Cinemassacre making good changes? | Red Cow Arcade Clip
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- James Rolfe recently advertised that he'll be producing more content independently, and sticking to scripted content.
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I just want more behind the scenes stuff about James and his weird eccentricities, you just know it doesn't end with the taping of lights to the ceiling and using a steak knife to drill holes through tough '80s wood.
I agree with the theory that it all changed after the movie and then it became phone it in job as opposed to a passion project
he would blurt put something unconvenient
He used a STEAK KNIFE?!?
@@at5297 no, but it looks as if he did! All he needed was about a 15mm flat bit and it would have looked perfect!
How about pouring a can of warm beer slowly into an old bottle (theres foam 😯), and then bragging about chugging a whole bottle of real beer for the first time in your 40s?
"I'm addicted to these slobs. I just can't quit them"
ROLFEMAO
The VHS video was absolutely one of the most wholesome videos in a while and honestly it was also the only one in quite some time that was definetely like "oh yeah this is the James writing and camera work I'm more familiar with" It actually made me happy to watch
I didn't realize that Ryan is the founder of Screenwave media.
So basically, it was Ryan all along who ruined everything and i am not even surprised, it's like the plot of a generic movie
I'm glad Red Cow commented that the VHS commentary is intentionally a throwback. He restates the theme of the channel (nostalgia) and he acknowledges the store could go away someday (his own window of time to be creative). There are some interesting differences between the VHS collection videos over the years; they're like markers of transition points in his career. Also I think no one's mentioned this video store replica set is his own and not the other complete replica video store set that is Screenwave's. It's a subtle territory shift. Like Frankie said I'm not a hater, but Rolfe is strangely like a show I've been watching for almost 20 years now, so the highs and the lows are all fascinating.
I'm not a hater, but I'm also not the least bit optimistic about the channel's prospects, and my view of James has changed dramatically. For me this is just the new phase of watching Cinemassacre. Whatever happens, it'll be interesting.
Well said. The idea of doing a "what I'm known for outside of AVGN or MM" video felt like an olive branch offering towards the fan base. I just hope that James came to the conclusion by himself, not because of Justin's consult. I've also been following Cinemassacre since the beginning, I even had Cinemassacre's web page as my starter at some point in the 2000s.
Anyway, I think James made a mistake with the new toupee in the most recent upload (Ghostbusters Afterlife), for it seems the subreddit is going to focus on that now :P
@@Steambull1 I'm also not sure as to whether James came to the conclusion himself. My theory is that Mike or Ryan had a word with him that a change had to be made to keep the channel on track.
I really hope the plagiarism scandal was a wakeup call for James that he can't just phone everything in.
What happened? I've still not got the whole story...
@@donbrewer3904 Long story short is that someone found out that the first two episodes for Monster Madness 2021 contained lines lifted straight from other reviews.
@@immortaluglyfish2724 Gotcha!
@@donbrewer3904 I think the real fallout from it was the revelation that James had little no hand in monster madness - one of the last things he supposedly had passion for. So people are super upset getting this feeling that not only has James complained about his lack of time to do anything, the content people thought he was working on have him just voicing narration. It’s just hard to figure out what James’ motivations are these days. But to the OPs point - phoning things in can have major consequences beyond people thinking you are lazy - people take liberties with your reputation and can permanently affect it like Newt did to James. :(
@@MrSkeltal268ahh, so it upset those weirdos who solely make channels and "produce" content about other's. Here I am thinking it was something relevant.
I think the abysmal failure of the AVGN movie destroyed his passion. Now he's just going through the motions
I think it can be that or that 7 years of working on it burned him out to extreme levels, he was so stressed he literally started balding basically out of nowhere.
His psyche or whatever probably resents anything related to film making or AVGN
On what metric is it a failure?
@@unknownsword9042 Financially, creatively, quality-wise...
Why am I so interested in this is beyond me but, I can't stop watching this stuff. Also, you guys do solid work on all your content so, glad I like silly drama because I found gold here. Cheers from Canada dude's.
We all like to watch a ship sink.
People like watching a Trainwreck
Yeah.
Take a wild guess
Stop saying “content” it’s a trend and you know why you watch this cuz you’re interested in it shut up
I think the most entertaining thing about these videos to me (not to diminish the rest, because they're great overall) is just hearing people say this stuff in real life. Like hearing the contextual "take a wild guess" out loud is just too funny.
I lost my shit at “I have to go, Gengar needs me.” 😂
"Don't worry they're not going anywhere, they're just leaving" ROFL bro I almost spit out my coffee just now haha!
James Rolfe being afraid that if he doesn't upload constantly that he will lose everything kind of perplexes me when you look at Jontron. Jontron:
- uploads infrequently (even going on hiatus for so long at one point that his subreddit became a Scott the Woz board)
- completely changed the subject matter of his channel from video games to random things he talks about
- had a controversy where he said things that can be construed as racist
- continues to take sponsorships from Raid: Shadow Legends
He also has 2 Million+ more subs than Cinemassacre even though he himself was a fanboy of AVGN (and even appears on a couple Cinemassacre videos). This is anecdotal but I also hear constant buzz if there is a new Jontron video, but I only actually know 2 people irl that have even watched AVGN.
Hopefully the VHS video is James Rolfe realizing that people watch his channel for him so as long as he is actually creating the content himself his fans will support it. 5 AVGN videos a year is fine, as long as they're good AVGN videos.
Well, the things he said aren't "construed" as racist, they are fake "facts" that have been pushed on white nationalist websites for years and hit the mainstream right-wing political show after Trump was elected.
I feel like what people don't point out about JonTron is that, yes, he barely posts videos anymore, but it isn't because he puts all his effort into making bangers, it's because he's EVERYWHERE.
He basically transitioned into just being a celebrity who only does videos as a hobby, the reverse of AVGN, I think. Like, I see people go like "I miss JonTron so much and looking forward to him doing something again," the same week that a lot of trending videos and podcasts feature him in some capacity.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Does he still think America needs to stay white and that black people commit all the crime?
I waited for this video more than I waited for christmas presents as a kid.
You guys didn’t disappoint! FASCINATING seeing living humans discuss my favorite geek-shit which is hard to explain to other people.
I can't even begin to fathom how I would explain ANY of this to my gf.
Many excellent points Frankie. I just don't think James at this point is capable of putting in the work to continue to push out regular scheduled content. The "independent and unscripted content" will likely be few and far between, so I kind of wonder what ScreenWave will do to keep feeding the algorithm.
So James is pretty lazy? Is he just too busy with other things?
@@billsimms2511 It's tough to say for certain whether it's one or the other. Perhaps both? Frankie made a good point in the vid where they discussed the Behind the Scenes vid, said James seems to be the type of person that secretly prefers being "stuck in the problem", invents a backlog of busy work for himself when he should be pushing the tech problems onto screenwave and focusing his own time and energy more on resolving creativity problems. It's a good assessment, one that has resonated with me.
it was most definitely ryan implementing the changes to increase viewership and sponsor time.
now if they could just get erinplays to change that trite intro of hers
@@billsimms2511, possibly a real job and family time.
It's funny how nobody brings up that it could be his WIFE wanting to hoard his time.
9:39 Yeah, this is another one just like the Mike Matei leaving thing in the December 2020 update video where he just quickly announces it and brushes it off. Oh, and the wording here is fantastic.
I don't know why but I think the dude on the left has the funniest laugh. Like, it's really jolly and actually makes things funnier by laughing
i wonder if anyone around James has even mentioned Patreon as a viable option to him?
Let's be real, James has made enough money over the years that he is very comfortable, and clearly, he has lost a bit of the passion he had in the beginning, when they were tying to actually build this thing. He's obviously not interested in spending as much time and energy and he once did with this channel, and that's his right, since he's accomplished much of what he originally wanted to accomplish. As for the actual content...I think it's very clear that much of the charm that made the channel into the popular entity it became, was due to the input and direction of Mike. When Mike was producing...the show had a general feel of friends who were passionate about these subjects, and organically produced things that appealed to others who shared that passion. With Mike now gone...much of the charm is now gone. Now, it feels like they are just doing a 'job', as opposed to having fun. Most know that Mike was the 'actual' AVGN...and James simply played the role on camera...and it just worked. With Mike's input gone, it no longer really works. I don't blame James, or the Screenwave guys...you can't expect those guys to become Mike, and you can't expect James to keep the same passion, when his friends who he created this with are now gone, and it's become more of a job than a passion.
Then it's time to get a REAL job. But James rathers to milk every last cent from his fans giving them nothing but nostalgia or interesting. He couldn't even prepare 2 3 topics to talk about with 2 others for 40 45mins. Also I heard that they would film 3 podcast in one day. Guess James could be bothered to show up to the set 3 times a month
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq you seem awfully invested in someone's life that doesn't even know you exist.
I could listen to you guys goof on Cinemassacre for days.
It always felt inauthentic since they added the "slobs" to the formula. The last 2 videos felt really good. I think it's important for James to be behind the project for it to work out. At one time I really loved cinemassacre and it feels like what I used to like now.
Why doesn’t James just create a Patreon and charge only $5 a month with no tiers or content guarantees? That would definitely turn out as a financially viable pursuit for him and he could completely detach from Screen Wave. What a bummer.
James doesn’t want to have to make exclusive patreon content. That’s the reason he won’t do it
@@lstairvideos1330 he wouldn’t need to make exclusive Patreon content. It would just be an alternative income source than RUclips so he could release videos when he wants to rather than when he needs to generate more views and income.
@@reiddutchess9955 I’m just telling you that’s what his past editor, kiern, claimed. James didn’t want to do it as he didn’t want to do exclusive content or something along those liens
The VHS store video was really good, it felt like an introduction to the whole channel and there was genuine passion and emotion IMO.
Good insight, I find you empathise with him at times but also criticise you walk the line well looking in from the outside.
"It's only a matter of time before he quits" Well, yeah. I mean... Everything is that way. Eventually shit needs to end.
AVGN needs to end, or at the very least, drop down to a release every month or two, instead of bi-weekly. James needs to find his passion for low budget horror movies, and MAKE. ONE. That's what he always wanted to do. Don't tell me he doesn't have the resources.
He's made 6 AVGN episodes this year.
AVGN hasn’t even been monthly since 2013 i thought
He probably thinks movies can only be made in Hollywood. I think he had a bad time with his crap avgn movie.
If only we knew then that the big highlights we had to look forward to would be crap like the Rocky Mowtan video.
James Rolfe is a legendary man. He was a pioneer that started the first of the popular RUclips sub-sections (being the "angry reviewer" trope), and paved the way for the Let's Play channels that came later. In the golden age of AVGN his guerilla filmmaking was inspired and added a higher production value to his content that put him leagues above his peers, with his writing being funny but also very relatable as it came from a place of pure emotion.
Relatability carried James's appeal further, as his subtle passion when discussing things he enjoyed in series like Board James or Lookin' At Books made him so charming where other reviewers floundered when out of their elements. As he got older he lost the anger associated with his early days (which is a part of life and growing up, as well as the fact that he had exhausted most of the shittier games he played when he was a kid), but kept a lot of the likeability.
Screenwave has always been a parasite (look into Screenwave's business with Newgrounds, who they were doing business with prior to James), and since they latched on James has seemed less and less interested in the channel and content. I'm glad he is getting back to making his own content his own way. Hopefully one day Mike can come back too.
You chuckleheads are hilarious
Thank you for the thumbnail. I'll come back around.
I wonder if Mike will come back, even if on a part-time basis...
No time
Yeah I don’t know how it was received at large, but I actually really enjoyed James and Mike Mondays. It wasn’t the best let’s play series, but watching James and Mike struggle with a game and talk about random nonsense was something I always found entertaining. Hope that Mike comes back in some capacity, he was definitely a part of James’ success
James pops into stuff with Mike sometimes.
Mike does have a rather large part...
I'm a simple man. When I see RCE podcast clip discussing Cinemassacre, I click.
Howdy from Texas
I think the widespread personal attacks on James (and company) is the most off putting part of Cinemassacre truth. For example, repeatedly making fun of James hairline. To me, that’s mean spirited and actually takes away from the legit criticism that the channel has faced.
I will watch every video you make about Cinemassacre
Tony, Kieran and Justin on Hack the movies reviewing a spiderman 3, and they are talking about the guy who stole Peters photos as his own, and Kieren looks dead eyed into the camera and says "the guy stole work, and was a loser, and he got EFFING FIRED" i was like, dang that has to be about Newt
but Newt was a weirdo fttt, but he really grows on you. Tony too, tbh.
On Newts channel, his last couple of videos, he's been taking shots at the Screenwave guys (mainly Tony and Ryan)
What does he say?
@@RedCowArcade he was referring to one of his friends that looks like Tony, and he basically said that Tony has no talent
@@JamesJohnson-tr1gu Tony admitted in one of the last Hack the Movies videos that Newt was in the commercial of (he wasn't featured, but he did the ad) that if it was spoke on any of their channels it was a 9 out of 10 chance it was written by Newt. i think it's a bunch of BS. all youtubers rip each other off and talk about the same things over and over. they shoulda been a little easier on Newt. i think the slobs mainly needed a scapegoat. (or a sacrificial lamb)
@@mbrando4403 I feel like when he got fired, there was some kind of mandate not to mention Newt, and I think they basically told Crystal Quin that if she wanted to continue to be on hack the movies she would need to cut Newt off. Justin and Newt beens friends for like over 20 years, so I think Justin said I'm not going to stop being friends with him, which could explain Justin not being on Cinemasscre or Screenwave the last few months (just behind the scenes work)
Interesting developments a CM and RCA covering it I'm here for it🙏
The Mortal Kombat hat is sexy...
Take a wild guess
"Perhaps it's TIME... to talk about James Rolfe"
There was an update today! Can't wait.
Rolfe COULD do just three vids a year, IF he was still the guerilla filmmaker of the mid to late 2000s... but it is evident that's not the way to finance an idealistic family life, so he wanted his creation titled 'Cinemassacre' to take off as a franchise of which he'd be more like the boss than an active member. I would say why doesn't he pursuit his film making now that he's got money for financing, but i don't consider him a great filmmaker at all. He is into this done-on-purpose ultra 'B' likeable trash... only problem is, AVGN aside, non of it is likeable, ever. Questionable or downright hilariously bad decisions every step of the way still you gotta understand the guy he desperately looks for something that could serve as a stable platform for the rest of his active life cuz god knows how much longer the AVGN and some nostalgia can hold his roof up.
Yeah I love AVGN but remember watching his ‘movie’.. oh damn it was beyond awful. I remember thinking he’s best off going back to his RUclips career lol
@Sam Lombardo he went to college for it, movies were his passion growing up and he's made quite a few short films that you can see on the website. I will never understand someone viewing James like he's trying to be high and mighty in any way, the man is literally just sharing something that makes him happy ffs
i don't think he will even put out 3 vids a year. this many seems a stretch at this point
Where can I find the Reddit post of the guy who got fired?
6:48 If you do that again with an Australian accent you got me spot on.
I did in fact unsubscribe before it was cool. FYI.
Fair enough. I personally think it’s more fun to stay subscribed.
the first time i knew for sure he wasn't writing anymore was the plagiarism stuff, i wasn't watching AVGN that much at that point anyway i thought the new stuff was meh and now i know why, cause he didn't write it
I love your channel. We have the same sense of humor.
Frankie and EJ are so underrated!
How can you mock King Bimmy?He has no time to make RUclips videos(he’s made 500 movies ya know?)He is busy defending the hard 80s wood throne of Atlantis from invaders of the assholish variety.It takes someone special to find 5 four leaf clovers(five ov em!) and wear the heavy mortal kombat crown of Atlantis.Be careful not to anger the Bim or his caveman army will punch the garbage out of you.
I really hope James turn around coz it’s not easy to make videos with “contents” let along getting revenues
It’s def easier to be a tech reviewer getting millions of view for reviewing products while likely getting sponsorships especially reviewing apple or Samsung products
They can do the same thing over and over ( style, editing , even the words. “ this is the best iPhone/galaxy yet )
Don’t get me wrong it’s not easy making videos but in term of profitability and time , it is def harder to make videos such as avgn or any skits.
i like how you rip him a new one but then sew him back together and nurse him back to health
AVGN was best when it was James and Mike, he refuses to change his process, yet will hire all his less than competent friends to just complicate things more. It's hypocritical and antagonistic to blame the fans just for being sentient. He has created his entire world so it's nobody's fault but his.
HE FOUND THE TIME
E N V Y... at it's max! No matter how mamy justifications they make from time to time. Just one word describes it. E N V Y
in his new video, james rolfe's hair looked like it was combed by the caveman after justin gave the hair a flaming dutchoven while ryan uses his electrons to construct a porno like background music so james can get an idea how to start a film critic porno business.
I still go on the truth sub but yeah sometimes people on there are ridiculous and weird. I love the memes, but stuff like the posts speculating about his marriage, or hoping for the channel to burn is lame. Bimmy just needs to make some necessary changes, and get back to being full fcking force. Even if he takes his content in a different direction. As long as he's passionate about it. It's his job, afterall. Big Ryan fan btw
I’m addicted to this topic 😂
Aint jealousy a bitch!
I feel like for someone who loves campy movies and practical effects so much, the time, money and effort spent on trying to generate throwaway RUclips content could have gone toward producing more actual films, short and full feature (other than AVGN or Board James).
James just needs to make stuff he actually cares about. I don't care if he ever does AVGN again. I'd rather see him enjoy making something. Board James wasn't AVGN, but I'd argue that it was even better than AVGN at the time.
Red Cow Arcade interview James Rolfe-- make it happen!
First of all no time. Second of all they would be interviewers of the assholish variety
James needs to go back to basics, do 3 to 5 good AVGN videos a year with no slobs and get a real job to sustain his life
Quality over quantity
I actually really liked the podcast
I love your creativity
Jimmy Rolfe is a plagurising bum, but he saved my life
I have to go, Gengar needs me! 🤣
Kieran wore more of a Canadian two piece
suit lol
Honestly, I enjoy your channel a lot more than I enjoy Cinemassacre these days.
But here’s the funny part: I’m not really interested in half of the videos you put out (macaroni videos, cooking, ect.). But that’s fine. At least you guys are putting out content that you enjoy. Some of it isn’t my cup of tea, but some of ii is (movie talk, old consoles, ect).So kudos for being authentic. And you guys seem to genuinely have fun doing it so it’s fun to watch.
Glad to hear. That's why we have two channels! But the other channel has some great video game content, like JuntSNES, that I think you'd like!
Anyone have a link to the video there talking about here?
Which part exactly? The first part they’re just talking about the three part 200th episode released thruout December 2021 and January 2022. Then james talks on twitter about getting sick. Then he uploads again starting g in February or march.
The only other videos I know they’ve talked about is the BTS video. That was around 2021 before October and the plagiarism hit
The announcement is in a pinned comment on the "VHS Memories" video.
Was reaching to type the Poochie reference, then there it was
AVGN went down hill when James and Mike Mondays and Movie reviews went away.
James as if Mike mondays were great - I remember being shocked when they announced they were burned out on the show. I mean, how hard can doing that show be?
They are making changes because of this channel lol
You flatter us
@@RedCowEntertainment I knew you would find this funny.
I could believe it.
The views for Cinemassacre content are down pretty shockingly, if you check their stats on Social Blade. It's this channel covering all the controversy, other channels, the subreddit, people from the subreddit posting on Cinemassacre socials, it's all of it combined, plus the increasingly obvious drop in quality. You can't run from putting out subpar content forever.
Cinemassacre making good changes?
...
Take a wild guess.
Do you want me to suffer?
they could do the podcast without james, or cut it back to once a month. the funny thing is, the podcast isnt meant to be like, MASTERPIECE of ARTWORK or anything. its a few slobs and nerds talking into a microphone. and you know that going in. if you hate it that bad dont watch it. lol, but who cares. i dont see how his Gostbusters 4 is considered a "good change" it seems more boring than even the podcast thing.
One point made in this video I can agree with not just about Cinemassacre but any channel is too many uploads in a week generally causes me to unsubscribe. I knew the quality off and there were so many uploads that I unsubscribed from Cinemassacre a while ago. In some cases though, I unsubscribe if a channel has like an upload a day because it drives me nuts seeing too many notifications on the side when I look down the list.
I gonna sub to you guys
AVGN’ll be good again,I knows it
There's a groundswell of dislike growing for James. Why do you ask want him to suffer?
this might as well be a buddha's quote
Should have kept Mike and Bootsy around. Zero interest in the new crew or their opinions. I understand that James has a lot of responsibilities, including his family, but the overall quality of the content has definitely taken a dip. Bootsy could have taken over for James for "James and Mike Monday's", and Bootsy Beats would have been a great series if it had taken off.
Also, though this might be an unpopular opinion, regardless of how big a fan of movies James might be, his commentary on movies always comes across as generic and lacking any real insight into the craft.
Hey, I'm Justin
they had a decent show i liked to watch called talk about games with ryan and mike it. was pretty good i thought but it didn't last
Yeah It was one of the best modern shows from Cinemassacre. Because...they have passion while James has none.
It was lame and unwatchable.
* "stab the garbage out of your life"
I think the sub figured out he only worked like a week or two on the podcast over a 5 month period
I think that VHS nostalgia video is great, James reminded us why we started watching his channel 15 years ago. He left a big mark on my childhood and I will always be grateful for that.
These guys are very interesting and mostly on spot. The quality of the Cinemassacre drasticaly dropped a long time ago, but I kinda expected that tbh. The dude on the right is a bit too cynical, even though he makes some great points.
Most people enjoy downfalls of others and so do I, but I really can't go to the Cinemassacre truth on Reddit, very toxic people over there.
Cinemassacre making good changes?
take a wild guess.
WHO ARE THESE PODCAST has a great takedown about James' podcast.
Seriously, this is the best podcast that nobody watches.
Don't I know it!
@@RedCowEntertainment hey man if it's any consolation , you got a life long fan in me. I like watching a lot of your videos even the ones that are not avgn.
There's a very good reason no one watches it ....
It's garbage.
What makes it the best?
AVGN movie review when
Kieran said he'd stab the garbage out of people. Not very caveman-like.
So is James a pretty lazy guy? I mean, if he can’t make it to a podcast on a regular basis then I don’t know. I do remember him and Mike talking about how burned out they were doing ‘James and Mike mondays’ which to me was a bit comical - I mean they got together and played video games and commented along the way.
Yeah, being successful on RUclips is so easy!!
I’m waiting for your opinions on the newest AVGN episode 👀
I personally thought it was kinda boring and uninteresting and unfunny, but Mike doing Ernie's voice was pretty funny, particularly the cackle. I think that's all I have to say about it.
Wow trying to say something nice and still come off as smug pricks, love it.
Really sticking with our videos eh?
I’m glad you mentioned the cringe aspect of the video, for that was the weirdest moment on this channel - the slow nod to no one.
Patreon? So you want him to beg for money. Not a fan of Patreon.
That's where some people come to beg for money for extra content that other people can't see cause you have to be a paying subscriber. Patreon is such a sucky place to go to.
Have guys covered the Frosk G4tv Meltdown yet?
No, what's that?
@@RedCowEntertainment just RUclips”frosk Meltdown.” G4 got brought back from the dead and one of this hosts took a very loud stance in sexism in gaming. Too much to text out but I promise you this very interesting.
@@BigRed0059 while the Red Cow guys are good people, pretty sure they politically align with her rant and might even agree with it, so I doubt they'd cover it.
@@tola6327 fair enough.
@Nero I'm sure that's an accurate description that's not colored by your views.
Uhh if James starts a Patreon he'd get "help" making Patreon content he's unimaginably lazy.
12:26
Rental reviews wasn't that bad far better than the podcast and lasted AVGN videos
Ej is from Boston and has a valley girl accent?
What I cant wrap my head around a channel with 2.8k subs can in anyway judge a god tier channel like cinemassacre
Could his wife be the culprit?
I can’t say I hate Screenwave’s involvement with the Cinemassacre channel. I do think I prefer their Cinemassacre-adjacent content, though. Hack the Movies (with Tony) is entertaining. Talk About Games (with Mike and Ryan) might be my current favorite “simple format” gaming podcast. Ryan’s the co-founder and President of Screenwave and he seems like a cool guy.
Is he the peso, or just one of the lardballs?
I think the best of AVGN is the first 100 episodes. I think it started to be more commercial right when he switched over to HD. As I noticed the show had lost it's magic and felt more corporate when he started filming in HD.
Wow james bailing on friends.. haven't seen that b4..... I said it once ill say it a thousand times James is all about James
They aren't friends. They were co-workers, grow up.
It's funny how James became the subject he once hated. He chose not to review star wars but he became the new Kathleen kennedy: The subject he criticized, he became
Were u in the middle of pasting this comment somewhere else?
Everyone who thinks he's depressed is digging too deep lol. It's not a big deal, the dude does a lot more than most channels.