Shop charges differ. Springs are generally $125 for the forks as a pair and $125 for a shock spring. Brands have higher prices eg: Ohlins. Fork and shock oil services are mandatory and are generally $150 plus parts for the pair of forks and the same price for the shock. Valving kits can range from $350 to $700 depending on brand. Street bikes need the suspension oil changed regularly (5k forks, 10K shock). Springs are mandatory if it is clear they are needed! Dave Moss Host
@gp4289 Forks: preload 6 turns in, rebound 1 turn out compression 1-1.5 turns out. Shock: preload one more than stock (yellow dot), compression and rebound the same as the forks. A lot of settings depend on fork and shock oil age, gearing, tire sizes etc. Dave Moss Host
@spencer3336 Hi Mike, try these settings: - 2010 ZX6R fork preload at zero, compression at 5 turns out, rebound at 3.75 turns out shock preload 2 turns softer, hs compression at 2 turns out, ls compression 2.75 turns out, rebound at 2 turns out - 1098 fork preload at 6 turns out from max, compression at 7 cliks out, rebound at 8 clicks out shock preload plus 1 turn stiffer, compression at 8 clicks out, rebound 8 clicks in from full soft Cheersm Dave Moss Host
Go with factory recommended fork oil provided the forks have not been revlaved. If you are almost all the way in on settings you can use a little heavier with fork oil from 5w to 7 or 10w. If the forks have been revalved almost always it is 5w.
@deerman1212 yes you should make some changes. You'll need most of the fork preload and compression and set rebound to .5 of a turn from max. The shock should have a couple more turns of preload with compression being close to max. Rebound should be fine. All of these settings do of course depend on the age of the oil, mileage of the bike, linkage and head bearing condition etc. Dave Moss Host
@naminseniazei I spent many happy vacations in the Greek Islands and yes, I would love to take a trip back there again. Get enough riders together and I am sure the expenses could be covered! Dave Moss Host
Dave love what you do man. what would you Recommend the settings be for 2006 Honda CBR600RR? daily rider and twistie bike. 160lbs with just helmet and jacket. thanks.
@CRELLIOTT0302 You need much stiffer springs for the front and rear due to your weight. I need the mileage of the bike and fork and shock oil age to get better settings, but....... Fork preload - add it all and come back 5 turns Fork rebound - add it all and come back 2 turns Fork compression - add it all and come back 1-1.5 turns Shock preload - add 2 turns of preload Shock compression - add it all and come back 1.5 turns Shock rebound - add it all and come back 1-1.5 turns Dave Moss Host
@beartubeyou1234 move the forks in the tripls so there's 7mm sowing above the upper triple clamp. Set compression at 5 turn out, rebound at 4.5 turns out. Leave the shock preload alone, high speed compression t 2 turns out, low speed compression at 3 turns out. Leave rebound alone, Dave Moss host
Do you have any experience with Matris suspension? I just got a used F05R cartridges and M05R shock for my cbr600rr 08 and i have no clue where to start or what oil to use. Much appreciated
@CRELLIOTT0302 at this point I would change the fork springs to 1.0kg straight rate. Te stock shock spring might work, so fix the front first :) Will look for your email with your answers. Dave Moss Host
@ghost31711 thanks to OTT for the making of posting of ! 09 R1 will be as follows Forks add all preload and come back 5 turns set rebound at 16 clicks out set compression at 12 clicks out Shock add all the preload and come back 7-8 turns set low speed compression at 12-14 out set high speed compression at 1.5 turns out set rebound at 13-16 clicks out donations for settings can be placed via my home page at crstuning Thanks! Dave Moss Host
hi Dave, -2009 ducati 1198s (stock ohlins suspension) -120 lbs (54 kg) with full gear please help! i'd appreciate any advice you can give me with regard to preload/compression/rebound settings.. thanks :)
Hi Dave, i was wondering if you could possibly help, i have a 2011 gsxr 600, stocks suspension, i weigh 210ish pounds, could you please throw some suspension settings my way, as i do not know myself, and it is very hard to find the information online. Thannks. Mason.
you need to get on the bike to measure sag like he did. you want your sag around 30mm for street and 25mm for racing... set compression and rebound to stock then move each one up 1 click evenly. you should be able to feel how the suspension responds by pressing down on the bike like he does. you don't want it to rebound or compress to fast or to slow and want the rear to move at the same speed as the front. so you don't want the front and rear to be bouncing and different rates and shit haha
@GOBbluthagain If it's your first time, or even 5th time, you'll probably be fine with street sport tires. They'd probably only be banned in a race, not a simple track day.
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Shop charges differ. Springs are generally $125 for the forks as a pair and $125 for a shock spring. Brands have higher prices eg: Ohlins. Fork and shock oil services are mandatory and are generally $150 plus parts for the pair of forks and the same price for the shock. Valving kits can range from $350 to $700 depending on brand.
Street bikes need the suspension oil changed regularly (5k forks, 10K shock). Springs are mandatory if it is clear they are needed!
Dave Moss
Host
Dave, You're a great teacher. I'm learning to be patient and aware like you.
On another note Dave Thank You for all the great videos!
Yes, another the "K", good girl 😋.
Fantastic job mr Dave.
@gp4289 Forks: preload 6 turns in, rebound 1 turn out compression 1-1.5 turns out. Shock: preload one more than stock (yellow dot), compression and rebound the same as the forks. A lot of settings depend on fork and shock oil age, gearing, tire sizes etc.
Dave Moss
Host
@spencer3336 Hi Mike, try these settings:
- 2010 ZX6R
fork preload at zero, compression at 5 turns out, rebound at 3.75 turns out
shock preload 2 turns softer, hs compression at 2 turns out, ls compression 2.75 turns out, rebound at 2 turns out
- 1098
fork preload at 6 turns out from max, compression at 7 cliks out, rebound at 8 clicks out
shock preload plus 1 turn stiffer, compression at 8 clicks out, rebound 8 clicks in from full soft
Cheersm
Dave Moss
Host
Go with factory recommended fork oil provided the forks have not been revlaved. If you are almost all the way in on settings you can use a little heavier with fork oil from 5w to 7 or 10w. If the forks have been revalved almost always it is 5w.
@deerman1212 yes you should make some changes. You'll need most of the fork preload and compression and set rebound to .5 of a turn from max. The shock should have a couple more turns of preload with compression being close to max. Rebound should be fine. All of these settings do of course depend on the age of the oil, mileage of the bike, linkage and head bearing condition etc.
Dave Moss
Host
@GOBbluthagain No, street tires are not banned at the track.
@naminseniazei I spent many happy vacations in the Greek Islands and yes, I would love to take a trip back there again. Get enough riders together and I am sure the expenses could be covered!
Dave Moss
Host
Dave love what you do man. what would you Recommend the settings be for 2006 Honda CBR600RR? daily rider and twistie bike. 160lbs with just helmet and jacket. thanks.
@CRELLIOTT0302 You need much stiffer springs for the front and rear due to your weight. I need the mileage of the bike and fork and shock oil age to get better settings, but.......
Fork preload - add it all and come back 5 turns
Fork rebound - add it all and come back 2 turns
Fork compression - add it all and come back 1-1.5 turns
Shock preload - add 2 turns of preload
Shock compression - add it all and come back 1.5 turns
Shock rebound - add it all and come back 1-1.5 turns
Dave Moss
Host
Kristi is damn good looking and fast.....some guy must be really lucky!
@beartubeyou1234 move the forks in the tripls so there's 7mm sowing above the upper triple clamp. Set compression at 5 turn out, rebound at 4.5 turns out. Leave the shock preload alone, high speed compression t 2 turns out, low speed compression at 3 turns out. Leave rebound alone,
Dave Moss
host
I was talking about all the little settings you make to the body weight and stuff like so sag ect ect. Thanks for reply and help in advance!
Do you have any experience with Matris suspension? I just got a used F05R cartridges and M05R shock for my cbr600rr 08 and i have no clue where to start or what oil to use.
Much appreciated
How much does a shop charge to do this? Are these kind of mods a must have for street rides as well?
Do i need to worry about suspension settings for a 2004 GSXR 600 for just street riding? I weigh in at 215 full geared
@CRELLIOTT0302 at this point I would change the fork springs to 1.0kg straight rate. Te stock shock spring might work, so fix the front first :) Will look for your email with your answers.
Dave Moss
Host
So street tires are banned at the track??
@ghost31711 thanks to OTT for the making of posting of !
09 R1 will be as follows
Forks
add all preload and come back 5 turns
set rebound at 16 clicks out
set compression at 12 clicks out
Shock
add all the preload and come back 7-8 turns
set low speed compression at 12-14 out
set high speed compression at 1.5 turns out
set rebound at 13-16 clicks out
donations for settings can be placed via my home page at crstuning
Thanks!
Dave Moss
Host
@GOBbluthagain Not at most tracks, but when you are used to better tires, you can easily go past the limits of street tires and get in trouble.
hi Dave,
-2009 ducati 1198s (stock ohlins suspension)
-120 lbs (54 kg) with full gear
please help! i'd appreciate any advice you can give me with regard to preload/compression/rebound settings..
thanks :)
Hi Dave, i was wondering if you could possibly help, i have a 2011 gsxr 600, stocks suspension, i weigh 210ish pounds, could you please throw some suspension settings my way, as i do not know myself, and it is very hard to find the information online.
Thannks.
Mason.
you need to get on the bike to measure sag like he did. you want your sag around 30mm for street and 25mm for racing... set compression and rebound to stock then move each one up 1 click evenly. you should be able to feel how the suspension responds by pressing down on the bike like he does. you don't want it to rebound or compress to fast or to slow and want the rear to move at the same speed as the front. so you don't want the front and rear to be bouncing and different rates and shit haha
Thats a slick sob right there
counter clock wise is in??
@gp4289 from full soft for preload, full hard for hydraulics
@GOBbluthagain If it's your first time, or even 5th time, you'll probably be fine with street sport tires. They'd probably only be banned in a race, not a simple track day.
So when we change fork oil how do we know what one is best to use
It’s called testing. It will be different for everyone. Put the time in lazy ass.
Man, is she pretty. Sorry for off-topic.
@beartubeyou1234 please give me the year make model and your weight
Dave Moss
Host
@MaxPayne19146 righty tighty, left loosey. counter clockwise is out.
Please what's in and out ?
in = Clockwise
out = counter clockwise
tx boby boob
@OnTheThrottleTV email sent, thanks a lot
Those are street tires! No, no, no.
@cRuNkSB please contact me through dave(at)crstuning(dot).com What springs did you get, age of the oil, and your body weight?
Dave Moss
Host
a full racing bike with street tires?! that doesnt add up
AMA Daytona sport bike....look it brother
damn she is cute!!!! marry me!!!!
If you still don't know what the differences are between street en circuit tires,
what the hell on earth are you doing on the circuit?