I appreciate this take. Yes it can, yes there are some applications, but overall it wasn't common because it wasn't as useful or easy to use. Great as always!
That's actually in the books. I've only read the second one, but it has a surprisingly detailed explanation of how he gets it out of the scabbard by pulling on the strap to make it flip up a little. It honestly reads like someone spoke to the author about the impracticality of a back scabbard between the first and second book, and he added that to try and justify it.
I do remember reading a piece that said that larger blades such as greatswords were often transported on the back since they physically cannot fit on one's hip; they'd drag on the ground. However, it was only transporting on the back, not wearing it as such into battle. I think that a blade on the back fits great in two scenarios: 1. Soldiers carrying their greatswords to war and unsheathing it before battle, carrying it on their shoulder to where the fighting is.(ala Guts from Berserk) 2. A scout who is more occupied with being maneuverable and nimble than combat ready, trying to stay out of fights instead. Having a blade on your back(if secured tightly, that is) allows for more sporadic movement than one on the hip. It sways a lot less that way.
How about in scifi setting like in Metal Gear Rising where Raiden's scabbard can move to the back and side depending on the situation? Back for carry and ninja running, and side for iai quickdraw. And probably add a quicklaunch feature that launches the sword up if unsheathed from the back so the user(presumably with enhanced reflex) just catch the sword in the air instead of pulling it.
A little unrelated in my opinion, but I always liked the design of Raiden's scabbard from Metal Gear Rising. It's mounted on an adjustable mechanical arm, meaning it can move and adjust to allow easy drawing and sheathing of the blade, and we see it clearly in the cutscenes it happens. Honestly, if we were ever to properly mount swords on our backs, it would be like that and I hate how people just completely ignore stuff like that. Not every use of back scabbards has to apply to medieval fantasy settings, there are some of us who prefer to write sci-fi.
I'm pretty sure I ran across a story and or was told about one where the main character carried a two handed sword on his back in a loose sling and that was not strapped down. Come battle he tossed it over his shoulder, Drew The Sword in his right hand, threw the sheath off to the side with his left hand, switchef to a two-handed grip and then went to town.
I like how in Harrow the Ninth (The Locked Tomb), Harrow carried Gideon’s sword on her back because she never used it and was just holding onto it until she could give it back to her. It also was a regenerating bone scabbard she could dissolve at will, so she didn’t need to actually draw it from her back anyway.
I think the reason everyone mentions Shad’s scabbard is because it perfectly demonstrates what we are picturing when it comes to drawing and sheathing.
I’m mad that I didn’t realize you don’t need a complex scabbard to carry a sword on your back. However, I still think having a folding sword (one that operates just like an assisted opening pocket knife but bigger, and also having an actual grip with a D shaped guard at the bottom giving you the most reach) with a tight fitting sheath that’s tied to your leg like you would a Bowie knife would be the most convenient and easy to carry and use compared to a back scabbard or a normal scabbard. All you’d have to do is reach down, pull out the 1-2 foot long sword similar to how you would pull out a pistol, then quickly reach over with your offhand as you raise the sword, then press the tab on the back of the blade to quickly flip it out and you’ve got a 4 foot long sword that’s super easy to carry and use
There's a neat little detail with the scabbard for Raiden's sword in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. The scabbard actually moves down so that the sword can be inserted into it without just clipping through it. When I noticed that I was like, "Wow, that's a really cool detail"
I think our history's lack of a back-scabbard was because of the lack of need. In a fantasy world however where there are monsters and magic creates the higher need for mobility. If you're hunting monsters or jumping around like in anime then a weapon that's dangling from your hip would only get in the way. And by extension female armor would have the same argument. If a women could use magic or were more used in combat then it'd be likely that they'd be brought to battle and eventually ornate-armor for women would be created (thus the infamous boob-armor would be created).
This is always one of those things that always LOOK awesome and CAN be practical, but so rarely that its more just for show like ya said. Broke it down nice and easy like always Marcus, great video. 🧡 P.S. I've seen the katana and the longsword compared a lot, maybe you could compare and/or talk about japanese double bladed swords. Seems a better matchup anyway.
There was a Sword & Sorcery series I read in the 80s or early 90s. I do not remember the name or the author, but it was an Isekai story, before that was an established genre. The main guy, a sword-based fighter type (leaning towards European swords, not Asian) has a relatively long sword. The sheath was plain leather, and existed to keep the swordsman from cutting himself on the blade. He literally just carried it in his hand, and when he drew it, he’d just toss the scabbard aside. If he lived, he’d pick the scabbard up. If he didn’t live… wasn’t really a concern.) And there was a strap, so he could hold the strap when flinging it over the shoulder. To draw from the shoulder, he’d have to unfling it from the shoulder, then draw it.
What if the scabbard was on your back and downward facing? So you would draw down and forward? Obviously there would have to be a clasp to prevent gravity but it seems workable
Holy cow, it never occurred to me to keep it on the right shoulder and I couldn’t figure out what everyone’s problem was when the main thing I was worried about was cutting my head off with a heavier, sharp sword due to lack of coordination.
When i think of a functional back sheath, i usually think Guts from Berserk or Clive from FF16 where it’s essentially vertical with only enough straps to keep it in place. Clive uses 2, one near the top to stop it from falling down further, and the second lower to keep it in place
I love how after pointing out the Nate V solution and talking about it, you default to showing the "wrong way" through the rest of the video. Oh muscle memory you cruel mistress
I think at least one reason people picture a back scabbard may have to do with media showing it pretty frequently. It looks cooler seeing a guy with a sword in his back and drawing it for maybe a downward swing or something but it wouldn't be practical. Games I think often put it on the back so it doesn't look as weird when inevitably it clips into objects.
If it was a curved sword like a khopesh or something with even more of a curve to it, idk what that would be, could it work because you would essentially pull up and out from your body, almost wrapping the sword around you as you pull, making it easier to draw? Idk if that would work or if I explained that well but yeah
Ok I have a weird question...in the movie army of darkness a knight calls for his sword before a fight but he doesn't carry his own sword he yells sword boy and a guy comes up holding his sheathed sword he gets down on his knees and holds up the sword for the knight to draw his weapon...was this actually a thing? Were there knights or samurai who didn't carry their own weapons and had servants at the ready who carried all their weapons?
i personaly like the skabwrt from shad becous. it isnt realy so complex but the way he pulls it it is way more smoth. to pull out becous its more stabel and dosnt nead a wierd Angle on a Lose scabbert to pull out and to put it in to it at the point im wrighting it i didnt watsh the Video. as soon as im home i will correct my comant but the way you showed it it seams like it. im german and in a full bus i cant wright to good right now
People wanted to be true because it looks cool, the reality unless it was a short sword for hunting/ horse riding, moving around towns, the back is a stupid place to carry
So much ado about nothing. My girlfriend is five foot one and fences with a long sword. Carrying it on her back is the only option besides dragging is or in her hands.
I have had this idea, right? So what if lightsabers worked the same way as laser weapons? High-powered lasers work by heating up the target to a gas and thereby causing an explosion. What if this also applied to lightsabers, so when you hit something it would come back in the opposite direction? Keep in mind lightsabers only weight is the handle.
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I love that the auto captions change "backscabbard" to "backstabber" lol
I decided against changing them because it's funny
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I appreciate this take. Yes it can, yes there are some applications, but overall it wasn't common because it wasn't as useful or easy to use. Great as always!
I always liked Geralt flipping his scabbard up slightly to give himself more of an angle to draw from in The Witcher 3
That's actually in the books. I've only read the second one, but it has a surprisingly detailed explanation of how he gets it out of the scabbard by pulling on the strap to make it flip up a little. It honestly reads like someone spoke to the author about the impracticality of a back scabbard between the first and second book, and he added that to try and justify it.
I do remember reading a piece that said that larger blades such as greatswords were often transported on the back since they physically cannot fit on one's hip; they'd drag on the ground. However, it was only transporting on the back, not wearing it as such into battle.
I think that a blade on the back fits great in two scenarios:
1. Soldiers carrying their greatswords to war and unsheathing it before battle, carrying it on their shoulder to where the fighting is.(ala Guts from Berserk)
2. A scout who is more occupied with being maneuverable and nimble than combat ready, trying to stay out of fights instead. Having a blade on your back(if secured tightly, that is) allows for more sporadic movement than one on the hip. It sways a lot less that way.
How about in scifi setting like in Metal Gear Rising where Raiden's scabbard can move to the back and side depending on the situation?
Back for carry and ninja running, and side for iai quickdraw.
And probably add a quicklaunch feature that launches the sword up if unsheathed from the back so the user(presumably with enhanced reflex) just catch the sword in the air instead of pulling it.
^This, I've always thought about it like this, in more of a Scifi setting then a fantasy one
Quicklaunch that Jetstream Sam uses is pretty cool ngl
A little unrelated in my opinion, but I always liked the design of Raiden's scabbard from Metal Gear Rising. It's mounted on an adjustable mechanical arm, meaning it can move and adjust to allow easy drawing and sheathing of the blade, and we see it clearly in the cutscenes it happens. Honestly, if we were ever to properly mount swords on our backs, it would be like that and I hate how people just completely ignore stuff like that. Not every use of back scabbards has to apply to medieval fantasy settings, there are some of us who prefer to write sci-fi.
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I wish I could like this more than once
I'm pretty sure I ran across a story and or was told about one where the main character carried a two handed sword on his back in a loose sling and that was not strapped down. Come battle he tossed it over his shoulder, Drew The Sword in his right hand, threw the sheath off to the side with his left hand, switchef to a two-handed grip and then went to town.
I like how in Harrow the Ninth (The Locked Tomb), Harrow carried Gideon’s sword on her back because she never used it and was just holding onto it until she could give it back to her. It also was a regenerating bone scabbard she could dissolve at will, so she didn’t need to actually draw it from her back anyway.
I can't read this comment because I haven't started Harrow yet.
I'm here for a completely unrelated reason to swords. I have an umbrella and just wanna know which is the more convenient/cool way to carry it.
I think the reason everyone mentions Shad’s scabbard is because it perfectly demonstrates what we are picturing when it comes to drawing and sheathing.
I’m mad that I didn’t realize you don’t need a complex scabbard to carry a sword on your back. However, I still think having a folding sword (one that operates just like an assisted opening pocket knife but bigger, and also having an actual grip with a D shaped guard at the bottom giving you the most reach) with a tight fitting sheath that’s tied to your leg like you would a Bowie knife would be the most convenient and easy to carry and use compared to a back scabbard or a normal scabbard. All you’d have to do is reach down, pull out the 1-2 foot long sword similar to how you would pull out a pistol, then quickly reach over with your offhand as you raise the sword, then press the tab on the back of the blade to quickly flip it out and you’ve got a 4 foot long sword that’s super easy to carry and use
There's a neat little detail with the scabbard for Raiden's sword in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. The scabbard actually moves down so that the sword can be inserted into it without just clipping through it. When I noticed that I was like, "Wow, that's a really cool detail"
I think our history's lack of a back-scabbard was because of the lack of need. In a fantasy world however where there are monsters and magic creates the higher need for mobility. If you're hunting monsters or jumping around like in anime then a weapon that's dangling from your hip would only get in the way.
And by extension female armor would have the same argument. If a women could use magic or were more used in combat then it'd be likely that they'd be brought to battle and eventually ornate-armor for women would be created (thus the infamous boob-armor would be created).
Take the scabbard off your back, Pulls the sword, then puts the scabbard back.
Problem solved plus points for style
One solution is to have a back scabbard you can tilt forward.
This is always one of those things that always LOOK awesome and CAN be practical, but so rarely that its more just for show like ya said. Broke it down nice and easy like always Marcus, great video. 🧡
P.S. I've seen the katana and the longsword compared a lot, maybe you could compare and/or talk about japanese double bladed swords. Seems a better matchup anyway.
There was a Sword & Sorcery series I read in the 80s or early 90s. I do not remember the name or the author, but it was an Isekai story, before that was an established genre. The main guy, a sword-based fighter type (leaning towards European swords, not Asian) has a relatively long sword. The sheath was plain leather, and existed to keep the swordsman from cutting himself on the blade. He literally just carried it in his hand, and when he drew it, he’d just toss the scabbard aside. If he lived, he’d pick the scabbard up. If he didn’t live… wasn’t really a concern.)
And there was a strap, so he could hold the strap when flinging it over the shoulder. To draw from the shoulder, he’d have to unfling it from the shoulder, then draw it.
What if the scabbard was on your back and downward facing? So you would draw down and forward? Obviously there would have to be a clasp to prevent gravity but it seems workable
Holy cow, it never occurred to me to keep it on the right shoulder and I couldn’t figure out what everyone’s problem was when the main thing I was worried about was cutting my head off with a heavier, sharp sword due to lack of coordination.
The katana overwrites the left side pull rule, its too powerful.
When i think of a functional back sheath, i usually think Guts from Berserk or Clive from FF16 where it’s essentially vertical with only enough straps to keep it in place. Clive uses 2, one near the top to stop it from falling down further, and the second lower to keep it in place
Thanks I learned something here like pulling it I'm here because I'm trying to find how to make you sword attach in your back
Never heard of nate V until now, I'll have to go give some of his stuff a watch as well now it seems 😄
I love how after pointing out the Nate V solution and talking about it, you default to showing the "wrong way" through the rest of the video. Oh muscle memory you cruel mistress
I think at least one reason people picture a back scabbard may have to do with media showing it pretty frequently. It looks cooler seeing a guy with a sword in his back and drawing it for maybe a downward swing or something but it wouldn't be practical. Games I think often put it on the back so it doesn't look as weird when inevitably it clips into objects.
God I love ur videos you always perfectly answer all my random sword questions cuz I’m too stupid to know the answer
If I helps, I only know the answer after years of asking the same questions
If it was a curved sword like a khopesh or something with even more of a curve to it, idk what that would be, could it work because you would essentially pull up and out from your body, almost wrapping the sword around you as you pull, making it easier to draw? Idk if that would work or if I explained that well but yeah
I can imagine pulling it would work if try. But sheating it seems the worst
i can barely reach my left shoulder with my right arm
My logic is short sword on the back and longsword on the hip.
Back scabbards always look better though, I mean, imagine Link wearing the master sword on his hip, it wouldn’t look as cool would it?
you can solve that using the cloud and zack tecniche that consist in use a suspenders with a magnet in it and not using a shealth at all lol!
Are you going to react to elden ring weapons?
but if you have scabbard on a belt and you wear it like a bag, you can remove your sword with a scabbard and then draw the sword
I wear mine horizontally, i can unsheathe my 43 inch blade greatsword easily ☝️
I got the notification for this video, and I read swords as swear words. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME!?
Do you think it could give you some sort of advantage?
Dafuq did I just watch?! But kudos for finding your market
Thanks.
Ok I have a weird question...in the movie army of darkness a knight calls for his sword before a fight but he doesn't carry his own sword he yells sword boy and a guy comes up holding his sheathed sword he gets down on his knees and holds up the sword for the knight to draw his weapon...was this actually a thing? Were there knights or samurai who didn't carry their own weapons and had servants at the ready who carried all their weapons?
maybe in a future video could you take a look at xenoblade chronicles weapons and face mechon?
i personaly like the skabwrt from shad becous. it isnt realy so complex but the way he pulls it it is way more smoth. to pull out becous its more stabel and dosnt nead a wierd Angle on a Lose scabbert to pull out and to put it in to it
at the point im wrighting it i didnt watsh the Video. as soon as im home i will correct my comant but the way you showed it it seams like it.
im german and in a full bus i cant wright to good right now
Is that another lightsaber? I see ur not using ur kyberlight model
SabersPro sent me one, too. I like this one more in some ways, and less in others.
@@MarcusVance hahaha i see the collection is growing. Have a good one and love ur work
People wanted to be true because it looks cool, the reality unless it was a short sword for hunting/ horse riding, moving around towns, the back is a stupid place to carry
It is named the Shabbard.
Also Shad is cooler.
It’s probably because shadiversity is way more popular
Man being in the minority of "swordsmen" really shows when talking about where to draw from
Love the video!! I always enjoy your videos, though I doubt you’ll see this.
Thanks!
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No you wrong
How about the Indian style
So much ado about nothing. My girlfriend is five foot one and fences with a long sword. Carrying it on her back is the only option besides dragging is or in her hands.
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Back again lol
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wait are you left handed
Inverted video
@@MarcusVance ooooooohhhhhhh I'm left handed so it had me for a second
@@MarcusVance I've seen a lot of videos that are inverted, and I'm always wondering why that is? Like, is there an advantage to it?
NO , not authentic , if you want to look like a LARRPer , OK
I have had this idea, right?
So what if lightsabers worked the same way as laser weapons? High-powered lasers work by heating up the target to a gas and thereby causing an explosion. What if this also applied to lightsabers, so when you hit something it would come back in the opposite direction? Keep in mind lightsabers only weight is the handle.
This is actually false. The lightsaber has weight in the blade as well. This is mentioned multiple times in the shows.
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@@CutTheVioletWire i have been lied to
This is why geralt spins as he draws to cause a defense position as he draws learn to fight like a Witcher get gud.