How To Get WIDER Shoulders (3 Training Mistakes You’re Probably Making)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024

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  • @JeremyEthier
    @JeremyEthier  5 лет назад +187

    Hope you enjoyed this one! Comment below what your most stubborn muscle group is below and I’ll plan some content towards that 👇 ! In the meantime, give me a follow on Instagram to stay updated and for more informative content - instagram.com/jeremyethier/ . Cheers!

    • @Supcuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
      @Supcuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 5 лет назад +1

      what are other exercises that hit the lateral head of the delt?

    • @dustinjackson2383
      @dustinjackson2383 5 лет назад +2

      Serratus anterior. Mine do not respond to most Serratus excersise.

    • @OImetaloi
      @OImetaloi 5 лет назад +1

      Really appreciate the format of your videos. The visual aids really help with form adjustments and the summary at the end helps reiterate the key points of the video. Keep up the great work!

    • @erikhernandez3608
      @erikhernandez3608 5 лет назад +6

      Calfs

    • @poxy0027
      @poxy0027 5 лет назад +3

      I'm struggling with size, no matter how much I eat I don't gain weight, I've just stayed 70 kg for the last 5 years and I'm now 23, would love a video on the exact proportions and foods you would eat in a week for a lean bulk.

  • @GretchensVeganBakery
    @GretchensVeganBakery 5 лет назад +163

    I will never understand dislikes on a video like this! Thank you, great video, great info!

    • @rajvardhan286
      @rajvardhan286 3 года назад +10

      Dislikes on this video are from the rival channels 🤣, don't u think in that way?

    • @markmiller1683
      @markmiller1683 3 года назад +18

      It’s best that you not try to understand ignorance. You’ll go crazy. Trust me

    • @chesseski7271
      @chesseski7271 3 года назад +4

      Also, bots

    • @anomaly_1417
      @anomaly_1417 3 года назад +8

      Ppl that don’t go to the gym

    • @johanhansson4574
      @johanhansson4574 3 года назад +2

      Because its bad for your shoulder joint learning not to engage the traps when doing shoulder abduction. And engaging the traps does not take away from training the delts. Traps move scapula not humerus. Both delts and traps should move when doing this movement naturally. This is old school bro science that is bad for the shoulder.

  • @robertnatchataha2142
    @robertnatchataha2142 5 лет назад +25

    Killer results because of these videos. I love the fact that he uses studies and the results of them to reinforce that how you implement the form of a routine matter ! I have seen more improvement in the last year than I've seen the past 5 ! Keep it up Jeremy, you're making a difference in peoples lives!

    • @JeremyEthier
      @JeremyEthier  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks for the kind words Robert!!

  • @anmaister
    @anmaister 5 лет назад +322

    This man quotes studies, I appreciate that.

    • @Stantheman848
      @Stantheman848 4 года назад +14

      Mostly random bullshit ones to be fair... to make it look like he has researched thoroughly.

    • @thinkalinkle
      @thinkalinkle 4 года назад +9

      @@Stantheman848 Regardless, the fact that he makes at least that much of an effort is commendable.

    • @kbflorida888
      @kbflorida888 4 года назад +3

      Jeremy always backs up his advice with peer reviewed analysis. He must’ve been an awesome student.

    • @aristide4505
      @aristide4505 3 года назад

      Tbh tho it's a basic way to convey an argument if you don't want a further senseless disagreement

    • @absolutewanker9384
      @absolutewanker9384 3 года назад

      @Theone82 yes you can

  • @musclegaining2058
    @musclegaining2058 3 года назад +28

    4:50 Lead with elbows instead of with hands. Dont let hands be higher than elbows
    6:00 Dont let traps get involved. Combat this by keeping traps down and back before you start. More tips on combatting occur til 6:36

  • @gimmethekeys
    @gimmethekeys 5 лет назад +105

    Hands down, this is my favorite workout channel! I love how you get right to the point, back your advice by research and offer practical tips.

    • @marcellocapone4925
      @marcellocapone4925 5 лет назад +5

      Jeff Nippard & Athlean are the other two - genuinely - science based fitness channels.

    • @Zetsuke4
      @Zetsuke4 5 лет назад +1

      I agree with me too

    • @gladiatorgamingnoob2035
      @gladiatorgamingnoob2035 3 года назад

      @@marcellocapone4925 the four best
      Athleanx
      Jeremy either
      Jeffnippard
      Greg doucette
      The four horsemen of good ftiness advise

  • @elliothillsater2782
    @elliothillsater2782 5 лет назад +681

    Jeremy can you please make a push pull workout? Maybe even Push A, push B, pull A, pull B, Legs A, legs B. Would be awesome :)

  • @tomcologner1943
    @tomcologner1943 5 лет назад +110

    Jeremy I purely appreciate how informative and well done your videos are. Keep up the good work you do for all of us 👍

  • @davidvuelvas9927
    @davidvuelvas9927 5 лет назад +322

    I was just about to go to the gym and hit shoulders! But I had to watch this video first thank you!

    • @smagma9704
      @smagma9704 5 лет назад +3

      David Vuelvas he always has good timing with whatever I’m doing lol

    • @kartikmann_
      @kartikmann_ 5 лет назад

      Don't hit just shoulders man. Look up his workout splits.

    • @rahilarora3792
      @rahilarora3792 5 лет назад

      David Vuelvas same here!

  • @megatbasyarullah4859
    @megatbasyarullah4859 5 лет назад +8

    Im a teen and about to continue my studies. Thinking of taking sports science. And your videos really make my interest grew even higher. Great video man!

  • @AcidGlow
    @AcidGlow 5 лет назад +29

    *Great advice* ✅🙂

  • @canthischannelget1subscrib928
    @canthischannelget1subscrib928 5 лет назад +10

    I actually added these workouts to my schedule and in 2 weeks there is a significant growth of shoulders.
    Thank you so much Ethier .

  • @christophercarlone9945
    @christophercarlone9945 26 дней назад

    Thanks Jeremy. Getting wider, more defined shoulders has been on my to-do list this year for my physique.

  • @sdjmalik
    @sdjmalik 5 лет назад +5

    This is perfect.

  • @fren6363
    @fren6363 5 лет назад +3

    Your editing, tension range graphics and other additions are so clean. Looks great!

  • @michiferrucci
    @michiferrucci 5 лет назад +3

    Hello Jeremy, I'm Italian and it's my first time watching a video of yours.
    I'm absolutely impressed by the way you explain complex concepts and by the way you actually show them to us.
    Please keep up the good work, you have a new subscriber now!
    Ciao!

  • @ericwillingham6956
    @ericwillingham6956 5 лет назад +5

    This exact body part been on my mind heavy this week, i mean exact, as my side delts r lagging, i even went back & watched a shoulders video u made back in 2017 i think it was, thanks 4 the once again great info!

  • @vinatious
    @vinatious 5 лет назад +2

    This is gold Jeremy. These are solid tips that can get results over time.

  • @eunicewong3963
    @eunicewong3963 5 лет назад +25

    I really like the wordings and the highlights in green (correct) and red (incorrect, not advisable)

  • @BigMcL4rgehuge
    @BigMcL4rgehuge 5 лет назад +5

    Coming back to this video to say that I tried leading with the elbows for my shoulders day today and it was total death, in the best way possible. Thanks for the tip! I'm excited to see some more shoulder development now that I'm using better form!

  • @TheFitnessMusicChannel
    @TheFitnessMusicChannel 5 лет назад

    Always on point, as this is one of the most informative science based training tips you can get on RUclips. No BS no gimmicks zero waste of time and no constant annoying sales pitching is why your video's are my favorite. You are truly my
    "DAX homegymmotivation" trainer. Thank You as always Dax.

  • @Army-zf2xz
    @Army-zf2xz 5 лет назад +15

    Jeremy, thank you for your videos. Always on point !

  • @miketaison6775
    @miketaison6775 5 лет назад +10

    You’re awesome man

  • @smagma9704
    @smagma9704 5 лет назад +4

    thanks I neglected shoulders a bit out of fear of hurting them as I’ve done in the past.. but if you’re careful they develop quickly. I gotta look up your vids on how to avoid shoulder injury

  • @DaKosi
    @DaKosi 5 лет назад +7

    WARNING! When you perform the leaning version of the lateral raise, please make sure your neck is in a straight line and is not under heavy load. I did it one time with dumbells and the pain was super strong afterwards. Do it, but take care not to put your neck under high pressure.

    • @benmah3227
      @benmah3227 2 года назад

      Old comment but can i just ask, how do you ensure your neck is in a straight line? I have neck issues so I would like to know this

    • @DaKosi
      @DaKosi 2 года назад +1

      Hi @@benmah3227! Imagine your neck being an extension of your spine. The neck should be in line with your spine. If you have a mirror this can be done easier. I'm not a professional and I don't know how severe your problems are, but I'd advise to do normal standing or sitting lateral raises for at least a month to build a good base and then go to the leaning version if you really want to do them. Chill with it, go slow and controlled and it should be fine. Lateral raises have long leverage, so light weights are enough.

    • @benmah3227
      @benmah3227 2 года назад

      @@DaKosi Ok thanks for the advice!

  • @CJ_Pharaoh
    @CJ_Pharaoh 5 лет назад +1

    I do full body 3 days a week. I rotate between standing dumbbell, seated dumbbell thumbs up and behind the back lean away cable laterals.
    Thanks for the video Jeremy. Stay blessed 🙏

  • @David188126
    @David188126 5 лет назад +8

    7:03
    1) Incorporate *both cables and dumbells* into your shoulder training in order to maximize the resistance curve
    2) When performing the lateral raise, *avoid raising your hands higher than your elbows.* Instead, they should remain in line with each other and the elbows should "drive" the movement.
    3) *Avoid shrugging your upper traps* during shoulder exercises. Instead, keep them depressed to better activate the lateral deltoids.

  • @paulmurphy5510
    @paulmurphy5510 5 лет назад +124

    For the shruggers - just tense the lats whilst performing the lateral - it is impossible to engage the traps

    • @madhavbhatt431
      @madhavbhatt431 5 лет назад +2

      Do you mean flex the lats or retract and pinch scapulas?

    • @paulmurphy5510
      @paulmurphy5510 5 лет назад +8

      Madhav Bhatt you initiate the Side Late by standing with ‘lats’ flexed and shoulders internally rotated. As you raise the weight allow the lats to relax. As you lower the weight return to the front lat spread pose.

    • @madhavbhatt431
      @madhavbhatt431 5 лет назад +3

      Paul Murphy oh thanks bro appreciate it

    • @Frostbyt3zGaming
      @Frostbyt3zGaming 5 лет назад

      Thanks, I'll definitely give this a try.

    • @kyda__
      @kyda__ 5 лет назад +1

      woah that’s GENIUS actually! thanks for this tip

  • @markosm1657
    @markosm1657 5 лет назад +1

    You have the best training videos on internet. Helping me every day. Thank you.

  • @rcmp09
    @rcmp09 5 лет назад +2

    As for the concept regarding the supraspinatus activity in the early ROM. I would actually recommend increasing the tension earlier in the ROM instead of limiting it, precisely because the supraspinatus activity is higher. The supraspinatus is a muscle designed primarily to stabilize the shoulder (along with the rest of the rotator cuff). It has a relatively small crossectional area compared to the deltoid and significantly smaller moment arm due to its attachment site. As a result, if you simply increase the relative load at the beginning of the ROM with a more consistent resistance curve, than the supraspinatus won't be enough to move the weight and the deltoid will be forced to increase its contribution to perform the movement. Also, considering the fact that supraspinatus helps mitigate many of the negative effects of the high level deltoid contractions (example. excessive superior humeral head migration that can cause impingement), I would definitely not go out of my way to reduce supraspinatus activity.

  • @rcmp09
    @rcmp09 5 лет назад +1

    If you want to maximize the resistance curves for the dumbbell lateral I would actually recommend leaning the opposite way. The lean described in the video at around 3:40 actually still has the same problems as the normal standing lateral raise. In both cases, the external torque on the shoulder is increasing in a linear fashion as you go towards 90 degrees of shoulder abduction with peak torque occurring at the very end. Which is still wasting the first half of the ROM with extremely low tension. I would actually recommend a lean in the opposite direction by putting yourself into a tilt of around 45 degrees to the other side. Pretty much as if you were in a side plank with your L arm on a bench or other elevated object while doing the lateral raise with the dumbbell on the R arm. This gives you a bell shaped torque curve with 45 degrees of abduction (middle of the ROM for the exercise) being peak torque. This provides more tension throughout the ROM, similar to the cable lateral raise, which is also very effective.

  • @cryptoblue2835
    @cryptoblue2835 5 лет назад +2

    That’s my training in the gym for years now, and I super set them. I’m the only person who does this. I feel great I have been doing something good.

  • @sundars390
    @sundars390 5 лет назад +178

    Video on muscle imbalances

    • @AnastasisHat
      @AnastasisHat 5 лет назад +5

      yes pls!!

    • @jas6853
      @jas6853 5 лет назад

      All genetics

    • @Yumadlol
      @Yumadlol 5 лет назад +4

      Check your form, always start with the weak side, simply do more reps on the weaker one

    • @D4RKDJBJ
      @D4RKDJBJ 4 года назад +3

      FACE PULLS

  • @rachelgonzales2345
    @rachelgonzales2345 4 года назад

    I tried the techs he posted for wider biceps. Felt the difference in one day !

  • @mixxtyy
    @mixxtyy 5 лет назад +1

    I just did my shoulder's day today before I came across this video, and dayum I thought I was maximising it. Looks like I gotta go back to the gym, thanks for this video!

  • @2ndLastStarfighter
    @2ndLastStarfighter 3 года назад +2

    Awesome, even the smallest details can add so much. Totally feel the difference after just changing my thumbgrip on this exercise and "mentally" leading with the elbows. Cheers!

  • @matthewfoley887
    @matthewfoley887 5 лет назад +2

    Last tip i particular was a great one. Thanks!

  • @kilplayer
    @kilplayer 5 лет назад

    Pushing out rather than lifting the weight up was an amazing little mental cue. It instantly improved my mind muscle connection!

  • @blackforest1420
    @blackforest1420 5 лет назад

    What. Just before i saw this vid, I was standing in the mirror, enjoying my progress after 2 months of your full body 3 days a week program. I just love it! And i wast just thinking that I want bigger shoulders. Then i go open my phone and this vid pops up! Whats the chance about that?! I just love and enjoy your work, and it would be absolutely amasing if you'd put up one video like this for each and every exercise in the full body program! Love, Petter from Norway.

  • @sam117mas
    @sam117mas 5 лет назад +3

    I've been using my traps too much while doing lateral raises thanks Jeremy!

  • @stamosstamos979
    @stamosstamos979 3 года назад

    You are doing the best job with proofs and studies bravooo

  • @ouroboros6125
    @ouroboros6125 5 лет назад +2

    Being a tall skinny guy, shoulders was always my biggest challenge. I don't work out anymore but around 10 years ago when I did, I had been working out for 1 year with depressingly sad almost non-existing shoulder progress while the rest of my body progressed nicely. It actually got awkward. So I faced my fears and asked these two huge bodybuilder types in my gym for advice on that, and they were more than happy to help me out. Turns out my technique had some minor issues which they corrected (and which you covered in your video here), but the biggest problem was lifting too heavy. So since we were training at the same time each day they had me join in with them on shoulders. By lowering the weight substantially, and with them pushing me. Training shoulders felt way more intense and explosive, and after working out like this - for the first time ever I could feel muscle burn in my shoulders. I continued to train weights for 2 years after that before I had to quit but my shoulders improved a lot and I finally started to get mass in my shoulders when I lowered the weights.
    Basically. I was unconsciously cheating to reach a set+rep quota, and just barely. Hardly hitting my shoulders properly at all. So the biggest advice with shoulders imo, start way lower. You want to go lighter than you think. I know this counts for everything when it comes to building muscle, but for shoulders in particular lifting too heavy when you start out is a death sentence for your gains.

  • @basketgiants
    @basketgiants 5 лет назад +2

    Another great video, Jeremy!! Definitely improving with time, that's amazing. Congrats!

  • @normanlugo787
    @normanlugo787 5 лет назад

    Great video Jeremy 💪🏼😎

  • @JimManeri
    @JimManeri 5 лет назад

    Man you are RIGHT ON with form education. I’m an experienced movement professional who trains and usually watch such videos to scoff. You however, nailed it. Kudos.

  • @DG-zi8lc
    @DG-zi8lc 3 года назад

    Love your channel mate, fantastic.

  • @HengHuiMei
    @HengHuiMei 5 лет назад +5

    I admire women with wide shoulders too, shows they work out!

  • @gapwedge11
    @gapwedge11 5 лет назад

    Another tip for dumb bell lateral raises is to stop on the downward move to about 30 degrees from your side keeping tension in the movement. Less weight is needed if this is practiced. I see so many people swinging the dumb bells with momentum from bending the knees to aid in the swing up. Not doing the delts any good. Just MHO. I also incorporate the cable as you did with the body lean. Nice vid.

  • @hectorsosa2423
    @hectorsosa2423 5 лет назад

    Great video! Just what I needed

  • @SquatSimp
    @SquatSimp 5 лет назад +1

    Wow I learned A LOT in this video. Thank you Jeremy!

  • @Sophiaa1234
    @Sophiaa1234 5 лет назад +1

    Great stuff, I neglected shoulders for a while due to a rotator cuff injury, but watching this video really motivated me to get back at working the shoulders...Its really about proper form and range of motion like u explained in the video. Very helpful, thanks for the tips...

  • @anthonyscott16
    @anthonyscott16 4 года назад +1

    This lesson is going to be really useful. Thanks for the tips!

  • @jaysanthebeard1980
    @jaysanthebeard1980 5 лет назад

    Leading with the elbows was a huge tip for me. I typically have this clicking sensation whenever I do Side Delt Raises. By leading with the elbows, I no longer have that sensation and its soooooo much better. Thanks, bruh!

  • @wx..
    @wx.. 5 лет назад +10

    I appreciate you for playing Lakey Inspired in the background for your videos haha

  • @clorox1676
    @clorox1676 5 лет назад

    I just subbed to your channel. Besides the usefull information and how extremely well presented the information is, I just looooooooooooooove how calm and focused your narration is through the whole thing. There are a lot of fitness related youtubers who are a little overexcited and literally scream through the whole video.

  • @user-cr2fk1cf2e
    @user-cr2fk1cf2e 4 года назад

    너의 강의가 마음에 든다. Great teaching

  • @ian5255
    @ian5255 4 года назад

    I am watching every single video of urs and man.. ur gittin me huuuuuge ty😳😍😍😍

  • @mannygalaviz1152
    @mannygalaviz1152 5 лет назад

    Your videos are always so helpful and well thought out, you not only give examples of exercises and proper technique but also explain the science behind it and cite your sources. It gives off a vibe as if these videos are a project for a degree in kinesiology or something. To top it off you’re extremely attractive and seem to have a kind personality :) I wish you the best in your life and give you my endless gratitude for helping me create a workout routine I feel confident in.

  • @xrestingbatface
    @xrestingbatface 5 лет назад

    I have very big traps compared to my shoulders and it is because my traps take over during my exercices! Great tips! it makes so much sense! can't wait to try this!

  • @rajivriccardo
    @rajivriccardo 5 лет назад

    Great videos so well thought out

  • @mxrkb10
    @mxrkb10 5 лет назад +46

    yooo early squad where u at? #grinding

  • @saybrew
    @saybrew 5 лет назад +2

    Hey man new subscriber here! Stumbled on one of your vids and was immediately hooked! Awesome info and content homie! Keep up the great work ✊🏽✊🏽

  • @shivang899
    @shivang899 4 года назад +1

    Thanks bro👍👍

  • @masonferguson21
    @masonferguson21 5 лет назад

    Never watched a main you tuber that threw crazy good info like you did bro

  • @IFallGames
    @IFallGames 5 лет назад +1

    awesome video thank you for the detail, subbed!

  • @jacobs3614
    @jacobs3614 5 лет назад +37

    Can you do part 2 of all your science based workouts like you did with full body?

  • @ravon1982
    @ravon1982 5 лет назад

    makes alot a sense when you put it like that. cheers man gotta make that extra 20% count

  • @robinsmith4958
    @robinsmith4958 4 года назад

    Great information! Thank you so much! I am building a new superset routine and today is shoulders!!

  • @csanad10
    @csanad10 5 лет назад +1

    Great vid man! Thanks

  • @suppalerkpoonsawat4060
    @suppalerkpoonsawat4060 5 лет назад

    Well done Jeremy

  • @MarelisaFabrega
    @MarelisaFabrega 5 лет назад +5

    Jeremy: Your videos are incredibly helpful. I'm definitely going to incorporate everything you taught us here on my next shoulder day. Thank you!

  • @portalkey5283
    @portalkey5283 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you Jeremy! This helps as I always found shoulder training to be the most challenging.

  • @bire85
    @bire85 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the details

  • @noodlesoup94
    @noodlesoup94 5 лет назад

    Great video!

  • @DiaXisHD
    @DiaXisHD 5 лет назад

    I'm glad you made this video. I started doing the exact method last week because it felt right.

  • @GalinPanchev
    @GalinPanchev 2 года назад

    Very nice video!

  • @palgang5549
    @palgang5549 5 лет назад

    Great video! subbed 👍

  • @arindamnaskar589
    @arindamnaskar589 5 лет назад

    your editing has been top-notch since the beginning..truly eye opening facts..Thanks once again, Jeremy

  • @lol_sergiu
    @lol_sergiu 5 лет назад +4

    "Wider, broader--"
    *staring at the biceps then hears the word Shoulders* lol

  • @PreppingWithSarge
    @PreppingWithSarge 5 лет назад

    Awesome video! Ty!

  • @knowledgedaily1173
    @knowledgedaily1173 3 года назад

    Another quality video from Jeremy.

  • @adrianavalos4861
    @adrianavalos4861 5 лет назад

    Great info!!! Keep them videos coming!!

  • @Erick-yh4ou
    @Erick-yh4ou 4 года назад

    good video very professional thanks for this imformation

  • @priyankadebnath8804
    @priyankadebnath8804 2 года назад

    Jeremy, you literally saved my life..... ❤️

  • @joesinger4090
    @joesinger4090 5 лет назад

    One of the best fitness youtubers. Fantastic content!

  • @udfranksta
    @udfranksta 5 лет назад

    Another great video. Nice work Jeremy!

  • @yddx1721
    @yddx1721 5 лет назад

    trying this out tonight, thanks.

  • @CDtobe
    @CDtobe 5 лет назад

    Youre the best mate.

  • @marcelgreen6544
    @marcelgreen6544 5 лет назад

    Great video Jeremy and great explanation on why to tilt away from the pole when doing cable raises. Always wondered why some people did that.

  • @Spaceman2484
    @Spaceman2484 5 лет назад

    Super quality vid👍

  • @eduardowilson2067
    @eduardowilson2067 5 лет назад

    Awesome new video format, top notch info as always

  • @dimitridante2418
    @dimitridante2418 4 года назад

    I have to say, This gentleman is by far the best trainer, teacher,etc in working out etc, Ive seen a lot of videos of other "experts' but they dont come close. Jeremy, Goes by clinical trials which tells you in black and white, what works and what doesnt work instead of wasting time and money in the gym doing everything wrong. Im blown away. ps, the dislikes are probably from soy boys like Antifa that are against working out

  • @Mjzzz11
    @Mjzzz11 5 лет назад

    wow this is next level training

  • @frankhernandez6578
    @frankhernandez6578 3 года назад

    Great video, thanks

  • @patrick2530
    @patrick2530 5 лет назад

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @tristerr123
    @tristerr123 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for this! I learned a lot and corrected my mistakes. Cheers

  • @ramonbs6075
    @ramonbs6075 5 лет назад

    Awesome video and editing! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @waelabdalshafy79
    @waelabdalshafy79 5 лет назад

    I.like ur videos man...easy and useful

  • @parapilot09
    @parapilot09 5 лет назад +2

    Jeff Cavalier of AthleanX says the way you instruct people to do lateral raises in this video can be a serious cause of shoulder impingement.

    • @Mike-he7bw
      @Mike-he7bw 5 лет назад

      I believe Jeff Cavalier is correct.

  • @joeshky
    @joeshky 5 лет назад

    Really appreciate the research you do in ur videos man