naw the gears are selected by pulleys and shit those shavings don't mean much, at least not from what I learned after digging into a 14' jeep Patriot after a trans fail. ended up just buying my wife a whole new car! never again will I buy anything with a CVT
I actually commented the same exact thing. Its so unprofessional and just shows exactly why people just work on their own cars. People nowadays have absolutely zero trust in mechanics nowadays and i dont blame them. I literally will never ever take my car to a mechanic for any type of fluid change. And this is the exact reason why. These two guys could literally give two shits about anyones car. They are both there just waiting to get paid. Its not their car so they dont care, thats the attitude these young punks have. I don’t recommend anyone going to this shop. Laughing about someones transmission dying?? Absolutely sick.
When I was a tech at Nissan we all did like one to 2 cvt swaps a week. All warranty time so they didn't pay well lol it got to the point where the foreman (who was also the dispatch) had us pull straws after we all did our 2 for the week to see who'd get the next one 😅
Oh man, I owned a Murano for almost 10yrs. Went through two transmissions and also owned a Spec V that lost compression due to pre-cat failure. After owning Nissans exclusively since 97, I’ll never go back til they stop the madness.
Now they have variable compression ratios to go along with the variable trany. It drives the car testers crazy all the vehicle searching for a little extra fuel economy. Hybrid is the way to go. Let the electric stuff handle the mundane and the gas engine can assist as needed.
Even older automatics do better than these newer, higher tech autos. We're doing worse at designing these things. I shouldn't say that, they are designed probably how they want them to be, costly after warranty.
For those not aware, that is VERY dark for CVT(HCF2) fluid. In Hondas, the CVT fluid does not get pitch black like traditional ATF does. Doing drain and fills every 30-50k and making sure the Transmission module is up to date will dramatically increase the life of the transmission. I say this as a Honda Tech with 10 years Experience.
@@stormierbody8419 It's only lifetime sealed if the owner chooses not to service it. I have seen those types of warnings on other makes and models, but never on a Honda transmission, as of posting this.
Hondas have always had drain plugs if the brand of car you're looking at doesn't have one or no pan you can take off avoid buying it@@stormierbody8419
@@dennisbagatin4480 The only way to know for sure is to hook it up to a computer with right software and check that the computer is up to date. I haven't personally seen any issues on those specific Civics transmissions or had to update them.
@@hondanazi4246facts looking at this transmission and a roller cam and lifter setup for my 92 sierra. Will have to cut the drive shaft, and flash an ecu to get the electrical shifting mebobers to get going properly. Mainly looking at this combo for the 4 speed od and the reliability of a 383 stroker engine
Got a a518 in my custom 12 valve swap 2005 got a rev max converter etc. I basically believe 727 one of the best out there for low power builds for reliability the rest is what it is a slow shifting odd feeling transmission but man they are reliable I got the 727 with od tv throttle shift I got it out of a field with water in it cleaned it real good and drove it from Texas to co I live here now and I got a modded 12 valve motor with headstuds and a big turbo eventually the 727 is Simple enough I’m going it rebuild it myself one day. You can build it to hold 700hp damn near under 2gs not many trans are doing that and are very simple with no computers etc
The car manufacturers. Are going to build what gives the maximum. Mile per gallon. As EPA standards, keep tightening up. CVT’s are able to provide the best MPG’s currently. I believe Subaru is discontinuing. Manual transmissions. Even on the WRX models.
@@randyduncan795 It’s going to be kind of hard. To avoid owning a CVT in the future. It’s like the mid 1980’s. When rear wheel drive models were being replaced by. Front wheel drive models with transverse engines. People were resistant to the changes. The Corolla was a rear drive model. Until around 1986. Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Hyundai, kia, Nissan, and Ford hybrids. To name a few. Are all CVT’s. That is just the reality of the times we now live in. Just like the engines designed for OW-20. That might have oil consumption. Or oil dilution problems. The car manufacturers will just declare what is acceptable. And within their manufacturer’s specifications.
Those are ecvt. The tech inside them is totally different than the traditional cvt. Ecvt has a electric motor generator and the engine acts as a generator and runs the motor during acceleration from stop. After getting upto speed the fixed gear engages and the engine directly drives the wheel. This also makes implementation of hybrid system super simple as you just have to add a battery between the motor generator & drive motor. Toyota pioneered this technology and they are way ahead of the competition for years. These ecvt's require less maintenance than regular manual transmission. They have been developing this tech for almost 2 decades.
@@ericdarmawan9504 really cuz I replaced my cousins CVT at 52,000 miles on a 2018 Corolla which is wayyyy more difficult to replace then most Nissans I’d like to add. Found out there is a bulletin for it along for multiple CVT’s from Toyota. Honda is not safe from it either their belt assemblies come apart. Now this doesn’t apply to all Toyotas or All Hondas. But I stand by what I said. NO ONE IS SAFE FROM CVT’s
My 15 year old accord sedan v6 is more reliable than the brand new stuff theyre selling.1.5L turbos and hybrids get better fuel economy but the savings are wasted at the mechanic
I have a nissan altima with a cvt thats going out. Its moves and goes in gear but doesn't gove over like a mile an hour. It a car i inherited so its free. Is it worth fixing. The engine is solid
@C.A. Nations I heard there was going to be a class action lawsuit against Nissan over that, but not sure If iT took off. If the car is in good shape, price out a rebuilt transmission. Then decide if it's worth it or buying a nice newer car.
Most hondas thats what they have used for years specially on manuals. No socket just the wrench. Not like a nut where it can strip this is very hard to strip.
@@powar7746 considering that most Nissan CVTs blow up on the regular straight out of the factory new then yea I blame CVT. Far easier to break than other types. Plus they’re sluggish on start.
@@TheCrystalGlowsounds like you need to learn that not every cvt is a missan cvt trans. There are multiple companies that make things. Honda makes amazing 2.0 L 4 cylinder engines. But they don’t make their own transmissions, and you need to maintain them.
Hard to find too bc the manufacturers know that there's less customers for them. I'm actually looking for an old small truck s10/ranger size even in a truck like that they're hard to find. Easier to work on and cheaper. Another reason manufacturers went away from them.
Born in 52 I know how to drive stick including "3 on the tree" plus double clutching. Unless I'm doing Mountain driving and / or live way out in the desert, I prefer an automatic transmission any day of the week. Take care and drive safe. DocW
Problem is the new kids nowadays are a new kind of stupid. Most don’t even know how to drive an auto. In my neighborhood we have some driving instructors that can’t park within 12” of the curb or understand what the 2 and 1 are on the shift selector. Actually even have trouble with the English language.
CVTs are great until they aren't 😅. He could have had great fuel economy with a manual transmission and not have any issues. But nooo people have problem shifting their own gears.
they do, but also compounding the problem is they put cvts in progressively heavier cars, without the correspondingly stronger internals, at least on Nissan
To be honest, it's not totally wrong to think that. One administration wants more regulations costing the companies more money therefore they cut costs to keep profit the same and one side cuts regulations making total cost cheaper leading to lower prices and same or better quality.@@christopher6895
I just bought a Civic Hybrid with a bad CVT and replaced the CVT with a working one. Apparently, they can go 300k+ miles, but you have to change the fluid every 30k miles (per the manual), and the fluid is expensive. Most people don't do that, so many of them don't last long
My local Honda dealer sells the fluid for $15/quart. Drain and fill requires 4 quarts. With a 30k change interval, that might be every 18-24 months. $60 over the course of 18-24 months isn’t asking too much.
@@edmondlau511you are just quoting the price of fluid not the service 😂 even at the lube shops the cvt is atleast $220 and at dealership it's even extra.
I am a Toyota tech. Other than the CHRs, I’ve rarely seen issues with our CVTs. The vast majority of them will get over 100,000 miles without any problems. I’ve heard other brands are different but not all CVTs are complete trash.
But stop and go traffic becomes miserable in a manual. Plus you have to worry about clutch replacement. And money shifting. And accelerating slower than automatics
So after buying a used Nissan Murano with a CVT I asked the manager of the repair business that I've been going to for years and years even bought him and his family breakfast one Sunday morning because he's done such a great job for me go to pick up the car look at the receipt and he's never changed the fluid in the transmission six months later he tells me when I have my car limped into his shop tells me the job will be $7,000 to replace it really heartbreaking I had the money to have the transmission fluid changed but I did not have the money to change the transmission now my son-in-law warn me on these Transmissions
Lol don’t use this as a way to think CVTs are unreliable. Honda and Toyota CVTs have very little issues if any. Most of the time it’s because of the owners who don’t change the transmission fluid. Of course time from time there will be a bad egg.
as a Honda Technician working for Honda, I can Confirm that,... ALL HONDAS FROM 2015+ are GARBAGE, CVT's fail regular basis, even the new Type R has camshaft problems and all Earth Dreams have injector and timing problems dont get me started on the 2022 civics/hybrids either,... those cant even handle a minor front-end fender bender without compromizing the brake master cylinder which is mounted behind the passenger headlight on the frame rail rendering the car undriveable
Look at how these pigs think someone’s misfortune is funny. And they’re going to fix it in an hour and because the flat rate manual says it takes four hours, they’re going to steal from the customer and charge them for four hours. Isn’t that something?
Probably did something to the gear selector I know the DSL are easy to switch between so imagine at highway speed instead of selecting Sports you go to Low.. the paddle shiter gear boxes don't have L
You have conventional automatics, and dual clutch automatics(a manual transmission that is shifted automatically). These two types are more reliable than the cvt.
Mechanic: Good news, bad news, which one you one first. Customer: Bad news! Mechanic: Well, your transmission is jacked and it will cost you $8,000, but the good news we were able to save the drain plug.
Imagine walking into the waiting room with that drain plug and handing it to the customer and telling them that it's the only thing left of their transmission that's good...
I use amsoil CVT fluid on my 2020 honda civic sport 2.0. I change my CVT fluid and filters every 30,000 miles. I have 66,000 miles on my civic and i have no issues.
CVT’s are crap. Car manufacturers please go back to 5-10 speed automatic transmission for the love of all things good. Edit: And keep making internal combustion engine cars
I changed the fluid on the 2015 altima every 30 k miles and it lasted me 150k before i sold it for 10k during covid…. I really miss it….astonishing on fuel!!!
Cage??? The hell you talking about? How many miles were on it? Did it have any changes before? I hate people who dump their problems onto others like you. Karma will catch up to you one of these days bruh
I’ve been working on passenger cars and heavy trucks for more years than I can count. From my experience on CVT transmissions. I’d never buy a vehicle that has one. The smoothness of the ride and being able to go 120 mph in reverse isn’t worth the problems they always have. If you have a heavy foot and are known to shift from reverse to drive without coming to a complete stop, don’t buy any vehicle with one. It’s gonna break.
Honda’s CVT design is very solid. The only time I see these things fail is when folks abuse the hell out of them. & people today are so silly to never service their transmissions
So this person, your customer, is going to have a very expensive repair that maybe they can't afford and it's funny to you! Hopefully all your other customers will see this and go somewhere else
Bogus when you see a shop you took it to so they have help you and they are laughing at you and joking about how it will be expensive instead of thinking of ways to save you some coin.
Toyota and Honda make really durable and reliable vehicles that can outlast American cars but those cvt trans are complete garbage and should not be allowed on any car brand
oems should be held responsible for over engineering. hr-v and toyota pos ch-r would cost someone 10000 to replace trans, used is almost same price. if you wanna piss people off thats the way to do it
KEY POINT: Change the CVT trans fluid & filter every 30k miles with the correct, OEM fluid! My wife drives a '17 Nissan Rogue (over 100k miles now) with the crappy CVT.... but it still operates like new thanks to fluid and filter changes every 30k miles. I'm meticulous when it comes to maintenance... and that makes a huge difference... now not to say that it may fail at some point... but I'm fighting it all the way!
I had one of those and the cvt crapped out @78k. Left me in the middle of the road. The car wouldn't move until it cooled down. I was just glad I was on a side street when it happened. This car had all its maintenance done on time and was driven 95% hwy miles, and it still happened. Guy at the dealer said he done one that only had 900 miles on it, so i think it's not necessarily a maintenance issue, but more of a design issue.
I’m going to lose an auto trans due to not servicing it every 30k miles like the manual said. I first serviced it at 120k miles. It was already too late. It fixed the rough shifting issue but six months later, it started to slip. This video is a reminder that transmissions are not meant to be neglected. There are a lot of great transmissions out there, but the owners neglect them, so they get a bad rep they don’t deserve. Some transmissions are overbuilt, regardless of them being neglected or not, they generally will last anyway. Some are reliable but not overbuilt, where if you do neglect it, the transmission will fail early but if you take care of it, it will last a long time. Then you have unreliable transmissions where it doesn’t matter whether you service it or not, it will fail early.
Try lucas transmission stop slip, Ford Type F, and even Tractor Hydraulic Oil as last ditch measures to save the car. Also change the filter. Plugged filters lead to low line pressure that keeps the clutches and bands from fully engaging.
A lot of cat makers use CVTs as a cheap way to meet emissions standards. Subaru started putting them in everything because they can’t make gas efficient engines lol.
Gotta look at the positives. At least the drain plug is still good
And the pan don't forget about the pan! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
It should be fine now that you got all those broken metal pieces out of there.
naw the gears are selected by pulleys and shit those shavings don't mean much, at least not from what I learned after digging into a 14' jeep Patriot after a trans fail. ended up just buying my wife a whole new car! never again will I buy anything with a CVT
@living to fish 000000
Just little Break in metal good to go 👍 👌
😂
@@puprilla honda, Toyota and Subaru CVTs are fine. As long as you have a brain and change the oil with the correct one every 50k or so.
Glad you think it's funny dude. Something like this could be crippling for a family.
Right and they laughing about 😅
I swear they think it’s funny when this shit can turn a whole family year around
Don't blame the mechanic, blame the government that is using EPA fuel economy regulations to force these things on us.
I actually commented the same exact thing. Its so unprofessional and just shows exactly why people just work on their own cars. People nowadays have absolutely zero trust in mechanics nowadays and i dont blame them. I literally will never ever take my car to a mechanic for any type of fluid change. And this is the exact reason why. These two guys could literally give two shits about anyones car. They are both there just waiting to get paid. Its not their car so they dont care, thats the attitude these young punks have. I don’t recommend anyone going to this shop. Laughing about someones transmission dying?? Absolutely sick.
When I was a tech at Nissan we all did like one to 2 cvt swaps a week. All warranty time so they didn't pay well lol it got to the point where the foreman (who was also the dispatch) had us pull straws after we all did our 2 for the week to see who'd get the next one 😅
Techs get paid their normal wages?
Oh man, I owned a Murano for almost 10yrs. Went through two transmissions and also owned a Spec V that lost compression due to pre-cat failure. After owning Nissans exclusively since 97, I’ll never go back til they stop the madness.
@PRIMERA Yes you are right Nissan quality has dropped during the last decade
@@primeradriver you mean since (meaning you still own) or until 97?
Now they have variable compression ratios to go along with the variable trany. It drives the car testers crazy all the vehicle searching for a little extra fuel economy. Hybrid is the way to go. Let the electric stuff handle the mundane and the gas engine can assist as needed.
Nothing like laughing at someone else's misery.
Laughing at the tough day they’re about to have
Yeah I agree
I hope they brought there check book???
Wow
@@hahahahaha7069 You must be a women. Men use humor much differently than you do
😭😭
He's true with the checkbook part. My Honda jazz (fit) needs a new intermediate cvt plate £7500 absolute robbery
And they say 'manuals are dead', I say manuals keep moving when other transmissions die.
Yep. Blow out 3rd gear? Skip 3rd gear.
Even older automatics do better than these newer, higher tech autos. We're doing worse at designing these things. I shouldn't say that, they are designed probably how they want them to be, costly after warranty.
Agree 100%
Ikr!! My 22 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4X4 off-road has a 6-speed manual transmission! Way more reliable than automatic transmission imo & way more simple
They should just fit the ZF8 to every car.
For those not aware, that is VERY dark for CVT(HCF2) fluid. In Hondas, the CVT fluid does not get pitch black like traditional ATF does. Doing drain and fills every 30-50k and making sure the Transmission module is up to date will dramatically increase the life of the transmission. I say this as a Honda Tech with 10 years Experience.
What about the supposed “life time sealed cvt” mainly in the earth dream equipped models
@@stormierbody8419 It's only lifetime sealed if the owner chooses not to service it. I have seen those types of warnings on other makes and models, but never on a Honda transmission, as of posting this.
Hondas have always had drain plugs if the brand of car you're looking at doesn't have one or no pan you can take off avoid buying it@@stormierbody8419
Hey there I got a 2021 civic ex do I have to update module?
@@dennisbagatin4480 The only way to know for sure is to hook it up to a computer with right software and check that the computer is up to date. I haven't personally seen any issues on those specific Civics transmissions or had to update them.
Continuously Vulnerable Transmission
6 speed 8 speed and ecvt are way better designs if we are soley talking transmission alone
I had a auto 727 torque flight in a mopar for 60 years and used it very hard its still going strong, nothing but change fluid
your talking about one of the best made transmissions in the last 40 yrs
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@@hondanazi4246facts looking at this transmission and a roller cam and lifter setup for my 92 sierra. Will have to cut the drive shaft, and flash an ecu to get the electrical shifting mebobers to get going properly. Mainly looking at this combo for the 4 speed od and the reliability of a 383 stroker engine
Long tail I literally bench pressed one onto a 64 new Yorker in my driveway in the winter flex plate bolts good times
Got a a518 in my custom 12 valve swap 2005 got a rev max converter etc. I basically believe 727 one of the best out there for low power builds for reliability the rest is what it is a slow shifting odd feeling transmission but man they are reliable I got the 727 with od tv throttle shift I got it out of a field with water in it cleaned it real good and drove it from Texas to co I live here now and I got a modded 12 valve motor with headstuds and a big turbo eventually the 727 is Simple enough I’m going it rebuild it myself one day. You can build it to hold 700hp damn near under 2gs not many trans are doing that and are very simple with no computers etc
But CVTs are the latest and greatest! And we don't care what the customer wants, we're gonna build what we want to!
Idk about latest. I have one that's over 30 years old
The car manufacturers. Are going to build what gives the maximum. Mile per gallon. As EPA standards, keep tightening up. CVT’s are able to provide the best MPG’s currently. I believe Subaru is discontinuing. Manual transmissions. Even on the WRX models.
@@sksjustice7693 then why are the tcm for the modern cvt programmed to simulate a less efficient 4eat instead of running the way a cvt is designed? 😂
@@sksjustice7693 Sounds like a great reason to discontinue Subaru.
@@randyduncan795 It’s going to be kind of hard. To avoid owning a CVT in the future. It’s like the mid 1980’s. When rear wheel drive models were being replaced by. Front wheel drive models with transverse engines. People were resistant to the changes. The Corolla was a rear drive model. Until around 1986. Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Hyundai, kia, Nissan, and Ford hybrids. To name a few. Are all CVT’s. That is just the reality of the times we now live in. Just like the engines designed for OW-20. That might have oil consumption. Or oil dilution problems. The car manufacturers will just declare what is acceptable. And within their manufacturer’s specifications.
My life everyday when I was at Nissan for 5 years 😂😂
This is why I switched from Honda to Mazda.
CVT--Cheap Valueless Transmission
Most still have valvebody's with linear solenoids which are basically solenoids with valves built in...
@@justicemcdonald2939 valUeless not valVeless
Oooh, ddduuuude
Toyota's own CVT holds up as well as their clutch types and also provides normal acceleration from a stop.
They're a different 'animal'
That 'starter' gear is genius.
Hyundai's newer IVT transmission do the same. Really like it in my wife's '22 Elantra
I've seen the Prius ones last 300K.
@@tac79phoenix I don't trust Hyundai/kias reliability they've got quite the road go and fixing their reputation
Those are ecvt. The tech inside them is totally different than the traditional cvt.
Ecvt has a electric motor generator and the engine acts as a generator and runs the motor during acceleration from stop. After getting upto speed the fixed gear engages and the engine directly drives the wheel. This also makes implementation of hybrid system super simple as you just have to add a battery between the motor generator & drive motor.
Toyota pioneered this technology and they are way ahead of the competition for years.
These ecvt's require less maintenance than regular manual transmission. They have been developing this tech for almost 2 decades.
Real shop talk lol. “Hope they brought their checkbook”
No one is safe from CVT’s
Those that drive manual transmissions are!
@@GL0697 amen to that 🙏🏼
Actually Toyota and Honda did the best job in CVT if they could maintain their vehicle as well
@@ericdarmawan9504 really cuz I replaced my cousins CVT at 52,000 miles on a 2018 Corolla which is wayyyy more difficult to replace then most Nissans I’d like to add. Found out there is a bulletin for it along for multiple CVT’s from Toyota. Honda is not safe from it either their belt assemblies come apart. Now this doesn’t apply to all Toyotas or All Hondas. But I stand by what I said. NO ONE IS SAFE FROM CVT’s
Replaced my cvt in a maxima... cost 5200...smh
It’s lucky Honda fitted a magnet to stop those bits getting into the gears.
What gears? CVT
@@richardahola692there are still gears on CVT's lol
@@staidey5994No
Do not buy a car with a CVT
My 15 year old accord sedan v6 is more reliable than the brand new stuff theyre selling.1.5L turbos and hybrids get better fuel economy but the savings are wasted at the mechanic
Don’t buy anything with a CVT belt. Chains are much better.
I have a nissan altima with a cvt thats going out. Its moves and goes in gear but doesn't gove over like a mile an hour. It a car i inherited so its free. Is it worth fixing. The engine is solid
@C.A. Nations I heard there was going to be a class action lawsuit against Nissan over that, but not sure If iT took off. If the car is in good shape, price out a rebuilt transmission. Then decide if it's worth it or buying a nice newer car.
@@c.a.nationwide manual swap bro fuck that cvt shit
It would be nice if all drain plugs were a 3/8 square like that one... No socket just, the socket wrench.
Seriously… on one hand they’re geniuses for doing so. On another they’re dumb asses for making a CVT transmission. 😂
This just makes too much damn sense!!
Most hondas thats what they have used for years specially on manuals. No socket just the wrench. Not like a nut where it can strip this is very hard to strip.
This is why I will absolutely NEVER own any CVT. Ever… they all do this eventually.
The ecvt in my 91 justy is still going strong lol
I'm willing to bet that cvt has never had it's fluid changed 💀 so blame the owner not the cvt lol
@@powar7746 considering that most Nissan CVTs blow up on the regular straight out of the factory new then yea I blame CVT. Far easier to break than other types. Plus they’re sluggish on start.
@@TheCrystalGlowsounds like you need to learn that not every cvt is a missan cvt trans. There are multiple companies that make things. Honda makes amazing 2.0 L 4 cylinder engines. But they don’t make their own transmissions, and you need to maintain them.
@@Razorslash312Honda makes their own transmissions just like Toyota
Many comments about get a manual trans. The problem is most people can’t drive a manual and barely operate an auto.
Hard to find too bc the manufacturers know that there's less customers for them.
I'm actually looking for an old small truck s10/ranger size even in a truck like that they're hard to find. Easier to work on and cheaper. Another reason manufacturers went away from them.
Born in 52 I know how to drive stick including "3 on the tree" plus double clutching. Unless I'm doing Mountain driving and / or live way out in the desert, I prefer an automatic transmission any day of the week.
Take care and drive safe.
DocW
Problem is the new kids nowadays are a new kind of stupid. Most don’t even know how to drive an auto. In my neighborhood we have some driving instructors that can’t park within 12” of the curb or understand what the 2 and 1 are on the shift selector. Actually even have trouble with the English language.
CVTs are great until they aren't 😅. He could have had great fuel economy with a manual transmission and not have any issues. But nooo people have problem shifting their own gears.
My 03 Honda’s CVT still going strong 160K miles in, it’s like every year they find more corners to cut
they do, but also compounding the problem is they put cvts in progressively heavier cars, without the correspondingly stronger internals, at least on Nissan
@user-gz9tq9fo5bholy tinfoil hat 😂
Imagine thinking a political party has something to do with vehicle transmissions lmfao
To be honest, it's not totally wrong to think that. One administration wants more regulations costing the companies more money therefore they cut costs to keep profit the same and one side cuts regulations making total cost cheaper leading to lower prices and same or better quality.@@christopher6895
I just bought a Civic Hybrid with a bad CVT and replaced the CVT with a working one. Apparently, they can go 300k+ miles, but you have to change the fluid every 30k miles (per the manual), and the fluid is expensive. Most people don't do that, so many of them don't last long
Yes but the CVT needs more air/ cooling flow. Why the manufacturer do not do it baffles me. Heat kills it.
My local Honda dealer sells the fluid for $15/quart. Drain and fill requires 4 quarts. With a 30k change interval, that might be every 18-24 months. $60 over the course of 18-24 months isn’t asking too much.
@@edmondlau511you are just quoting the price of fluid not the service 😂 even at the lube shops the cvt is atleast $220 and at dealership it's even extra.
My wife's got an 18 murano that I worry about constantly😓
My sister has a newer Rogue & I'm hoping for a catastrophic failure
Sell that shit!
It will eventually fail. Honda Toyota and Subaru make some what better cvt's Nissan is the worst of the top
Change the fluid every 30K miles, maybe that way could survive a little bit more
Murano is a cheap overpriced shitbox. If someone gave me one i would sell it
Laugh now, 'cause the customer wants it fixed and the service manager assigned it to you.
No CVTs for me. A regular automatic, or better yet, a manual. The ultimate anti-theft device!
Manuals are great until an idiot money shifts it. Weve got more than ever running around too
Unless the thief decides to learn on your car and abandons it after crunching a few gears and no money shifting it.
change the fluid regularly don't abuse them and the post 2016 honda cvt's last ...
Except now the post 16 hondas have oil dilution due to low compression rings and 1.5 turbo.
I am a Toyota tech. Other than the CHRs, I’ve rarely seen issues with our CVTs. The vast majority of them will get over 100,000 miles without any problems. I’ve heard other brands are different but not all CVTs are complete trash.
Buy manual transmission only
Or they just dump the cvt for a decent automatic... who dares to buy a used cvt car with 100k miles... prob people who doesn´t know better...
But stop and go traffic becomes miserable in a manual. Plus you have to worry about clutch replacement. And money shifting. And accelerating slower than automatics
CVT's fail due to lack of fluid change, They need a fluid change every 30k miles, if done they should last the life of the engine
That why I buy manual transmission.
They wont let you get a real one anymore bro. They lie and give you a shifter connected to a computer. Theyre idiots
That is becoming a hard to find option. It is a perfect example of planned obsolescence.
Don't like CVT's don't like snowmobile parts in cars.
Actual snowmobile drive system might be an improvement. Be aware that many stock snowmobile engines make nearly 200hp... (800cc class).
@@walterk1221 yeah I know and it's not complicated, good point Brother.
See what happens when you put a golf cart inspired transmission in a vehicle.
Moped inspired I hear.
So after buying a used Nissan Murano with a CVT I asked the manager of the repair business that I've been going to for years and years even bought him and his family breakfast one Sunday morning because he's done such a great job for me go to pick up the car look at the receipt and he's never changed the fluid in the transmission six months later he tells me when I have my car limped into his shop tells me the job will be $7,000 to replace it really heartbreaking I had the money to have the transmission fluid changed but I did not have the money to change the transmission now my son-in-law warn me on these Transmissions
🥲
I have a mech/garage next to my shop and in 2 yrs I've seen them total 3 nissans over the POS CVT.
Damn shame how sorry those cvt's are
2012 prius , I have 400,000 miles on my cvt trans. Change trans fluid every 60,000 miles. Works fine.
I do hear, Honda makes a less reliable cvt.
Lol don’t use this as a way to think CVTs are unreliable. Honda and Toyota CVTs have very little issues if any. Most of the time it’s because of the owners who don’t change the transmission fluid. Of course time from time there will be a bad egg.
@Aaron Johnson Toyota uses a planetary CVT it doesn't use a belt
@David Aix metal fiber- woven chain link belt. They last forever, and now I blame you because it will now probably break! 🤯
@Aaron Johnson Prius doesn't use any type of belt Instead of using a friction belt, it uses two electric motors and a differential gear
Sit there and laugh at someone's bad day. Yet they can't figure out for the life of their 10mil why customers don't trust them. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Precisely why I refuse to buy cars with CVTs
When I was buying my honda I made sure to get the 6mt model. They were only ever offered with a CVT or a 6MT.
Ahh come awn:-> just do a drain and fill - add some Marvel Mystery Oil and move it out. What’s a little slippage vs $3500
You cant get a replacement CVT for that kind of money... more like 8 grand !
more like $6,500
That "I WONDER IF THEY BROUGHT THEIR CHEQUE BOOK" had me cracking
"Lifetime CVT fluid" 😂
You find it that contaminated?
The fluid lasted the lifetime of the transmission… it just wasn’t a very long life.
No, you're supposed to replace it every 30k miles. It even says it in the Honda Fit owners manual lmao.
Maybe the previous owner just didnt care at all
And never took care
Of it!!!! Abused it all
Day… nothin will last
All of the above because the owner drove it. Should have left it parked teach him a lesson.
I see cvt cars with 300000km no issues but the owners change the fuild every 50000km
But they still suck lol thanks for nothing jatco
They don't try towing for sure
as a Honda Technician working for Honda, I can Confirm that,... ALL HONDAS FROM 2015+ are GARBAGE, CVT's fail regular basis, even the new Type R has camshaft problems and all Earth Dreams have injector and timing problems dont get me started on the 2022 civics/hybrids either,... those cant even handle a minor front-end fender bender without compromizing the brake master cylinder which is mounted behind the passenger headlight on the frame rail rendering the car undriveable
what about the non-turbo earth dream in the 2015 crv?
Owner most likely never maintained it properly, Honda makes Great cars.
Well, at least the drain plug works !
Look at how these pigs think someone’s misfortune is funny. And they’re going to fix it in an hour and because the flat rate manual says it takes four hours, they’re going to steal from the customer and charge them for four hours. Isn’t that something?
I've got 160k+ on my 2013 Accord CVT. Drain and fill with Honda HCF-2 every 30k miles.
“I wonder if they brought their checkbook” 😭
This will be a perfect video for all the people who tell me that nothing ever goes wrong with the Honda
Thank you 👏👏
Bro moaned when he saw the metal bits
😂😂
Probably did something to the gear selector I know the DSL are easy to switch between so imagine at highway speed instead of selecting Sports you go to Low.. the paddle shiter gear boxes don't have L
NEVER EVER BUY A CAR WITH A "CV" TRANSMISSION ! STANDARD TRANSMISSION ONLY !!!!!!!!!
Automatics are fine. Had one car with Cvt, never again. Liked the car, hated the cvt.
@John Franklin CVT are actually smooth if one knows how to drive them properly. CVT is not a transmission for heavy footers.
You have conventional automatics, and dual clutch automatics(a manual transmission that is shifted automatically). These two types are more reliable than the cvt.
@@johnfranklin5277What car was it?
This is why you want to work at a Honda dealership. Those Toyota techs are trying to make ends meet by selling wallet flushes.
Mechanic: Good news, bad news, which one you one first. Customer: Bad news! Mechanic: Well, your transmission is jacked and it will cost you $8,000, but the good news we were able to save the drain plug.
That’s just so funny someone is out a bunch of cash cause their trans went out when yours does put the video up laughing plz
Imagine walking into the waiting room with that drain plug and handing it to the customer and telling them that it's the only thing left of their transmission that's good...
Screwgie. No country for old men reference.
And that is officially toasted
I use amsoil CVT fluid on my 2020 honda civic sport 2.0. I change my CVT fluid and filters every 30,000 miles. I have 66,000 miles on my civic and i have no issues.
You dropped the most important piece (of the worst idea in power transmission history).
Rip to the people who have cvt's and is reading the comments lol
100k on my Lancer cvt. Still runs as good as the day I bought it. It’s all about the maintenance.
Same thing happened to my honda. Luckily honda has extended the cvt warranty to 150k. Would have cost me 8k.
What year and model Honda?
@@ronh9384 2017 hrv
2017 hrv
CVT’s are crap. Car manufacturers please go back to 5-10 speed automatic transmission for the love of all things good.
Edit: And keep making internal combustion engine cars
It's great you got a laugh at someone's misfortune.
I changed the fluid on the 2015 altima every 30 k miles and it lasted me 150k before i sold it for 10k during covid…. I really miss it….astonishing on fuel!!!
Ngl did the trans fluid on a 2007 Acura MDX . And a piece of the cage came out on the magnet . I filled it up and traded it in the following week.
Cage??? The hell you talking about? How many miles were on it? Did it have any changes before? I hate people who dump their problems onto others like you. Karma will catch up to you one of these days bruh
I must of been the one who but it you 😊😊😊
JK 😊
i change CVT fluid every 50k for toyota Aqua .no issues what so ever. has done 165k so far.
ahh yes the good ol CVT: continuous variable trash-heap
I’ve been working on passenger cars and heavy trucks for more years than I can count. From my experience on CVT transmissions. I’d never buy a vehicle that has one. The smoothness of the ride and being able to go 120 mph in reverse isn’t worth the problems they always have. If you have a heavy foot and are known to shift from reverse to drive without coming to a complete stop, don’t buy any vehicle with one. It’s gonna break.
Seems like an easy problem to fix. Don’t be a bad driver and the cvt will work just fine.
Honda’s CVT design is very solid. The only time I see these things fail is when folks abuse the hell out of them. & people today are so silly to never service their transmissions
CVT tranmissions are the most terrible things on earth.
Thank god i drive a standard transmission car 😊😊
So this person, your customer, is going to have a very expensive repair that maybe they can't afford and it's funny to you!
Hopefully all your other customers will see this and go somewhere else
Never buy anything with the CVT transmission
Pocket screw-g with a magnetus on the back..... Lmfao the most used tool in my front pocket...
Stay away from any brand cvt transmissions...
Honda has been making cvt transmissions for a long time. If they can't make a good one, nobody can. I'll never own one.
“I swear, with just a few more modifications, we can reliably move 3,000lb vehicles through a belt”
- some engineer
Bogus when you see a shop you took it to so they have help you and they are laughing at you and joking about how it will be expensive instead of thinking of ways to save you some coin.
That "I WONDER IF THEY BROUGHT THEIR CHEQUE BOOK" had me cracking
Toyota and Honda make really durable and reliable vehicles that can outlast American cars but those cvt trans are complete garbage and should not be allowed on any car brand
" Hope they brought their checkbook"Another family looking at writing off the car or facing financial ruin. Price of parts and labor just robbery
Cvts are great on small equipment. I would never buy a car with one
oems should be held responsible for over engineering. hr-v and toyota pos ch-r would cost someone 10000 to replace trans, used is almost same price. if you wanna piss people off thats the way to do it
KEY POINT:
Change the CVT trans fluid & filter every 30k miles with the correct, OEM fluid!
My wife drives a '17 Nissan Rogue (over 100k miles now) with the crappy CVT.... but it still operates like new thanks to fluid and filter changes every 30k miles.
I'm meticulous when it comes to maintenance... and that makes a huge difference... now not to say that it may fail at some point... but I'm fighting it all the way!
I had one of those and the cvt crapped out @78k. Left me in the middle of the road. The car wouldn't move until it cooled down. I was just glad I was on a side street when it happened. This car had all its maintenance done on time and was driven 95% hwy miles, and it still happened. Guy at the dealer said he done one that only had 900 miles on it, so i think it's not necessarily a maintenance issue, but more of a design issue.
I’m going to lose an auto trans due to not servicing it every 30k miles like the manual said. I first serviced it at 120k miles. It was already too late. It fixed the rough shifting issue but six months later, it started to slip. This video is a reminder that transmissions are not meant to be neglected. There are a lot of great transmissions out there, but the owners neglect them, so they get a bad rep they don’t deserve.
Some transmissions are overbuilt, regardless of them being neglected or not, they generally will last anyway. Some are reliable but not overbuilt, where if you do neglect it, the transmission will fail early but if you take care of it, it will last a long time. Then you have unreliable transmissions where it doesn’t matter whether you service it or not, it will fail early.
Try lucas transmission stop slip, Ford Type F, and even Tractor Hydraulic Oil as last ditch measures to save the car. Also change the filter. Plugged filters lead to low line pressure that keeps the clutches and bands from fully engaging.
They're neglected because they get led to be the the vehicle manufacturer has their best interest in mind when it comes maintenance and longevity.
CVT's are horrible transmissions. Every single one of them
Checkbook?! Yeah right who are you kidding bud your doing it under warranty!
This order of lethality matters not to a ram fire shotgun.
*Act Accordingly*
Nice motor😂😂😂😂
Oh just put the pieces back and toss in some glue. It'll be fine. 🥴
oof, wtf does that fit have like 400Hp? Thefuq?
Nahhhhhh you're fine. Those pieces of metal are actually in there for added traction for the transmission. Just put new oil in and you be fine.😂
Esas partículas no sería la cadena que hace del cambio donde estan las poleas
I’m trying to figure out what’s funny?
A lot of cat makers use CVTs as a cheap way to meet emissions standards. Subaru started putting them in everything because they can’t make gas efficient engines lol.
I work on big trucks. I’ll show you some big time trash on a drain plug!