At least there are struts to hold the hood and not a 1980 eco car prop bar. Its remarkable that with all the technological advancements on even the most basic car that manufactures are still using prop bars you have to manually put in place to hold up the hood.
The Diesel & PHEV have been made available for VW Australia, according to a VW source in Germany. It's apparently up to VW Australia on whether they take them. A number of dealers locally are trying to get both in .
@therightcar I'm surprised that a diesel possibly won't return despite VW in Germany apparently still having it as an available option for VW Australia if they want it. .Some Rural Dealers I've spoken to locally are still keen to get an oiler as they still have some buyers that would prefer that engine . But it's understandable that VW here would likely require 15-20% of sales to be diesel to make it viable
Nice that you got to head to Germany to drive this, youre moving on up. On the car itself, the interior is a step up, the exterior is still boring, the boot seems really nice, but there is no way VW is charging less than 55k for the model you drove especially with those engine choices. Finally those rims look real familiar, know ive seen them before but just cant place it. In this segment my money is still going to the Haval H6, I still like to see where my money is going.
They shrunk the Touareg but if they get the price right with the right equipment, these will sell, otherwise if they go for the German quality bullshit, it will take a pounding. At least, they got the power figures spot on. Like you mentioned, the 360 degree camera should be part of the ANCAP especially with the example of the SKODA Superb which is too long in wagon form for not to have this feature even on the higher grade.
Hey Matt, Were you able to turn off lane-keeping / attention-monitoring / stop-start from the steering wheel (like on the new Skodas) or do you have to do it through the center screen menus? I notice the 'smart dial' only switched between Volume and Drive Mode, whereas in earlier videos it also changed the lighting "mood"? Also did they tell you the unladen weight? I believe the current Tiguan R-Line is around 1700kg and I've seen "1753kg" for the new one somewhere. Another Aussie review showed "1541kg", but that's around what a T-Roc R-Line weighs IIRC.
Thanks Matt for the great teaser review. This is a question from a Kodiaq Sportline driver who needs to changeover by mid 2025. Which in your opinion is the better driver’s car that puts a smile on your face- the new Kodiaq or the new Tiguan?
Elegance with 162kw has been a great choice in the last two models. Will be disappointing if the 192kw motor is not available. I have read that Elegance will only have 150kw. May need to look elsewhere.
Don't need a 15" screen (sorry Tesla), but I would prefer getting rid of the silver on the steering wheel and needless to say, its time for the piano black go away forever. Cup holders should always have covers so they don't become junk bins collecting trash and lint and dust. I wish they offered a power adjustable steering wheel (which you would have gotten on a car at this cost just a decade ago). I'd tick that option if it were available. In any event the Japanese models are getting long in the tooth with those antiquated center mounted shifters. Their only claim to fame is their dependability.
...because? The 2025 Karoq is still the 2017 Karoq underneath, with no signs of a new generation coming. If you wanted a Skoda SUV (for the better-thought-out interiors for instance) on the same new Evo platform as the 2025 Tiguan, you're looking at the 2025 Kodiaq. Only that's nearly 4.8m long.
@@therightcar I've always loved understated affordable Euro styling and drove a Renault 16TS for many years in the 1970's. I'm an owner of a couple of VW's. At the moment we have a Passat Alltrack and a Multivan. The idea of jumping the shark is when the initial design premise is stretched; when graphed on an upward curve of excellence, to a point where the trajectory of the curve falls away radically. When drawn this looks like a sharks fin. BTW I really like your show.
The term "Jumping the shark" comes from a late-season episode of Happy Days where Fonzie literally jumps a shark. Meaning that's the distinct turning point when the show ran its original course and became something else (bad). Similar to "lost the plot" and "went off the rails". It makes sense when talking about a long running TV show, but not really apt for the Tiguan's regression in exterior design strength.
@@damienmb88 I agree that the term had it's origin with a citcom but it does pop up in many fields now and then. I suppose as younger designers eclipse the aesthetic of what was formerly considered the core of design language for a particular make of car, then old boomers like me get picky.
No, they've increased it. You seem to be confusing the R-Line (formerly 162kW, now 195) with the R (235kW). To be fair it is confusingly similar branding, albeit one should also do their homework before spending tens of thousands of dollars on a car.
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At least there are struts to hold the hood and not a 1980 eco car prop bar. Its remarkable that with all the technological advancements on even the most basic car that manufactures are still using prop bars you have to manually put in place to hold up the hood.
great review. look forward to Tiguan R review
The Diesel & PHEV have been made available for VW Australia, according to a VW source in Germany. It's apparently up to VW Australia on whether they take them. A number of
dealers locally are trying to get both in .
I doubt a diesel will be part of the mix. No chance, is what I’ve heard from HQ.
PHEV is more of a wait and see.
@therightcar I'm surprised that a diesel possibly won't return despite VW in Germany apparently still having it as an available option for VW Australia if they want it. .Some Rural Dealers I've spoken to locally are still keen to get an oiler as they still have some buyers that would prefer that engine . But it's understandable that VW here would likely require 15-20% of sales to be diesel to make it viable
Nice that you got to head to Germany to drive this, youre moving on up.
On the car itself, the interior is a step up, the exterior is still boring, the boot seems really nice, but there is no way VW is charging less than 55k for the model you drove especially with those engine choices. Finally those rims look real familiar, know ive seen them before but just cant place it.
In this segment my money is still going to the Haval H6, I still like to see where my money is going.
They shrunk the Touareg but if they get the price right with the right equipment, these will sell, otherwise if they go for the German quality bullshit, it will take a pounding. At least, they got the power figures spot on. Like you mentioned, the 360 degree camera should be part of the ANCAP especially with the example of the SKODA Superb which is too long in wagon form for not to have this feature even on the higher grade.
Hey Matt,
Were you able to turn off lane-keeping / attention-monitoring / stop-start from the steering wheel (like on the new Skodas) or do you have to do it through the center screen menus?
I notice the 'smart dial' only switched between Volume and Drive Mode, whereas in earlier videos it also changed the lighting "mood"?
Also did they tell you the unladen weight? I believe the current Tiguan R-Line is around 1700kg and I've seen "1753kg" for the new one somewhere. Another Aussie review showed "1541kg", but that's around what a T-Roc R-Line weighs IIRC.
Thanks Matt for the great teaser review. This is a question from a Kodiaq Sportline driver who needs to changeover by mid 2025. Which in your opinion is the better driver’s car that puts a smile on your face- the new Kodiaq or the new Tiguan?
I’d say the Tiguan had the edge for driver dynamics. But have you considered a Cupra Formentor or Ateca?
@@therightcar Thanks Matt for your quick reply. I’ll check out the Cupras. Thank you so much!
No hybrid model coming to Australia?
Such a stupid decision by VW Australia
Not yet. PHEV may come late 2025. Depends on demand / incentive situation.
Elegance with 162kw has been a great choice in the last two models. Will be disappointing if the 192kw motor is not available. I have read that Elegance will only have 150kw. May need to look elsewhere.
Having still got my 2018 Touareg, i really like VW vehicles, but servicing is steep. I don't think I'll buy another VW.
Sorry to hear that. But yep, there’s a price to pay for Euro goodness.
Don't need a 15" screen (sorry Tesla), but I would prefer getting rid of the silver on the steering wheel and needless to say, its time for the piano black go away forever. Cup holders should always have covers so they don't become junk bins collecting trash and lint and dust.
I wish they offered a power adjustable steering wheel (which you would have gotten on a car at this cost just a decade ago). I'd tick that option if it were available.
In any event the Japanese models are getting long in the tooth with those antiquated center mounted shifters. Their only claim to fame is their dependability.
Like it
Great review but too much "hey"
Hey!
Oh.
I get it.
Scotty Kilmer said never buy a VW, I'm with Scotty. 😂 👋🤚
Okay, buy boring cars because they are theoretically more reliable.
Skoda Karoq 2025 would be a better choice.
...because?
The 2025 Karoq is still the 2017 Karoq underneath, with no signs of a new generation coming.
If you wanted a Skoda SUV (for the better-thought-out interiors for instance) on the same new Evo platform as the 2025 Tiguan, you're looking at the 2025 Kodiaq. Only that's nearly 4.8m long.
VW has jumped the shark with this styling. The black plastic grille is completely gauche.
I’ve never understood jump the shark. 🦈
@@therightcar I've always loved understated affordable Euro styling and drove a Renault 16TS for many years in the 1970's. I'm an owner of a couple of VW's. At the moment we have a Passat Alltrack and a Multivan. The idea of jumping the shark is when the initial design premise is stretched; when graphed on an upward curve of excellence, to a point where the trajectory of the curve falls away radically. When drawn this looks like a sharks fin. BTW I really like your show.
The term "Jumping the shark" comes from a late-season episode of Happy Days where Fonzie literally jumps a shark.
Meaning that's the distinct turning point when the show ran its original course and became something else (bad). Similar to "lost the plot" and "went off the rails".
It makes sense when talking about a long running TV show, but not really apt for the Tiguan's regression in exterior design strength.
@@damienmb88 I agree that the term had it's origin with a citcom but it does pop up in many fields now and then. I suppose as younger designers eclipse the aesthetic of what was formerly considered the core of design language for a particular make of car, then old boomers like me get picky.
So they’ve decreased the power on the new R-Line spec?? Yeah that makes sense… Why wouldn’t they keep the 235kw motor. I’ll be keeping my Old R-Line.
No, they've increased it. You seem to be confusing the R-Line (formerly 162kW, now 195) with the R (235kW).
To be fair it is confusingly similar branding, albeit one should also do their homework before spending tens of thousands of dollars on a car.
Great car until the warranty runs out...
Same refrain as always!
@@therightcar yep 👍
There s a possibility Even before it runs out unless you got time to wait for the repair
@@therightcar its because of too much plastics has been used on parts that shouldnt be. You know this as car journalist.
@@TheGillederais Are you telling us that all those plastics got into Tony Bennett's brain and turned him into a human anti-VW bot?