The Most Common Mistake We See. Buying a Tzero MKIII Instead of a T/5x

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @robertholcomb5450
    @robertholcomb5450 Год назад +7

    I've owned two t9s for 9 years. It's the only component in my system I've never had the desire to upgrade. 100% happy still today! Thank you for doing what you do!

  • @JohnMeyer-sq8to
    @JohnMeyer-sq8to Год назад +13

    Follow his suggestions. Their website is loaded with information and if you have any questions reach out to them. I was a little unsure when trying to select what I thought I needed so I emailed them all my specs and explained what I was looking for. They promptly replied with their recommendation with an in depth explanation of why and how to hook it up to my system. No up sale pressure either. They suggested a lesser expensive model from what I was thinking. I purchased the recommended sub and I couldn’t be happier. Fantastic sub and customer service!

  • @brianlewis5042
    @brianlewis5042 Год назад +2

    Excellent point made. Often we, including myself, never seek out the right information and ask the wrong questions. The truth is the truth.

  • @wagnerlopez9451
    @wagnerlopez9451 Год назад +3

    I saw one of these videos before and that's why I decided to purchase the Tzero MKIII, I got a pair of 4“ bookshelfs on my desktop and needed good quality bass for my music. So far I love it and couldn't be happier.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +3

      Thank you for sharing, and the Tzero MKIII is an excellent choice for pairing with small bookshelf speakers in a desktop system. We hope that you continue to enjoy it's performance in your system, though if you have any questions then feel free to let us know and we will be happy to assist.

  • @ValdiDemetlika
    @ValdiDemetlika 11 месяцев назад +2

    I paired the T Zero Mk III with my Elac B6.2 speakers in a small room and they are a perfect match! The T Zero brings the music foundation in the bass region even at lower volumes, and this was my intention. The bass is defined and seamlessly blends in with the main speakers, there is no boomy sound. All in all I'm very happy with my pourchase.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for sharing, and we are glad to hear that you are enjoying the performance of the Tzero MKIII in your system! If anything comes up or if you have any questions then feel free to let us know and we will be happy to assist.

  • @kylereed3577
    @kylereed3577 Год назад +2

    I contacted you about a zero compared to the 5 for my Vandersteen VLR Wood speakers. You said that the 5 would be better for my room size, am I glad you did because this is one of the best systems I have owned. I love your speakers and tell everyone that asks to buy a REL and get the recommendation from REL as to which size. Thanks for making such a great speaker.

  • @bartomiejrozbicki242
    @bartomiejrozbicki242 8 месяцев назад +2

    Your products are ABSOLUTELY brilliant. For an audio system based on bookshelf speakers, it's one of the most important components. I would recommend it to anyone. Not because of bass purposes (that too) but general sound quality and soundstage improvement - best buy. 💯

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think that is what most folks never consider, or even understand, the soundstage and sound quality improvement that a pair of subs can bring to a two channel audio setup. It is not about booms and bangs, it is about balancing the sound, to blend in those lower frequencies with the midrange and highs, so that the sound is pleasing to the ears, the fullness and richness. You do not want to "hear" the subs. A well tuned in sub will not be identifiable in the room.

  • @Im-over-9000
    @Im-over-9000 Год назад +2

    I paired a REL S510 with my KEF R3 stand mount speakers and they go so well together 🤗

  • @P1_M1ND
    @P1_M1ND Год назад +5

    3k in speakers. Gave the left and right channels a T9i and a T5X just for the center channel. Oh my gosh. Unbelievable sound. Rel for life.

    • @rayking507
      @rayking507 Год назад

      Do you have subwoofer for the LFE channel or are you using the T9i for the LFE as well.

    • @P1_M1ND
      @P1_M1ND Год назад

      @@rayking507 Marantz cinema series. T9i is set up for main sub output for LFE and general sub bass. The T5X is strictly hooked up directly to the center channel. It makes the center channel really open up.

  • @miguelcontreras3953
    @miguelcontreras3953 Год назад +1

    Agree, I used the REL website before the purchase of the TZero MKIII. It matches perfectly with a Monitor Audio Silver 100s and Peachtree Nova 150.

  • @jaycoleman8062
    @jaycoleman8062 Месяц назад

    I have a pair of T-5X subs running with my McIntosh MA-252 and XR50 speakers and the soundstage is wonderful. I notice a huge improvement in the, I think they call them Infrasounds. The bottom end is so full and doesn't boom. The fit and finish is fantastic as well. The ebony finish matches my main speakers as well. 😊

  • @mbvx7
    @mbvx7 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just got my Tzero! It is exactly what I wanted. Hooked up via High level . Great little sub.

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright1602 7 месяцев назад +2

    I own two SVS SB3000 subs, and a pair of these little T-Zero MKIII subs... This is in an "L" shaped dining/living room, roughly 630 square feet of floor space, wood floors, big rugs, 9 foot ceiling with a 15' x 6' window in the front, and another 10' x 5' bay window at the back of the room, both with sheer curtains. The down firing RELs are on the bare wood floor.
    I currently have the SVS unplugged, not in play at all. I am running a pair of the Maggie LRS+ speakers, using an active crossover set at around 80-90hz. So, everything above that 80-90 is going to the Maggies, everything below, is going to the REL T-Zero MKIII subs. I am getting some ridiculous bass in this room with these two tiny subs. I have turned them down twice, and right now they are about near off in regards to the volume setting @ around 9 o'clock on both while also adjusting the crossover. I am using RCA cables to both subs as I am using that active crossover. I can feel the bass through the floor and they are pressurizing the room. I hate that word, "pressurizing", but you get my drift. I'm still tuning these babies in, almost there, they are just about invisible and blending well.
    I found these little RELs used on US AudioMart for $500, for the pair. I am totally blown away with these stupid little subs, as they are more than enough for my particular room. I don't know what to do with the SVS SB3000's, I don't need them. For what it is worth. Your room will have quite a bit to do with how the bass sounds and or performs. Rooms matter. Bottom line, these little subs may be all you need for at least music. I can see using these little RELs for movie night too, they are that good.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for sharing, and we are glad to hear that you are enjoying the performance of the Tzero MKIII subwoofers in your system! If anything comes up or if you have any questions about them then feel free to write in to contacts@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist.

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@RELAcoustics I am simply blown away at the amount of tight and clean bass these little guys can produce. I really tuned them in yesterday and was shocked at how good these sound. And the best part, you do not hear them in the room.

  • @MsCorbacho
    @MsCorbacho 7 месяцев назад +2

    I have had the T zero mk3 , and now have a rel t5x , working with a harbeth p3esr 40th anniversary ,while the t5x sounds broader , more expansive , it breathes better , and of course goes lower , I had to say ( for the p3esr ) the t zero mk3 was in general more indicated , it really worked like a true extension from the speakers, it was also a bit more quick and agile ,
    It made the perfect complement ( also loudness wise) for the p3esr .
    Having said this , am I going to change it ,….no ,
    Why ? Once I got used to the signature of the t5x , even if it is harder to better dial in with the p3 esr with the 5x , i get a more broader picture of events ,
    Let’s say the t zero is like a lens that has sharp focus , but It is restricted in the field of vision , while the t5x has maybe a bit less focus , but the field of vision is deeper , wider , it engulfs you more in the landscape

    • @is3commander
      @is3commander 3 месяца назад

      Hi!
      I have XD version and T7x - bit overkill now. But I will be moving to larger room.

  • @s4uk218
    @s4uk218 26 дней назад

    I've just bought a pair of Kef R3 Meta speakers and a REL T9X, not had the chance to get it all connected due to house renovations but hope I've done the right thing as your website suggests the T7X?

  • @robertward3362
    @robertward3362 Год назад +1

    I purchased a pair of rel s/510 to go with my focal Sopra 2 , I know your web site recommends the model up but cost was an issue and I wanted to pair them. Been playing around with them for only one night so far , but I don’t think I’m far off the mark already. Certainly added bloom and body so far. Still have a little tweaking to do tonight!! Happy days👍🕺

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +1

      Thank you for sharing, and we are glad to hear that you are enjoying the performance of the S/510s in your system! If you have any questions about your RELs then feel free to let us know and we will be happy to assist.

  • @mikhailkonrad
    @mikhailkonrad 2 месяца назад +1

    Hello team REL,
    Which of these two would be best paired with Q Acoustics Concept 20s?
    They are not available for speaker pairing on your website.
    The speakers are under $1000, have 5" drivers, and go as low as 64Hz - closer to T-Zero's crossover level, according to Mr Hunter himself.
    Some reviewers say they put out good bass for bookshelf speakers, but I am never 100% satisfied with the lower end, in any style.
    Medium sized living room (at best).
    So, am I looking at a T-Zero, or should I go bigger?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for reaching out, and for your interest in REL Acoustics subwoofers. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net with this information about your speakers, and the dimensions of your room, and our team will be happy to assist with subwoofer pairing advice specific to your system.

  • @fascinatedbyeverything
    @fascinatedbyeverything Год назад +5

    Nice video, and a brave one - one question though (and maybe this is an idea for another video): In your Tzero vs. T5x video you suggest the Tzero might be better suited for small speakers because you say the T5x wants a crossover point of 40-45 hz. But there are tons are of $350+, or even $1000+, speakers that aren't designed to go much lower than 60 to 90 hz. Maybe people are afraid to buy anything bigger than a Tzero (or T5x) because they're worried your bigger more expensive models won't reach high enough (?). Maybe that's a purchasing consideration you can address in another video.

    • @razisn
      @razisn Год назад

      In this case change your speakers before investing in a good sub or invest in a price appropriate cheap sub.. I know of no good speaker which only goes to 90Hz in room. In any case there is no issue crossing the T5 or even larger REL subs at 80Hz or 100Hz, though I can't see why you would want to do that with good speakers...

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +6

      Thank you for reaching out. While the Tzero MKIII can be crossed over somewhat higher than the T/5x, there is no issue with setting the crossover dial on a T/5x as high as 90Hz if this is what it takes to blend well with your main loudspeakers.

  • @BigMan-ey8lk
    @BigMan-ey8lk 5 месяцев назад +1

    T5x and monitor audio is a perfect mix.

  • @mattkalis1567
    @mattkalis1567 Год назад +3

    I totally agree with everything said. Great video! Love my T0. But I will whine about the title of the video. I don’t think that the video quite addresses the title, which implies a more direct conversation around the T0 vs T5

  • @brentcollins9727
    @brentcollins9727 Год назад

    I have the T5 with Sonus Faber Sonetto 3’s out of my McIntosh MA352 in a medium room and it sounds superb. I turn up the mid-bass on the equalizer and set the REL to 65.

  • @a555un
    @a555un Год назад +2

    seems like a backhanded response to recent measurements on the tzero, which revealed that it is not so much a “sub”woofer

    • @KXP70
      @KXP70 Год назад

      Have you got a link to what you're referring to?

    • @povertyspec9651
      @povertyspec9651 6 месяцев назад

      It's not possible for such a tiny box to be a true subwoofer unless they change the laws of physics!

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 6 месяцев назад

      @@povertyspec9651 Have you heard one, or a pair of these T-Zero subs? I own a pair, along with a pair of the SVS SB3000's in a medium sized room. The T-Zero subs, used with an active crossover, dig incredibly deep. And they do it without bloat and or decay, they are quick on the draw, and holstering. When I first unboxed them I thought WTF did I just do? These things are tiny, around the size of a muskmelon. I plugged them in where the SVS SB3000's reside, plugged them in via RCA to my active crossover, fired everything up, tuned to ear and was blown away with the sound quality. These little subs are beyond impressive, I was listening to a cello dig deep, I could feel it in the room. Everything I have thrown at them, with a pair of Magnepans, has sounded incredible. No comparison with the SB3000's, which sound a bit slow and bloated next to the little RELs. Then the overall soundstage, it is just bigger with the RELs, as they so easily blend in with the Maggies. I need to try these with my Zu's, and the active crossover, which was the icing on the cake and really brought this two channel system together.

  • @alanhiebert3548
    @alanhiebert3548 Год назад +1

    i run two Tzeros with Aria 906's in a small room, awesome!

  • @mothertoad560
    @mothertoad560 Год назад +2

    I just recently bought a rel t7x with KEF ls50 wireless 2 😳 Holy cheese balls it sounds amazing

    • @andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748
      @andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 Год назад

      not should , should feel , i can give some easy hints how , i think i mentioned in many ranting live videos of last , no week so

  • @wadimek116
    @wadimek116 Год назад

    Actually no matter what sub I believe it should be at least worth the same as your front speakers or even more. A pair for the same price is also alright, thats because subs are much more expensive than speakers because of integrated amp and they need bigger cone areas than main speakers optimally or at least more of them. Otherwise they probably will run out of juice much faster than fronts. The subwoofer driver is usually much more expensive than normal drivers to.

  • @jeffreypicciolo7706
    @jeffreypicciolo7706 Год назад

    a candid and thoughtful video, well done.

  • @CinemaDemocratica
    @CinemaDemocratica 4 месяца назад

    I have exactly the opposite problem from the one described in this video: I'm getting a pair of AirPulse A300 Pro powered monitors (by Edifier) in about six weeks, and I'm super-excited about them but they don't reach down *quite* far enough, so I need a REL. But I live in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, where the default construction technique is poured concrete, and my listening room is only 270cm across the front by about 470cm deep, with neighbors cozily proximate. Seems to me the T5/x might be ... almost ... too much?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.

    • @CinemaDemocratica
      @CinemaDemocratica 4 месяца назад

      @@RELAcoustics WOW, thank you!

  • @audiopain
    @audiopain 2 месяца назад

    In your site when i put my speakers (DALI Spektor 2) on the speaker/sub pairing it says that i need a T5/x. here you say that i need a t/z mkiii. i m confused... i use my setup on a desktop near field mainly for music listening.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to discuss your room and system, and determine which of our subwoofer models will be the best match for pairing with your Dali speakers.

  • @MrOliver1444
    @MrOliver1444 8 месяцев назад

    Nice honest video. I like it a lot.

  • @harleyman871
    @harleyman871 8 месяцев назад +2

    Recently added a T Zero mk3 to my system of a Rotel A11 tribute and Polk R100's which resulted in a more audio enhancement than a subwoofer sound, I'm perfectly fine with this as it made my modest system sound sweeter without any of that boomy sub sound.

  • @connorduke4619
    @connorduke4619 8 месяцев назад

    The actual issue was not so much that the T-zero could not "keep up", but that the B&W 802 D2 simply plays around 20Hz lower than the T-zero, so that sub model added no sonic value.

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 6 месяцев назад +1

      You need to run an active crossover, it will make a world of difference in the overall sound quality of those speakers with the right pair of subs. There are several good crossovers out there, Rolls and Sublime Acoustic are two... A good starter crossover is the Rolls SX45, cut the frequency around 80hz, some like 65hz, or 90hz. Feed the Low frequencies to the subs via RCA, high frequencies to your amplifier. This will take the stress off of your amplifier and really allow your speakers to breathe with the stress of the lower frequencies being pushed off to the subs. It can be a night and day difference in overall sound quality.

    • @connorduke4619
      @connorduke4619 6 месяцев назад

      @@michaelwright1602 Good insight. However the tradeoff is adding another distorting component between the Dac and preamp. I have the Dynaudio 9S sub, which has a built-in crossover, but the manufacturer advises not to place it before the preamp and only to use it to connect a second sub.

  • @user-gz6tx6yp3v
    @user-gz6tx6yp3v 8 месяцев назад

    I'm looking forward to finally being able to afford a decent HI FI system, and my eye is on a T9X as I want the system to be 50/50 music/movies.
    I am trying to make sure that at low volumes, I get good sound and dynamics still without high volume, is this a good choice or would an S510 be better at lower volumes?
    Thanks!

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out. Both the T/9x and the S/510 can perform well at low output levels, though the S/510 has more amplifier headroom which means that it can play louder than the T/9x.
      If you would like assistance with determining the best subwoofer option for your home audio system, then at your earliest convenience please write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.

    • @user-gz6tx6yp3v
      @user-gz6tx6yp3v 8 месяцев назад

      @@RELAcoustics Great thanks I will do that.

  • @nocnymarek7645
    @nocnymarek7645 11 месяцев назад

    Dear Team,
    My system is Magnat MR780 (hybrid) + Heco Celan Revolution 3 (shelf speakers).
    My needs are specific : get space, deepness and better reproduction of smooth soft base of cello, double bass, bass guitar, tenir sax, voice.
    Percussion punch is always welcome nut it is not priority.
    So I am looking for "Leonard Cohen" effect.
    I listem 90 % jazz and vocal ( Houston Person, Ben Webster, Diana Krall, Patricia Barber) and I listen very low, very quite.
    Room approx 25-27 sqm.
    My devicer are not listed on yours Web site so please advice if may I try with 9ne or two T Zero?
    Because of problems with space this could be best solution but what do you think about sound?
    Please advice.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out, and for your interest in REL Acoustics subwoofers! When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net with this information and our team will be happy to provide a pairing recommendation specific to your system.

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have a pair of the T-Zeros in a larger room, using a pair of Magnepans, and have never heard a cello dig so deep. And I have larger subs too, these T-Zero units continue to impress with the Maggies, the T-Zeros are staying. One tip, use an active crossover, that will in most cases create a night and day difference in overall sound quality. I currently have the Rolls SX45 in my system, my Sublime Acoustic crossover is in the mail right now. I cut my frequency at around 80hz, the music has never sounded so good.

    • @nocnymarek7645
      @nocnymarek7645 6 месяцев назад

      @@michaelwright1602
      Thanks for answer.
      I 've got advice from Rel also and they adviced go to T5x rather than T0.
      Must check your Rolls also.

  • @Geenbullshit
    @Geenbullshit 8 месяцев назад

    @RELAcoustics wich subwoofer version is the best for the polk r400 center speaker to combine? The tzero III, x5 ,x7, x9 or the predator 1510 ii....

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  8 месяцев назад +1

      When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.

  • @christianschindler9602
    @christianschindler9602 7 месяцев назад

    Can you tell me the best settings for Level and Crossover for Pro-ject Speakers 5 S2 and the Tx5? Thanx a lot

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately it is difficult for us to recommend specific Crossover dial settings, since the low-frequency roll-off point of your speakers will vary from room to room, and in our experience the best results are achieved by tuning the Crossover by-ear. We recommend starting with the Crossover dial set low, and with a familiar reference track playing slowly raise the dial until you hear an overlap with your main loudspeakers, which will result in boomy and muddy output. Once you hear this, you can lower the Crossover back down by 1-2 clicks on the dial to restore a more seamless transition.

  • @AbsoluteFidelity
    @AbsoluteFidelity Год назад

    Thinking about pairing 2 x No.32 to the Sony SSCS5

  • @clementajaegbu6660
    @clementajaegbu6660 Год назад

    Can’t say I agree with all your posts; however this one is very well said 🤨👌👌

  • @L.A-h5s
    @L.A-h5s Год назад

    Rel are excellent no doubt about it.
    Regarding the high level connection marketing I think it is due to tgat every amplifier has speakers level output and not all have preout outputs . I think if every amplifier had low level output them REL would have been marketing rhe LOW level connection.
    All of those connections are good . Low level is jast as good as high level connection if not better in certain cases.

  • @tinalamphier4024
    @tinalamphier4024 Год назад +2

    Twenty thousand dollar speakers and a five hundred dollar sub really

  • @manumedina8917
    @manumedina8917 7 месяцев назад

    Hola que tal , tengo unos Dynaudio excite 14 , escucho rock que tal se vee con un rel TzeroMKIII ,, gracias

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. If this system is used in a small enclosed room then the Tzero MKIII can be a good match for pairing with your Dynaudio Excite 14 speakers, though for use in a medium to large room we would recommend the T/5x as being the preferred option.

    • @manumedina8917
      @manumedina8917 6 месяцев назад

      @@RELAcoustics mil gracias

  • @IanKnight40
    @IanKnight40 6 месяцев назад

    Well said.

  • @simonecionco1565
    @simonecionco1565 3 месяца назад

    Meglio 2 t0 o 1 t9x per musica in una stanza di 18mq?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for reaching out. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.

  • @andreafluid
    @andreafluid Год назад

    mkIII go well with kef lsx2?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out, and yes the Tzero MKIII can pair well with the KEF LSX2 speakers in a small listening space.

  • @D1N02
    @D1N02 Год назад

    how about 2 Tzero MKIII's vs 1 T/5x?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +2

      Thank you for reaching out. In some cases a pair of Tzero MK.IIIs can be a better option than a single T/5x, though in other cases the single T/5x will be the preferred option. It all depends on the main loudspeakers that you are using, and other aspects of your room and equipment.
      When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.

  • @Pentenfi
    @Pentenfi Год назад

    There appear to be too many people being both wealthy and pretty uneducated.
    The output capability of subwoofers comes down do basic physics: "how much air can it move?"

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 6 месяцев назад

      The room will have a greater effect on the actual sound. I am continually amazed at what two of these little T-Zeros can actually do. I am seriously considering boxing up my pair of SVS SB3000's. Seriously.

  • @HongNguyen-my5oq
    @HongNguyen-my5oq Год назад

    I would say if room and budget allow get dual no.32. End of story

  • @michaelr1624
    @michaelr1624 Год назад

    What an emotional video.