@@trumtrum5136 More Hans Niemann characters running around in the world being more afraid to take responsibility for their actions than billionaires being afraid of taxes? No thanks.
He is not making a living being a journalist. It’s easy if your career is not hanging on every word you say or question you ask. But yeah, good for him making it honest.
Chess players often feel like they spent so much of their childhood focused on a boardgame they never developed people skills. Also, Hans was at a critical age for social development (16-17) during lockdown, and I believe he was living alone already at that age. We're watching an adult with the social development of a 15 year old. It's painful to watch.
Hans is smart, but he is immature and probably has felt cornered for the last 2 years, he's in a constant state of fight or flight. At least so far he has chosen fight, many people would have quit when it seemed the whole world was against him.
where was that respect when he was milking that anal beads story. guess he didn’t care about another human being as long as it was gaining him subscribers 😂
Guys let’s be fair. Hans is a revolutionary, the way he got demolished by Carlson and Nakamura was revolutionary. I’ve never seen anything like that after so much boasting. Seriously this interview was legendarily painful to watch.
@@nft3 Using the word "brokie" is 100% confirmation you've flopped in life and are now having to side hustle every free moment just to top up your wages.
I've seen 12year olds with much more respect and more articulate speech... oh, and not cheating at chess also! Levi was great in this interview being disrespected but still being professional and conducting a good interview, if that's even possible with such an immature person.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Hans was being an upset little shit because no one apologized to him so Levy just threw that back at him that he didn't apologize for cheating either
Hans doesnt even have the balls to watch Levy in the eyes. He admires the walls while talking to him. Huge sign of dissrespect. Hans is just a spoiled brat which thinks everything in the world is about him and thinks he is much more intelligent than he actually is
I dont like Hans too. But for an excuse you dont need to say the word sorry. You can say it in different ways. He said it many times that it was a stupid mistake and that he learned from that. For me this excuse is enough.
@@HeMa0476 for some cultures the word sorry is more important than for others tho. Saying it was a mistake is no indication that you feel sorry for the people you affected. But either way, I really don't care that much about this.
Hans problem is, he's trying to play the villain and use it to up his profile etc to make more money. Trying to become a sort of love him or hate him style character. The problem is he's so bad at it. Just comes across arrogant and rude and his attempts at jokes are cringe. He'd have been better off admitting guilt and wiping the slate clean and just playing chess and letting it speak for itself. Because he's clearly an amazing player.
Yeah and then never being a fellow again and instead working their ass off to build an honest career. Which is exactly what taking responsibility means. Who gives a shit about someone saying sorry. And who of the guys bashing Hans constantly and calling him an otb cheater with 0 evidence who now have all retracted the statement and play him again has said sorry or taken even an ounce of responsibility? Don't see them. If a single one maybe danya but that's maybe the only one.
@@julianullrich5633 haha running away from your wrongs and acting like a jerk is not "taking responsibility." if saying sorry's no big deal why does hans demand it here? hans cheatman is a joke and so are his defenders
Conducting an interview with an antagonistic subject is HARD. Levy is extremely good at this, like, could genuinely have a TV career completely independent of chess.
Or would be a good therapist. Doesn’t react or takes it personally. Can stay cool and tried to continue the conversation into a more productive direction. Source: am a therapist
Hans Nieman reminds of Anakin Skywalker right before he turned to the dark side. He thinks everyone is against him, and that he is the only one who knows the truth.
"I have taken responsibility, I have suffered consequences" - suffering consequences and apologizing are not the same thing. You suffer consequences because the system found you guilty, you apologize because YOU consider YOURSELF guilty. He still thinks he's done nothing wrong. Just delusional!!
There are two options. You can ban people that cheat, or you can give them a warning and ban if they are caught again. Neither of that requires to guilt trip a person, or put him on his knees and make him cry for forgiveness or something like that. He did an action = he suffered consequences. You can argue if consequences were bad enough or not, but requiring him to be "more apologetic" is just non-productive in professional life and toxic in personal life.
@@markwheazer945Strange, there’s still people like you that claim to care about nothing, but still keep crying about everything (but with sarcasm because it makes you feel oh so wise)
@@abdallahhakeem5185 nah just don’t care about things I can’t change, I care about alot of things but people who freak out over internet drama is funny thats all. Wanted to say that I appreciate people who do because they make me happy.
Tbf he is pretty good at chess but the Fischer quote of ‘I am not a chess genius, I am just a genius who happened to play chess’ does definitely not apply here (nor does it for Fischer)
@ Not related to the video, unfortunately. He did cheat, which is why Magnus later suspected him of cheating. We know he cheated in the past, multiple times
@@spicy7302 As an interviewer it was levy's responsibility not to let it get to him. Its ok that he responded by taking it personally. But that means "He didn't handle it perfectly!"
@@spicy7302 It would have been much more professional if he had not put himself on the same level as Hans. Also saying "I totally get it man" to a person who clearly has a vendetta against you is not a good move, It can sound condesending to that person, that's why Hans interrupt him after that, he got mad from that, its not a good idea even if you want to lighten the mood, makes things worse usually. He did handled this pretty well imo, but far from perfect. Either way, Hans wasn't there to have a civil conversetion so it doesn't really matter.
He has an history of cheating, acts like a child, is not currently a serious contender for the world championship and still calls himself "revolutionary".
Imagine calling yourself a revolutionary while also admitting you've cheated several times in the same sport of which you think of yourself a revolutionary
Which one of them, the gm or the guy who built a social media career insinuating that the hm cheated otb without any evidence other than a handfull of online games he cheated in as a minor?
3:25 being punished is not the same taking responsibility, especially not when you were saying cheating is okay in video games, so why not in chess. (btw video game cheaters do get cancelled for cheating so Hans's idea of cheating is bad as hell). the whole time hans has been refusing to acknowledge that his cheating was bad, trying to underplay it like it's not a big deal. That is the OPPOSITE of "sorry". The ban was a punishment, it was not taking responsibility.
And exactly because of that it is very very very VERY unlikely that one day he wakes up and becomes a legit player for life. In order for ppl to change their behaviour, they first need to change their personality, otherwise why bother? So his coincidental rise over 250 elo points in 1,5 years right after his last recorded online cheating after being stuck at 2400-2450 for years before....the probability of him being legit in classical is next to zero....
@@emperorsascharoni9577 cheating online prized events is bad especially for the other chess players who were making a living out of it and "earning" the titles in his cheating era
Serving a 6 month ban isn’t taking responsibility. It’s forced. That’s like saying serving jail time is taking responsibility for your actions. No, you got arrested and sentence to jail, and were required by law to be there.
@@ademir0-079bro it was a fact, not a fake accusations, i think you dont understand that he did it like +100 times and even in events, he is a cheater
Tbh there’s room to be one. If you somehow single-handedly change the game, sure. He’s not even a serious contender for #1 in any time control, so it’s a ridiculous premise
I mean I don't like him but he's not exactly lying is he? He's around 20 not sure exactly and already has been beating some of the top gms in the world, like you can dislike him and think he's got an ego but if he's got the evidence to back that ego then it's a cry about it kinda deal 😭
@@alakazamhippity3192 The thing is, he thinks he's a revolutionary because of his opinions regarding everyone in the chess scene, but in reality he just insults people baselessly and talks about himself as thought he's above them all. He's undeniably talented, but he also undeniably shows every trait of being a narcissist in the worst ways possible.
@@alakazamhippity3192 chess isn't new to young people beating gms. hans isn't doing anything 'revolutionary' here. being good at chess isn't revolutionary either. you should look up words before you speak.
Hans makes it impossible for me to root for him. He comes off as a spoiled child in this interview. He may be a great chess player but he seems like a horrible person in life.
@SovietStyle I see a lot of people attacking everywhere, from what I saw, this dude isn't really the most likeable person, I mean, people get shit on even when they're the chillest dudes ever, so I gotta ask, why all this defense? I'm not saying this in a sarcastic tone, I just want to really know what's up with this Hans guy, that's all.
@@SovietStyle what's good about hans? This is textbook egoism and borderline narcicism. I really want to know why there is any appeal to hans? Also you seem to act as if whenever you see something it has to be reflection of yourself which makes no sense.
@@SorryStamin Technically the most provable recent one was either late when he was 17 or 18. Which I might add was all of 2 ish years before the point he tried to sweep previous cheating under the rug as something he did as a kid. Which was a lie as he omitted the rest.
That's a funny story because even chesscoms latest accused incidents are when he was barely 17 and they didn't offer any proof for that. On the other hand Hans had played more than 2 years and 5000+ games on their site after that on the highest level already especially in blitz without them finding any of those games sus at all. Yet somehow when Carlsen lost a game and took a hit to his ego they banned him all of a sudden after to their knowledge not cheating for at least 3 years and 5000+ games.
@@julianullrich5633 You're correct on the age. It was just a bit past 17. However, the rest stands accurate. It was only about 2 years before the Magnus incident, hardly a matter long in the past. Also still a lie, as both I and the report noted. Every other point you've put forth than the age is irrelevant or wrong. Hans is a strong chess player. I don't think anyone questions that. That's not really a good argument for him not being a cheater, which he is and has admitted to. That includes when he was 12, 16, and 17. They did offer proof of it. Hans admitting to it which lightened the sentence is proof. Supposing those aren't fabricated, that's proof and I haven't heard Hans contesting them. As for the timing, they cover that discussion in the report. No need for me to rehash that. Nor does it really concern me. This is what I see. Hans has a history of cheating as recently as two years prior to the event. His admission of cheating in the past as a kid omits his most recent time being caught. So he lied about the number of times. He lied about the age. He is being misleading/lying about it being something done as a kid as most wouldn't consider 2 years ago at 17 something to just dismiss as silly kid actions as he tries to. He lied about never having cheated on stream. He lied in his assertion that he only cheated in some random games as quite a few of these involved prize money. So do I think he cheated against Magnus? He sure acts guilty given the post game review and all the fallout after it. However, there's no hard proof, just acting sus. So I'll say innocent of that till proven guilty. There isn't proof and I doubt there ever will be. As far as I'm concerned, focusing on the Magnus thing is pointless as it'll never reach resolution. However, humbly, I submit that cheating multiple times in prize events as a titled player, and lying about cheating history is more than warranting a permanent ban. Hans is a strong player. He's perfectly capable of playing chess at a high level fairly. I just don't think that matters in the face of just the amount of lying and cheating we can already prove.
@@julianullrich5633 he should have been banned and stayed banned, and should still be banned. He is a cheater. He is a known cheater. he admits to having cheated. No one else gets their account back, why should he?
I wasn't sure if Hans cheated as an adult. Now I am. Punishment isn't taking responsibility; it's the consequence of getting caught cheating. Responsibility is learning your lesson the first time. If you get caught a third time you have issues regarding a lack of self awareness and understanding how your actions affect others. Sadly, there is a whole social and political movement based around normalizing shady and entitled behaviors despite reality.
Yeah Hans has higher accuracy in games than Magnus or Hikaru. It's clear he cheated multiple times. I've also seen this so often in online games - a guy gets caught cheating - then admits to cheating "once or twice". Then eventually is found to have cheated 100s of times
2:28 He thinks of himself as a revolutionary? Dude has a worse attitude than a karen customer at a mcdonalds. There's a reason why Fischer was able to get away with being arrogant. He was extremely charismatic in his early days. This is just a delusional kid, needs a lot of maturing.
I don't like Hans but why should you be sorry? Punishment is just balancing the scales for an act you did. The scales are balanced, everything is good.
@@egrassa1480 I think what Levy meant here is that Hans used to cheat online when he was a young boy. So he asked Hans if he ever said 'Sorry' for cheating during those times.
@@Nightwalk444 I don't think you understand why people are punished when they do something wrong. None of the people he cheated against got anything back when Hans was banned for 6 months. I don't see the "scales being balanced". But it doesn't matter, that's not why punishments exist. Punishments are not about revenge. Punishments are an incentive for people to NOT DO actions that get punished. Ideally, punishments are chosen so that the person being punished changes their behavior in the future to NOT DO AGAIN actions that are harmful to society. It's not about balancin scales, it's not about revenge. "I did that, but I served my time, I'm all good now" shows a profound misunderstanding of the punishment, and shows that the person is not ready to join again society. A person is ready to join back society if they are sorry for their action and both understand why it's harmful and have a willingness to not impose that action again to society. With this context, it should be abundantly clear why Hans saying in this interview that "saying sorry is meaningless because he served his time" indicates that he doesn't even understand that cheating is not a good thing for the chess world. It should also be abundantly clear that he's very very far from being as intelligent as he thinks he is. And for all it is, it shows that if he got the occasion to cheat again, he would have no moral urge to not cheat. No proof whether he cheated or not lately, but this kind of answers on his part don't really paint him as an innocent person...
No. Some people say they "have applogised" when all they have really done is just say that they have appologised and they never actually say sorry. He clearly never has@@julianullrich5633
@@julianullrich5633apologizing in the form of waiting till your ban is over, is not apologizing at all. A proper apology contains the words "I am sorry for...", the remorse (or lack thereof) makes it sincere or fake. PS: I saw you crying about "the same people" bashing him in the comments and how pathetic it is, well it's equally as pathetic to run around trying to refute everything on every comment. since I didn't see people doing it(the same people bashing him over and over again) , but what I do see is you digitally sucking up to Niemann on multiple comments . Which is the exact opposite of the spectrum, but makes you equally as shit as the people you call out. Just relax and reflect. And even if it does happen, so what, can't you just say you like the guy and don't believe any accusations?
Remember this is the guy whose slogan is, “Let the chess speak for itself”. Then when people bring up that fact that he cheated, he sues them for a 100 million dollars.
3:00 Hans makes a Freudian slip! He says no one can sow any doubt about his strength, then goes on to specify by saying his “real strength.” Why would anybody have to clarify they were speaking about their real strength unless they’ve used tools to enhance their strength in a game? Then he kind of pauses afterwards. It’s subtle but it’s there!
No that makes no sense, he even corrects himself saying just "strength". Its connected to his statement right before performing at 2800 in classical and his "real strength" being about that, while his strength aka. todays elo at 2700, isnt reflecting that.
Levy handled this interview so well. he stayed calm and TRIED to make it an interview and we got to see Hans sabotaging himself as always. Levi gave him so many chances to retrieve himself a little but no, it seems like Hans never thinks twice before he says/writes something in the internet. i've lost all respect to Hans ever since his "apology" video regarding the hotel incident where it can be summed up with "i'm still young so i'm allowed to make mistakes" and not being able to say sorry without "but" even once throughout the 40 minutes.
Translation of Hans: I’m not sorry because I served a 6 month ban after getting caught cheating. Let’s talk about how I’m awesome!!! 🙌 my greatness !1!!! Villain vibes
Saying you take full responsibility is not apologizing. Saying youre sorry is hard to do as a prideful man, particularly when you dont feel sorry. Saying you take full reaponsibility is a way of trying to make you look strong, its teenager shit. Kids just actin his age
Whenever someone says something like "I'm speaking the TRUTH which is DANGEROUS in today's world" you know you're dealing with one of the most unbearable people on the planet.
Levy was being so reasonable here. Also Hans "suffering the consequences" is not the same as taking responsibility, it's just taking punishment. This dude is an actual kid.
"how can you possibly say that I'm not sorry for punching that guy? I just finished serving the six month sentence the judge gave me. Is my idle existence as time passes not enough of an apology?"
Levy listen, we the People will not blame you for cutting loose and letting him hear the TRUTH the way he deserves to hear it from you. It hurts to watch him act this way as you let him know you're rooting for his comeback. Especially because I was too. I felt bad for him during the match with Hikaru but I know now to save my sympathy. You get what you give 🤷🏾♂️ Props for holding your composure with this little 🤐🤐🤐
Suffering the consequences is not taking responsibility. Lol thats amazing that he thinks that. The consequences and the ban is not because YOU wanted it or said it. Its part of the wrongfulness YOU did. Still an immature guy.
The only thing revolutionary about Hans is how disrespectful he is towards his peers. He's only building himself up to fall all the harder, and to get absolutely ridiculed out of the scene. He's got the vibes of a 14yo rage-cheater in videogames.
Calling yourself revolutionary is so humble....
Exactly. What exactly is he revolutionizing? Changing chess rules? All he has done is add drama lol
He thinks so much of himself.
@@frank2453 I wish more people thought more of themselves
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He doesn't. He is a textbook narcissism. Projecting confidence he doesn't have.
Hans is a unhinged weirdo 😅
@@trumtrum5136
More Hans Niemann characters running around in the world being more afraid to take responsibility for their actions than billionaires being afraid of taxes?
No thanks.
Levy has more of a backbone than most journalists, and he isn't even one. I respect him for not pulling any punches in this interview.
Yeah, was seriously impressed by how he handled this with a very difficult personality like Hans who is a little bit in his own world
He is not making a living being a journalist. It’s easy if your career is not hanging on every word you say or question you ask. But yeah, good for him making it honest.
Levy is smart and composed. There is no argument here. Dude used a bot OTB.
How come he asks if hans has said sorry when he has apologized? Maybe he should get up to date information?
Why isn't he a journalist?
Hans is the proof that being very good at chess doesn't necessarly translate to being a smart individual
Chess players often feel like they spent so much of their childhood focused on a boardgame they never developed people skills. Also, Hans was at a critical age for social development (16-17) during lockdown, and I believe he was living alone already at that age. We're watching an adult with the social development of a 15 year old. It's painful to watch.
He needs a major character development arc or if all hope is lost at least a pr team.
The true intelligence is the intelligence of the heart, so...
@@ravecraba very immature 15 yr old 😂😂
Hans is smart, but he is immature and probably has felt cornered for the last 2 years, he's in a constant state of fight or flight. At least so far he has chosen fight, many people would have quit when it seemed the whole world was against him.
Levy showed spine here. Was fair and gave Hans a cold shower without being disrespectful.
ya
where was that respect when he was milking that anal beads story. guess he didn’t care about another human being as long as it was gaining him subscribers 😂
Nah he was being a fool
@@PauIdenino I think that shoe polish may be affecting your brain from all the boot licking you do for Hans :(
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 Lmfaoooooo
I can tell Levy doesn't like confrontation, and the fact he had the balls to still do this makes me respect him even more.
he like apple pie
@@birdbeakbeardneck3617the fuuck😅
Every delusional person thinks they are speaking the truth.
You're the perfect example right now.
@@daygrindmike8913 If A then B, does not imply If B then A
@@TheBlueboyRuhan It also doesn't negate it.
@@daygrindmike8913 Uno reverse card.
What an empty platitude made by NobodySpecial
Yeah both did.
Guys let’s be fair. Hans is a revolutionary, the way he got demolished by Carlson and Nakamura was revolutionary. I’ve never seen anything like that after so much boasting.
Seriously this interview was legendarily painful to watch.
ya Carlson and Nakamura schooled him
@@MillenniumVT_Officialtruee😂
What? Everyone does that! Getting demolished by Magnus and Hikaru is a task we can all achieve.
@@moreblack yeah but the rest of us don’t talk a bunch of shit about how we’re the future of chess.
true that😂😂😂
Hans is the most scared, guilty, frazzled looking ‘innocent man’ i’ve ever seen in my life!
Ok, brokie.
@@nft3 you are definitely a troglodyte. Hans is a joke and a horrible person.
XD
@@nft3 Using the word "brokie" is 100% confirmation you've flopped in life and are now having to side hustle every free moment just to top up your wages.
@@ravecrab Haha, brokie logic.
Hans acts like a 12 year old
That is what lying and cheating do to his psychology.
Nah, I know 12 year olds that are WAAAY more respectful than that weasel
I've seen 12year olds with much more respect and more articulate speech... oh, and not cheating at chess also!
Levi was great in this interview being disrespected but still being professional and conducting a good interview, if that's even possible with such an immature person.
Yeah but he does not need to say sorry
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Hans was being an upset little shit because no one apologized to him so Levy just threw that back at him that he didn't apologize for cheating either
Hans: “Its time to face the music”
Levy: “I don’t hear any music…”
1:24
lalalalala cant hear you lalalalala
Lmao this was gold
The music will speak for itself
That was gangster.
Maybe it will probably disappear got published anyway 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hans doesnt even have the balls to watch Levy in the eyes. He admires the walls while talking to him. Huge sign of dissrespect. Hans is just a spoiled brat which thinks everything in the world is about him and thinks he is much more intelligent than he actually is
or signs of lying/avoiding speaking the truth, as eye contact can make uncomfortable while doing so
Levy doesn't deserve his respect lol, stop being a loser kid.
I think hes autistic tbh
It may be a Trumpesque strategy to get attention. It is very likely.
Agreed. If someone's talking to you, pay attention, eye to eye, basic human level of respect.
After this interview, i love levy more 😂😂😂
Levy
@@davidviaa5275 Sounds like you're both jealous and full of envy.
me too fr lol
You love him so much you couldn’t even learn his name
I love Hans even more
so, in short, no, he has never said sorry and probably never will.
I am pretty sure he has.
I dont like Hans too. But for an excuse you dont need to say the word sorry. You can say it in different ways. He said it many times that it was a stupid mistake and that he learned from that.
For me this excuse is enough.
he has. I checked the st louis tournament interview and he literally uses the word sorry
@@HeMa0476 for some cultures the word sorry is more important than for others tho. Saying it was a mistake is no indication that you feel sorry for the people you affected. But either way, I really don't care that much about this.
@@HeMa0476 You can't mistakenly cheat 100s of times dude. How can it be a stupid mistake if he kept doing it?? It was 100% intentional.
bro called himself a revolutionary
What did he revolutionize vibrators?
@@JakubGabryelewicz-bk5vm rod like vibrator*
Levy really has more self control than I thought
Hes literally just a coward
Come on kid just go and drink milk @@glitch504sans9
@@glitch504sans9 playing it safe is a coward these days huh
@@glitch504sans9Why? Because he put your idol in a tough spot by exposing him?
@@RHQ_W
playing is safe against hans? what a coward
3:16 " The word SORRY " Levi absolutely cooked him
John 3:16
Yep, notice how Hans just stutters like crazy. He can't imagine apologizing.
Hans problem is, he's trying to play the villain and use it to up his profile etc to make more money. Trying to become a sort of love him or hate him style character. The problem is he's so bad at it. Just comes across arrogant and rude and his attempts at jokes are cringe. He'd have been better off admitting guilt and wiping the slate clean and just playing chess and letting it speak for itself. Because he's clearly an amazing player.
you're bipolar
The word isn't necessarily the point. I think what's missing is any attempt to show remorse. He acts like the ban is just cost of doing business.
Hans "taking responsibility" by serving a 6 month ban is like a convicted felon taking responsibility by being dragged into jail.
I mean they do call it serving time
@@jacktinney Serving time isn't taking responsibility.
"I want them to say sorry to me but I don't need to say sorry to anybody because 'sorry' is meaningless!!"
cheating baby
Yeah and then never being a fellow again and instead working their ass off to build an honest career. Which is exactly what taking responsibility means. Who gives a shit about someone saying sorry. And who of the guys bashing Hans constantly and calling him an otb cheater with 0 evidence who now have all retracted the statement and play him again has said sorry or taken even an ounce of responsibility? Don't see them. If a single one maybe danya but that's maybe the only one.
@@julianullrich5633 haha running away from your wrongs and acting like a jerk is not "taking responsibility." if saying sorry's no big deal why does hans demand it here?
hans cheatman is a joke and so are his defenders
Conducting an interview with an antagonistic subject is HARD. Levy is extremely good at this, like, could genuinely have a TV career completely independent of chess.
Or would be a good therapist. Doesn’t react or takes it personally. Can stay cool and tried to continue the conversation into a more productive direction. Source: am a therapist
Maybe he should interview Trump 😅
Hans Nieman reminds of Anakin Skywalker right before he turned to the dark side. He thinks everyone is against him, and that he is the only one who knows the truth.
Lol, thats honestly quite right 😂
You were my brother Anakin!
But anakin was cool
Anakin was manipulated though. He wasn't willingly being a dick head like Hans is.
@@DrGetgood well Palpatine is like Kramnik kind of 😉😂
"I have taken responsibility, I have suffered consequences" - suffering consequences and apologizing are not the same thing. You suffer consequences because the system found you guilty, you apologize because YOU consider YOURSELF guilty. He still thinks he's done nothing wrong. Just delusional!!
Kinda funny how mad you are about people you don’t know icl, made me chuckle so thank you random commenter. Have a good day.
There are two options. You can ban people that cheat, or you can give them a warning and ban if they are caught again. Neither of that requires to guilt trip a person, or put him on his knees and make him cry for forgiveness or something like that. He did an action = he suffered consequences. You can argue if consequences were bad enough or not, but requiring him to be "more apologetic" is just non-productive in professional life and toxic in personal life.
@@markwheazer945you never mad about something on the internet?
@@markwheazer945Strange, there’s still people like you that claim to care about nothing, but still keep crying about everything (but with sarcasm because it makes you feel oh so wise)
@@abdallahhakeem5185 nah just don’t care about things I can’t change, I care about alot of things but people who freak out over internet drama is funny thats all. Wanted to say that I appreciate people who do because they make me happy.
Hans is like a tortured genius... without the genius.
Tbf he is pretty good at chess but the Fischer quote of ‘I am not a chess genius, I am just a genius who happened to play chess’ does definitely not apply here (nor does it for Fischer)
And also without the tortured. Guy’s just a dick
And Magnus is an accuser without evidence.
@
Not related to the video, unfortunately. He did cheat, which is why Magnus later suspected him of cheating. We know he cheated in the past, multiple times
But there was? @@myhatmygandhi6217
Levy handled this perfectly
LOL🤣. No he didn't. He took it too personally. If you wanna see how to handle this kind of stuff perfectly...watch how Naroditski did it.
@@HelloWorld12347 he took it personally because Hans made it that way
@@spicy7302 As an interviewer it was levy's responsibility not to let it get to him. Its ok that he responded by taking it personally. But that means "He didn't handle it perfectly!"
@@spicy7302 It would have been much more professional if he had not put himself on the same level as Hans. Also saying "I totally get it man" to a person who clearly has a vendetta against you is not a good move, It can sound condesending to that person, that's why Hans interrupt him after that, he got mad from that, its not a good idea even if you want to lighten the mood, makes things worse usually.
He did handled this pretty well imo, but far from perfect. Either way, Hans wasn't there to have a civil conversetion so it doesn't really matter.
@@m.dave2141 Out of anyone in chess, Hans deserves to be condescended to. He's a cheater. He should be banned.
He has an history of cheating, acts like a child, is not currently a serious contender for the world championship and still calls himself "revolutionary".
He is a child? He is like 19
Revolutionarily shit maybe
He's probably a narcissist
@redblue5140 Worse, he's 21.
@@redblue5140 and yet like 99% of minors who play chess act more maturely than him.
Revolutionaries!? 😂
Imagine calling yourself a revolutionary while also admitting you've cheated several times in the same sport of which you think of yourself a revolutionary
Revolutionary in what exactly😂?
@@Philopantheon82Cheating
@@Philopantheon82 In cheating techniques.
yeah, he is against the system! well except when he has to sue somebody, in which case he goes with lawyers
Magnus calmed him real fast
Magnus gave him the fronthand, Hikaru the backhand. Kids these days really need that treatment.
@@duydatyds You didn't get enough of that treatment for sure as well.
@@wr3ckr270 How does this comment even make sense? What did that user do wrong???
Dude is a narcissist
and/or a sociopath
Delusional too
you're bipolar
@@piotrek8438he's too much of a bitch to be a sociopath. Likely a vulnerable narcissist
Which one of them, the gm or the guy who built a social media career insinuating that the hm cheated otb without any evidence other than a handfull of online games he cheated in as a minor?
3:25 being punished is not the same taking responsibility, especially not when you were saying cheating is okay in video games, so why not in chess. (btw video game cheaters do get cancelled for cheating so Hans's idea of cheating is bad as hell). the whole time hans has been refusing to acknowledge that his cheating was bad, trying to underplay it like it's not a big deal. That is the OPPOSITE of "sorry". The ban was a punishment, it was not taking responsibility.
Cheating online while Bad really isn’t a big deal.
And exactly because of that it is very very very VERY unlikely that one day he wakes up and becomes a legit player for life. In order for ppl to change their behaviour, they first need to change their personality, otherwise why bother? So his coincidental rise over 250 elo points in 1,5 years right after his last recorded online cheating after being stuck at 2400-2450 for years before....the probability of him being legit in classical is next to zero....
@@emperorsascharoni9577 cheating online prized events is bad especially for the other chess players who were making a living out of it and "earning" the titles in his cheating era
@@emperorsascharoni9577 Why isn't it a big deal because it is "online" ?
@@Enigmo-bb7cg Think consequences. Some peoples days are ruined compared to otb rating lost chances lost. Win streaks broken
You can clearly see here an adult talking with a kid that's trying to look like an adult.
Levy never accused Hans of anything he even tried to support him in some way, and hans is just a jerk
anytime someone says, "i'm speaking the truth", i almost immediately think... what a c#$t.
Serving a 6 month ban isn’t taking responsibility. It’s forced.
That’s like saying serving jail time is taking responsibility for your actions. No, you got arrested and sentence to jail, and were required by law to be there.
yep what a complete clown
Exactly!
He's the type of guy that when you get into a conversation with him, you count the seconds until you can leave the convo.
You're judging him only by this interview. He probably felt humiliated after his name was slanderd after that horrible fake accusation.
@@ademir0-079bro it was a fact, not a fake accusations, i think you dont understand that he did it like +100 times and even in events, he is a cheater
Revolutionaries? It's Chess man. Relax.
Tbh there’s room to be one. If you somehow single-handedly change the game, sure. He’s not even a serious contender for #1 in any time control, so it’s a ridiculous premise
I think Hans is misunderstanding the definition of "revolutionary" at 2:41. I think he means NARCISSIST.🙄
megalomaniac
you're bipolar
I mean I don't like him but he's not exactly lying is he? He's around 20 not sure exactly and already has been beating some of the top gms in the world, like you can dislike him and think he's got an ego but if he's got the evidence to back that ego then it's a cry about it kinda deal 😭
@@alakazamhippity3192 The thing is, he thinks he's a revolutionary because of his opinions regarding everyone in the chess scene, but in reality he just insults people baselessly and talks about himself as thought he's above them all. He's undeniably talented, but he also undeniably shows every trait of being a narcissist in the worst ways possible.
@@alakazamhippity3192 chess isn't new to young people beating gms. hans isn't doing anything 'revolutionary' here. being good at chess isn't revolutionary either. you should look up words before you speak.
Hans makes it impossible for me to root for him. He comes off as a spoiled child in this interview. He may be a great chess player but he seems like a horrible person in life.
maybe you see your own bad characteristics in him. If you really dislike someone you should first check yourself. love
@SovietStyle I see a lot of people attacking everywhere, from what I saw, this dude isn't really the most likeable person, I mean, people get shit on even when they're the chillest dudes ever, so I gotta ask, why all this defense? I'm not saying this in a sarcastic tone, I just want to really know what's up with this Hans guy, that's all.
@@SovietStyle what's good about hans? This is textbook egoism and borderline narcicism. I really want to know why there is any appeal to hans? Also you seem to act as if whenever you see something it has to be reflection of yourself which makes no sense.
@@SovietStylemaybe that's what you do so you think everyone else does it too?
What does 'taking responsability' even mean? He has always said 'I was only 13' and seems to pretend he didn't cheat in any other occasion.
Agreed. If it was only when he was 13, I wouldn't hold it against anyone. It's the fact they've most likely done it again and again.
@@SorryStamin Technically the most provable recent one was either late when he was 17 or 18. Which I might add was all of 2 ish years before the point he tried to sweep previous cheating under the rug as something he did as a kid. Which was a lie as he omitted the rest.
That's a funny story because even chesscoms latest accused incidents are when he was barely 17 and they didn't offer any proof for that. On the other hand Hans had played more than 2 years and 5000+ games on their site after that on the highest level already especially in blitz without them finding any of those games sus at all. Yet somehow when Carlsen lost a game and took a hit to his ego they banned him all of a sudden after to their knowledge not cheating for at least 3 years and 5000+ games.
@@julianullrich5633 You're correct on the age. It was just a bit past 17. However, the rest stands accurate. It was only about 2 years before the Magnus incident, hardly a matter long in the past. Also still a lie, as both I and the report noted.
Every other point you've put forth than the age is irrelevant or wrong. Hans is a strong chess player. I don't think anyone questions that. That's not really a good argument for him not being a cheater, which he is and has admitted to. That includes when he was 12, 16, and 17. They did offer proof of it. Hans admitting to it which lightened the sentence is proof. Supposing those aren't fabricated, that's proof and I haven't heard Hans contesting them. As for the timing, they cover that discussion in the report. No need for me to rehash that. Nor does it really concern me. This is what I see.
Hans has a history of cheating as recently as two years prior to the event. His admission of cheating in the past as a kid omits his most recent time being caught. So he lied about the number of times. He lied about the age. He is being misleading/lying about it being something done as a kid as most wouldn't consider 2 years ago at 17 something to just dismiss as silly kid actions as he tries to. He lied about never having cheated on stream. He lied in his assertion that he only cheated in some random games as quite a few of these involved prize money.
So do I think he cheated against Magnus? He sure acts guilty given the post game review and all the fallout after it. However, there's no hard proof, just acting sus. So I'll say innocent of that till proven guilty. There isn't proof and I doubt there ever will be.
As far as I'm concerned, focusing on the Magnus thing is pointless as it'll never reach resolution. However, humbly, I submit that cheating multiple times in prize events as a titled player, and lying about cheating history is more than warranting a permanent ban. Hans is a strong player. He's perfectly capable of playing chess at a high level fairly. I just don't think that matters in the face of just the amount of lying and cheating we can already prove.
@@julianullrich5633 he should have been banned and stayed banned, and should still be banned. He is a cheater. He is a known cheater. he admits to having cheated. No one else gets their account back, why should he?
poor hans got manipulated by kramnik by feeding into his delusion 😂
Nope Hans and Kramnik is best dynamic duo
I wasn't sure if Hans cheated as an adult. Now I am. Punishment isn't taking responsibility; it's the consequence of getting caught cheating. Responsibility is learning your lesson the first time. If you get caught a third time you have issues regarding a lack of self awareness and understanding how your actions affect others. Sadly, there is a whole social and political movement based around normalizing shady and entitled behaviors despite reality.
You don't know what 'sure' means, do you?
Yeah Hans has higher accuracy in games than Magnus or Hikaru. It's clear he cheated multiple times. I've also seen this so often in online games - a guy gets caught cheating - then admits to cheating "once or twice". Then eventually is found to have cheated 100s of times
The amount of illogical comments like this being made are disturbing.
@@michaelcarroll5801 Hans cheated 100 times. Why is it so hard to believe that he didn't cheat the 101st time?
@@YourMasta As you respond with zero logic. How about facts? Hans was caught and admitted cheating in the past decade.
2:28 He thinks of himself as a revolutionary? Dude has a worse attitude than a karen customer at a mcdonalds. There's a reason why Fischer was able to get away with being arrogant. He was extremely charismatic in his early days. This is just a delusional kid, needs a lot of maturing.
Let the interview speak for itself
To Hans, punishment isn't repentance. Just because you served your sentence doesn't mean you're sorry about the things you did.
I don't like Hans but why should you be sorry? Punishment is just balancing the scales for an act you did. The scales are balanced, everything is good.
What did he do? I thought cheating was never proven
that's why the prison system is dumb and not efficent
@@egrassa1480 I think what Levy meant here is that Hans used to cheat online when he was a young boy. So he asked Hans if he ever said 'Sorry' for cheating during those times.
@@Nightwalk444 I don't think you understand why people are punished when they do something wrong. None of the people he cheated against got anything back when Hans was banned for 6 months. I don't see the "scales being balanced". But it doesn't matter, that's not why punishments exist.
Punishments are not about revenge. Punishments are an incentive for people to NOT DO actions that get punished. Ideally, punishments are chosen so that the person being punished changes their behavior in the future to NOT DO AGAIN actions that are harmful to society.
It's not about balancin scales, it's not about revenge.
"I did that, but I served my time, I'm all good now" shows a profound misunderstanding of the punishment, and shows that the person is not ready to join again society. A person is ready to join back society if they are sorry for their action and both understand why it's harmful and have a willingness to not impose that action again to society.
With this context, it should be abundantly clear why Hans saying in this interview that "saying sorry is meaningless because he served his time" indicates that he doesn't even understand that cheating is not a good thing for the chess world. It should also be abundantly clear that he's very very far from being as intelligent as he thinks he is. And for all it is, it shows that if he got the occasion to cheat again, he would have no moral urge to not cheat. No proof whether he cheated or not lately, but this kind of answers on his part don't really paint him as an innocent person...
My respect for Levy just grew.
That amounted to a long winded "No" on the "did you ever say sorry for cheating". Vladimir, begin The Procedure!
He literally said he apologized multiple times before. Than levy played word games.
No. Some people say they "have applogised" when all they have really done is just say that they have appologised and they never actually say sorry. He clearly never has@@julianullrich5633
@@julianullrich5633apologizing in the form of waiting till your ban is over, is not apologizing at all. A proper apology contains the words "I am sorry for...", the remorse (or lack thereof) makes it sincere or fake. PS: I saw you crying about "the same people" bashing him in the comments and how pathetic it is, well it's equally as pathetic to run around trying to refute everything on every comment. since I didn't see people doing it(the same people bashing him over and over again) , but what I do see is you digitally sucking up to Niemann on multiple comments . Which is the exact opposite of the spectrum, but makes you equally as shit as the people you call out.
Just relax and reflect. And even if it does happen, so what, can't you just say you like the guy and don't believe any accusations?
@@julianullrich5633 And did he?
Remember this is the guy whose slogan is, “Let the chess speak for itself”. Then when people bring up that fact that he cheated, he sues them for a 100 million dollars.
The more I heard this kid talking, the more disgusted I am.
Deep down, he's not a bad kid, but he is deeply lacking life experience which is biting him hard and makes him bite others until he sorts himself out
levi sorry if i commented in a negative way while you were losing your tournament, you are a chad
3:00 Hans makes a Freudian slip! He says no one can sow any doubt about his strength, then goes on to specify by saying his “real strength.” Why would anybody have to clarify they were speaking about their real strength unless they’ve used tools to enhance their strength in a game?
Then he kind of pauses afterwards. It’s subtle but it’s there!
On point! This comment should be pinned !!!
or maybe the beads just malfunctioned and switched on for a moment there
He's said in the past that he believes he's underrated, due to not getting tournament invites. Maybe that's what he means by "real strength"
No that makes no sense, he even corrects himself saying just "strength".
Its connected to his statement right before performing at 2800 in classical and his "real strength" being about that, while his strength aka. todays elo at 2700, isnt reflecting that.
That means nothing
After this painful interview, my respect for Levy has skyrocketed to astronomical levels. Hans? He should try out for the NFL or UFC.
Please don’t disrespect the UFC like this
@@SillyRobot No no no, a different UFC. It stands for Universal F***ing C**t
Why do people comment this like their respect matters or something? 😂 It doesn’t. It won’t affect anyone for better or for worse
@ the same reason you wrote your comment
@ Wow 🤯 thats a good try, you almost made sense there
Levy handled this interview so well. he stayed calm and TRIED to make it an interview and we got to see Hans sabotaging himself as always. Levi gave him so many chances to retrieve himself a little but no, it seems like Hans never thinks twice before he says/writes something in the internet. i've lost all respect to Hans ever since his "apology" video regarding the hotel incident where it can be summed up with "i'm still young so i'm allowed to make mistakes" and not being able to say sorry without "but" even once throughout the 40 minutes.
Translation of Hans:
I’m not sorry because I served a 6 month ban after getting caught cheating.
Let’s talk about how I’m awesome!!! 🙌 my greatness !1!!!
Villain vibes
Saying you take full responsibility is not apologizing. Saying youre sorry is hard to do as a prideful man, particularly when you dont feel sorry. Saying you take full reaponsibility is a way of trying to make you look strong, its teenager shit. Kids just actin his age
defining yourself as a revolutionary is not how you be a revolutionary. that is not a title to be claimed but one to be given.
Whoever thought chess could have this much excitement and drama! Love it!
Hans Niemann really isn't a good person.
Whenever someone says something like "I'm speaking the TRUTH which is DANGEROUS in today's world" you know you're dealing with one of the most unbearable people on the planet.
and you know it's probably not the truth 😂
I have a lot more respect for Levy than Hans ever will. Levy is a Legend for standing up and asking the hard questions.
You comment like your respect means something 😂
Suffering the consequences does not mean accepting responsibility.
Classic narcissist behavior
Damn Levy, truly reminding us how journalism is suppose to look
Saying sorry is meaningless when you aren’t really sorry, Hans is right about that he doesn’t have the ability to feel bad about it
He needed his RTX4080 for this game with Magnus.
😂 Why'd he need a graphics card for his beads
@@em4six348 Beads need to receive precise engine moves from other side.
Giv him some fps boost 😂
@@em4six348 AI calculated stimulation for precise tactical moves without any input lag.
Serving a Ban is not Taking Responsibilty, Hans. But I'm glad you consider yourself a Revolutionary.
Levy being real here
Wow, Hans is just an arrogant little sad kid.
"I've taken responsibility, I've suffered the consequences". THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.
“this is a moment where where where- time to face the music “ - a revolutionary man probably
Can't believe the most delusional chess individual got together, Hans and Kramnik
Fair play to Levy here 👏
"Saying sorry seems meaningless", spoken like a true sociopath. someone should explain to him a sorry isn't for him, or to make sense of it.
Exactly. I've seen interviews with serial killers and some used that, "..sorry is meaningless" line verbatim.
It must be sad to wake up every day and be forced to be Hans Niemann. It's understandably pissed.
Suffering the consequences is not the same as taking responsibility, or showing that you are sorry for your actions
Hans is a cheater. Gets support because he is from the USA. That's it.
Yeah. Usa keeps thinking they are always right when it is so far from the truth.
nope
he is a super gm and ppl love him outside US too
@@manishjain6036also a cheater
Super GM means 2800+
@@Ari-PekkaKaipiainen Super GM is 2700+
THE WORDS SORRY FEEL MEANINGLESS… They would be coming from you
Jodi Arias said those exact words too, when asked why she didn't say "sorry" to the victim's family, so Hans is in stellar company.
It was a matrix glitch that hans got selected as GM instead of levi
A cheater not revolutionary
if the truth hurts:
“honesty without compassion is cruelty; compassion without honesty is manipulation.”
Damn, Levy handled this so well. Respect
Suffering the consequences isn't the same as taking responsibility.
0:53 " Most chess players are not a good interview , they say all the same thing all the time and they probably will not help the sport grow " 🎯
I suffered the consequences so I don’t have to say sorry, it’s meaningless - no one in the history of time except Hans
My glorious king Levy thank you for standing your ground
Was studying for English class and googled “stuck up” now we here.
Hans is such a loser lmao
Bro is Bobby Fischer without the chess ability
This made me respect levy immensely, and I already did tbh
Levy was being so reasonable here. Also Hans "suffering the consequences" is not the same as taking responsibility, it's just taking punishment. This dude is an actual kid.
Change. That's what Hans must do. Change completely.
The interview spoke for itself.
Hans is completely avoid eye contact, which strongly suggests he knows he is speaking out of his arse.
"to say the words 'im sorry'...it feels like...meaningless" -Hans
Hans Niemann is the Andrew Tate of Chess
edit: He is insufferable
Damn, the narcissism required to call yourself a revolutionary.
Hans is never going to accomplish anything with this attitude.
"to say sorry feels meaningless" because he's not sorry and he never has been lmao
He calls himself a "revolutionary"?? I've never seen such a sad, pretentious excuse of human 😂
"how can you possibly say that I'm not sorry for punching that guy? I just finished serving the six month sentence the judge gave me. Is my idle existence as time passes not enough of an apology?"
Levi does what Danya can’t. Tough interview.
I really expected to see somebody lash out. I feel robbed my time
Levy listen, we the People will not blame you for cutting loose and letting him hear the TRUTH the way he deserves to hear it from you. It hurts to watch him act this way as you let him know you're rooting for his comeback. Especially because I was too.
I felt bad for him during the match with Hikaru but I know now to save my sympathy. You get what you give 🤷🏾♂️ Props for holding your composure with this little 🤐🤐🤐
Suffering the consequences is not taking responsibility. Lol thats amazing that he thinks that. The consequences and the ban is not because YOU wanted it or said it. Its part of the wrongfulness YOU did.
Still an immature guy.
The only thing revolutionary about Hans is how disrespectful he is towards his peers. He's only building himself up to fall all the harder, and to get absolutely ridiculed out of the scene.
He's got the vibes of a 14yo rage-cheater in videogames.