The 200th episode actually feels like a metaphor for the current AVGN, where James gets more and more frustrated because he's trying to work with people who can't do anything right and he doesn't have the time to do it right by himself, even the smaller Nerd room looks like walls closing in on him.
16:15 Howling at this impression! the cadence and emphasis of the Nerd is spot on. _You know what I don't GIIIIIVE a fuck about? Content. Producing it_ 😂
These guys don't look at the camera. That is fucking brilliant. Why other pods feel the need to stare a hole through the fucking camera and through my soul for 2 hours is beyond me.
I agree with this too and it's one of the many many many many (inset one hundred instances of the word 'many' ) many reasons FRANKIE AND EJ ARE MY FAVORITE CREATORS!!!
Alright, this one had me genuinely laughing out loud a few times. I feel exactly like you guys do about James and listening to you talk about it is ridiculously entertaining, you hit all the beats.
@@DiosBabilonia I bet she does take care of the kids, all the time. I bet It's James who is always telling her "I'm busy writing Nerd Episodes, I'm busy filming stuff, etc" while he sits in his cool rock n roll room practicing easy guitar riffs and reading about Atlantis. And she actually watches the channel, to keep an eye on James and knows he's full of shit, that's why she got the 5$ cake, cause she knows James isn't worth the TIME it would take to make one from scratch.
The sports segment was definitely reminscent of older episodes. You can tell he actually had something to say about his experience with sports games as a kid, as opposed to just playing some game and saying it sucks.
Your impression is spot-on, right down to the drawn out talk-shouting and all the movement being in the jaw and lower arms. James posted a blooper clip of him trying to film a shot of himself tied to a chair and he was getting genuinely frustrated and it was funnier than his acted anger in recent episodes. James happens to have a good natural voice and accent to be funny when on a rant or reacting in real time, examples that come to mind being Dragon's Lair, Silver Surfer, Batman and Dick Tracy.
@@dannysummers4591 difference is that in the past James would have something to say because he actually played the games, so the jokes were just sprinkled in and made it funny. Now, Bimmy doesn't play the games because no time, and has nothing substantial to say about them, so the jokes became a total crutch. He over-acts the hell out of these new episodes. His funniest moments in old episodes were just calm, offhand remarks about inconvenient or annoying aspects of the games. Now, everything has to be an epic 40 second rant with yelling or a really unfunny line that he also yells. His delivery is so bad now, his acting got worse
@@Gatorade69 That onion scene was really bizarre. James hire Slobwave to help him out so why can't they help him to hold the onion or tie him up for that scene? And if he's afraid that those slobs may spread Covid to him then why don't he ask his wife or his daughter help him out instead? He kept saying he has no time yet he has all the help in the world readily accessible to him and he does not even use them at all.
It's striking the staunch difference between the awkward cinemassacre podcast and what you guys do on red cow. You two clearly have good commentary and chemistry, keep it up!
That's because these guys are friends, not hired unlike Screenwave, I wish James would get his true friends on because it was cool when he has a childhood friend on to see James actually having unscripted emotion
@@Tomversal he's pushed all his friends he had away. It's all hired help. However, it's still not nearly as bad as Channel Awesome. Still that's a low bar
@@JaredPresleyExperience honestly nostalgia critic is way better than AVGN these days. Doug still has passion for what he does and he's toned down the skits in recent videos. He's still a little cringe but at least he's being himself in the process, which I can appreciate more than having ghost writers
@@JaredPresleyExperience Yeah you're right sadly, I wish the channel could be how it was but we'll never get that again, and true the Channel Awesome situation was really scummy
I felt bad for him when you showed the picture of that cake, it looks like a 10$ grocery store cake you get for a co-workers birthday, not a 15 year culmination celebrating 200 episodes. One thing I dislike is being called an asshole for mildly criticizing someone's artistic work, I think there's a contract you enter into when creating something artistic and sharing it with the public.
Well, most of them are assholes. If you aren't, then don't take offense. By pretending his asshole comment had no merit you are whitewashing hundreds of thousands (at this point) completely unhinged lunatics shitting on him and his family. At least I will say the guys in this video are okay and only about 4 out of 10 comments on this video are unhinged.
It's real simple...Mike's input made for a much more charming and entertaining AVGN than what we are getting with the AVGN that is coming from James and SW. Folks can like or dislike Mike, and it's easy to see why he can be an acquired taste...but it's easy to see that he was the genius that made Cinemassacre, and especially the AVGN, what it became. Ever since he has been gone, the content has been on a steady downhill slide.
@@walker1984I am not someone who uses Reddit or anything, but I have watched all AVGN since he released the NES TMNT review, and I don’t remember any complaints, like ever, when it was that lineup.
Ok here’s my thing about James Rolfe… He started out just being a huge admirer like most of us of movies and had that same dream of being a filmmaker in his late teens early 20’s like most of use that actually watch these kind of videos. But in school he realized that his talent was perhaps limited… Ok so he shoots a few videos of what would become AVGN and they skyrocket… All of a sudden he thinks maybe I can be a big time director. He formulates a plan/script that will unite AVGN and filmmaking with the ET movie idea… He makes it. Really puts his all into it…. It does not take off. Only really huge fans like the movie…. What you have now is he has succumbed that this is the best it’s going to get for him…. I understand why he has others do all his editing and a lot of his writing. The problem here is it seems other people thought they could snipe off of James fame to up their celebrity. I mean really do we need the amount of Content we get from Cinemasscre??? I don’t think James is burnt out but I do think he feels like his ultimate goal off becoming a serious film director is dead. He keeps going more now out of financial responsibility to take care of his family, and is honestly probably accepted his place… It was obvious that after the movie things changed. It was not well implemented, and his fans noticed. I was real late to the party on RUclips in general so it does fascinate me how a lot of what I would call “not incredibly talented people” got fame in coincidence with RUclips’s rise. James is above all likable. Many of the people around him are not. The first videos I watched were the round table discussions about 90’s and 80’s movies. This is because I’m a big RLM fan and like their model… which I think Cinemasscre kinda went for… Now it’s not plagiarism to sit around a set and talk about movies… Sadly I don’t think plagiarism is the word more than laziness… But yes there was also plagiarism…. I’ve lost the thread…. His band sucks though, they are not in anyway musicians and it is terrible… meh… In conclusion he’s no longer building to something he’s maintaining what he has.
The weirdest thing is that he rebuilt the old Nerd room in his much smaller garage, rather than creating a new Nerd room entirely, just like he had done before when he moved to a different house.
I have an idea that I would have preferred them do for the 200th. I can imagine the Nerd doing research, and realizing ScreenWave is in reality LJN and the slobs are time travelers. As revenge for him making fun of LJN for years they form scrrenwave and bring their talents to his work lol. Then cuts to the Nerd yelling F*** that the whole universe can hear.
Or all James has to do is sit down and play a damn game, and talk about it, even if it isn't a bad game. It's why the Eathbound episode was good, he actually played the game, really liked it and had a lot to talk about. That's all I'm asking of him but instead he doesn't play the games and just gets others to and write the scripts for him. James doesn't do anything anymore and It's apparent.
@@Gatorade69 yeah I just wish he'd chill out and stop over-acting this stuff. Just play a game (even if it's a good or highly rated game, like you said) and talk about it in his original style. He needs to cut out the yelling. His yelling used to be a fine spice that he'd add to certain parts of the episode, but now he just dumps the whole bottle of spice in and yells during a lot of the shots. But the yelling isn't convincing because he isn't playing the games.. The "video game nerd" part of James has diminished greatly and now he's just "angry" for worse
@@ext93 Plus the yelling seemed more genuine. If you actually played the game and a part pissed you off it was definitely more genuine (even if exaggerated). It's a shame really. I mean I ask myself "Does James even like movies anymore ?" So many episodes of Rental Reviews/movie reviews he was so disinterested and even admitted to not rewatching the film in years. I mean this years Monster Madness was plagiarized, that tells me James did not watch any of those movies besides maybe a few of them (at most). It really is the bare minimum. Watch the movie or play the game and give me an honest review.
I'm beating a dead horse and I've said most of this before on the subreddit or elsewhere. The major thing I will never understand is this is Bimmy's main source of income (unless otherwise). If he is burnt out or tired of it he should just move on to something else. He has all these hired hands to do most of the work for him (after screwing over his friends), yet he still phones it in and has no time. Image having such a cushy job and just quarter assing it, and getting all defensive when others question your work process/ethic. It's also moronic that when he bought that house he didn't have a plan for a good dedicated room or outbuilding for a workspace. With the whole Nerd room it could have doubled as a entertainment room. Instead of watching movies on a laptop he plans on reviewing, on mute with the subtitles on, because he didn't want to wake anyone (I wish I was making that up). Because he didn't want to use the Raycons he shills. There are many youtubers who work normal full time jobs and do multiple videos errr "films" monthly with little to no help. And here is Jimmy treating us like we are assholes when we questioned what was going on. Because having two kids somehow eats up all his time. But I don't have kids so what do I know? I just work 40 hours a week doing manuel labour well James sits on a futon reading whatever script gets handed to him a few hours a month. I guess I want him to suffer. At least we have all this wonderfully hilarious content from the fans, on the car wreck of a channel. Big Ryan Fan BTW.
I think that the unique perspective you guys have (both directors in one way or another) is what makes your specific takes about James so fascinating to me, as well as a lot of other people. You have a lot of experience on what goes behind the scenes in regards to things like this, and so usually the criticisms are more accurate and even helpful as opposed to muh memes about muh 540 A good example was of the green screen moment. Of course it looked terrible, but hearing you guys point it out made me go, "huh, that's true."
Is he for real using a garage instead of his actual basement? When did he say that or when did people find that out? Also, if he's working with a company that has actual office space, why don't they have a designated nerd basement just for his show?
Yes, he rebuilt the basement when he moved. The podcast set is at Screenwave HQ. James has the video store, Nerd "room", and his cool rockstar space where he plays Sabbath riffs at his house. There's lots of info on it but It's past 5:40 and I just ran out of time.
It amazes me how many people don't know that it's not the OG nerd room anymore. My question is why didn't James ever mention it to his fanbase?? What's the point of keeping it some unspoken secret? He could have made a video showing him rebuilding the whole room and it would have been a positive, I think. But that just highlights another problem with nu-James. He has no meaningful interaction with his fans outside of the videos posted on the channel. Smoke and mirrors
i still don't understand why he had to move from his basement to his garage if it wasn't to improve things. like what did his wife tell him "i don't want all that video game stuff in the house! move it to the garage!" isn't that their livelihood and main source of income? i can't imagine April makes more than James unless she's like a doctor or something. why in the world would he move from his much larger basement to a garage just to make it an almost exact replica of his basement? i don't know maybe they wanted to turn it into a playroom for their kids or something
I think the 3rd part, “the game” this Brit was preparing turns into an LJN AVGN NES game. So the nerd comes full circle and he becomes what he destroyed
Something that always stood out to me is that James never did anything to bolster his presentation as the years went on, and James also having mentioned him going to film school and having a greater understanding of film through the years whilst his filmmaking choices are often pretty poor always stood out too me. The early days really made it personal and appealing but never growing out of that with continued success and financial growth screams laziness to me
I don't care for avgn's presentation as much as content. I binge watch old episodes for a reason and believe me, that reason is not presentation but good, inspired content.
The 'I Don't Give a Fuck Man' was hilarious... Also, thinking about it, I watched RCE's content (the classic Lucas' LOTR video) a few months before stumbling upon JamesNintendoNerd in 2006.
Ya this 200th ep was so convoluted and the thing that irked me was I thought it was gonna be one ep and turns out it’s going to be a 3 parter? It was hard to follow the premise of it
11:30 If you are willing to put your work out for people to see and profit from, it is fair game to critic their work. No matter how big or small. As long as you aren't hurting or harrassing the 'artist', it's fine.
We really need you guys to go into the deep lore of Justin Silverman and Silvermania. I used to watch Silvermania when it was still around and actually liked Justin.
Before hearing the podcast news that they were making a new AVGN game, I thought James was talking to the British guy about getting the actor likenesses from Back to the Future as an attempt to pay off in some kind of cameo. I thought he would get Christopher Lloyd to buzz in on the monitor to give his permission, and call the original NES game "a shitload of fuck" or something cringe like that, kinda like he did with Gilbert Gottfried. I've talked to elderly Christopher Lloyd, he's really nice and easy to get a hold of, I really thought that was going to be the payoff originally.
I'm so tired of his joke style where he goes on a 2 minute long rant and you can see the punchline coming a mile away but he just keeps going and going and you're just waiting for it to be over so he can move on. The latest example is in his part 2 video from yesterday where he was talking about how the football game asks you what kind of turf you play on. I had to stop watching the video because the setup was so exhausting.
@@agentallstar7 I think they try to create humour based on what they think of when they think of AVGN, like funny moments from past videos that they think people appreciate, but it usually comes off as odd, even forced at times. Almost like an inferior fan project. To be fair I think they do the best they can given the circumstances, it's not that easy to emulate that style of humour without the imput of James (presumably).
I knew the guy had lost his marbles but never knew the fucking AVGN was nurturing a Barndoor Schaub-esque reddit following.....also any one that fucking has ads especially the schlock James slings is fair game for any level of critique
@@RedCowArcade Of course not. My reply was mostly in response to the people on that dorky Reddit that spend their lives shitting on something they could simply choose not to watch.
i enjoy listening to guys that rip on modern avgn, its nit picky sometimes but a lot of times so true. that being said after all this time i wouldnt expect them to be as good as they used to be. especially working with the slobs now. but i still have a lot of respect for james and still love watching his old work from the glory days. me and the wife still need to checkout the old board james series.
The reason it seems mean is that it's just hard to find out that James never really actually knew what he was doing. The way he used to talk made some of us (and himself) actually believe he had a directorial vision.
What happened with AVGN and Cinemassacre is basically what happens when any counter-culture show or experience that runs too long for what it was. Instead of being fresh, edgy or boundary breaking, the shows eventually conform more to commercial, social and political correctness to try and stay bankable and on the air. In the process losing every aspect of what made it so amusing in its infancy. With AVGN: the movie was a dud and took the steam out of the rest of the show, James should not have made it and making Mike run the channel and then SW was a disaster. Simpsons and Family Guy buckled to every safe politically correct cliché and made every episode about going through the motions while losing what the characters were about. You either scale down and retain what you were about for less pay or sell out in the worst way possibly. Many sadly make the poorer choices. Even removing characters along the way or falling out with them so you are left with nobody but the memories of the past. And an audience that begrudgingly hate watches hoping things will change when they sadly won't.
Avgn really died for me with 200. It had potential and i thought he would do something really good. But it just felt like a desperate low-effort shit. Me after part I: Next will be funnier, next will be funnier Me after part II: Next hopefully will be funnier, it will be good... please let it be Me after Part III: ...*Deep sigh* "R.I.P Avgn" Unsubscribed: Screenw... Sorry... "Cinemassacre" Subscribed to: Red Cow Arcade
Great video as always! Since you mention the technical side again, I wanna talk about something. Are you familiar with Joueur du Grenier? He's a French "AVGN ripoff", who, in my opinion, started like most copycats (ie. inferior to the original) but rapidly became a lot funnier and interesting than its inspiration. Their channel recently surpassed Cinemassacre in size, which is impressive given there's a much smaller audience due to the language barrier, and they've posted a studio tour video in 2021. It's... shocking. Basically they're like RLM - they have a huge hangar with all their equipment, props, a dedicated "nerd room" giving the illusion that it's just a living room with a couch, tv, etc, but plenty of space to shoot, put the lighting, etc. James has absolutely no excuses and it's obvious he is not tech savvy in terms of computers, which can be understandable, but he is also not tech savvy when it comes to filmmaking, which is just shameful. Look for "jdg studio tour 2021" if you're curious. PS: do that YKWBS video!!!!!
I think his reasoning behind splitting the episodes were definitely the sponsorship deals. Why do one big video with one sponsor when you can do three? I see no other reason than that to split the video up. It was a very weird decision to make if that’s not the reason. Edit: also I’m hoping that there is so payoff in part 3? Maybe something to do with Freddy and Jason since the Halloween episodes felt like they were leading to something and just kinda ended?
Jameson's tripod narration reminded me of the guy who built an oreos separator machine (removes cream from cookie) a few years back except he is serious.
the british guy is sam bedoes of freakzone games, aka the guy who actually made avgn adventures and ASSimilation. BONUS COMMENT: when the start of the nostalgia critic’s 100th episode takes the piss out of the exact thing james did for AVGN 200, you *know* things went downhill
Don't worry about being mean to James, he's excepted all the love over the years, he has to excepted all the hate to, that's what comes with that kind of job.
As someone who played those sports games and played sports the reviews of the games was terrible. I doubt he played them at all and no one at screen wave ever played a sport.
@@erysecret Well one thing that stood out is they complained about all the numbers/ stats when they had to pick players. Back when it came out Baseball was the number one sport in this country and a players stats were important. Baseball historically is the sport where the stats meant the most…prior to the steroid era and Baseball becoming a much less than huge national draw for attention.As a kid I loved baseball games and playing them. It was just clear they had no interest in the game or it’s nuances..it was just a device to bludgeon LJN. Those were some of the most half assed reviews imaginable.I have no interest in Pokémon so if I did a review anyone who saw it that enjoyed Pokémon would say this is a BS review by someone who couldn’t care less and knew nothing. Considering how little any of those slobs know about sports (which is virtually nothing) I would wager that screenwave ripped off key parts of that and filled around with James shtick. RBI Baseball was great but so many others like Dusty Diamond , Baseball Stars , Bad News Baseball… the baseball games on NES was a very consistent genre for that system.
@@agentallstar7 what an absolutely fascinating perspective. I'd recommend posting this to the Cinemassacre Truth subreddit honestly, maybe titled "My Problem with AVGN 200 part II" or something along those lines. The analogy you gave to pokemon was great as well. Thanks for the response!
@@erysecret Thanks very much that’s very kind ! I don’t have a Reddit account and outside of this tend to stay off social media but maybe I’ll give it a look! I have noticed that Cinemassacre has a good number of fans that will just attack you personally if you don’t like something about a channel or personality. Same can be said on politics now is much the same. The tribalist mentality will defend theirs right or wrong. I just think Over the years I’m seeing James as less authentic…he’s not much of a gamer and reading someone else’s scripts is pure lazy. I’m a writer (nothing accomplished worth bragging about) And seems to me he has no pride in his work anymore. It’s just for money and to prop up the slobs. I’m clueless on video editing but this channel explained it so it seems reasonable that a guy I thought was very clever at making videos is really bad and does dumb shit with tripods…even I know that’s a stupid idea to zip tie shit. He has no time and yet he when it came time to take responsibility he didn’t do any of it…He is like a mentally checked out spouse. One day he is just gonna divorce it all. To me James is like Halloween 2 - It could have been so much better and we wanted more. Instead we got one bad mistake making Myers related to Laurie which led to sequels of garbage.
I remember once him and Mike were talking about SNES vs Genesis and how Genesis was had a larger sports library and James said something like "well how many baseball games do you need? Shouldn't one be enough?" I thought wow is he clueless! Sports games imitate the actual physics of a sport. How could one game tackle (no pun intended) that?
10:02 what a cheap bozo. With the money he has, he could have paid a professional to do the work correctly but he probably didn’t have the time to hire one and if the contractor is working overtime past 5:40pm, forget about it. Woof
I think the idea behind the LJN video was that the company was unable to do anything with their games because of copyright (money) issues. That's why James had those parts talking with that guy on the computer.
I wouldn't say you guys are engaging AVGN in a bad faith way. I feel like you'd be happy to report that he has done things right, if that happens. The subreddit which you reference a lot (and seem to court their views) on the other hand, is pretty toxic. Nothing coming from that place is beneficial to anyone.
Great video. 👍 I don't understand why James didn't go all out and review one iconic game for his 200th episode, rather than make a rubbish clipshow. Imagine if for episode 200 he played something like Dark Souls. That game would kick his ass, he would die a lot, and he wouldn't have to "fake" being angry, because I can imagine him finding the game genuinely frustrating. Also, seeing as Dark Souls is a very popular game, a video of him covering it would have got a lot of views, even more so if he ended up hating it seeing as its a critically acclaimed game. Maybe he should hire me, I can do a better job coming up with ideas than screenwave can.
I agree. I am a cinema historian, practiced the theory, this is relevant because the chubby guy and the seudo rocker have changed cinemassacre for BAD. I've seen films of Bela Tarr, Malick, Tarkovsky and Bergman, i care about how they place their camera and all of that but not on a channel that speaks of video games. The old episodes were great because they had genius script and low budget production values, now its all the contrary, specially on that The Immortal episode, leave the continuous shot scene to Nolan or Malick, i don't give a funk about an episode shot in one take James!!!! The people behind cinemassacre think they need to do all of that to keep the audience
"And then you gotta hire Slobs... BUT NOBODY LIKES THE SLAAAAAAHBS!" bwahahahaha!
I would watch that
My favorite part.
Calm down nerd
What’s wrong with you, how is that so funny to you?
@@VisionThing because James/Bimmy has such a bizarre accent
The 200th episode actually feels like a metaphor for the current AVGN, where James gets more and more frustrated because he's trying to work with people who can't do anything right and he doesn't have the time to do it right by himself, even the smaller Nerd room looks like walls closing in on him.
16:15 Howling at this impression! the cadence and emphasis of the Nerd is spot on. _You know what I don't GIIIIIVE a fuck about? Content. Producing it_ 😂
The avgn impression "whY so many sh*tty gAmes?!" is so good. The inflection is just right
He does a pretty good impression
"you know what I don't giiiive a fuck about" was spot on too!
“my childhood desksssss”
I just saw Frankie do Nic Cage and was laughing for 10 minutes
Its so surreal hearing youtubers actually say "Big Ryan Fan BTW"
That just tells you how much worse the slobs are.
These guys don't look at the camera. That is fucking brilliant. Why other pods feel the need to stare a hole through the fucking camera and through my soul for 2 hours is beyond me.
Haha, I actually agree with this! Obviously
It's two dudes having a conversation and we're just the bystanders overhearing it.
I agree with this too and it's one of the many many many many (inset one hundred instances of the word 'many' ) many reasons FRANKIE AND EJ ARE MY FAVORITE CREATORS!!!
Who cares
@@InsaneCopePosse ur mom
That cake looked sad. They didn't even think to take it out of the box. It seems like a cake you bring last minute to a party you didnt want to go to.
They returned it later that day lol
That was a store-bought cake that was previously frozen, which the cake decorator then drew a basic 200 on.
At my local store, they have $10 cakes and $15 cakes. This looked like a $10 cake.
Alright, this one had me genuinely laughing out loud a few times. I feel exactly like you guys do about James and listening to you talk about it is ridiculously entertaining, you hit all the beats.
whoa whoa whoa there. his wife DID NOT make the cake. It was purchased at Wegmens, as can be seen on the box that the cake is within
Plot twist : Wife works at Wegmans.
Yeah I'm just kidding. April does make some delicious green pies though.
Wife doesn't make cakes.
Wife doesn't take care of the kids.
What does she even do?
@@DiosBabilonia I bet she does take care of the kids, all the time. I bet It's James who is always telling her "I'm busy writing Nerd Episodes, I'm busy filming stuff, etc" while he sits in his cool rock n roll room practicing easy guitar riffs and reading about Atlantis.
And she actually watches the channel, to keep an eye on James and knows he's full of shit, that's why she got the 5$ cake, cause she knows James isn't worth the TIME it would take to make one from scratch.
@@DiosBabilonia She held the camera for James once or twice.
Wife just wifes around, apparently
The sports segment was definitely reminscent of older episodes. You can tell he actually had something to say about his experience with sports games as a kid, as opposed to just playing some game and saying it sucks.
True! And as opposed to reading lines he didn't write as well
He has said in other episodes he never played sports games and it showed. None of them know anything about sports games or sports in general.
@@agentallstar7 are you the real Jimmy Harbaugh, my second grade teacher??
@@ednawitbeck5504 No I coach football but your second grade teacher has a great name.
Your impression is spot-on, right down to the drawn out talk-shouting and all the movement being in the jaw and lower arms.
James posted a blooper clip of him trying to film a shot of himself tied to a chair and he was getting genuinely frustrated and it was funnier than his acted anger in recent episodes.
James happens to have a good natural voice and accent to be funny when on a rant or reacting in real time, examples that come to mind being Dragon's Lair, Silver Surfer, Batman and Dick Tracy.
Damnit ! There goes the onion ! That Behind the Scenes video was a damn disaster.
Old AVGN: "grass or terf? Who cares just start the damn game!"
New AVGN: "grass or terf?!?! EEEEHRRMAGHERRDDDD AHAHAAAAAA!!!!!"
@@dannysummers4591 difference is that in the past James would have something to say because he actually played the games, so the jokes were just sprinkled in and made it funny. Now, Bimmy doesn't play the games because no time, and has nothing substantial to say about them, so the jokes became a total crutch. He over-acts the hell out of these new episodes. His funniest moments in old episodes were just calm, offhand remarks about inconvenient or annoying aspects of the games. Now, everything has to be an epic 40 second rant with yelling or a really unfunny line that he also yells. His delivery is so bad now, his acting got worse
@@Gatorade69 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd there goes the onion
@@Gatorade69 That onion scene was really bizarre. James hire Slobwave to help him out so why can't they help him to hold the onion or tie him up for that scene? And if he's afraid that those slobs may spread Covid to him then why don't he ask his wife or his daughter help him out instead? He kept saying he has no time yet he has all the help in the world readily accessible to him and he does not even use them at all.
Holy shit the impressions of modern nerd are perfectly accurate
It's striking the staunch difference between the awkward cinemassacre podcast and what you guys do on red cow. You two clearly have good commentary and chemistry, keep it up!
That's because these guys are friends, not hired unlike Screenwave, I wish James would get his true friends on because it was cool when he has a childhood friend on to see James actually having unscripted emotion
@@Tomversal he's pushed all his friends he had away. It's all hired help. However, it's still not nearly as bad as Channel Awesome. Still that's a low bar
The latest podcast James isn’t even there, it’s just Ryan and Justin looking at a laptop
@@JaredPresleyExperience honestly nostalgia critic is way better than AVGN these days. Doug still has passion for what he does and he's toned down the skits in recent videos. He's still a little cringe but at least he's being himself in the process, which I can appreciate more than having ghost writers
@@JaredPresleyExperience
Yeah you're right sadly, I wish the channel could be how it was but we'll never get that again, and true the Channel Awesome situation was really scummy
Almost a year later and I still come back from time to time just to hear, "...but nobody likes the slobs!"
Along with "superintendo" don't forget about "fry the 13th."
Been waiting for someone to talk about this
Honestly the cringiest part of the episode 200 debacle was the cake. His wife bought him a low effort shitty Walmart cake lol
i thought she made it?
@@rhyantrick8178 Would a homemade cake be boxed up just like if you bought it in a store?
April: No homemade cake. I refuse.
The cynic in me says he split it into three parts to put more sponsors
I felt bad for him when you showed the picture of that cake, it looks like a 10$ grocery store cake you get for a co-workers birthday, not a 15 year culmination celebrating 200 episodes. One thing I dislike is being called an asshole for mildly criticizing someone's artistic work, I think there's a contract you enter into when creating something artistic and sharing it with the public.
Yeah it said the same thing.
Who gives a FUCK what others think/say….if they’re not a close friend/family, who cares, fuck em
Well, most of them are assholes. If you aren't, then don't take offense. By pretending his asshole comment had no merit you are whitewashing hundreds of thousands (at this point) completely unhinged lunatics shitting on him and his family. At least I will say the guys in this video are okay and only about 4 out of 10 comments on this video are unhinged.
Awesome Vid!
Thank You very much for Your Work! Greetings from Germany
It's real simple...Mike's input made for a much more charming and entertaining AVGN than what we are getting with the AVGN that is coming from James and SW. Folks can like or dislike Mike, and it's easy to see why he can be an acquired taste...but it's easy to see that he was the genius that made Cinemassacre, and especially the AVGN, what it became. Ever since he has been gone, the content has been on a steady downhill slide.
I don't remember as many complaints when it was just Kyle, Mike, Bootsy and Kevin Finn.
@@walker1984I am not someone who uses Reddit or anything, but I have watched all AVGN since he released the NES TMNT review, and I don’t remember any complaints, like ever, when it was that lineup.
Ok here’s my thing about James Rolfe… He started out just being a huge admirer like most of us of movies and had that same dream of being a filmmaker in his late teens early 20’s like most of use that actually watch these kind of videos. But in school he realized that his talent was perhaps limited… Ok so he shoots a few videos of what would become AVGN and they skyrocket… All of a sudden he thinks maybe I can be a big time director. He formulates a plan/script that will unite AVGN and filmmaking with the ET movie idea… He makes it. Really puts his all into it…. It does not take off. Only really huge fans like the movie…. What you have now is he has succumbed that this is the best it’s going to get for him…. I understand why he has others do all his editing and a lot of his writing. The problem here is it seems other people thought they could snipe off of James fame to up their celebrity. I mean really do we need the amount of Content we get from Cinemasscre??? I don’t think James is burnt out but I do think he feels like his ultimate goal off becoming a serious film director is dead. He keeps going more now out of financial responsibility to take care of his family, and is honestly probably accepted his place… It was obvious that after the movie things changed. It was not well implemented, and his fans noticed. I was real late to the party on RUclips in general so it does fascinate me how a lot of what I would call “not incredibly talented people” got fame in coincidence with RUclips’s rise. James is above all likable. Many of the people around him are not. The first videos I watched were the round table discussions about 90’s and 80’s movies. This is because I’m a big RLM fan and like their model… which I think Cinemasscre kinda went for… Now it’s not plagiarism to sit around a set and talk about movies… Sadly I don’t think plagiarism is the word more than laziness… But yes there was also plagiarism…. I’ve lost the thread…. His band sucks though, they are not in anyway musicians and it is terrible… meh… In conclusion he’s no longer building to something he’s maintaining what he has.
Make that video. Also the beat poetry part was particularly hilarious.
The weirdest thing is that he rebuilt the old Nerd room in his much smaller garage, rather than creating a new Nerd room entirely, just like he had done before when he moved to a different house.
I have an idea that I would have preferred them do for the 200th. I can imagine the Nerd doing research, and realizing ScreenWave is in reality LJN and the slobs are time travelers. As revenge for him making fun of LJN for years they form scrrenwave and bring their talents to his work lol. Then cuts to the Nerd yelling F*** that the whole universe can hear.
Or all James has to do is sit down and play a damn game, and talk about it, even if it isn't a bad game. It's why the Eathbound episode was good, he actually played the game, really liked it and had a lot to talk about. That's all I'm asking of him but instead he doesn't play the games and just gets others to and write the scripts for him. James doesn't do anything anymore and It's apparent.
@@Gatorade69 yeah I just wish he'd chill out and stop over-acting this stuff. Just play a game (even if it's a good or highly rated game, like you said) and talk about it in his original style. He needs to cut out the yelling. His yelling used to be a fine spice that he'd add to certain parts of the episode, but now he just dumps the whole bottle of spice in and yells during a lot of the shots. But the yelling isn't convincing because he isn't playing the games.. The "video game nerd" part of James has diminished greatly and now he's just "angry" for worse
@@ext93 Plus the yelling seemed more genuine. If you actually played the game and a part pissed you off it was definitely more genuine (even if exaggerated).
It's a shame really. I mean I ask myself "Does James even like movies anymore ?" So many episodes of Rental Reviews/movie reviews he was so disinterested and even admitted to not rewatching the film in years. I mean this years Monster Madness was plagiarized, that tells me James did not watch any of those movies besides maybe a few of them (at most).
It really is the bare minimum. Watch the movie or play the game and give me an honest review.
... let it go. Damn.
Btw I love the Avgn coverage more more more!
I'm beating a dead horse and I've said most of this before on the subreddit or elsewhere.
The major thing I will never understand is this is Bimmy's main source of income (unless otherwise). If he is burnt out or tired of it he should just move on to something else.
He has all these hired hands to do most of the work for him (after screwing over his friends), yet he still phones it in and has no time.
Image having such a cushy job and just quarter assing it, and getting all defensive when others question your work process/ethic.
It's also moronic that when he bought that house he didn't have a plan for a good dedicated room or outbuilding for a workspace. With the whole Nerd room it could have doubled as a entertainment room.
Instead of watching movies on a laptop he plans on reviewing, on mute with the subtitles on, because he didn't want to wake anyone (I wish I was making that up).
Because he didn't want to use the Raycons he shills.
There are many youtubers who work normal full time jobs and do multiple videos errr "films" monthly with little to no help. And here is Jimmy treating us like we are assholes when we questioned what was going on. Because having two kids somehow eats up all his time. But I don't have kids so what do I know?
I just work 40 hours a week doing manuel labour well James sits on a futon reading whatever script gets handed to him a few hours a month.
I guess I want him to suffer.
At least we have all this wonderfully hilarious content from the fans, on the car wreck of a channel.
Big Ryan Fan BTW.
You are genuinely unhinged.
I think that the unique perspective you guys have (both directors in one way or another) is what makes your specific takes about James so fascinating to me, as well as a lot of other people. You have a lot of experience on what goes behind the scenes in regards to things like this, and so usually the criticisms are more accurate and even helpful as opposed to muh memes about muh 540
A good example was of the green screen moment. Of course it looked terrible, but hearing you guys point it out made me go, "huh, that's true."
the fact that the 200th episode is mostly a clip show
16:14 had me laughing out loud
Justin Silverman is embarrassing
14k in the truth subreddit is mentioned in this video. Now it’s grown to over 17k in 8 months
James just has no time to review games anymore, he has to go to bed at 5:40PM
Is he for real using a garage instead of his actual basement? When did he say that or when did people find that out? Also, if he's working with a company that has actual office space, why don't they have a designated nerd basement just for his show?
He doesn't have time to drive to their office space
Yes, he rebuilt the basement when he moved. The podcast set is at Screenwave HQ. James has the video store, Nerd "room", and his cool rockstar space where he plays Sabbath riffs at his house. There's lots of info on it but It's past 5:40 and I just ran out of time.
It amazes me how many people don't know that it's not the OG nerd room anymore. My question is why didn't James ever mention it to his fanbase?? What's the point of keeping it some unspoken secret? He could have made a video showing him rebuilding the whole room and it would have been a positive, I think. But that just highlights another problem with nu-James. He has no meaningful interaction with his fans outside of the videos posted on the channel. Smoke and mirrors
9:55 That hole in the desk always gets me! Why couldn’t he have just used a 25mm flat bit? It’s like he used a normal twist bit and hacked away at it!
i still don't understand why he had to move from his basement to his garage if it wasn't to improve things. like what did his wife tell him "i don't want all that video game stuff in the house! move it to the garage!" isn't that their livelihood and main source of income? i can't imagine April makes more than James unless she's like a doctor or something. why in the world would he move from his much larger basement to a garage just to make it an almost exact replica of his basement? i don't know maybe they wanted to turn it into a playroom for their kids or something
You guys should make a parody of Avgn. You have the rhythm and the tone.
I think the 3rd part, “the game” this Brit was preparing turns into an LJN AVGN NES game. So the nerd comes full circle and he becomes what he destroyed
You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain
@@JaredPresleyExperience good job butchering an amazingly overused quote!
The avgn impression keeps me watching this video everyday.
Something that always stood out to me is that James never did anything to bolster his presentation as the years went on, and James also having mentioned him going to film school and having a greater understanding of film through the years whilst his filmmaking choices are often pretty poor always stood out too me. The early days really made it personal and appealing but never growing out of that with continued success and financial growth screams laziness to me
I don't care for avgn's presentation as much as content. I binge watch old episodes for a reason and believe me, that reason is not presentation but good, inspired content.
I love Frankie's plan to make a "Ya know what I don't five a F about? Content!" video. That sounds like it would be extremely funny!
The 'I Don't Give a Fuck Man' was hilarious... Also, thinking about it, I watched RCE's content (the classic Lucas' LOTR video) a few months before stumbling upon JamesNintendoNerd in 2006.
Wild!
This 19 minute clip of these guys talking was 1000x more entertaining than the AVGN movie.
So was my appendectomy.
Love you guys ❤️
Yay finally! Been waiting for this episode!
Well, glad you boys are still watching and reviewing. I gave up on AVGN last year, the series is just too awful to watch.
Your rendition of YKWBS is the funniest thing ever lmaooo
This was way more funny than the episode 200 fiasco at cinemassacre.
So a clip show was the 200th episode? James made it sound like 200 was going be something big.
You gotta make the video now. Would probably get the most upvoted post on Cinemassacre Truth.
great walkthough of the podcast.
Hey, I love your videos big Ryan fan btw
@@eba56 hey thanks a ton :D
(oh and I'm also a big fan of Ryan btw.)
Please review his roast on Silvermania - not a single friend was there, just the SM guys, it was pathetic
I wanted to finish watching this but it's five forty.
I literally cannot bear to watch this episode, so I’m watching you guys talk about it instead
Same. I stopped watching James awhile back
Same
Numbers don't lie, your great at cinemassacre Content, please make more
yepp... almost as these guys are leeches. Their "original" content is trash lol
16:14 the impression of James is funnier then anything James has done in years.
Ya this 200th ep was so convoluted and the thing that irked me was I thought it was gonna be one ep and turns out it’s going to be a 3 parter? It was hard to follow the premise of it
The profits of culture we deserve!
I didn't know Matt McMuscles had a podcast.
I like your positive approach, big Ryan fan btw.
11:30 If you are willing to put your work out for people to see and profit from, it is fair game to critic their work. No matter how big or small. As long as you aren't hurting or harrassing the 'artist', it's fine.
We really need you guys to go into the deep lore of Justin Silverman and Silvermania. I used to watch Silvermania when it was still around and actually liked Justin.
Before hearing the podcast news that they were making a new AVGN game, I thought James was talking to the British guy about getting the actor likenesses from Back to the Future as an attempt to pay off in some kind of cameo. I thought he would get Christopher Lloyd to buzz in on the monitor to give his permission, and call the original NES game "a shitload of fuck" or something cringe like that, kinda like he did with Gilbert Gottfried. I've talked to elderly Christopher Lloyd, he's really nice and easy to get a hold of, I really thought that was going to be the payoff originally.
OMG I feel like I just woke up from the Matrix when you guys acknowledged "Super Intendo" and that it's widely known haha damn
Thats a great ree-view!
I'm so tired of his joke style where he goes on a 2 minute long rant and you can see the punchline coming a mile away but he just keeps going and going and you're just waiting for it to be over so he can move on. The latest example is in his part 2 video from yesterday where he was talking about how the football game asks you what kind of turf you play on. I had to stop watching the video because the setup was so exhausting.
Agreed…the comedy writing is severely lacking and really usually has been. The over use of fuck and shit is another.
Constant referential humour to older episodes is my main gripe. I had to skip the 'how did you learn to fly' segment in a recent video.
@@Apanblod Kieran , Silverman just aren’t that funny.
@@agentallstar7 I think they try to create humour based on what they think of when they think of AVGN, like funny moments from past videos that they think people appreciate, but it usually comes off as odd, even forced at times. Almost like an inferior fan project. To be fair I think they do the best they can given the circumstances, it's not that easy to emulate that style of humour without the imput of James (presumably).
@@Apanblod James doesn’t seem funny and seems likely that he wasn’t the main influence behind what made it a fun show.He’s not really even a gamer
Seinfeld did a clip show for their final episode.
You guys should make more videos about cinemassacre. I like to listen to them as podcasts on my walks sometimes.
I knew the guy had lost his marbles but never knew the fucking AVGN was nurturing a Barndoor Schaub-esque reddit following.....also any one that fucking has ads especially the schlock James slings is fair game for any level of critique
Brenda Shlabb?
great guy, never met him
@@BananaPhoPhilly
When I stop liking a show, I stop watching it and thinking about it. Wild!
You disapprove of people doing reviews?
@@RedCowArcade Of course not. My reply was mostly in response to the people on that dorky Reddit that spend their lives shitting on something they could simply choose not to watch.
yall are alogging pretty hard with all the avgn stuff
I’m with EJ keep talking about this please.
I knew you'd be back. You couldn't resist.
Part 1 is still not at 1 million views after 8 days. I remember when it used to hit 1 million views almost instantly.
i enjoy listening to guys that rip on modern avgn, its nit picky sometimes but a lot of times so true. that being said after all this time i wouldnt expect them to be as good as they used to be. especially working with the slobs now. but i still have a lot of respect for james and still love watching his old work from the glory days. me and the wife still need to checkout the old board james series.
The reason it seems mean is that it's just hard to find out that James never really actually knew what he was doing. The way he used to talk made some of us (and himself) actually believe he had a directorial vision.
What happened with AVGN and Cinemassacre is basically what happens when any counter-culture show or experience that runs too long for what it was. Instead of being fresh, edgy or boundary breaking, the shows eventually conform more to commercial, social and political correctness to try and stay bankable and on the air. In the process losing every aspect of what made it so amusing in its infancy. With AVGN: the movie was a dud and took the steam out of the rest of the show, James should not have made it and making Mike run the channel and then SW was a disaster. Simpsons and Family Guy buckled to every safe politically correct cliché and made every episode about going through the motions while losing what the characters were about. You either scale down and retain what you were about for less pay or sell out in the worst way possibly. Many sadly make the poorer choices. Even removing characters along the way or falling out with them so you are left with nobody but the memories of the past. And an audience that begrudgingly hate watches hoping things will change when they sadly won't.
Avgn really died for me with 200.
It had potential and i thought he would do something really good.
But it just felt like a desperate low-effort shit.
Me after part I: Next will be funnier, next will be funnier
Me after part II: Next hopefully will be funnier, it will be good... please let it be
Me after Part III: ...*Deep sigh* "R.I.P Avgn"
Unsubscribed: Screenw... Sorry... "Cinemassacre"
Subscribed to: Red Cow Arcade
We need more of these videos asap…
Great video as always!
Since you mention the technical side again, I wanna talk about something. Are you familiar with Joueur du Grenier? He's a French "AVGN ripoff", who, in my opinion, started like most copycats (ie. inferior to the original) but rapidly became a lot funnier and interesting than its inspiration. Their channel recently surpassed Cinemassacre in size, which is impressive given there's a much smaller audience due to the language barrier, and they've posted a studio tour video in 2021. It's... shocking. Basically they're like RLM - they have a huge hangar with all their equipment, props, a dedicated "nerd room" giving the illusion that it's just a living room with a couch, tv, etc, but plenty of space to shoot, put the lighting, etc. James has absolutely no excuses and it's obvious he is not tech savvy in terms of computers, which can be understandable, but he is also not tech savvy when it comes to filmmaking, which is just shameful. Look for "jdg studio tour 2021" if you're curious.
PS: do that YKWBS video!!!!!
I think his reasoning behind splitting the episodes were definitely the sponsorship deals. Why do one big video with one sponsor when you can do three? I see no other reason than that to split the video up. It was a very weird decision to make if that’s not the reason.
Edit: also I’m hoping that there is so payoff in part 3? Maybe something to do with Freddy and Jason since the Halloween episodes felt like they were leading to something and just kinda ended?
Jameson's tripod narration reminded me of the guy who built an oreos separator machine (removes cream from cookie) a few years back except he is serious.
The new nerd has a lot of space, but it ain't floor-space....
MAKE THE VIDEO BOYS, ITS GOTTA HAPPEN
Was worried after watching the first part but found part 2 to be more enjoyable
Part 2 was definitely better. Yeah it's nothing special but it shows there's still potential to make good episodes
the british guy is sam bedoes of freakzone games, aka the guy who actually made avgn adventures and ASSimilation.
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when the start of the nostalgia critic’s 100th episode takes the piss out of the exact thing james did for AVGN 200, you *know* things went downhill
Don't worry about being mean to James, he's excepted all the love over the years, he has to excepted all the hate to, that's what comes with that kind of job.
Big Ryan Fan here btw
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As someone who played those sports games and played sports the reviews of the games was terrible. I doubt he played them at all and no one at screen wave ever played a sport.
How were they in your opinion? Curious to hear your thoughts
@@erysecret Well one thing that stood out is they complained about all the numbers/ stats when they had to pick players. Back when it came out Baseball was the number one sport in this country and a players stats were important. Baseball historically is the sport where the stats meant the most…prior to the steroid era and Baseball becoming a much less than huge national draw for attention.As a kid I loved baseball games and playing them. It was just clear they had no interest in the game or it’s nuances..it was just a device to bludgeon LJN. Those were some of the most half assed reviews imaginable.I have no interest in Pokémon so if I did a review anyone who saw it that enjoyed Pokémon would say this is a BS review by someone who couldn’t care less and knew nothing. Considering how little any of those slobs know about sports (which is virtually nothing) I would wager that screenwave ripped off key parts of that and filled around with James shtick. RBI Baseball was great but so many others like Dusty Diamond , Baseball Stars , Bad News Baseball… the baseball games on NES was a very consistent genre for that system.
@@agentallstar7 what an absolutely fascinating perspective. I'd recommend posting this to the Cinemassacre Truth subreddit honestly, maybe titled "My Problem with AVGN 200 part II" or something along those lines. The analogy you gave to pokemon was great as well. Thanks for the response!
@@erysecret Thanks very much that’s very kind ! I don’t have a Reddit account and outside of this tend to stay off social media but maybe I’ll give it a look! I have noticed that Cinemassacre has a good number of fans that will just attack you personally if you don’t like something about a channel or personality. Same can be said on politics now is much the same. The tribalist mentality will defend theirs right or wrong. I just think Over the years I’m seeing James as less authentic…he’s not much of a gamer and reading someone else’s scripts is pure lazy. I’m a writer (nothing accomplished worth bragging about) And seems to me he has no pride in his work anymore. It’s just for money and to prop up the slobs. I’m clueless on video editing but this channel explained it so it seems reasonable that a guy I thought was very clever at making videos is really bad and does dumb shit with tripods…even I know that’s a stupid idea to zip tie shit. He has no time and yet he when it came time to take responsibility he didn’t do any of it…He is like a mentally checked out spouse. One day he is just gonna divorce it all. To me James is like Halloween 2 - It could have been so much better and we wanted more. Instead we got one bad mistake making Myers related to Laurie which led to sequels of garbage.
I remember once him and Mike were talking about SNES vs Genesis and how Genesis was had a larger sports library and James said something like "well how many baseball games do you need? Shouldn't one be enough?" I thought wow is he clueless! Sports games imitate the actual physics of a sport. How could one game tackle (no pun intended) that?
10:02 what a cheap bozo. With the money he has, he could have paid a professional to do the work correctly but he probably didn’t have the time to hire one and if the contractor is working overtime past 5:40pm, forget about it. Woof
LOL that " ykwb" parody was awesome
You guys legit had me laughing tears the last few minutes 🤣
I think the idea behind the LJN video was that the company was unable to do anything with their games because of copyright (money) issues. That's why James had those parts talking with that guy on the computer.
PLEASE do a video covering his latest video of climbing the Rocky IV mountain.
I wouldn't say you guys are engaging AVGN in a bad faith way. I feel like you'd be happy to report that he has done things right, if that happens. The subreddit which you reference a lot (and seem to court their views) on the other hand, is pretty toxic. Nothing coming from that place is beneficial to anyone.
I was waiting for this video lol
Great video. 👍
I don't understand why James didn't go all out and review one iconic game for his 200th episode, rather than make a rubbish clipshow.
Imagine if for episode 200 he played something like Dark Souls. That game would kick his ass, he would die a lot, and he wouldn't have to "fake" being angry, because I can imagine him finding the game genuinely frustrating.
Also, seeing as Dark Souls is a very popular game, a video of him covering it would have got a lot of views, even more so if he ended up hating it seeing as its a critically acclaimed game.
Maybe he should hire me, I can do a better job coming up with ideas than screenwave can.
Supern Tendo is my favorite console too.
I agree.
I am a cinema historian, practiced the theory, this is relevant because the chubby guy and the seudo rocker have changed cinemassacre for BAD. I've seen films of Bela Tarr, Malick, Tarkovsky and Bergman, i care about how they place their camera and all of that but not on a channel that speaks of video games. The old episodes were great because they had genius script and low budget production values, now its all the contrary, specially on that The Immortal episode, leave the continuous shot scene to Nolan or Malick, i don't give a funk about an episode shot in one take James!!!!
The people behind cinemassacre think they need to do all of that to keep the audience
Big Ryan fan btw.