Why Did You Become Orthodox? - Dr. David Bradshaw
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- In this episode, Dr. David Bradshaw discusses his path to Orthodox Christianity.
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Hi. I’m russian orthodox and I really joy your videos. It’s really interesting to watch how people, who belong to other language culture, share their stories about becoming believers of faith which I belong too. And I realised that language border is just a formality: same cultural context, same arguments, same thoughts… - it’s really exciting: Christ literally unite people from all over us the world. Glory to you, our God, glory to you!
P. S. Sorry for my English, grammar is not perfect.(
Glory to God! Thanks for your comment!
At 3:20, “one should beware of beauty” as a Protestant belief: I am Protestant, and I think this is a helpful baseline presupposition to hold, because unlike truth and goodness, beauty is not an inherently trustworthy indicator of whether something is good or true. I would recommend “Beauty: A Very Short Introduction” by Roger Scruton in the Oxford series.
Thank you for posting this interview
Excellent interview! As Scriptures states, the Church is the pillar and ground of the Truth. ☦️
Respect fully n I really love listening to Dr. David Bradshaw.
I could've become Anglican or Oriental Orthodox. I like how the Orthodox Catholic Church has beautiful churches and emphasizes God's love over the unloving God many Protestants believe in.
Would you be willing to elucidate on that statement? I think it's fair to call myself a Protestant, but enjoy many teachings of the Orthodox Church.
@@Ahmathyah Orthodoxy is not a subset of teachings, it's the fullness of of God's revalation to mankind and has no errors in it's dogma and official teachings. Become Orthodox, you can't take part of Orthodoxy and fit it to your theology. Half pregnancy is not possible.
@@Ahmathyah I know not all Protestants believe in fatalism or a God who is angrier than loving. I do think it's rather silly to center one's worldview around protesting the RCC.
@@polyglotomathotheophilos1941 CS Lewis like Orthodoxy. It is possible to like our church without being in it. Look at the Coptic Orthodox.
@Jackson Andrew why didn't you become OO, if I may ask?
I really enjoyed Dr. Bradshaw's interview. Thank you for your work, Dr. Middleton! - Jerome Danner
I totally agree with him. Something organic. This is so inspiring! ❤
Thank you Dr Middleton. As always, another excellent video interview that has increased my faith both in inspiration and education.
Good sharing
I live in Montgomery and I attend the Church of the Annunciation in Montgomery that Dr. Bradshaw mentioned in this video. It made me smile to hear of someone who had attended my church in the past. I'll have to ask the older parish members about this. :)
Thank you!
God bless him!! 🙏❤
Why did you become Orthodox? Please share your story!
Hi, it is a rather long and convoluted story but I shall make it brief. Born Jewish, searching high and low, mostly low for Truth and Love😊 and ended up Eastern Orthodox. Baptized 21 yeas ago, belong to a ROCOR parish, feel like I won the lottery of Life
@@francinebotton2635 Glory to God...thank you for sharing!
I always wondered what Orthodox churches have to offer, and why would anyone ever convert deliberately to the Orthodox. I think I understand a bit more now
Thanks to God... come visit!
Very simple and meaningful explanation of his conversion! I too am a convert to Orthodoxy....God bless!
Thank you so much! I think the biggest stumbling blocks for me are the veneration of icons and praying to the saints and the dead. I’m curious how anyone coming from a Protestant background was able to reconcile these practices in light of what we’ve been taught in scripture as Protestants. Any books that anyone can recommend will also be greatly appreciated. 🙏🏽 Thank you.
As a former protestant who is soon to become a catechumen, I can tell you I'm not reconciling most of what I was taught by protestant churches with Orthodox teachings that contradict them. I have to be willing to accept that those teachings were at least partially if not completely wrong.
As per reading material, I'm currently reading "Welcome to the Orthodox Church: An Introduction to Eastern Christianity" by Frederica Mathewes-Green. As the name would suggest, it is an introduction and seems to be very good so far.
@@tacticalbacon7386 thank you so much. This is certainly a process and I need to trust that the Holy Spirit will guide me every step of the way…. So much to “ unlearn”! I appreciate how you say there just aren’t always ways to reconcile. The scriptures that address what the Protestant church teaches about veneration and worship have to be read with different lens I suppose…Thank you for the recommendation… I’m familiar with Frederica’s work by watching her on RUclips. I hope to read the book soon. God bless you🙏🏽
Saw your comment and it has reminded me of my struggle. I am also a new convert to Orthodoxy, after years of being an african evangelical protestant. Currently, I'm going through catechesis (2 classes so far) and the area of icons is one I have had to surrender myself to GOD completely, because I was raised to believe it was idol worship. My priest gave me the book, THE MYSTERY OF FAITH by Bishop Hilarion Alfayev, and I'm reading as if I was never a Christian before....especially on this issue.
@@Kathy12Ray Thank you…this is helpful. I guess that’s what it boils down to…. Looking at it with new lenses… and trusting the Holy Spirit to direct us every step of the way. He is , after all, the Spirit of TRUTH.🙏🏽😊
As a former Southern Baptist after I learned what icons were I had no problem whatsoever. There is ABSOLUTELY no worship of icons. We are in fact called to be icons of Christ in Romans 8:29-30 which states, “For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image (i.e. icon) of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.” Additionally, God gives grace to the humble but opposes the proud. When I see a halo around a saint’s head this indicates the presence of God’s grace in his or her life. For me, it teaches me that I am called to be a saint as is everyone who calls upon the name is Christ is called to be. We are called to be doers of the word not JUST hearers of the word. So a Saint is one who is humbled himself before God.
The longer I am Orthodox the more I am convinced that this was indeed the church that Jesus Christ founded. It has been a tremendous blessing in my life. Good luck I’m your journey. The Greek priest that I did my catechism class with in Tulsa ok was kind, patient and wonderful. Good luck on your journey.
I was baptized as a newborn. I wish I would have done that later or now .
Me too and i did have adult Baptism 20 yrs when i became born again since i understood ftom Holy Scripture this is of our Christian Faith.
@@anastasiadare9231 , 1-the Holy Spirit through Scripture teaches that "For the promise is for you, for your children, and for all who are far away, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to him" Acts 2:39
2- the Holy Spirit through Scripture teaches that: "And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you" 1 Peter 3:21
2-The spirit of Martin Luther taught that "we are saved by faith alone" Luther 2:24
Catholics and Easter Orthodox Christians rather believe Scripture. Protestants rather believe Luther's faith alone tradition.
@@Alfredo8059 Ephesians 2 8,9 & 10 salvation is a work grace. Some only read verses 8 & 9 but if you read verse 10 you get balance and the full picture.
@@paulathomas.graham7693 , that is right, salvation is a work grace
As you say some only read verses 8 & 9, but if we read verses 5-10 we get balance and the full picture: " Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus". The word quicken is used in the King James Version of the Bible, and it means “revive or make alive.” If something is living, it is “quick”; to “quicken” something is to bring it to life or restore it to a former flourishing condition. Faith was NEVER alone. " And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." 1 Cor. 13:13
Faith Alone (without charity) is nothing ( 1 Cor. 13:2)
Does he mean eastern or oriental orthodox?
He meant Greek...so it belongs to the Patriarch of Constantinople, All Orthodox Churches follow Constantinople - the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire after the Great 1054 Schizma.
Oriental means Eastern
" Oriental: relating to the countries of East and Southeast Asia" Cambridge Dictionary
He is “eastern orthodox”. The answers above were all rather incorrect. The “oriental orthodox” refer to the non Chalcedonian Monophysite churches that claim to hold more firmly to Cyrillian Christology. Also, the oriental “orthodox” broke away from the church that encompassed both east and west, so it’s not like some sort of schism within “orthodoxy” like Protestantism is a break up of the papist western church. This question has become a form of apologetic “gotcha” by papist catholics lately, but they ignore that the question can be reversed and the papists can be asked “which Catholic Church” do they mean? All mainline Protestants recite the creed as them being one holy Catholic and apostolic. So does the other heretical orthodox sects like Nestorians (some of whom they now commune with under the title of their eastern Catholic sui juris churches, in which they elevate two heretics including Nestorius, who was as blatant and intransigent heretic as there ever was).
To answer simply, Eastern Orthodox.
I'm Catholic, but I can definitely agree with your viewpoints about Protestantism. We'd likely share very similar beliefs and opinions. Were it not for the schism, we'd be on the same page. Speaking of politics, it's really that very thing that divides the Catholics and Orthodox. We even both recite the same Nicean Crede.
It's not that simple. We differ much in our spirituality too, a whole lot of differences, at that. Ever heard about prelest? Theosis? About the creed, there's this "Filioque" thing. Don't forget about papal supremacy as well.
I am sorry but you have been lied to by omission if not by direct lies. The West was alone behind the schism which they justified by wrongful accusations which they were in fact themselves guilty of and in by doing so condemned themselves. There are also countless forgeries which the Latins produced to justify their schism, used no less than by 13 popes and your saints like Aquinas, Peter Damian etc. Doesn't your church claim that Aquinas had angels and the Apostles whispering in his ears..? How come his "Against the Greeks" are almost completely based on forgeries?
Also the theology of Aquinas and Palamas (the latter traces back through the Cappedocians and to St Paul himself) are not compatible. As the East is committed to Palamas and the west to Aquinas, there will be no reunion.
You are in both heresy and schism Scott. If you want to stop being that you have to come back to mother Church. There is no other way.
We recite a different creed. The West changed the Creed, adding the clause that the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father "and the Son". We have Saints like St Photius and St Mark of Ephesus that call this an evil heresy so there's really no compromise to be had on it for us.
@@paisios2541 The filioque issue, of course. It's been a point of contention between us for centuries. None the less, I pray for us.
@@scott6504 we don't see it just as a "point of contention". We very much don't believe that theology is something that men invent. Theology is what God reveals to us for us to understand Him and any falsehood and departure from true theology is unacceptable. For us, the filioque is simply something that is humanly invented and is not true about God, and so it's unacceptable. It's not something that can be negotiable or worked out.
Orthodox and Sunday worship... no
Hello, Sunday worship for Christians is in the New Testament! What is your religious authority?
@@lornadoone8887 it doesn’t mean that Sunday laws should implemented by law like Constantine did under civil penalties… no man should dictate what another’s duty is toward God
@@rhb30001 the Church is the authority that Christ put in place.
@@TyrannicalReigner Paul stated clearly to not esteem one day above another and judge others concerning this period… you sabotage that clear teaching. Do you feel that the so called church should teach otherwise?
@@rhb30001 The Church is the authority Christ put in place.