I always had terrible form with barbells to do lateral rises, it got better with time. but this exercise is amazing it really puts you in the right position to effectively train the side delt, you can feel the burn and work with this. it's amazing
Thanks friend! I'm glad it was helpful for you. I have a whole playlist full of these tutorials if you're interested in seeing more. Just put one up yesterday actually.
My favorite shoulder exercise would be the seated Arnold Press. I do really like any kind of dumbbell or cable lateral raises too though. I would some times incorporate dumbbell or barbell front raises, as well as dumbbell rear delt flys so I can hit all of the sides of the delts.
A little late here but seated military press is my favorite. Builds a lot of mass and a good looking shelf. I use to do standing but the core was to involved when I just wanted to focus on building my shoulders . Standing is still a must do and add in now and then. As for this side raises with the cables . I tried it today and going to keep this as part of my routine . I never could get this movement down in the gym where I felt totally comfortable and started avoiding them . This works, thanks !
Just got an FT and this is just the type of information I am looking for! I do Shoulder Press at the gym. Love the idea of supplementing with exercises like this which really use an FT for things I could not get from the basic gym machines at PF. Fingers crossed you will make a whole video on what you have been using your FT-5000 for.
I think if the gym has a lateral raise machine - it's better to go for it, because you can do two shoulders at the same time and the tension is always going to be there (unlike the dumbbells). With this leaning cable lateral raise I don't like the fact that you should do one shoulder at a time essentially doubling the time you'll be spending for the exercise
I used to love military press, but after 20 years...I prefer cable laterals. Much easier on my joints. The military press never really added much to my frame other than front delt development, but bench press already hits it pretty hard, so it's not in my routine much at all, anymore.
@@RyanTreadaway I still do them, just not as religiously as I used to. I used to military presses, z-presses, dumb bell presses all the time. I usually do one pressing movement, but the majority is laterals.
Tell you what if you didn't lean you could even have a greater range of motion, and more tension at the bottom with the cable machine. The leaning is for dumbells. It's basic physics. With weights the force is downward, with the cable it is perpendicular.
YES! 👐👐👐 I love it. I had that as my primary shoulder exercise for over a year. I finally decided I would swap it out for a couple of months before adding it back in. Lol
Most weight stacks will weigh ~10 lbs or so with no weight added to it. Try pulling the pin completely out of the weight stack and doing them that way.
I would say it's a mistake. With the outside foot in front, it prevents you from letting the cable get in front. You have to keep it behind that outside leg.
It's more beneficial because of the extra range of motion. Technically, you could do a standing cable lateral raise and just raise the cable higher to get a similar effect if you didn't want to do the leaning variation.
That's an excellent question. I would say it's the closest thing to matching this exercise but there is a SLIGHTLY shorter range of motion with the machine because your arms stop when they touch your sides at the bottom of the movement.
I would advise against that. In general, think about the direction the muscle fibers run for the target muscle. When isolating that muscle, you'll want the weight to move in line with those muscle fibers. In the case of the lateral delts, you'll want the weight to be out to your sides.
Can you go in-depth about the differences between standing barbell raises vs standing dumbbell raises vs seated dumbbell raises vs seated barbell raises ?
@@RyanTreadaway I was referring to the OHP bc in the video you stated that standing Shoulder press with a dumbbell targets the medial delt. I always thought the ShOulder press targets the front delts. So all those variations I listed do target the front delts but doing the movement standing with a dumbbell will also target the medial deltoid at a greater range compared to the others correct?. Also this video has helped me so much and I can’t wait to utilize them in my next upper body session!
@@Beautybysabrina oh okay! Yes, you'd be correct! Dumbbells would shift the emphasis a bit more to lateral delts. I'll add that video Idea to my list as well!
Yeah you do, this guy did it wrong with the dumbell lat raises too. You keep the elbow above your hands and tilt your forearm out not straight like this.
@@RyanTreadawayyou engage the side delt way more this way. There is method to it this other videos explain better than I can. Still think the video is great gonna try these out see if they're any good tomorrow.
@@eamon9754 I do have my elbows slightly bent on both, which I would recommend. But if you bend them too much, the weight will not be in the same plane as the fibers of the muscle, shifting emphasis onto surrounding muscles. As for the hands below the elbows, the weight will naturally pull your hands downward and when using a working weight, your hands will likely be (slightly) below the elbow. I was using extremely light weight in this video though. If your hands are significantly lower than your elbows, that'd be a sign you're using too much weight.
i wonder wondering, if we align the shoulder (the will do the pulling) with the column? or do we align our hands with the column (cuz we are bending our elbows a little)
Great question! Even though you're bending your elbow, your hand will still be mostly in line with your shoulder. Your elbow will be slightly back. That said. Your hand will have to be in line with the column in order to be a lateral raise. If your hand is forward of the column. It becomes somewhat of a front raise.
Be sure to purposely keep your shoulders down and think about sweeping the weight down and out vs just raising the weight up. It will help keep your traps out of the movement.
@@RyanTreadaway both works well for me.. I think it doesn t matter too much. But this exercise is now at every end of upper body traing :D I can t do them too often (max 2- 3 times per week or my shoulders and traps hurt to bad)
It depends on if I'm gaining or cutting. When I'm gaining, the only cardio I do is if I'm playing with my dog. When cutting, I'll do around 1000 Calories of cardio per week.
I also think that I was taking the cable out in front me, like others have expressed. Let me see if I can make this feel better than it has been feeling in the gym tonorrow
I have tried to do this exercise, and I used a step up box since it wasn't that low but even on the lowest weight, I couldn't pull it all the way up. Something I should improve or my side delts are dead?
Honestly, I've seen the term "military press" used for several different shoulder presses. lol I just go with standing barbell overhead press or seated barbell overhead press.
@@RyanTreadaway I know that and I did listen to the whole video, but I have a lot of exercises I need to memorize in my gym structure and if I need to come back to this video quickly In the middle of the gym to see how the form looks, I can go back to that point
Appreciate this my guy. I always had the cable in front of me.
Happy to help my friend!
Okay Bobby gots
What an obvious fix in retrospect, could never decide to have both feet infront or behind! Whoops!
nice
I've done these but always in front... Makes alot more sense to run the cable between the legs and lean! 💪
I used to do that as well, but that little tweak makes a big difference!
I always had terrible form with barbells to do lateral rises, it got better with time. but this exercise is amazing it really puts you in the right position to effectively train the side delt, you can feel the burn and work with this. it's amazing
Definitely! It's a very good exercise. I'm glad you like it!
Great tutorial! I appreciate that you showed the movement from different angles so that it is very clear how the correct form should look like.
Thanks friend! I'm glad it was helpful for you. I have a whole playlist full of these tutorials if you're interested in seeing more. Just put one up yesterday actually.
My favorite shoulder exercise would be the seated Arnold Press. I do really like any kind of dumbbell or cable lateral raises too though. I would some times incorporate dumbbell or barbell front raises, as well as dumbbell rear delt flys so I can hit all of the sides of the delts.
I love those as well!
thank you for keeping it simple bro, thank goodness
Happy to help, Joshua!
A little late here but seated military press is my favorite. Builds a lot of mass and a good looking shelf. I use to do standing but the core was to involved when I just wanted to focus on building my shoulders . Standing is still a must do and add in now and then. As for this side raises with the cables . I tried it today and going to keep this as part of my routine . I never could get this movement down in the gym where I felt totally comfortable and started avoiding them . This works, thanks !
thanks for the btw legs tip . Now i know where i was lacking.
Glad to help!
Just got an FT and this is just the type of information I am looking for! I do Shoulder Press at the gym. Love the idea of supplementing with exercises like this which really use an FT for things I could not get from the basic gym machines at PF. Fingers crossed you will make a whole video on what you have been using your FT-5000 for.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for future content!
been doing dumbbells for a while, realised cables are a way better option, thanks for going more in depth on how to do one!
Happy to help!
This is criminally underrated
Thanks, friend!
I've been doing side plank lateral raises, but I'll give this one a go for sure.
I think you'll like it!
Great stance adjustment. Thanks for the idea.
Happy to help!
Thank you for this I would always do them in front no wonder I felt like something was wrong
I did the same thing and didn't like them at all until I started playing with the setup. I'm glad it was helpful for you!
Damn that is really a great exercise!
I had to use the 2nd lightest weight to do it properly to 12 15 reps
It's definitely difficult!
Dang, i didn't know that i was training my front delt more than my side delt with my form, thanks sir.
Happy to help!
Thank you. I was always returning all the way to my side
There ya go!
Fantastic explanation in this video. Thank you for this.
Happy to help!
Great tutorial and explanation. You earned a new subscriber 👍👍👍
Thanks! Happy to help!
This was fantastic. Love this bro thank you
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I think if the gym has a lateral raise machine - it's better to go for it, because you can do two shoulders at the same time and the tension is always going to be there (unlike the dumbbells). With this leaning cable lateral raise I don't like the fact that you should do one shoulder at a time essentially doubling the time you'll be spending for the exercise
I love lateral raise machines! This was a specific variation of the lateral raise to emphasize going past neutral to get a wider range of motion.
Looking forward to this! My shoulders need some work
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you. Well explained and I loved the demo. 😃😄
Thanks! Glad the video was helpful!
Thank you for this. It's exactly what I needed 👍🏽
Happy to help!
Great video. Thanks a lot!
Glad you liked it! Thank you!
Thank you very much brother. I was wondering how to do this. Got clarity 👍
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Great i also start feel improvementbin shoulder
Glad to hear it!
gonna try this out today, ty for the video
Let me know how you enjoy it. Happy to help!
Very good one!keep going!
Thanks my friend!
I used to love military press, but after 20 years...I prefer cable laterals. Much easier on my joints. The military press never really added much to my frame other than front delt development, but bench press already hits it pretty hard, so it's not in my routine much at all, anymore.
Vertical presses are still good movements though. You can do standing DB presses to shift emphasis to the lateral delts a bit.
@@RyanTreadaway I still do them, just not as religiously as I used to. I used to military presses, z-presses, dumb bell presses all the time. I usually do one pressing movement, but the majority is laterals.
@@rocketeightyseven1823 fair enough. Gotta have that variety!
Thanks for sharing. Definitely worth a sub!
Thanks friend!
Love the explainer, good job
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Great vid!
Thanks friend! I'm glad you liked it!
Great 👍, was doing it wrong. Thanks 🙏
Happy to help my friend!
Very cool exercise thanks for sharing
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Tell you what if you didn't lean you could even have a greater range of motion, and more tension at the bottom with the cable machine.
The leaning is for dumbells. It's basic physics.
With weights the force is downward, with the cable it is perpendicular.
Thanks
Glad to help!
Standing Shoulder press on squat rack ❤️ is my favourite exercise
YES! 👐👐👐 I love it. I had that as my primary shoulder exercise for over a year. I finally decided I would swap it out for a couple of months before adding it back in. Lol
This was good man. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
This explanation was spot on! You rock, man! Thanks.
I'm glad it was helpful!
I subscribe to your channel I love how you explain the exercise!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the explanation.
Big thank you 🙏🏼
Happy to help!
Thank you, to think that this little adjustment would benefit me so much
Happy to help!
Even with the lightest weight I still can’t perform 1 rep with the cable lateral raise is there any way u can help?
Most weight stacks will weigh ~10 lbs or so with no weight added to it. Try pulling the pin completely out of the weight stack and doing them that way.
Thank you so much!
Happy to help!
Great video thanks bro
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Thanks, my friend!
What a wonderful moustache!
Thanks, John!
Love this
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Ye this workout and execution is killer!! Want to build mass..listen to whst this guy says ; )
Thanks, Kyle! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Nice vid. Even someone with as perfect physique as mine could use this 😊
Glad to help! 😁
Thanks, this is exactly what I wanted! 👍🏼
Glad it was helpful!
Thnkx man
Happy to help!
1:08 Leaning lateral raise
Yup.
Masterly. Thank you.
Thanks, Mickey!
Thank you bro!
No problem! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Could you please make a video on how to properly do the overhead press?
I can add that to my list! (It will be a few weeks though. I already have some videos in the works for the next few weeks.)
Ryan Treadaway sounds good👍🏻. Will be waiting for it.
@@mohammadjafari1674 Thanks, friend!
I like this vid
Very useful
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Would it be a mistake if a put the outside foot behind instead of in front?
I would say it's a mistake. With the outside foot in front, it prevents you from letting the cable get in front. You have to keep it behind that outside leg.
Is this a good mass building exercise for the lateral deltoid?
Yes! I would still include a good overhead press though because they can be loaded more heavily than this exercise.
DB shoulder press!!
Have you tried them standing?
Ryan Treadaway yes but it’s been a minute.
They're hard. Lol
Thumbs up bro.thanx fr d video.i have sub
Glad you enjoyed it! 💪💪
Came for the info, stayed for the Moustache
Thanks, Lewis!
hello! is leaning cable lateral raise more effective than cable lateral raise where youre standing?
It's more beneficial because of the extra range of motion. Technically, you could do a standing cable lateral raise and just raise the cable higher to get a similar effect if you didn't want to do the leaning variation.
Do you think lateral raise machine can replace this exercise? Or maybe do both?
That's an excellent question. I would say it's the closest thing to matching this exercise but there is a SLIGHTLY shorter range of motion with the machine because your arms stop when they touch your sides at the bottom of the movement.
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Thanks my friend!
I feel like I am using too much traps over the lateral head any tips?
Purposely keep your shoulder down
Sweep down and out as deep and wide as possible.
Love this video :D
Thanks friend! Glad you enjoyed it!
I always do them but i make my elbows 90 degree
I would advise against that. In general, think about the direction the muscle fibers run for the target muscle. When isolating that muscle, you'll want the weight to move in line with those muscle fibers. In the case of the lateral delts, you'll want the weight to be out to your sides.
That ROM tho
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what about the gripping? most of the time it comes on my wrists.
What do you mean?
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Can you go in-depth about the differences between standing barbell raises vs standing dumbbell raises vs seated dumbbell raises vs seated barbell raises ?
Are you referring to front raises or lateral raises?
@@RyanTreadaway I was referring to the OHP bc in the video you stated that standing Shoulder press with a dumbbell targets the medial delt. I always thought the ShOulder press targets the front delts. So all those variations I listed do target the front delts but doing the movement standing with a dumbbell will also target the medial deltoid at a greater range compared to the others correct?. Also this video has helped me so much and I can’t wait to utilize them in my next upper body session!
@@Beautybysabrina oh okay! Yes, you'd be correct! Dumbbells would shift the emphasis a bit more to lateral delts. I'll add that video Idea to my list as well!
@@RyanTreadaway thanks Ryan!
@@Beautybysabrina happy to help!
Don't you wanna have the elbow higher/same height as the arm? You don't wanna lead with your hand right?
That's not a cue that I would use. To me, that feels like a cue that would lead to doing more weight with worse form.
Yeah you do, this guy did it wrong with the dumbell lat raises too. You keep the elbow above your hands and tilt your forearm out not straight like this.
@@eamon9754 for what biomechanical reason?
@@RyanTreadawayyou engage the side delt way more this way. There is method to it this other videos explain better than I can. Still think the video is great gonna try these out see if they're any good tomorrow.
@@eamon9754 I do have my elbows slightly bent on both, which I would recommend. But if you bend them too much, the weight will not be in the same plane as the fibers of the muscle, shifting emphasis onto surrounding muscles.
As for the hands below the elbows, the weight will naturally pull your hands downward and when using a working weight, your hands will likely be (slightly) below the elbow. I was using extremely light weight in this video though. If your hands are significantly lower than your elbows, that'd be a sign you're using too much weight.
Umm, you can raise the dumbbell beyond the 90 degree angle for a better ROM?
You CAN but after the dumbbell crosses 90 degrees, your arm is getting closer to being in line with gravity, meaning you're losing tension.
I love DB lateral raises but I like doing the cable ones too😋
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i wonder wondering, if we align the shoulder (the will do the pulling) with the column? or do we align our hands with the column (cuz we are bending our elbows a little)
Great question! Even though you're bending your elbow, your hand will still be mostly in line with your shoulder. Your elbow will be slightly back. That said. Your hand will have to be in line with the column in order to be a lateral raise. If your hand is forward of the column. It becomes somewhat of a front raise.
Does that make sense?
@@RyanTreadaway thank you, helped. shared your video with some of my friends as well!
@@supremereseller5953 happy to help! And thank you. Hopefully, they like the video as well!
Does this also hit the trapecius and neck muscles?
Not If you're doing it correctly. The cue to scoop down and out helps ensure that your shoulder stays down and your traps stay out of the movement.
3:20 ino you should have arm in 'front" and by front I mean shoulderblade plane
If your arm is in front, it becomes a different exercise.
@@RyanTreadaway 30 degrees between arm and torso
I feel traps too much with this exercise, so db lat raises are better for me
Be sure to purposely keep your shoulders down and think about sweeping the weight down and out vs just raising the weight up. It will help keep your traps out of the movement.
When doing 3 sets of 12 of these, do I have to do 3 sets for each arm?
Assuming you want to work both arms, yes.
does it matter wich foot is in front?
To me, it feels most natural to have the outside foot back and inside foot forward.
@@RyanTreadaway both works well for me.. I think it doesn t matter too much. But this exercise is now at every end of upper body traing :D
I can t do them too often (max 2- 3 times per week or my shoulders and traps hurt to bad)
@@ThorgalsWalhalla 2-3x per week is a good frequency. Glad you like them!
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@@electronicpunk3797 they're Adidas lite racer
Is this still your favorite shoulder exercises for lateral raises ?
Probably. Lol
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@@arry4479 sorry my friend!
How much cardio do you do per week? I know this is random
It depends on if I'm gaining or cutting. When I'm gaining, the only cardio I do is if I'm playing with my dog. When cutting, I'll do around 1000 Calories of cardio per week.
I also think that I was taking the cable out in front me, like others have expressed. Let me see if I can make this feel better than it has been feeling in the gym tonorrow
I hope you enjoy it!
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I have tried to do this exercise, and I used a step up box since it wasn't that low but even on the lowest weight, I couldn't pull it all the way up. Something I should improve or my side delts are dead?
Where's that accent from? You sound kinda like T-Bag from Prison Break
😅😅😅 not even close my friend. He has more of a southern Georgia accent. It's a very different accent. I'm from Alabama.
@@RyanTreadaway Alright, good to know. Not a native speaker 😉
@@Julez67 Haha no worries. I do like that accent.
10 pounds is too light but 20 is too heavy lol
I feel that struggle. Lol keep it at 10 lbs and add reps. Once you can do enough reps with 10 lbs, drop the reps and go to 20.
I can't even do 1 rep on the lightest weight lol
The column that holds the weights likely weighs 5 - 10 lbs. Have you tried pulling the pin out and doing just the column with no added weight?
@@RyanTreadaway Thanks for the tip. I didnt know you could do that
@@wc4572 definitely! It's a great place to start on exercises like this one where you're training small muscle groups.
There's literally no reason to lean with a cable machine.
The tension is already perpendicular to the stretched position.
What's your favorite shoulder exercise?
Overhead press with a barbell (I think it's called the military press)
Honestly, I've seen the term "military press" used for several different shoulder presses. lol I just go with standing barbell overhead press or seated barbell overhead press.
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2:10
The video is less than 4 minutes. You needed to timestamp the middle? lol
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Mate, the entire video is under 4m. lol Listening to what the exercise does and why to do this variation is definitely worth 1m 45s of your life.
@@RyanTreadaway I know that and I did listen to the whole video, but I have a lot of exercises I need to memorize in my gym structure and if I need to come back to this video quickly In the middle of the gym to see how the form looks, I can go back to that point
@@papipapasito3854 fair enough! That's a smart idea.
@@RyanTreadaway the video was very helpful because I always used it do this variation of the lat raise in front of me
@@papipapasito3854 glad it helped!
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