Sheffield city centre heart of the city 2/Retail sector was it worth £470 million?
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- A fraction of the money could have been spent improving Sheffield city centre without destroying the small businesses that no longer exist there. Now they have made Sheffield totally inaccessible to cars and business vehicles.
They destroyed the High st area building a poor supertram, then closed down The Moor for 10 years before getting the investment money to complete. Each redevelopment destroys business.
If only the council focused on the work they should be doing. How about maintenance of their council housing stock.
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What a transformation!! Sheffield City centre is starting to take shape, first time in years I'm starting to feel proud of the City. Sheffield was nice years ago but over the years it started to look tired looking and was in desperate need of moving forward with the times, well done Sheffield for putting us back on the map.
Its Orwellian and dystopian with no soul. Sheffield died in 94 and will never recover while socialists are in control.
These empty units you’re passing will never ever get filled trust me. They’ll eventually get wrapped so they don’t look as bad as they do.
If it is public money that has funded it then the public have a right to know the cost.
Excellent tour as always :).
Thanks Steve. How is the Forge Island development, would make a good video for you.
@@timawells Forge Island is coming along. The hotel is now open, and the whole place looks quite impressive. How long it will last though is anyone's guess.
You are right about the wapentake being there. However when it was the wapentake henrys wasnt there. Henrys was the barleycorn pub which changed to the cambridge pub. Wapentake then changed to the casbah bar and henrys arrived.
I used to go in Henrys in the early 90s and I believe the Wapentake changed names in about 2000 to the Casbah.
@@timawellsyes. Def Leppard came back to their old haunt in the Seventies to do an acoustic set in the Wap.
@@misscoutts6193 Was you there Miss Coutts? 😂
@timawells I recall seeing Pete Willis at the bar.
Hi Tim great content when I was a kid town was packed too the rafters all week without fail now it's like a ghost town so sad 😢😢
Thanks Andy. I have a great one of Attercliffe and the new development coming. Best Tim
When I was a nipper, these empty streets were heaving with people.
This was Sunday 10am, but not much better Saturday, Heaving Haymarket to the bottom of The Moor
Those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end. 😢
@@misscoutts6193 I have been watching an old series of the Likely lads.
Good weather for Sheffield by the sea, peace gardens were lovely back in the day, with all the grass and flower beds. Remember taking the kids to see father Christmas there at Christmas it always looked great. Looking so different Sheffield is,we havent been for a long time, i only go when i go to see a show at Lyceum. Thanks for your vlog and update 😊
The issue with it is they allowed winos to use it and then stop maintaining the Peace gardens Hazel. Thanks Tim
Nothing there for me. I’d rather eat and drink local to where I live. Once you’ve eaten what do you do then. Tim, let us know what the air is like. Is it amazing to experience?
Can I send you some air in a bottle Gaz, I think its the fountain of youth.
@@timawells will it cost me £10😂
So the guests manage to find their way to the hotel and the driver dumps the luggage at the rear door.
Now to get the car to Charles Street Cheese Grater car park. Hey! This is priceless!
Barkers Pool to Leopold Street. Campo Lane to Rockingham Street. Turn right onto West Street then left onto Eldon Street.
Turn right onto Devonshire Street then left onto Fitzwilliam Street.
Turn right onto Moore Street then left onto St Mary's Gate.
Turn left onto Eyre Street and continue to Arundel Gate and turn left onto Charles Street.
For a council flying the CAZ flag that's a long, long way and a lot of fuel and emissions!!
Irony being there's a huge car park over the road at Cole Brothers.😂
It pure comedy make a great Benny Hill sketch. The Coles car park may never be open to the public.
I've stayed at the Rad Blu and parked at the Cheesegrater. Had to lug our luggage across the peace gardens. There's a discount at the car park for guests.
@@djhvideo Welcome to Sheffield. You can drive up to the back door and dump your cases, but its a nightmare for anyone to drive from there to the Cheesegrater. There is a massive car park for the old John Lewis building right by the hotel, that the council hotles and its closes.
Imagine staying in that hotel and seeing that and hearing that noise from your window
Very tacky
I am told I am being negative.
In coronation street hilda ogden told stan ogden she had muriel wallpaper lol. Its called a mural and not muriel as the name.
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Isn't it actually criminal for a council to steal public money to build a hotel for a private corporation? I am genuinely confused by this. It cannot possibly be legal. When us people pay council tax we assume it goes to the fire service, police, schools etc not to a hotel chain😮 This is most surely theft/corruption?
Karen I am going to go back to the Leader and CEO. I am going to say its not right to keep the business deal private when its public money. The have done the same with the Coles building, they won't say how much the Urban splash lease of 999 years is.
@@timawells Council needs to be investigated by police. Someone needs to be held accountable for this theft/corruption. I am sure this is criminal.
Councils are only Municipal Corporations giving the impression of authority. They are only a business. Since they control people then they are fundamentally evil.
@@KarenG.-qs7wc Trouble is Karen I think the police are corrupted in the same way.
You are dealing with U.K. PLC it isn’t public never was. Just men and women forcing you to pay them. This is nothing… ask them why we pay taxes at all? It doesn’t even service the interest on the debt never mind making an attempt to clear it off. You have the answers just you don’t know what to do with them. So you don’t accept them and still live in denial wishing life was different.
So what's the gaumont going to be ?
Empty grade A offices and flats ?
I haven't a clue what they old Gaumont building will become. But you are probably right.
What are Grade "B" flats like?
They’ve done great job of it and long may it continue, it would look pretty damn tragic if it was the same as it was in the 80s 😂😂😂
It only needed TLC not destroying. You are a blue pill person I can see,
Do they still have the Lord Mayor's parade through the town centre? Bit awkward with all the roads shut. So called progress. Not!
I haven't heard of the Lord Mayors parade any more. But town was end to end with people.
That stopped many years ago along with the Star Walk.
@@misscoutts6193 No full marathon either.
A fantastic development! Great to see some much needed investment. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Cole Bothers buildings. Thanks for sharing
It is fantastic. A full revision and watering down of the seven stone project which had John Lewis at it's heart.
I'm personally glad to see the back of John Lewis, Debenhams, British home stores, Woolworths, Wilkinsons, etc and am quite thrilled to step over a spice addict while I frequent one of the 30 Greg's shops 🤣
The Norman barons are clearly back.
They never left Leon.
@@timawells Yes I do wonder. Feels like they are building their new castles and compiling a digital Domesday Book.
@@leoncsorba9085 Absolutely while the peasants cheer them on Leon.
@@timawells Agreed we see this at football games. A fan has a 'sudden' heart issue and the rest of the fans clap the medics, bonkers.
@@leoncsorba9085 I was around at my parents one evening when they started banging pans.
The grand hotel was on leopald street where Bessemer bar is now Tim.
The front was Gary, but the main building were right at side of the city hall. The big white building. I can't remember it, but it was there when I was alive. www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/142-the-grand-hotel/
@@misscoutts6193 I don't get this. They could have kept the old frontage and knocked down the hotel on the Barkers Pool side.
@@timawellsthe frontage was fantastic like an old sailing ship with the figurehead on the front. Inside, the walls were covered in massive fishing nets.
Wouldn’t trust this Council to put my wheelie bin out!
Do they collect it?
No retail
No reason to visit unless you want food
You have the Yards store but very over priced labels. No local Sheffield businesses, they have been erased for expensive global empires.
Food outlets everywhere. More on the way. Spilt drinks and takeaway cartons discarded; everywhere people stuffing their faces. 😮
@@misscoutts6193 They call this classy nowadays.
How much do those big golourd tubs cost in the thumbnail?
Why would you like to fleece the council with some more?
Sportsman is the white building with chubbys burgers on the side. All one building now it seems Tim.
So I was looking in the right direction Gary www.thestar.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/retro/sheffield-retro-back-in-time-through-history-of-cambridge-street-set-for-huge-new-food-hall-with-rooftop-bars-4205652
You're getting your information and 'costing' from the Sheffield Star. That hasn't been accurate since when you liked Sheffield last.. Which from watching your videos seems like decades.
Information and costings are mainly obtained from freedom of information requests and Sheffield city centre hasn't been 'likeable' for decades!
The costs for the the hotel came from a FOI request I made to Sheffield city council. Sheffield started to die in 94 when they closed the hole in the road down rather than maintain properly and wasted the money on a pointless tram system that benefits a 1/10th of the people the original tram system provided for. The £470 million comes from here heartofsheffield.co.uk/ As for the £33 million do you think this is inaccurate? n the last six months, it has been confirmed that the cost of the project has more than doubled to £33.6million - which the a council spokesperson previously said was due to inflation. I think you need to think before commenting.
I have just back my figures up Richard, I just wish people would think before commenting.
@@AlexMitchell-sj4sb There has been a complaint raised with the council about non disclosure due to commercial reasons Alex.
Never be like it was
I agree. Saturday it was dead. Some say this was progress.
You spend all that money on the hotel, with paved footpaths before and after the hotel, and slap some cheap tarmac all along the front of your expensive hotel, classy 🤨
I am sure that is temporary Peter.
@@timawells I do hope you are right
@@peterwalker417 But everything the council is involved in is a failure.
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Is that all you are doing on these videos is moaning 🤣🤦♂️
You are the one moaning. You go into an ironmongers and moan you can't buy fruit and vegetables. This is for born and bred Sheffielders and those against the woke agendas.
@@timawells im born and bread in Sheffield but you got to move on with the times why you think places like leeds Manchester Liverpool are doing better than us cause they are moving with the times
They reason Manchester, Leeds and Liverpool are doing better than us, is they refused to adopt the clean air zone along with Nottingham. I have recently been to Manchester, Leeds and Nottingham, the only place I want to go back to Nottingham is for its beautiful buildings. I am way ahead of the times I was working in computers between 1986 to 2000. We are moving back into the stone ages, while the happy clappers cheer. Its like a sequel of 1984.
@@timawells well thats what you get with a socialist government wich i hope fails
@@garethbroughton4530the only major city with no traffic or public transport running through the centre. Those cities you mention still have a preponderance of their old world architecture left. More of ours was bulldozed after the war than lost in the Blitz.