The then Health Minister, Edwina Currie, stated in a press release issued at the time of Savile's appointment in his Broadmoor position, and I quote: "He is an amazing man and has my full confidence." Needless to say, Currie, as with all of those associated with Savile, later made attempts to distance herself from the scandal that broke after his death. A nurse who worked at Broadmoor during Savile's time there commented that one of the inmates told him that Savile really should have been an inmate at the institution, instead of more or less being in charge of it. Truer words were never spoken.
Thank you so much for elaborating on Savile’s damage in Broadmoor. I knew he was bad. I’m horrified by the new realization of patients’ vulnerabilities and the raw fact that no one might believe them if they spoke out. How tragic!!!
Back in the day my sister Tracey worked in a chinese takeaway in Crowthorne. She would stand behind a high counter and would love to chat to customers, especially the regulars. There was one man who came in regularly and would always order the same dish. An absolutely lovely, delightful, charming man! "A lovelier man you could not wish to meet" was how Tracey described this man. Yep, you guessed! It was Jimmy Saville!! Thank god for the high counter and staff working out back!! 😕
@@wendyhannan2454 That's the thing with psychopaths. They can turn the charm on and off like a tap and he needed to keep up his facade of being a 'good guy' with the public. It was most likely all fake.....
Savile will have had access to extremely strong psychotropic drugs from 1968. I was drug-raped by Savile in Edinburgh in 1973. I always wondered why I couldn't speak + only ever remembered sections of the night + the amount of time I remembered never changed.
He was allowed free reign at Leeds General Infirmary and it is well known about his necrophilia in the morgue and was reported but nothing was done. In his later years he was always seen with his PA when he visited LGI and I wondered if she was there to keep an eye on him.
Good God. I didn't know about the necrophilia but I always thought he had a high cringe factor. You get a kind of visceral response to these people. A sense that all is not well.
That's a staggering amount. Shows us the sad price of not helping children and young people and their families when the children are younger and not paying attention to mental and emotional well-being
Exactly. Yet people who are struggling with depression and anxiety receive very little meaningful, effective support, and or resources. They’re simply given medication by the GP. I personally see it as a waste of public money “trying to rehabilitate” Broadmoor inmates/patients.
Broadmoor should be closed. And if needed, dangerous individuals transferred to prison. Its rubbish. Psychiatrists, psychologists and nurses justifying their own existence. Broadmoor represents a era when mentally unwell dangerous people were warehoused and treated like animals. Its an expensive failure. Unfortunately, some people don't respond to treatment and remain unwell. And violent. Prison is a more appropriate environment. Where medication can be given if needed. Numerous times Broadmoor has been accused of malpractice. This is just another example. He was hanging about this place for decades. People heard the rumours about him and done nothing. Because the staff at Broadmoor in between abusing patients were also fiddling their expenses and doctoring their time sheets. And Saville new about this so he had information about them. Which if reported to their superiors could have seen them lose their jobs. That's why they turned a blind eye to his activities. This institution is outdated and a law onto itself. Dangerous criminals have been sent there over the years. Peter Sutcliffe for example. Because it was easier for the authorities to have him there. How can someone be suddenly cured of psychosis? Sutcliffe was found to be sane at his trial. He faked mental illness to be transferred to Broadmoor. He boosted about this to other prison inmates. In order to be housed in more comfortable surroundings. Then decades later he was surprisingly found to no longer be psychotic. He was never psychotic in the first place. That's why a lot of violent, mentally unwell people should be in prison.
So, how long does it take to see some changes in patients at broodmoor? Once they're in broodmoor is the care of that individual now the hospital's responsibility? What does a patient require to be considered to be released which is into a medium security facility, right? Or is it like, once you're in broodmoor you're there for life?
How come charles' associations with Jimmy Saville are "fine" but Andrew's associations with Jeffrey Epstein are "not fine" ????? Why did Charles get away with this????
Have you ever dealt with anyone under the SIM protocol (the police mental health one) and what's your opinion on SIM protocol? I hate it for a number of reasons but I'd love to hear a psychs opinion on SIM police mental health protocol
Most people think they know things from tbe outside, you know very little unless you have lived it, even then its just your perception of something. Good video, I enjoy your contribution to mentle health awareness cheers
As I child, I found him very creepy....that vest, those shorts, the hair, his voice, his mannerisms, he lived with his mum......sorry but...and, unfortunately in his that era, crude humour, was acceptable - so he probably got away with a lot because of the culture at the time.
I agree, I was a child and really disliked his tv program, I always felt uneasy, I hated it when he would put his arm around kids and pull them too him, at that time I was too young to understand my feelings, especially as everyone thought he was so great
Sadly that was JS specialty , the extra vulnerable as with all celebrity predators. Technically JS could have been one of the patients there? So glad he doesn’t exist anymore. Celebrating ethical open communicators in men like Dr Das in our world. This could be our focus 🧘♀️- let’s be better humans for the vulnerable. Speak up, never stop looking out for animals & vulnerable humans. Xo
Infuriating that staff allowed it. I hope they were prosecuted for any crimes he committed and SACKED. As a hcp, I'm repulsed by the laxness of this institution. Why would anyone trust Broodmore again?
I kind of guessed that the cost for a year would be roughly that amount, taking in all considerations of keeping a human being. Food, amenities, clothing, meds payrolls etc etc etc.
Greetings to THE OMINOUS SOHOMINOUS (🤭.) I can’t believe what that creature got away with!!! He’s incredibly EVIL, VILE and should’ve been kept in a dark dank dungeon cell away from ANY other people in seclusion and castrated, plus he should of been charged for his own pocket for being kept there!!! (Great Stegosaurus in the background! My grandsons have taught me there names as well as my daughter when she was young.) Much love to you The OMINOUS SOHOMINOUS, the teacher of the fam 🤍💙💜 Thank you. (AK-Alaska, 49-the 49th state of the USA, snow cat-like a Lynx-only Alaskan cat, just sayin in case you didn’t know 🤣😆😂, just kidding
Dr. Grande has his doctorate in counseling/social work. I really don't think he has any credibility in forensic psychology. He can be fun to listen to though. He has a great sarcastic sense of humor.
Your presentation is extremely interesting, but I have to say that you continually swallow your words at the ends of your sentences, and thus I am really missing quite a lot of what you are saying. Nonetheless, I am glad I have had the opportunity to learn about this very amazing case and the way it has been treated -- unfortunately, way after it would have been helpful for some of his victims.
World without morals and passion ( Jimmy savile was part of a much bigger problem ). ?? Great shows and insight). Around 300 thousand a year can be alot more if patient needs a lot more help time security.
Can you answer me a question, I ain't got to your big price reveal, of how many pounds it takes for a year. My question is this, break that down for me, show me the books, I'm guessing it's a big number, 300k, but probably more, 1.3 million. But where does that money go? You ain't serving them caviar, so break down, where it goes, to the dime
Was the security level as good as it was today way back in the 60's and 70's at Broodmoor during the time Savile was there? I feel like modern technology and new laws governing these hospitals are very different today, vs 40-60 years ago. 🫤🧐
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The then Health Minister, Edwina Currie, stated in a press release issued at the time of Savile's appointment in his Broadmoor position, and I quote: "He is an amazing man and has my full confidence." Needless to say, Currie, as with all of those associated with Savile, later made attempts to distance herself from the scandal that broke after his death. A nurse who worked at Broadmoor during Savile's time there commented that one of the inmates told him that Savile really should have been an inmate at the institution, instead of more or less being in charge of it. Truer words were never spoken.
Broadmoor sounds like Arkham Asylum, and Savile like the Joker...
Thank you so much for elaborating on Savile’s damage in Broadmoor. I knew he was bad. I’m horrified by the new realization of patients’ vulnerabilities and the raw fact that no one might believe them if they spoke out. How tragic!!!
Back in the day my sister Tracey worked in a chinese takeaway in Crowthorne. She would stand behind a high counter and would love to chat to customers, especially the regulars. There was one man who came in regularly and would always order the same dish. An absolutely lovely, delightful, charming man! "A lovelier man you could not wish to meet" was how Tracey described this man. Yep, you guessed! It was Jimmy Saville!! Thank god for the high counter and staff working out back!! 😕
What did he order lol
Kung po kids
Hard to imagine, him being a lovely man. Glad this lady wasn’t his victim.
@@wendyhannan2454 That's the thing with psychopaths. They can turn the charm on and off like a tap and he needed to keep up his facade of being a 'good guy' with the public. It was most likely all fake.....
@@willcchiwill8836 cream of sum young-gie
Savile will have had access to extremely strong psychotropic drugs from 1968. I was drug-raped by Savile in Edinburgh in 1973. I always wondered why I couldn't speak + only ever remembered sections of the night + the amount of time I remembered never changed.
Im so so sorry you went through that,wish I could turn back time for you...❤🩹 many hugs from Australia
Give it a rest lol.
@@francishunt562 What a disgusting comment, troll. Pound sand.
I have a heavy heart listening to your story, so sad that you went through this. Sending love ❤️
So sorry to hear that
He was allowed free reign at Leeds General Infirmary and it is well known about his necrophilia in the morgue and was reported but nothing was done. In his later years he was always seen with his PA when he visited LGI and I wondered if she was there to keep an eye on him.
He assaulted more people in the LGI than he did in the BBC
PA? Public agent?
Personal Assistant
Good God. I didn't know about the necrophilia but I always thought he had a high cringe factor. You get a kind of visceral response to these people. A sense that all is not well.
Thank you for information Saville was a very dangerous man, I bet there was talk of Saville round the hospital xxxx
That's a staggering amount. Shows us the sad price of not helping children and young people and their families when the children are younger and not paying attention to mental and emotional well-being
I found your channel through Mr. Black and I am so glad I did.
Holy hell you are incredibly articulate and engaging. Honestly, you'd do amazing at documentaries.
How many patients from places like Broadmoor are successfully rehabilitated into society?
Very very few.
@@francishunt562 I suspected as much. Therefore.......?
Exactly. Yet people who are struggling with depression and anxiety receive very little meaningful, effective support, and or resources. They’re simply given medication by the GP.
I personally see it as a waste of public money “trying to rehabilitate” Broadmoor inmates/patients.
Keep it coming I’m loving this channel. Thanks Dr x
The whole Jimmy Saville thing was the very height of starfuckery.
Helps when you are best friends with Prince Charles. You can bet Charlie likes them prepubescent too...or dead like Jimmy S.
Broadmoor should be closed. And if needed, dangerous individuals transferred to prison. Its rubbish. Psychiatrists, psychologists and nurses justifying their own existence. Broadmoor represents a era when mentally unwell dangerous people were warehoused and treated like animals. Its an expensive failure. Unfortunately, some people don't respond to treatment and remain unwell. And violent. Prison is a more appropriate environment. Where medication can be given if needed. Numerous times Broadmoor has been accused of malpractice. This is just another example. He was hanging about this place for decades. People heard the rumours about him and done nothing. Because the staff at Broadmoor in between abusing patients were also fiddling their expenses and doctoring their time sheets. And Saville new about this so he had information about them. Which if reported to their superiors could have seen them lose their jobs. That's why they turned a blind eye to his activities. This institution is outdated and a law onto itself. Dangerous criminals have been sent there over the years. Peter Sutcliffe for example. Because it was easier for the authorities to have him there. How can someone be suddenly cured of psychosis? Sutcliffe was found to be sane at his trial. He faked mental illness to be transferred to Broadmoor. He boosted about this to other prison inmates. In order to be housed in more comfortable surroundings. Then decades later he was surprisingly found to no longer be psychotic. He was never psychotic in the first place. That's why a lot of violent, mentally unwell people should be in prison.
I cannot understand why Savile put his life at risk by having unsupervised access to the patients at Broadmoor.
So, how long does it take to see some changes in patients at broodmoor? Once they're in broodmoor is the care of that individual now the hospital's responsibility? What does a patient require to be considered to be released which is into a medium security facility, right? Or is it like, once you're in broodmoor you're there for life?
Oh I commented about this on your video about Savile. LOVE that u made a video about it ✌🏻❤🏴
you inspired the idea!
How come charles' associations with Jimmy Saville are "fine" but Andrew's associations with Jeffrey Epstein are "not fine" ????? Why did Charles get away with this????
Do you read these? if so, can you do a video on Ian Brady, if you haven't done one already. Did you or anyone you know had any dealing with him?
He was NEVER in broadmoor he was in Ashworth
Great. Thank you for sharing this video Doc. Very interesting and informative. Bless you and your supporters.
Mr. Black sent me. Looking forward to your content
Ashes to ashes...
Dust to dust...
If Windsor Palace won't take me....
Broadmoor must!
I found the saville documentary on Netflix because of you.
Very interesting, I’m fascinated by broadmoor stories
Have you ever dealt with anyone under the SIM protocol (the police mental health one) and what's your opinion on SIM protocol? I hate it for a number of reasons but I'd love to hear a psychs opinion on SIM police mental health protocol
Most people think they know things from tbe outside, you know very little unless you have lived it, even then its just your perception of something. Good video, I enjoy your contribution to mentle health awareness cheers
Is not discussing individual patients at broadmoor a breach of patient confidentiality
This was very interesting, thank you
Mr. Black sent me. Happy to be here!
As I child, I found him very creepy....that vest, those shorts, the hair, his voice, his mannerisms, he lived with his mum......sorry but...and, unfortunately in his that era, crude humour, was acceptable - so he probably got away with a lot because of the culture at the time.
I agree, I was a child and really disliked his tv program, I always felt uneasy, I hated it when he would put his arm around kids and pull them too him, at that time I was too young to understand my feelings, especially as everyone thought he was so great
Isn’t Broadmoor prison also used to detain subversive elements if Britain ever went to war?
In my experience french kissing does not normally lead to orgasm, not directly anyway.
That's a conversation we definitely shouldn't have!
In a freak it sure might cause orgasm! There are really sick sex disorders
So many germs in the mouth, best keep them to yourself.
@@APsychForSoreMinds😂
''Incidentally that's where I was born, Berkshire that is, NOT Broadmoor'' LOL
Sadly that was JS specialty , the extra vulnerable as with all celebrity predators. Technically JS could have been one of the patients there? So glad he doesn’t exist anymore. Celebrating ethical open communicators in men like Dr Das in our world. This could be our focus 🧘♀️- let’s be better humans for the vulnerable. Speak up, never stop looking out for animals & vulnerable humans. Xo
I got the cost right! Unreal 😁 Keep up the good work!
Thanks for your knowledge . Love your channel 10:37
I absolutely cannot believe this happened at Broadmoor !!! Unbelievable !!!
WOW! The $ for care is mind blowing but what’s the alternative 🧐
Huge respects Dr Das ⚠️1️⃣❤🌟
Infuriating that staff allowed it. I hope they were prosecuted for any crimes he committed and SACKED.
As a hcp, I'm repulsed by the laxness of this institution.
Why would anyone trust Broodmore again?
I kind of guessed that the cost for a year would be roughly that amount, taking in all considerations of keeping a human being. Food, amenities, clothing, meds payrolls etc etc etc.
I know I'm not some specialist on hundreds of thousands, but trust me that the word is "antiquated" and not "antiquitated".
are you quate sure?
I am surified my good friend
In this context, the correct word is antiquitated.
Please can you look at the murder of Virginia Sivil by Richard Gray? The failures of the mental health team were awful and justice hasn't been found.
Proper Care is extremely expensive, which is why it's so rare
It’s a shame they give “proper” care to undeserving people.
What is the quality of life for people in long term seclusion?
It's sounds harsh or someone unwell
I would say at least 250'000 a year. Per patient.
I think that Jimmy Savile is very important for understanding the history of your discipline.
Like you & Emma Kenny as you both knock it on the nail 👍✌️
Back in the day our ward stank of paraldahyde..the amount of glass syringes which got broken in attempts to restrain
I would love a Joe Rogan/Dr Das feature length special on British cases, including JS, and other historical cases.
Joe Rogan? The American lunatic who was spreading misinformation about Covid? I doubt any credible doctors would want to be associated with him.
#ToeRogaine is a right wing bigot
Greetings to THE OMINOUS SOHOMINOUS (🤭.) I can’t believe what that creature got away with!!! He’s incredibly EVIL, VILE and should’ve been kept in a dark dank dungeon cell away from ANY other people in seclusion and castrated, plus he should of been charged for his own pocket for being kept there!!! (Great Stegosaurus in the background! My grandsons have taught me there names as well as my daughter when she was young.) Much love to you The OMINOUS SOHOMINOUS, the teacher of the fam 🤍💙💜 Thank you. (AK-Alaska, 49-the 49th state of the USA, snow cat-like a Lynx-only Alaskan cat, just sayin in case you didn’t know 🤣😆😂, just kidding
Cost to HMP/NHS Would be £320000 per year
lots of people could of stopped this... but they didnt
What Dr Grande said about this guy was a bit different than yours but is “spot on” even if you criticize his credentials.
Dr. Grande has his doctorate in counseling/social work. I really don't think he has any credibility in forensic psychology. He can be fun to listen to though. He has a great sarcastic sense of humor.
He belonged in Broadmoor all right, but not that way.
I got that so wrong. Ghasted my flabber
Your presentation is extremely interesting, but I have to say that you continually swallow your words at the ends of your sentences, and thus I am really missing quite a lot of what you are saying. Nonetheless, I am glad I have had the opportunity to learn about this very amazing case and the way it has been treated -- unfortunately, way after it would have been helpful for some of his victims.
I guessed 50 000. I was so off, holy shit
This is a guess, the overheads are pretty high, so am going to say 5 to 6 thousand pounds sterling per annum.
Back then we didn't know? That's what you said. Everybody knew. But hey, control the narrative, mustn't forget the hymn sheet
👍👌 Love your channel. DEADBUG sent me.
Thanks for coming
250 thousand a year
World without morals and passion ( Jimmy savile was part of a much bigger problem ). ?? Great shows and insight). Around 300 thousand a year can be alot more if patient needs a lot more help time security.
Dude looks very chomo...
Guessing, 1.5 million??
Oh damn, way off!! The real amount sounds like a bargain now!
8 to 10.000 A day I think
😢
Ooops, Freudian slip there doc, Broadmoor is not a hospital
I'd guess 40,000
Two thousand AND fourteen. You're British, not American.
600k
Can you answer me a question, I ain't got to your big price reveal, of how many pounds it takes for a year. My question is this, break that down for me, show me the books, I'm guessing it's a big number, 300k, but probably more, 1.3 million. But where does that money go? You ain't serving them caviar, so break down, where it goes, to the dime
Was the security level as good as it was today way back in the 60's and 70's at Broodmoor during the time Savile was there? I feel like modern technology and new laws governing these hospitals are very different today, vs 40-60 years ago. 🫤🧐
think a lot of these places now are required by law to have live cctv in operation
Yes things were different 50 years ago. Nowadays the LGI has security cameras all over and a team of people employed to sit and watch it constantly
I said £180,000! So...close? 😅
Also, loving the drops of the word "dope". You are def a Millennial Mental Health Clinician.
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