This is the kind of superhero documentary I live for. I don’t care about the cultural impact of heroes tackling social issues or how this book broke so many sales records or how this was a ripoff of that. I love watching DeFalco and Frenz talk about how the black suit caused so many changes to the book and how they started to switch costumes based on the type of story they were telling and how decisions changed based on fan responses. You can’t see that now with comics written for the trade and writers having a desired end goal in their heads that don’t allow any minor deviation they hadn’t planned for. I’m glad to see this live on and hope other people enjoy as much as I did.
I remember watching this on TV back in 07. This is what got me into comics beyond the movies and cartoons. Immediately after I picked up the birth of venom tpb.
Fans claimed marvel was ruining Spider-Man because they changed his costume? And threatened to protest outside the company? And said they would never read marvel again? Wow. Times have certainly changed havent they! I can't imagine comic fans acting like that today!
I don’t even know what the big outcry in comics was when this original comment was posted but it’s literally timeless that comic fans get mad at any changes 😂
The music in this always sounded so ominous and depressing to hear as a kid. Especially the credits. Which perfectly fits with Peter's neverending life issues and being hopelessly addicted to the suit that's slowly killing him inside.
16:05 Plus it gave him the opportunity to have a larger wardrobe that he didn't have to buy from JCPenney or the Salvation Army since he was almost always strapped for cash lol.
29:39 A brilliant creative idea that Todd says was also known as "my plan to get that goddamn black suit off of Peter Parker." He hated the black suit and had plans for the red and blue costume he grew up with.
Well that certainly explains the reasons for my long seated contempt for Todd. That costume was the reason I started reading Spider-Man as a kid. Issue #300 made my dislike for him official. The whole Miracleman mess he perpetrated only put the final nail in his coffin. Glad Neil Gaiman won that battle, too.
@starsdealer3473 without Todd Mcfarlane there won't be Venom as well Mark Bagley(aka our favorite artist),Carnage and many symbiotes including Anti-Venom all we know and love.
This is a very cool and interesting documentary. I didn’t realize it was so much backstory. I remember the suit from Secret Wars and thought oh cool he looks like a Ninja (SnakE Eyes) I was all for the new look.
I always liked the black costume (comics not Spider-Man 3) it just seemed more elegant n classy and would make him seem more mysterious I guess it’s just my preference though
No mention of the reader who designed the black and red costume in the first place and sold his drawing to Marvel ? It's a shame Randy Schueller doesn't get any credit
@28:07 Web #1 is one of the greatest comic book covers ever. I have the action figure of that model that sits on the gargoyles. I wour love to have a giant blow up poster of it.
@@Snake_eyes0 yea, but its actually anti venom. . and hes not even with the real mary jane, and he got bitched sadly by miles the whole game and is now washed-man. .😔
@@drakerealdragos The Mary Jane he has is fine and didn't Miles get murked by Kraven twice and I mean Peter was the star of the whole show and he got a more powerful symbiote that'll give him even more overpowered abilities, Just chill man Peter is just fine
Released before, Secret Wars issue 8 would debut a few months later to explain how Peter had acquired the costume. It was a marketing ploy to entice you to pick up both books
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Very happy we could help preserve this cool documentary and share it with people online!
hey look its the guy with the subs
oh my god its youtube sensation GodzillaMendoza
Thanks I used to have this on dvd when I was like five
You don’t even like The Black Suit/Symbiote You mostly hate it actually
How's the homemade costume you made? Still good?
R.I.P John Romita Sr.
You’ll always be a true Spider-Man artist
This is the kind of superhero documentary I live for. I don’t care about the cultural impact of heroes tackling social issues or how this book broke so many sales records or how this was a ripoff of that. I love watching DeFalco and Frenz talk about how the black suit caused so many changes to the book and how they started to switch costumes based on the type of story they were telling and how decisions changed based on fan responses. You can’t see that now with comics written for the trade and writers having a desired end goal in their heads that don’t allow any minor deviation they hadn’t planned for. I’m glad to see this live on and hope other people enjoy as much as I did.
Yeeeah.
Spider-Man 3 from 2007 is probably my favorite out of al of them. The suit just looked sleek as hell
It's good but I personally prefer the insomniac spiderman 2 black suit
I still have this on DVD, I didn't realize it was lost media!
@Tee Lotus Spider-Man: Origin of a Superhero, I believe.
Loved how they explained how the Black Suit came to be.
I remember watching this on TV back in 07. This is what got me into comics beyond the movies and cartoons. Immediately after I picked up the birth of venom tpb.
Yeesss.
Same here Comcast on demand!
I remember watching this documentary online back in college, May 2007 in preparation for the then forthcoming Spider-Man 3! Ahhhhh memories
Fans claimed marvel was ruining Spider-Man because they changed his costume? And threatened to protest outside the company? And said they would never read marvel again?
Wow. Times have certainly changed havent they! I can't imagine comic fans acting like that today!
@Nightmare1398 exactly it so iconic can’t beat the old classic it has impact
That must be sarcasm
I don’t even know what the big outcry in comics was when this original comment was posted but it’s literally timeless that comic fans get mad at any changes 😂
The music in this always sounded so ominous and depressing to hear as a kid. Especially the credits. Which perfectly fits with Peter's neverending life issues and being hopelessly addicted to the suit that's slowly killing him inside.
My fav suit of all time
16:05 Plus it gave him the opportunity to have a larger wardrobe that he didn't have to buy from JCPenney or the Salvation Army since he was almost always strapped for cash lol.
Yeah well JCPenney no longer exists so...
@@iso-didact789 I was thinking of what was open back then in the 1980s
@@Artisan1979 I know I was joking.
I miss when Spider-Man was actually Spider-Man.
29:39 A brilliant creative idea that Todd says was also known as "my plan to get that goddamn black suit off of Peter Parker." He hated the black suit and had plans for the red and blue costume he grew up with.
Well that certainly explains the reasons for my long seated contempt for Todd. That costume was the reason I started reading Spider-Man as a kid. Issue #300 made my dislike for him official. The whole Miracleman mess he perpetrated only put the final nail in his coffin. Glad Neil Gaiman won that battle, too.
And that's why we have venom , thanks todd
@@invisiblesun6595Agreed
@starsdealer3473 without Todd Mcfarlane there won't be Venom as well Mark Bagley(aka our favorite artist),Carnage and many symbiotes including Anti-Venom all we know and love.
16:28 this guy juts had a split second crazy idea that ended up being one of the greatest Spider-Man arcs of all time
Dude said “I came up with the goofy idea” and made one of the greatest fictional rivalries and villains of all time 😂😂😂😂damn!
Dude I want and hour long version of the background music.. it’s soooo good
Me too.
@@treyvonwilliams it’s like perfect ugh..
I liked the symbiote suit for spider-man
Love it, thank you very much,much appreciated. 😮❤😊.
nice work finding this
Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 6 Venom is my favorite
This is a very cool and interesting documentary. I didn’t realize it was so much backstory. I remember the suit from Secret Wars and thought oh cool he looks like a Ninja (SnakE Eyes) I was all for the new look.
Never seen this before so thank you for uploading. Really interesting to see the history of the black costume!
Am I the only one who prefers the black cat from the Spiderman 2 video game? Hot!😍
So happy to run into this!!!
Tom Holland needs to beg Marvel to make his role as Spidey goes....going into Secret Wars....even add Black Cat for a new actress
I always liked the black costume (comics not Spider-Man 3) it just seemed more elegant n classy and would make him seem more mysterious I guess it’s just my preference though
The Spider-Man 3 costume is amazing idc
No mention of the reader who designed the black and red costume in the first place and sold his drawing to Marvel ? It's a shame Randy Schueller doesn't get any credit
I don't believe that was public knowledge in 2007
@@MrSupersonic28 Haven't considered this
These guys are geniuses
This should have been on the Spider-man 3 DVD features ?
@28:07 Web #1 is one of the greatest comic book covers ever. I have the action figure of that model that sits on the gargoyles. I wour love to have a giant blow up poster of it.
That's the issue where he tries to take symbiote suit off.
Nice video
Anyone know where to find the music to this documentary? Cause it’s kind of incredible.
Thank you RUclips Algorithm
Damn we got picked up by the algorithm? Awesome!
This is amazing! (No pun intended)
I wish spidey kept the symbiote
Same but atleast he does in insomniacs spiderman 2
@@Snake_eyes0 yea, but its actually anti venom. . and hes not even with the real mary jane, and he got bitched sadly by miles the whole game and is now washed-man. .😔
@@drakerealdragos The Mary Jane he has is fine and didn't Miles get murked by Kraven twice and I mean Peter was the star of the whole show and he got a more powerful symbiote that'll give him even more overpowered abilities, Just chill man Peter is just fine
I love this
I wish there was a way to listen to music that plays during the Mary Jane section.
It took 1:30 to start the actual video. Bored out of my mind til Ron started talking.
Relax it’s just the intro to a documentary from over 15 years ago
Homecoming. Interesting
200th sub 🎉
Good stuff
I keep hearing that the documentary was originally from a DVD. Does someone still own a copy to this day?
DragonBatSpidey that’s how we got a high res copy to upload. Came from the dvd I used to watch as a kid
So 252 ASM came after Secret Wars 8?
Released before, Secret Wars issue 8 would debut a few months later to explain how Peter had acquired the costume. It was a marketing ploy to entice you to pick up both books
Where can you find the music for this 😭
Who’s here because of psm
Me...
So secret wars 8 technically first appearance of black costumes.
no, Amazing spiderman 252 was, it came out 7 months earlier
Not necessarily its first appearance as Stephens pointed out but when he originally acquired it.
bruh nice
Yeeeah?
Coool?
A fan made the black costume and sold it to marvel for 250$ In a contest they had at the time.
This documentary is lying.
Where’s your proof and I don’t think that’s the case
My proof ? That’s what happened. It’s well known. Go look it up. It’s a fact.
@@stevemichael652 I did never found anything related to a fan making the black suit
The fans name was Randy Shueller look it up dude it’s seriously not hard to find.
@@stevemichael652 Ok I saw yep they got it all wrong here
wtf is this where’s batman
You Mad? 😂
@@Alex-ot4tm basically he is
Smd