they end up blowing it within 20 miles due to metal being lodged in the transmission cooler! If you blow your trains you can flush your lines but that transmission cooler definitely must be replaces!
A big LOL to Cleetus and company. Your a very kind man to go to the length you have to pls Garratt so tired of his dip shit followers making comments when they don't know a apple from a camshaft. Regardless nothing but love and respect to a man who proves on video nothing wrong with this Engine only thing wrong is when it leaves his shop and the customer Cleetus has been told fix something and they don't seriously only ones having these issues is Cleetus don't get me wrong I like Garratt but the dude has way to many things on his plate really should focus his track and cars what made him who he is today, wasn't airplanes helicopters burn out contests that I frankly find annoying people trying to blow engines to make smoke. Like to have that wasted money to fix my corneas or Build me a Hotrod. Steve earns what he has worked for what he has and I think people who achieve what Steve has through trial error and hard work make the best mechanics and Engineers around they also respect the time effort and money that goes into to the racing program. Cleetus is a decent guy just young and has to be blunt made his fortune off youtube so blowing shit up skipping necessary steps to just make the pass has cost him and ruined a lot of stuff that didn't need ruining. Hope he will listen to Steves advise and work on the mullet to be and show the potential of this Engine Steve has given him. Good Video as always Steve I admire you and your entire staff loved the Comment from Kyle about the big stack I caught that and loved it your son does love yea Steve anyway im ranting sorry . God Bless you and your crew and Family be safe. Ohh hug dewy and keep up the bad ass videos.
silicone and lint in the oil filter? in a "fresh" motor? must be a nice clean shop... These motors are have a hard time staying together in my opinion.. Too many major malfunctions.. Id bet $100 its back at the shop in less than 2 months.
@@bobroberts2371 Still cool too see . It’s literally making 1000hp running the exact optimisation it was built too. Knowing it’s probably 4500-5000hp at peak power is fantastic to know tho.
Is there an LED light on the outside of the cam sync? I noticed something flashing or lighting up around that area. That said, it'd sure be interesting to get some basic specs on the SMX. CI, bore, stroke, intake airflow, valve lift, compression ratio, using BBC 4.84 bore cl... Also, being NA @ ~1000HP, would 28 gpsi (2x sea level) about double the HP, so ~56 gpsi would 4x HP, provided a perfect tune up and decently low in manifold air temps?
After watching Cleet and crew prime the oil system and suck the reservoir dry I had been expecting problems... You are the man Steve, love your videos, I need one of these engines!
Is it possible that the metal is in the oil tank and it's just getting pushed into the filter because of the increased oil pressure of the new engine or something like that?
Absolutely amazing that you were able to share this information with normal people you are without a doubt a absolute maestro in your ability to share with the the normal person
We used to get the relief valve plunger made from nylon so if there were any impurities in the oil they'd sink into the plunger rather than jamming it. It was an industrial application but the pump is the same basic design
Hey Steve Give that clear view filter a lil shot of air before you take it apart and you won’t have the oil mess you have. Those filters are made to look at them without taking them apart, lil shot of air on the air valve and wa-la.
I'm 77 and always built my own engines back in the day. I was always anal about dirt and never even had anyone in the garage when I was putting one together. In this production environment it would be hard to build with total cleanliness and maybe we're picking nits. But in the whole engine the relief valve would be the most susceptible and a hard piece of something and would certainly gall the aluminum bore. I do love that filter!
Respect. Nothing more needs to be said. Engines/mechanical are definitely comparable to female adult human's. Fricken awesome when running right but the time and effort needed making everything perfect, sometimes it all just blows up in your face from no fault of your own then you need to document everything for legal and moral reasons and still you will get grief. 😂😂😍😉😉
Wahoo!!! Thanks for getting her fixed. Can’t wait to put it back together.
Let's gooooooooo!
Bet ur happy
60lbs!!!! Let's go!!
you heard him cleet let her eat!!!!
And blow it up for views...
By far the best channel I have subscribed to.
Steve, don't change anything. You are awesome.
Maybe change your cleaning practices. Why is there so much lint inside that engine? Any why did you blow the screen that just had metal fragments on it toward several other engines that are being assembled? His attitude changed when he pulled the oil screen off and there was a bunch of shit on it. Oh thats just silicone and lint lol
I agree!
I love seeing the owner of the company getting in there and figuring out problems, good job Steve
These are his babies man. He has built what is perfection to him. He maintains that level of care as this is his life. It's a beautiful thing. And educational for some of us lol.
Oh I’m sure it ain’t free
@drivermad1 he has a warranty I am sure, those motors aren't cheap, and he and and Cleetus work together, I'm proud of him standing behind his engine to find out what is wrong
@@BillSkidmoreoutsidehe stands behind them whether you're Cleetus or not my boss has had an SMX for years
Its research and development
When you buy a SMX you don’t just get a Steve Morris engine, you get Steve Morris AND an engine.
Setting the benchmark for customer service 👌
Love these videos Steve, keep up the awesome work!
Lmfao he only showing good customer service cause it's cletus. Imagine if cleet made a video about his bad customer service it would end him.
I doubt Steve would be flying out to dynos or events for other customers, even if it was paid for him. Hes a busy man..
@@BuddyLargent So you just watch a vid here and there-and present your assholism based on them? Didn't happen to catch the little NA LS earlier this week? Nothing to say about Tom Baileys work? Multitudes of others on the channel.
@@Jake_Hamlin Haven't seen him show up at events he wasn't even running in to check on his work, how it's doing? I've only been watching since Cleetus got the SMX, but I've seen him at 2-3 events checking on his engines, 3-4 checking on his builds like AT Racing. You all just selective minded, hateful, or jealous?
@Mr_Jim_Lahey Haven't seen him show up at events he wasn't even running in to check on his work, how it's doing? I've only been watching since Cleetus got the SMX, but I've seen him at 2-3 events checking on his engines, 3-4 checking on his builds like AT Racing. You all just selective minded, hateful, or jealous?
So what I learned is. We need to see a high compression high revving naturally aspirated SMX build.
Would the SMX be a "good" platform for that? When I say good I mean is it already designed or overbuilt in ways that are specifically for boost or do the same principles apply for a big horsepower high compression NA build? I understand that the cam and compression would need to change but ya... Would be an extremely interesting build, but probably "waste" of an SMX..
@@XUncleBossX have to agree it would be a waste.
@@XUncleBossX He could do the same with a lot less investment these these SMX. With the 60 boost he told Cleetus to turn it up to, that's likely 600-700psi in every cylinder-takes a lot of block and head to hold that while fluctuating 8K rpm. Ever seen an exotic Cummings torn down? Turn them up to 150 boost.
The most you'd likely ever build with a NA 14 to 1 engine is 150-160psi in each cylinder
@@mypriusisfaster He could turn an SMX into a NA, and do wonders-but why? Don't need all that block and heads to do NA.
At most a NA would produce 25-35% of the cylinder pressure of what this block and heads are built to withstand. Waste of build and money.
No point of that
This channel doesn’t get enough appreciation for the information given and the quality put into this work this is the best channel ever! Super happy I found it I went from watching people race to watching the heart be built thank you for everything you do Steve!! I’ve learned so much watching you
Guys like Steve are pioneers of the industry. Good enough to bring in cameras and tell you every detail for making power. Let's nickname him the professor.
@@mikewest712 professor horsepower? Or should we knight him and call him Sir Steve professor of horsepower?
A pleasure to watch a master of his craft at work. I always seem to learn something when I watch your videos.
I love that you never try to hide any problems that may occur with your engines. A lot of companies would in fear of backlash. However you sir are a true professional and it’s awesome to watch. Shows that it’s not just about the money, it’s about building the best engine possible.
And it shows Steves high level of understanding and respect for the investigation of why a part has let go! Far too many are quick to blame the builder or part for failure and can't see past their nose to find the real problems.
An ego will never build an engine, no matter how big it is. Real builders break parts every day, cause you can't break records without having a wall of broken first!!
I understand why he’s doing it for cleetus. If he didn’t, the bad publicity would ruin him. But I wonder if he does this for everyone? Standing behind his product like that.
thx and nice vids
@ @Turbogto_guy First of all Steve was successful way before Cletus even came around, His reputation and work is solid around racers! Cleetus could never ruin his reputation! Steve has built engines that have been in customers vehicles for years, Cletus and his shop full of clowns have managed to break almost everything they get their hands on! Not to mention Cletis‘s followers are mostly Young immature children who can’t even afford to live on their own! Also I am willing to bet that the issue with the pump was caused by Cletus and clowns, I am willing to bet that they did not clean and inspect every inch of the oil system! And lastly yes Steve does do this for his other customers!
You gota love this content. Truly enjoy watching Steve troubleshoot.
The best thing Garett has ever done is put the SMX in mullet. I’m so glad you guys are working together, love to watch engine builds, better than anything on tv
*Garrett
@@paulcopeland9035Who cares, we knew what he meant!
@@paulcopeland9035*Whogivesashit
My dad and I are just now getting into drag racing. He’s 48 and I’m 26 so we are new to this. Dad is a wonderful engine builder but man I love how Steve just lets us know everything he’s thinking and breaks it down for us dumber guys lol. Thanks Steve!
This is why you always flush the lines, oil tanks, turbos, and anything else that was added to the system. Everyone always goes for the engine builder first because that’s where they spent the most money but didn’t check the cheaper stuff like the custom built oil tank and stuff. (I’m just speaking in general not about Cletus) but the way it was getting aluminum in the filter in the beginning it was probably the oil tank or a bad milled fitting or something simple.
@@RetirementFund750 I was thinking the exact same thing! Steve has a great reputation and Cletus also has a reputation but unfortunately it is because everyone knows it is only a matter of time before Cletus or his so-called mechanics break or ruin something!
What I like about Steve is that he isn't just a business man. He's a friend, he's an innovator and he's learning every day at how to stay on the cutting edge of engine building. Everything he's doing right now for Cleeter is the same thing he does for all of his faithful cusromers. Bravo sir
Thanks again for spending the time to make these videos, love the engine and drivetrain forensics. When’s Kyle going to run the Mustang?
Soon video update coming
@@stevemorrisracing he sevee wT
@@stevemorrisracing ia
HOW DARE YOU! 😆
I freaking LOVE the Greta decal on the dyno window. She’s just staring at you saying “HOW DARE YOU!” As you rip a massive internal combustion engine.
@@spewpare you a Greta lover! Sticker is fantastic 👌
You deserve pain you're in lol
Dont let the bs from cleetus' community bring you down, we knew exactly how this story was gonna end. someone always gets the short stick every single time he breaks something, regardless of the company. Cleetus tries to calm his viewers down because he knows theyre going to start mess, and he always fails because most of his viewers are either kids who know nothing, or old guys who know everything so you cant blame him for his viewership. His channel is super cool, I really love him as a person, but his content doesnt make anyone any smarter so you get what you get with his fans. This channel is actually educational, please keep it that way and upload as much as you comfortably can.
Steve, don't know if you gonna see this but my theory to what's happening is that the El Camino frame is too flexible for the amount of tension it needs to hold when Mullet launches. So the entire drivetrain needs to take the hit of the launch and that's shoving everything against each other. That's what making the engine gain more play than it should. Whatever it may be, you guys gonna figure out
The easiest way to remove a stuck oil bypass spring is to lightly run a tap into it, and then pull the tap out as a handle. I learned this trick in my air-cooled VW days.
I assume you mean a stuck plunger?
I'm surprised the oil pump relief valve isn't drilled and tapped to allow for easier removal in the future, since it was stuck this time.
@@mikehynes6632 I did mean the plunger.
And there you have it folks we won’t see them valves get lashed til Steve does it again.
The SMX is a work of art Steve, such a beautiful engine. I always learn something from your videos ❤
Steve, I continue to enjoy the partnership and friendship with the Cleetus crew. Great pairing. So glad he sent us over to your channel.
Just out of curiosity, could you throw us a guess what an optimized N/A SMX would make at the crank?
You would need to spin the thing to 30,000+ RPM to get the air speed thru the humungus intake ports. I'm guessing 1500hp would be max without redesigning the heads.
@@cbradley4466I bet with 14:1 and just throwing a 260@.050 cam at it would do 1500 no problem since pretty sure he has done a 672cid smx. Fully optimized I would think 2000 probably doable but with the maintenance nightmare of turning a big cid engine 10k it will not be fun,
If you want N/A, just get a Pat Musi 959 lol
Steve gits it's done👏👏👏👏😱😱😱👊❤️🔥🔌❤️🔥🔌❤️🔥🔌❤️🔥🔌❤️🏁❤️🏁❤️🏁
I remember reading animal farm for the first time as a freshman in high school it was such a good story. I have always loved that quote!!! Thanks for another great video!!!
Yeah Garrett, 60lbs, and let it EAT!
Hey Steve, past video's you breakdown the cost of components. What you did for Cletus would cost How much?
A second mortgage! 😂
How does it feel to have the worlds Cleetus fans going over every square inch of you work to look for faults. By the way. the 17th bolt on the cylinder head was not torqued up to spec......lol. Luv your work. PS: love the sticker on the window. Do you sell them? Its good to be awake.
"It's made to run 70 pounds of boost, I mean 65-70 pounds" n you hear garret do the usual "oh shell take 80" lol still impressed by the smx Steve keep up the stellar work
He hasnt been over 40lb yet, basically half power at 2500hp.. the tyres cannot cope yet with more.
" . . . give it 60 LB boost. . . " OK no problem 155 LB it is !!!!!
@@christianbuczko1481 tires can't cope at all given he's not running big tire lol
@@christianbuczko1481cleter ran 52 pounds at the one race and it did fine then. No problem then..
And traction limited everywhere else
You just eased his mind....Now he is going to hammer on it and blow it for sure. Garrett knows how blow shit up. Let's see how your engine holds up to McFarland shenanigans.
This might be a dumb question, but when putting the oil pump back together after that plunger was bound up what makes you confident it won’t do the same exact thing again? And what do you think caused it to begin with? Love your work and appreciate your candidness.
Probably a tiny speck of trash in the oil. Don’t take much with those tolerances.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Curious about the why.
Could be as simple as an oil hose fraying where the fitting goes, or a hose getting pinched during install, and the inner section damaged enough to let broken strands of braiding get in to the oil.
You could tell something went through that side of the pump. May have been a piece of that valve spring that broke. But this is the 2nd time that Garrett has had oil pump issues with this engine. First time I think there was still pieces of the mass exodus that Steve suffered from with this block.
In reality, it doesn't really matter if it hangs up again. If it does, now everyone knows what caused it and it's a relatively easy fix at that point. Likely a piece of trash in there - but let's say it has a manufacturing defect allowing the plunger to rack in the bore? Cleetus will see the low pressure at idle and will check that first - and probably time to replace it at that point.
So why was the bypass plunger 'stuck'? That little devil can ruin an engine. Was it a metal shaving jamming the plunger? How can it be designed so that cannot happen? Plunger with wiper? Redundancy in series?
looks to me that Garretts dry sump tank and lines need a thorough cleaning
Sooo…, is it possible that Garret has a lack of axial clearance with the torque converter? I don’t think that the converter axial load / ballooning should exceed the converter axial clearance to cause it to “bottom” and make thrust.
Kinda the same as your deal with the wagon, cept it restricted flow through the converter in your case. Time to start paying closer attention to that axial clearance, and maybe start selling shims for between the bell housing and transmission?
I wonder how many high hp drag n drive cars that have experienced trans issues had this undiscovered issue at the root of their transmission problems?
For whatever it is worth as I would not be able to justify the level of a SM engine, but videos like this and the dedication to customer satisfaction would sell me a thousand times over. I hope the views help offset, somewhat, any costs involved but I have not watched a video with such anticipation in a long time, and I hope all your viewers appreciate the effort!
I think Cleetus might need to check his oil lines and cooler for foreign objects
They’re doing maintenance like the 20 something year olds they are
@@regal105 When are you opening your race track buddy?
@ @deoderantguy1 I absolutely agree with the last comment, Let’s face it Cletus and clowns always manage to either break, ruin or forget something! Oh and by the way I do not have time to open a race track because I am too busy opening my business every morning, Unlike these RUclipsrs who pretend to be mechanics I am actually a mechanic with over 26 years under my belt and the last 10 years as a successful owner! During normal business hours I do basic automotive repair but after hours is when I really have fun! Super chargers, turbos, nitrous, heads and cams, Just google muscle Mustangs and fast Fords magazine The title of the article is the bold and the beautiful, You will see a beautiful woman standing next to a cobra and 2 Saleens! I did all of the work on those vehicles, What qualifications do you have snowflake besides dick riding Cleetus!
First he runs the engine on several dyno runs, clearly shows a ton of metal on the filter... cleans it off, then he runs the engine at low RPM for like 50 seconds and goes "there ya go" after checking the filter. Yikes.
The obvious answer is that Steve trusts the oil pump to be back 100%. If not I'm sure he wouldn't have put it back together without replacement.
@@CLCIII I guarantee that Steve knows that the issue was caused by Cletus and clowns not flushing the entire system properly! Let’s face it everything that they touch always seems to break get ruined or have some type of problem, I’ve been a mechanic for over 26 years and if I know what the issue is Steve definitely knows!
Dayum if you double hp at 15psi how much is 75psi holy crap. Is that like 4200hp?
SMX's are jewels ! This one looks good , runs good , and no debris at all. We saw it live . I wonder about Mullet's on board oiling system (tank , lines,etc.). Thanks for all the honesty Steve, very much appreciated.
@@vehdynam I was thinking the exact same thing, I have seen it a bunch of times! A person removes a transmission from their vehicle and brings it to the shop to be rebuilt, They bring it home and install it and within 10 miles they have managed to blow it! They are always so quick to blame the shop until we remove the pan in front of them and upon seeing metal in the pan we would ask them to tell us everything that they did from start to finish for the install! They always say that they flushed the system but they never say that they replaced the transmission cooler, I don’t care how much you flush the system you are never going to remove all of the metal from a transmission cooler! Steve has a great reputation and Cletus has a reputation for breaking almost everything that they touch!
When a Lil boy buys a mans engine... they cry about every Lil thing and don't have the knowledge to do anything but complain
Man, your engines are works of art. Really nice looking engine inside and out. I've rebuilt quite a few stock engines and I think that's pretty cool but your engines are another level. 👍👏
Hilarious how clearly and over the top you explain what is happening and you still will get guys in the comments “explaining” to you.
The root cause of a stuck bypass pretty much confirms what I suspected. There was still some random bits of trash somewhere in the system from the original thrust bearing getting eaten and simply being replaced. One of those bits of trash stuck the bypass and caused the low oil pressure readings Cleetus saw in the last race video. What did make it through the pump showed up in the sight glass. That is to say the filter did exactly what its supposed to do. Filter the oil and protect the engine from trash. The shortcut (which admittedly seemed like a good option at the time) of simply replacing the bearing and cleaning out the engine as best as possible is unfortunately what led to this. There are lots of nooks and crannies on an engine and getting all loose material out of it after a bearing failure without a full tear down is pretty much impossible. Good learning experience for all, Cleetus now knows the bypass may get stuck and can check that next time pressure drops without a proportional amount of glitter in the oil. It wouldn't be shocking to find that some of the oil lines on the car still have a bit of trash caught up on fittings and such on the way to the pump or in the oil tank. the pump draws from.
I was thinking the same thing, Time for Cleatus and Jackstand to FLUSH every hose, fitting, EVERYTHING that is still in Mullet as far as oil while the engine is in transit... even if they have to create a oil pump system and just flow oil thru everything remaining, and run for a few days thru the filter and everything.. see if it fond "material" without an engine there..
@@bummrplayer legit a waste of his time not doing stuff like that anyway, as much as he needs the publicity, Cleet's still a normal customer in a business sense. absolute fuck around imo
Is it when the exhaust valve starts to open you would do the intake, and when the intake valve starts to close you do the exhaust?? I can't remember.
Hey steve, are all SMX engines you make built for boost or are some strictly NA? And if some are what kind of numbers do they put down if build specifically to be NA?
I believe the engine is designed around boost id guess like a solid 1300 NA but it just honestly isn't made for tthat
Like I said....the guy driving the car is the problem..not tha mota
..I would like to see one optimized for N/A... I love me some mountain motor type shenanigans.
Nah, NA would barely be track/ strip ready. BadA on the street maybe but why not boost it for a bit more for sooo much more and easily tuned for any scenario
@@DudeStonewhy would it not be track ready? There are plenty of n/a racing classes.
I'd like to see what one of these engines optimized for n/a operation. Pro stock only runs 500ci & they're running 6.50s.
@@DudeStonean SMX with 12:1 compression and a bigger cam would be horrible to street drive and definitely wouldn't be pump gas friendly lmao but would be a brutal N/A strip combo on methanol.
That 'You may learn something' intro needs to go. Just hits wrong. Love the channel!
Do we know what caused it to stick, and what will prevent it from sticking again?
Most likely remnants from when the rods exploded when Steve had it in the wagon
@@blayne369this is a new oil pump since then, the last one died a horrible death after consuming a stainless steel sieve from one of the scavenge ports in the oil pan
@@blayne369- I disagree. The engine was thoroughly cleaned by SM before it made its way to Cleetus. The more likely explanation is debris/trash in Mullets oil system. Could be as simple as the inside of an oil line fraying.
That was my exact thoughts as well.
Most times easier to put new parts in then trying to clean coolers and some other parts
Could cleetus have crap in his oil lines with all that debre they been finding? Just saw spot clean with ur lines
Steve is so great at what he is doing. He finds it hard to make some people that don't understand engines. Understand how he is teaching. I think he is an amazing engine guy. Would love to own one of his engines someday.
Love this channel, send it out to all your friends, it should be heaps bigger.
Those headers are bigger than exhaust pipes on most street vehicles 👍🏿
Are we not concerned as to WHY that piston got stuck on the relief mechanism?
steve is pumpimg out these vids.....hell yeah brother
When the shop owner is the one buying the brake cleaner.....😂
The meta commentary of Greta etched on the glass where engines casually make over 1000 hp is 👌👌👌
I noticed that also, let her witness all that power and fuel being consumed.
I thought that was Pete Harrel lol .
Is there a conflict of interest between Cleetus and Steve now!?!?
Looks like your arm got self clearanced somewhere there, ouch!
Just a flesh wound. Gotta love those header burns.
Maybe it’s the start of another gross tattoo
The thing about Steve’s channel that I appreciate the most is the no frills candid footage. No crazy clickbait just pure engine build/tear down information and explaining very clearly the principles of operation. Keep doing what your doing Steve we all appreciate you.
Very impressive how you rolled up your sleeves and did the rebuild yourself to get to the bottom of the issue. You also do not appear to cut corners or have a "that is good enough" attitude you see so often now a days. You stand behind your product and your name, for that you should be applauded.
You didn't say anything you have not explained why your very expensive engines keep blowing up and costing cleetus races and titles, if I were him I would be pretty ticked off at the reliability of SME.
What are you talking about?
always wanted to see how an engine with an engine-driven centrifugal supercharger blowing into a turbo would perform. im thinking there would be boost from the engine-driven supercharger and as the turbo spooled up it would start sucking air through the supercharger taking the load off the crank?
Sorry Steve but you don't look as good doing that as EJ did.
Just curious, has Garrett looked at the turbos on Mullet as a possible source of metal? Like you mentioned, it has to be something IN the car causing it and I believe he was having an issue with one of the turbos smoking, maybe something in the turbo is eating itself and producing the shavings? Just a thought.
Love all the content you've been posting recently!
@@michaelfallen1564 If you think about it Steve has been building engines for his customers that have been in their vehicles for years, Cletus and his shop of clowns always manage to either break, ruin or destroy almost everything that they touch! I’d be willing to bet that Cletus and clowns are definitely the cause of the issue, I have been a mechanic for over 26 years and I have seen it many times where people install a new transmission in their own vehicle and they end up blowing it within 20 miles due to metal being lodged in the transmission cooler! If you blow your trains you can flush your lines but that transmission cooler definitely must be replaces!
34:57 My favorite part 😂
those engines are a thing of beauty
You are right some sweet engines. Steve's top notch. Some of the best videos.
A big LOL to Cleetus and company. Your a very kind man to go to the length you have to pls Garratt so tired of his dip shit followers making comments when they don't know a apple from a camshaft. Regardless nothing but love and respect to a man who proves on video nothing wrong with this Engine only thing wrong is when it leaves his shop and the customer Cleetus has been told fix something and they don't seriously only ones having these issues is Cleetus don't get me wrong I like Garratt but the dude has way to many things on his plate really should focus his track and cars what made him who he is today, wasn't airplanes helicopters burn out contests that I frankly find annoying people trying to blow engines to make smoke. Like to have that wasted money to fix my corneas or Build me a Hotrod. Steve earns what he has worked for what he has and I think people who achieve what Steve has through trial error and hard work make the best mechanics and Engineers around they also respect the time effort and money that goes into to the racing program. Cleetus is a decent guy just young and has to be blunt made his fortune off youtube so blowing shit up skipping necessary steps to just make the pass has cost him and ruined a lot of stuff that didn't need ruining. Hope he will listen to Steves advise and work on the mullet to be and show the potential of this Engine Steve has given him. Good Video as always Steve I admire you and your entire staff loved the Comment from Kyle about the big stack I caught that and loved it your son does love yea Steve anyway im ranting sorry . God Bless you and your crew and Family be safe. Ohh hug dewy and keep up the bad ass videos.
Thanks
It’s always a breath of fresh air watching a true craftsman at work all business no nonsense, I enjoy your videos Steve happy Friday.
there was metal in the filter both times? Definitely looks like some shiny flakes.
Is that GRETA T on the Window?
Okay I love the how dare you sticker on the dyno room window lol
The editing, music on NEXT LEVEL that motor is SAF this is machining porn😅 watching a master at work 🙌
all that money i would just replace the pump
silicone and lint in the oil filter? in a "fresh" motor? must be a nice clean shop... These motors are have a hard time staying together in my opinion.. Too many major malfunctions.. Id bet $100 its back at the shop in less than 2 months.
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I cant get over how beautiful that engine is. What a feat of engineering, you do some amazing work Steve!
When you get around to laptop upgrades look for this chip AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX processor
Love the glass etching on your dyno window. 😁 Get’em Greta…..
Put 60 pounds of boost in it and let it eat, what Cleetus & Pete hear is, put 120 pounds of boost in it and let it eat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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Love watching your channel, Steve. One hell Of the engine Builder In my opinion 1 you are 1 of the best engine builders in Is the world!!!
Thanks you Dewey for keeping an eye on Steve and family
1000hp for a non N/A configuration is so cool to see
At 572 CID, that would equal a 611 HP 350 . In the last vid a pretty mild 350 made about 589 HP
@@bobroberts2371 Still cool too see . It’s literally making 1000hp running the exact optimisation it was built too. Knowing it’s probably 4500-5000hp at peak power is fantastic to know tho.
@@bobroberts2371 keep in mind low compression
@@LVUFC True, in NA form there probably isn't much room left to make more power. Boost is what makes the motor look bigger.
Is there an LED light on the outside of the cam sync? I noticed something flashing or lighting up around that area.
That said, it'd sure be interesting to get some basic specs on the SMX. CI, bore, stroke, intake airflow, valve lift, compression ratio, using BBC 4.84 bore cl...
Also, being NA @ ~1000HP, would 28 gpsi (2x sea level) about double the HP, so ~56 gpsi would 4x HP, provided a perfect tune up and decently low in manifold air temps?
I love how Steve communinicates with Cleeter - he better have his post notifications on!
After watching Cleet and crew prime the oil system and suck the reservoir dry I had been expecting problems... You are the man Steve, love your videos, I need one of these engines!
id love to see a smx in mc,flurry one day would be insane
Is it possible that the metal is in the oil tank and it's just getting pushed into the filter because of the increased oil pressure of the new engine or something like that?
Absolutely amazing that you were able to share this information with normal people you are without a doubt a absolute maestro in your ability to share with the the normal
person
We used to get the relief valve plunger made from nylon so if there were any impurities in the oil they'd sink into the plunger rather than jamming it. It was an industrial application but the pump is the same basic design
I love seeing this level of engine building in detail, incredible!
Hey Steve
Give that clear view filter a lil shot of air before you take it apart and you won’t have the oil mess you have.
Those filters are made to look at them without taking them apart, lil shot of air on the air valve and wa-la.
TLC AND ALTRUISM TWO OF THE BEST THINGS EVER
I have an idea of what's going on with mullet. But I don't want to deal with a bunch of bs from tolls on here.
And it has nothing to do with the engine.
That how dare you sticker had me cracked up.
Any chance the gnarly tire shake situation they had could have cause something to move somehow it shouldn’t have and caused metal?
WHY DID IT STICK? No need to figure that out.. just put the failed part back in....STEVE IS SUCH .....smh what ever
I'm 77 and always built my own engines back in the day. I was always anal about dirt and never even had anyone in the garage when I was putting one together. In this production environment it would be hard to build with total cleanliness and maybe we're picking nits. But in the whole engine the relief valve would be the most susceptible and a hard piece of something and would certainly gall the aluminum bore. I do love that filter!
That Greta sticker on the window of the dyno room is hilarious.
Respect. Nothing more needs to be said. Engines/mechanical are definitely comparable to female adult human's. Fricken awesome when running right but the time and effort needed making everything perfect, sometimes it all just blows up in your face from no fault of your own then you need to document everything for legal and moral reasons and still you will get grief. 😂😂😍😉😉