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  • Veterans of WWII, Iraq and Afghanistan wars meet up in this episode of Roundtable to discuss killing enemies, worst memories that haunt them, PTSD and what it's like to be out of the army.
    Thanks to Toby, Craif, Liz and John for taking part.
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  • @ardaorhan3968
    @ardaorhan3968 Год назад +2794

    The breathig voice of the paralyzed veteran realy sets the tone of the video.War is hell and needs to be avoided.

    • @palmerj24
      @palmerj24 Год назад +95

      Absolutely. I emphatically believe in fighting for what you believe in, on a very basic human level. Unfortunately war rarely has anything to do with humanity or morals and usually starts from decisions made a million miles away from the front line based on greed and money.

    • @katem86
      @katem86 Год назад +4

      💯

    • @richnegs5828
      @richnegs5828 Год назад +13

      One strong man.

    • @kasb631
      @kasb631 Год назад +22

      Tell the government this to them everybody is disposable and just a number look at the veterans and the way they are treated it’s disgusting. I could never join the armed forces you’re fighting for some idiot in a suit and their ideas who doesn’t even care of your name or family.

    • @israeluncovered3653
      @israeluncovered3653 Год назад +2

      Your spot on !

  • @samfletcher93
    @samfletcher93 Год назад +1999

    Disgusting the lack of support for Craig and I'm sure many many others. Thanks, guys, and if anyone else who reads this is current or ex military, thank you too. Truly incredible people.

    • @nicholaslandolina
      @nicholaslandolina 11 месяцев назад

      What if the sniper hit his guy

    • @Rigel_Chiokis
      @Rigel_Chiokis 11 месяцев назад +11

      Thank you for that. I didn't get deployed for combat for the year I was in uniform, but still, I appreciate your support.

    • @hairyhornyhog
      @hairyhornyhog 10 месяцев назад +3

      so true

    • @JosephP8
      @JosephP8 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@Rigel_Chiokis you still served you still committed and we all appreciate you

    • @ForBritannia
      @ForBritannia 10 месяцев назад +8

      It’s disgusting how many people are in the same boat right now thousands of cases of personnel being medically discharged and have just been left in the dark without any care nor concern

  • @-Beon
    @-Beon Год назад +1254

    The veteran was really together 100years old and having strokes he’s truly intact just imagine him in his prime deffiently one hell of a soldier

    • @pooooornopigeon
      @pooooornopigeon 11 месяцев назад +48

      The regiment tie and pin gives a clue.

    • @Shitballs69420
      @Shitballs69420 11 месяцев назад +22

      I’ll always have the upmost respect for these men and women. I’m so fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet some of our veterans from both the Great and the Second World War. Many if not most we’ve since lost, how’ve they’ll forever be in the hearts and minds of young men and women who’s lives they made possible with their sacrifices. I am eternally grateful.

    • @guyrogers5758
      @guyrogers5758 10 месяцев назад +16

      The sas pin gives it away

    • @Nathan-jt8zt
      @Nathan-jt8zt 10 месяцев назад +13

      He basically also says he was in special forces when he refers to the camaraderie, or comradeship, that they miss

    • @bradleyhyland2953
      @bradleyhyland2953 10 месяцев назад +7

      Don’t make em like that old boy anymore I’d say he’s been in some situations combat was different then to how it is now

  • @alkaliwreck2474
    @alkaliwreck2474 10 месяцев назад +144

    "I'm 100 years old. Bit too old to join up, I think?" A treasure of a man.

    • @m4a1_delta66
      @m4a1_delta66 2 месяца назад +5

      He would do it probably all over again given another 100 years😭😭😭😭

  • @Aaron_mf
    @Aaron_mf 10 месяцев назад +380

    Watching Craig assist John in hearing the questions truly touched my heart.

  • @joebest-rotheray493
    @joebest-rotheray493 10 месяцев назад +331

    The story Liz tells of the guys dropping off their dead comrades and going back into the fight is so powerful

    • @singularity_of_1
      @singularity_of_1 5 месяцев назад +35

      jonathan horne, william aldridge, james backhouse, joseph jurphy, daniel simpson
      Celer et Audax
      All of 2rifles and more so all of us in 9 platoon will never forget them

    • @duncankeary6767
      @duncankeary6767 Месяц назад

      🫡

    • @devinlindberg253
      @devinlindberg253 27 дней назад +3

      As a combat Medic the casualties sticks out to me the most. I still can’t talk about it without crying. Even hearing her story just hurts.

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 23 дня назад +2

      ​@@singularity_of_1they served alongside Hold 7 from Denmark, consisting of Guards Dragoons, Jydske Dragoons tanks, patrols from Jægerkorpset, and a Platoon of Militia from the Danish Home Guards.
      Denmark lost three soldiers on that deployment.
      There are no nation we Danes are as happy to deploy alongside as our British friends.

    • @joebest-rotheray493
      @joebest-rotheray493 21 день назад +3

      @@devinlindberg253 sorry to hear that, don't be afraid to get professional help dealing with past trauma, and thank you for your service 🙏

  • @RealUKUndergroundHipHop
    @RealUKUndergroundHipHop 11 месяцев назад +1142

    This is heart breaking. Craig the sniper has the world record for the longest kill shot, the guys a true legend .

    • @kylergiroux2831
      @kylergiroux2831 11 месяцев назад +95

      well now he is 4th but yes still amazing

    • @Rigel_Chiokis
      @Rigel_Chiokis 11 месяцев назад +90

      Not a record to be proud of. Yes, job done. But still, not an easy thing to live with (for most people).

    • @PeterNichtlustig0815
      @PeterNichtlustig0815 11 месяцев назад +134

      @@Rigel_Chiokis REALLY proud to be of actually.

    • @eisirt55
      @eisirt55 11 месяцев назад +20

      That Craig guy has so much to offer the world of his commitment can be channelled to another purpose .

    • @fruitlandgrizzly
      @fruitlandgrizzly 10 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@Rigel_Chiokis that's something to be proud of

  • @WarInHD
    @WarInHD 10 месяцев назад +538

    Craig used to hold the world record for the longest confirmed sniper shot. Also the guy who is paralyzed, was in the SBS. The US equivalent is Seal Team 6

    • @WarInHD
      @WarInHD 10 месяцев назад +79

      @NoseyCurio uhhh their training process is identical and the US has better funding. They’re all high caliber guys who do the same job, you can take a guy from Devgru and stick him in SBS and he’ll do the job just as good or vice versa. Same goes for CAG and SAS. They all cross train and augment the units together a lot so this “who’s better” conversation is dumb

    • @thefinalseries
      @thefinalseries 10 месяцев назад +32

      @@WarInHD You’ll actually find the US has adopted a very large proportion of its training techniques from the British. That goes across all branches of the armed forces. The US military is based on ours. So you’re very correct in saying that they can switch and swap without much disruption and I believe that’s the whole idea. The US and the U.K. have a very close bond militarily (despite our previous differences) which I’ve always been very proud of. My grandfather fought in WW2 and always spoke very highly of the US boys. Britain and America though clearly different in size and monetary power are still both world class when the chips our down. No other nations can compare. 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

    • @dylanisboring
      @dylanisboring 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@WarInHD😂yeah, I had no clue what that guy was on about

    • @WarInHD
      @WarInHD 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@thefinalseries definitely, our Green Berets from MACV-SOG cross trained with the SAS. They were experts at jungle/unconventional warfare because of Vietnam but we didn’t have the counter terrorism capability so we all crossed trained and made a universal selection

    • @WarInHD
      @WarInHD 10 месяцев назад

      @@dylanisboring no idea

  • @yorkmanngaming5888
    @yorkmanngaming5888 10 месяцев назад +382

    Toby, man. That guy nearly made me cry. He had the option to go home, refused and then took what I'm gonna call the "ultimate sacrifice" because his life is forever changed. Yet he is still so humble about it.. This is a true RMC and SBS operator, what an absolute legend, I do really hope his former squadron are looking after him and this is the kind of man I don't mind my tax money going towards helping. I'm sure if his injury was moderate/minor he would have kept on protecting. Legend

  • @graboidgang9077
    @graboidgang9077 Год назад +278

    8:15 "you would never leave a comrade behind... If you could help it"
    I may be listening too far into it, but that voice crack there hit me like a punch to the gut.

    • @khewittmusic2561
      @khewittmusic2561 11 месяцев назад +27

      Exactly the same here. Got a bit of a lump on the ol' throat; fella has been places.

    • @IdiotWithEducation
      @IdiotWithEducation 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yea that’s what I thought too

    • @TheCanadiancole
      @TheCanadiancole 10 месяцев назад +7

      You can tell he's seen, and done things that trouble him until today 😔

    • @awesomeman8385
      @awesomeman8385 10 месяцев назад +9

      He seemed to be going out of his way to talk about the good. Prolly saw a lot of bad

    • @m4a1_delta66
      @m4a1_delta66 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah you can see it and I felt the voice crack too choked me up

  • @SimonWorlds
    @SimonWorlds 8 месяцев назад +105

    12 years of service, I can relate to Craig's predicament, this happened to me too. Betrayal on the highest level, so much for loyalty and integrity, the Australian Defence Force has a lot ot answer for. I am upto 9 people that I served with that have suicided now. Yes I have my traumas and PTSD etc, but I am in an ok place now. I have made peace with what it was.

    • @krazyginger6668
      @krazyginger6668 5 месяцев назад +5

      As a young Aussie, this is not only awful to hear but very disappointing in what our Vets are going through after coming back from such tragic events. I could not even begin to imagine what it's like to be in boots such as yours. I was always raised to respect everyone but when nothing is given in return it is real tough keep doing that and I would hate nothing more than to have so many men and women by my side that have earned my full respect to just throw it away. I thankyou for your time and service and wish you all the best

    • @midnightq69
      @midnightq69 4 месяца назад +4

      How do you feel about our war criminals? Was that widely known and was it widespread in Afghanistan amongst our forces or just a small amount of our serving members were scum?

    • @benobrien5252
      @benobrien5252 2 месяца назад +2

      @@midnightq69 Hi, I've recently joined the Army Reserves. When I went through recruit training at Kapooka last year, two of my instructors who were Afghanistan veterans (one was infantry, the other was a combat medic) had a discussion with my recruit platoon about it. They made it very clear that they did not approve of what happened, and what the soldiers involved had gone through beforehand was not an excuse for committing war crimes.
      Obviously I have no idea what it's like to be in their shoes, but so far the impression I've gotten is that many (if not most) Australian combat veterans followed the rules of engagement while they were in Afghanistan, and are against those who didn't.
      Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

    • @midnightq69
      @midnightq69 2 месяца назад +2

      @@benobrien5252 thanks, it’s good to know. At the end of the day I couldn’t care less what the perpetrators went through or felt, there’s zero excuse. It’s like a pedo using their own childhood abuse as an excuse, sickening, Run off and join the Taliban if you want to be a monster.
      I hope every single one is prosecuted without mercy. Though I have my doubts though about how effective the ADF will be about stamping this culture out, they’re the same ones that made Roberts Smith Australia’s most decorated soldier. Crazy and shameful.

    • @benobrien5252
      @benobrien5252 2 месяца назад

      @@midnightq69 If you haven't already done so, I would advise you read the book "Rogue Forces" by Mark Willacy, the guy who did the Four Corners report on the Australian SAS committing war crimes. It's actually pretty interesting, you get an inside look at the culture of the SAS, and the author includes a meeting he had with one of the accused soldiers, to try and get his side of it.

  • @jamesyoungquist6923
    @jamesyoungquist6923 11 месяцев назад +315

    I'm a vet, and this interview has brought me to tears because it really captures the horrifying reality that war forces on people, no matter which side of civilian or military. Sharing my own memory from 2006, I was stateside and one of my colleagues was deployed to Iraq. Her base sustained mortar fire and killed several troops near her. She contacted me on the military network and asked me to call her family to let them know she was ok, because she couldn't do it herself. I can only imagine how many times that situation has been repeated. War doesn't only affect the individual, it ripples out to their family and friends

    • @aciesabvita6177
      @aciesabvita6177 10 месяцев назад +3

      Don’t worry I was crying too, battle 🇺🇸

    • @Nonamed70
      @Nonamed70 10 месяцев назад +2

      I can only imagine what it is like to be in you guys' position.. What I can do though is to thank all of you for your service and I truely mean that. Without brave people like you who go through hell and back we wouldnt be where todays society is. Its a shame how little action is taken to get you guys the help and mental recovery that is needed after going through what you guys had to go throug. Wish you all the best!

    • @jamesyoungquist6923
      @jamesyoungquist6923 10 месяцев назад

      @@gm8507 yes, that's exactly what I said

    • @Ninjah013
      @Ninjah013 10 месяцев назад +5

      My family didn't even know the danger I was in. I was in a firefight, enemy in the wire situation, that went on and off for the better part of 6 hours. Part of a massive multipromged coordinated attack across multiple bases and was the deadliest week in Afghanistan in years. 9 US and other coalition forces dead and 30+ wounded. Completely chaotic. After things finally came down and we were able to reconsolodate and reorganize, as we were starting to finally take breaks from pulling security we were told the news of what happened was about to start breaking as morning had come to the US. And because of the specific mission and unit I was assigned to, families may not have been able to pit together that what they were seeing on the news happened to us. It was so strange calling my mom the day after and saying I can't say much, but we were involved in what she may have already seen on the news but I'm ok. And then calling my dad saying basically "I'm in the club now" and he knew what I meant. Because he was a combat vet as well. All he said is "I'm sorry. Tell me what you can when you can. I'm glad you're safe"
      Then to have all of those experiences and hardships and death be all for nothing. Left Afghanistan same we we left siagon. I never felt so useless and betrayed in my life when I watched our withdrawl from Afghanistan unfold the way it did...

    • @Ninjah013
      @Ninjah013 10 месяцев назад +2

      @gm8507 you're just pissed because you won't amount to anything in your life. And instead of going out into the world and creating change for the better you're over here pretending you're tough from the protection of your phone or computer screen.

  • @a_soldierz_genetics
    @a_soldierz_genetics 10 месяцев назад +162

    I served in the US Army. I did twelve years of active duty with multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ended up doing a medboard and retiring in 2014 because of injuries during deployments. I can relate with what Craig was saying about feeling abandoned and shunned, once he started seeking treatment. I haven’t spoken to any of my platoon members since I got out because I felt they turned their back on me. I would’ve died for any of them, on any day and came close on a few missions. I was diagnosed with ptsd, night terrors, depression, and a list of other things. After the diagnosis I was placed in a platoon of injured soldiers. When that happened, I felt like the weak soldier the military didn’t want or need. You aren’t included in anything the company does besides motor pool cleanup. I don’t have anyone I can actually call a friend because like they said, civilians just can’t understand what we’ve been through. There is no brotherhood like the one in the military. I miss the military every single day but I love what I do now for work. From one veteran to another, I love y’all 🤙

    • @morganbelew811
      @morganbelew811 10 месяцев назад +4

      I greatly appreciate your service to this country. I have nothing to give you but a kind word. This country is seriously lacking in veteran support. I cannot imagine what you have seen, but I credit my ability of being able to relax at home safely to people like you. A million times, and sincerely, thank you!

    • @eleonora4284
      @eleonora4284 10 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for your service ❤

    • @nbawinningtips
      @nbawinningtips 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@eleonora4284he will burn in hell

    • @camiloparada9529
      @camiloparada9529 10 месяцев назад +4

      I only served one term with one combat deployment to Afghanistan in the Marines, but just my humble opinion, it really helps to understand that you did your best and you are human, not just that, a brave human willing to risk your life for a purpose, and that is more than most people in the world can say.

    • @a_soldierz_genetics
      @a_soldierz_genetics 10 месяцев назад

      @@morganbelew811 thank you! I loved every minute of it. We had our bad days but we also had a lot of good days. I just watched your apple picking video. I’ve always wanted to do that lol

  • @eevvaann11
    @eevvaann11 8 месяцев назад +31

    Craig is a super hero, still being able to say he would rejoin the military even though he has been treated so bad.

  • @kateroberts4254
    @kateroberts4254 10 месяцев назад +154

    Sept 14 2008 IED blast I was T1 and thanks to the heli guys and they're guts and dedication I am still here today so thanks to all of you for all the effort I salute you all... PTE W. 252

  • @Nonamed70
    @Nonamed70 10 месяцев назад +71

    Bro Craig really is a lone survivor.. what a sad giant he is. So heart wrenching to see how we treat our veterans across all armies, coutnries and nationalities.

  • @seangearhart4616
    @seangearhart4616 11 месяцев назад +189

    We lose an average of 22 combat veterans here a day in the States. Its a tragedy that seems to have no lasting fix. 😔 Proud of you all for your sacrifice for your country! 🇺🇲🇬🇧

    • @sharkbait_11b
      @sharkbait_11b 11 месяцев назад +9

      It's actually closer to 40 of you include current service members with that sadly

    • @VinnyUnion
      @VinnyUnion 11 месяцев назад +6

      They're getting older, not younger. So of course. Especially WW2 veterans which are getting beyond 100 years. We don't have that much longer to speak to the link of the past.

    • @JokerInk-CustomBuilds
      @JokerInk-CustomBuilds 11 месяцев назад

      they didn't sacrifice for their country. They sacrificed to keep the warmachine alive. American economy is dependent on war.

    • @HighTreason007
      @HighTreason007 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@VinnyUnion they’re talking about suicide.

    • @TheMrBADGAS
      @TheMrBADGAS 11 месяцев назад

      Wow so many in one day? I figured those numbers would be weekly. Either way, war is a terrible fate for all these souls.

  • @noseydaveman9940
    @noseydaveman9940 10 месяцев назад +14

    My South African Brother. Your strength knows no bounds my boy ❤️

  • @colinward1007
    @colinward1007 Год назад +172

    Ive never served in the military but have a few friends that have. Really felt for Craig when he explained how abandoned he felt. Heart goes out to him and, if he ever reads my comment, I'd simply like to say "thank you for your service and I truly hope you find peace and a purpose - take care fella".

  • @stevedunn5546
    @stevedunn5546 11 месяцев назад +196

    This is the most emotionally moving interview i have ever seen. Craig who doesn't know his purpose now definitely has one. He made me think about things and im sure made many of us rethink our lives.

  • @richieh2006
    @richieh2006 7 месяцев назад +21

    Craig Harrison is one of my heroes. Not just for his military service, but just for being such a strong minded individual. I know he has a lot going on in his mind, but he's helped a lot of people, even with videos like these. Such a gem. (Also a little proud that he's British and has the world record hehe)

    • @MuttleyRacer
      @MuttleyRacer 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm sure you've heard of him, but give some of the talks Christian Craighead has given. His mentality is absolutely mind blowing. Some men and women are beyond what humans are capable of, in physicality and mind.

    • @DrCrabfingers
      @DrCrabfingers 6 месяцев назад

      It's interesting you say that because everytime I hear Craig being interviewed he says that the world record is totally unimportant, as in, he couldn't give a shit....it was all about trying to take out an elevated gun position to help his mates that were being fired upon. Truly I think the world record is for people on civvy street, that is people who have no real understanding of deployment and the demands of military personnel. Oh you are proud....sorry I get what you are saying now.

    • @penaldo38
      @penaldo38 14 дней назад

      Doesn’t have the world record anymore byw

  • @CymruEmergencyResponder
    @CymruEmergencyResponder 10 месяцев назад +35

    You have a purpose Craig. To tell your story. To inspire. To ensure that no other veteran suffers the indifference displayed to you by your regiment and the MoD. That is your purpose, and a noble one at that!

  • @larspossum9201
    @larspossum9201 7 месяцев назад +5

    I love that the one sniper relayed the question to the older gent! Very respectful

  • @pheynx7573
    @pheynx7573 10 месяцев назад +27

    My wife's grandfather served in the Navy in WW2 and the Korean War. We would mostly talk about WW2. He was a corpseman. I would ask him about things here and there, but I would never ask about things that I thought were too personal. One day, he told about his ship being attacked and his friends, along with his commanding officer being killed, I saw the tears stream down his face. I just sat there and listened.

  • @welcometonewearth
    @welcometonewearth Год назад +78

    Words cannot capture the gratitude and debt we owe to these guys. Thank you for everything you have done for us Craig, Liz, Toby and John. When I hear the stories from Iraq/Afghanistan, I cannot help but think 'for what? These guys experienced grave harm for what?' So the oil companies and defence contractors could make more cash? I hope George Bush, Dick Cheaney, Tony Blair and all the people behind this debacle suffer immensely.

    • @adamrules01
      @adamrules01 10 месяцев назад

      How Tony Blair has avoided justice for what he did only speaks to the level of corruption and cronyism in the UK legal system and government.

    • @FreshhFittClips
      @FreshhFittClips 27 дней назад

      what debt??? killing others and then coming home crying about it. how about don't join the military full stop

  • @zxr-cade2026
    @zxr-cade2026 Год назад +114

    Finally it’s about time lad bible did a full version of this video, these people are real life superheroes 🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @MuttleyRacer
    @MuttleyRacer 6 месяцев назад +33

    Hearing Craig talk about the parallels of Military PTSD and civilian PTSD is, I don't know, enriching to myself?
    I've spent 10 years of my life screwed up, having found my dad strung himself up in the garage, the cut down, the eyes, the details, all after spending all of my life before that being physically abused by him. I've always questioned how i meant to feel about that day.
    Having a PTSD diagnosis, I've had so much shame and quietness about it, I've told 2 people since that i got diagnosed, and no one close to me about how it's affecting me.
    I've been desperate to talk to someone, and the 4 capital letters labelling what i feel and the stigma around someone who never was able to serve as planned (being rejected on the grounds of the diagnosis i got a year prior).
    Thank you Craig, might try and borrow someones ear.

    • @goodshipkaraboudjan
      @goodshipkaraboudjan 2 месяца назад +1

      Keep on keeping on mate. It's not weak to speak.

    • @axphykz1669
      @axphykz1669 Месяц назад +1

      i am in your boat brother. stay strong.

    • @cookiemonster2299
      @cookiemonster2299 9 дней назад

      Can be so difficult to start to share but once past that hurdle it gets easier, small steps big gains, takes time and courage but very worth it. ❤️

  • @dansactive756
    @dansactive756 11 месяцев назад +44

    I was going in the army when I was 16, I competed my tests, I got turned down at the last minute due to a knee operation from a bike crash. They said if I do a 3 month plan where I run a certain distance everyday with proof they will let me continue. Best thing that ever happened to me was not perusing it for that 3 months. All of my mates that have came out the military have changed so much, they’re sad, they don’t wanna talk to you, 2 of them are dead. War is disgusting and pointless and if you let your kids join, more fool you. I would never in a million years agree to any of my kids going to fight a war that means nothing. Head up guys your alive, enjoy it.

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 10 месяцев назад

      I’d say letting your kid join the cadets of any of the forces is ok, but tell them to not get suckered into actually signing up.
      It’s good for them to have that foundation level of training and weapons handling ingrained early on, just incase the shit ever really hits the fan in a big enough way for conscription to happen.

    • @kidkique
      @kidkique 9 месяцев назад

      What about a war that means something?

    • @dansactive756
      @dansactive756 9 месяцев назад

      @@kidkique problem is, it never does

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@kidkique The ‘dicks, assholes, and pussies’ speech from Team America actually perfectly describes the only circumstances wars really justified, and that’s taking down assholes. If Hitler had been left to it, the atrocities against Jews, gays, gypsies, and the disabled would’ve continued, if sadam was left to it, the genocide of Kurds would’ve carried on, etc.

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 8 месяцев назад

      @@Jonathan_Doe_what good did we do in Afghanistan and Iraq. Fucking nothing. We wasted a whole generation of soldiers in countries all of the world for a pointless war and one we were lied into. And that’s not even the cost of human lives we wasted over there. I’ve never met a combat vet in my entire life who sounded like a healthy human being. War just screws your up for life and should be avoided at any cost

  • @1980alsful
    @1980alsful 10 месяцев назад +9

    The bit about the individual flags covering up the lads really got to me.

  • @bri_____
    @bri_____ 10 месяцев назад +9

    Lad bible,
    Please interview absolutely every WW2 Vet you can possibly find, as quickly as u can !

  • @MrG77
    @MrG77 3 месяца назад +5

    Liz describing the stretchers and flags really hit me aswell. When I first saw the coffins with the flags on the Hercules plane of these young soldiers I shed a tear I really did. So sad. War is sometimes something that has to be done to stop evil but what sadness it brings is undescribable.🙏

  • @mrkiosk245
    @mrkiosk245 11 месяцев назад +24

    I'm so grateful to these guys for doing things like this the courage and bravery they have shown not just in their service but doing interviews like this, it must be extremely uncomfortable, but I think it is so important to attempt to convey these thoughts and feelings.

  • @Drumming_Monkey
    @Drumming_Monkey 8 месяцев назад +7

    Fuck...when Craig told how they basically all let him down and disowed him..that was tough. You could clearly see and hear the pain.

  • @Lone_GamerUK
    @Lone_GamerUK 10 месяцев назад +8

    John, Craig, Lizz & Toby - thank you for sharing - you all are special & thankyou for your service - you all have a purpose still, by doing this you affect people lives - may you all get through the dark times & it awful to hear how some don’t get supported. Best Regards. ❤

  • @3dogsdigging94
    @3dogsdigging94 Год назад +5

    Thank you, each one of you, thank you for your service. It is greatly appreciated.

  • @izakgary3170
    @izakgary3170 Год назад +25

    I think this was one of the most difficult videos for me to watch and yet i couldn't imagine regretting having done so... I really hope you find the support you need Craig... it's a shame and that's an understatement. I've been drawn to your story in particular ever since you first shared with Bible and I for one am incredibly thankful that you did.

  • @SuperOutloud
    @SuperOutloud Год назад +17

    What a tough interview to have gone through much less watch and listen. What brave men and women who volunteer to serve and what they have to endure for the rest of their lives. We certainly don’t do enough for veterans.

  • @scotttucker2298
    @scotttucker2298 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you to each and everyone of you for your service. Please know that many more people than you think care!

  • @timsecord8207
    @timsecord8207 11 месяцев назад +8

    Thank each of you for your service. Everyone of you is important to those of us that remained at home!🇬🇧🇨🇦

  • @Normac1994
    @Normac1994 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you all for your sacrifices and service 🙏🏻

  • @thomasbrowning998
    @thomasbrowning998 10 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for sharing your military experience. Each of you are invisible hero’s. Invisible because of your time and missions have bettered our lives but we as civilians don’t know what you have gone through. Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • @leemichel8199
    @leemichel8199 11 месяцев назад +22

    I lost contact with my battalion for the same reason .the only people who actually gave a hoot was SSAFA .The only ones who helped .i still feel like shit and every day is a struggle, like survivor guilt or sometimes wishing the world would be better off if it was me who got killed .leaving .left me mentally and physically worse than if i had been shot ,the sence of betrayal was and still is painful ..the ptsd is still haunting me after all these years ..i feel your pain guys .may god bless you all .and know you are appreciated and im truly thankful for your service and sacrifices you did and still suffer from .forever brothers and sisters ..god bless you all have a fantastic life ... Lee

    • @warhawkofchogoris8555
      @warhawkofchogoris8555 10 месяцев назад +2

      Survivor's guilt is a daily struggle of mine as well. I love you brother and always will.

  • @stephanwright5340
    @stephanwright5340 9 месяцев назад +2

    This has to be the most important and just incredible interviews as well as all our veteran interviews still alive. And recorded. I thank you all for everything you’ve done every sacrifice all your service. People will never understand. I dropped out the army before I was an adult as big soldier and have lost the most important person in my life to suicide. My grandad brought me up and couldn’t take it as well as really bad family problems and hard deaths. And we will never understand I have PTSD and still won’t understand. And I don’t have parents or anything I’ve been alone really since that December 22nd 2014. Can’t imagine how hard it is to choose to fight for your country and to go through life with all these memories trauma. Just remember guys your all f******g stunning people and I’m so happy to see you still going and fighting please share and keep going. For all the brothers fallen keep there spirit and memory going. And to see you Craig over the years mate I know this means f*** all but Craig your purpose is this and training using your akillls for self defence and to try and show the realities and to save future soldiers to what can happen when your diagnosed with CPTSD. It’s a disgrace my grandad took his life because he was the same and his daughter was born and nearly died and had her organs all on the outside and they lost a son 2 miscarriages and because he refused to stay on exercise they disowned him 9 years and he was disowned before the old ten year mark for pension de ranked from Sargent. One guy who came to the funeral he talked to and he never got help and never spoke unless drunk about what he went through and killing taking life’s in war. It’s a disgrace how you soldiers have been treat and my grandad would still be here I think if he was listened to. This is your purpose Craig to fu**** this bull shit and give soldiers the ear and the respect they deserve absolutely disgusting disgrace it really is really really annoying grit your teeth and I can’t even imagine for you mate. Especially for 16 exact same as my grandad after loosing his mum at 13. He had nothing and give his life to the cavalry. I really hope you guys find peace your amazing people. And can’t thank you all enough it really is a close thing to my heart ❤️ nothing but love respect 🫡 and if I ever see you guys I owe you all as many rounds of what ever drink I hope I can grow up to be like you guys just so so much good in you.

  • @robinlundqvist8048
    @robinlundqvist8048 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you guys for sharing. Thank you for your service, amazing to get the opportunity to hear everyones stories.

  • @garyturnbull7523
    @garyturnbull7523 10 месяцев назад +3

    More respect due than anyone on youtube could ever offer. Thanks to all four of these incredible people.

  • @richnegs5828
    @richnegs5828 Год назад +14

    God bless you all, thank you for what you’ve done and go through. Coming from the son of a veteran. 🇦🇺

  • @hawaiiankine732
    @hawaiiankine732 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you all for your service! 🙏🏻. Though I will never understand the reality of what all veterans go through. I respect them and appreciate all they do to preserve what freedom we have left.

  • @JonesingUSAF
    @JonesingUSAF 11 месяцев назад +8

    Fuck this hard to watch. After being out since 2012, I’m finally putting myself through therapy that I really should have done long ago, but I wasn’t ready to accept that. Brothers and sisters in arms, I love you all and thank you so much for the sacrifices you all made. For the brothers and sisters that never came home, thank for all you’ve done and I hope to see you in Valhalla…

  • @-Beon
    @-Beon Год назад +6

    Bless these brave individuals what amazing people Thankyou for your service❤

  • @carlseager6340
    @carlseager6340 11 месяцев назад +4

    You could listen to them all day. I used to listen to my dad talk about his time during the war and was so proud of him and I would hang on his every word. Thank you guys and girls for what you did for our country.
    Sadly nowadays we just letting the country rip itself apart.

  • @susanwilliams7814
    @susanwilliams7814 2 месяца назад +2

    To the gent in the wheel chair. I live in South Africa. I lived through the times of Apartheid the military was part of our lives from my early childhood. I can hear you're by the South African accent. I am also a disabled person. Both my grandfather's fought in WW2. They came back forever changed. The PTSD is different it had a horrendous ripple effect on both my paternal and maternal family. I don't understand war. There are no winners just broken hearts emotions and the relentless effect of PTSD. You are very brave. I salute you all. Blessings always ❤

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you all for your service. ✌️&❤ from Phx, AZ, US

  • @LiberaNosAMalo
    @LiberaNosAMalo 10 месяцев назад +7

    Great video. Very well filmed. Such bravery by all. Just so sad to hear about how they all feel now. It’s hard leaving the forces. Even harder if you don’t have the right support & service buddies around to help you.

  • @kylesheehan7217
    @kylesheehan7217 10 месяцев назад +5

    Can appreciate where you're coming from. 12 years RAF medic, became paramedic and left a few years after. If it wasn't for my medical colleagues, some therapy and plenty of tears I think my head would be in the dirt. It's amazing how quick the forces disassociate with you, fucked up.
    Nice interview guys, hope you're all well. Max respect

  • @danieldyde3290
    @danieldyde3290 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you guys, nothing but respect and alot of love.

  • @iammyriad71
    @iammyriad71 10 месяцев назад +1

    You all are my heroes, and I thank you for all you have done to keep me and mine safe.
    Thank you to every service person that let's people like me enjoy the freedom that we have.

  • @mickltlbjhbih3909
    @mickltlbjhbih3909 Год назад +5

    Nothing but love and respect for these type of people

  • @kelvinburn7743
    @kelvinburn7743 11 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you all for your service. Incredible and inspirational human beings. We need to ensure that an appropriate support network is introduced for our heroes and heroines. The MOD and broader government should be ashamed of themselves that this isn't already a condition of service

  • @parusyte
    @parusyte 5 месяцев назад +2

    Going through a breakup right now, this video honestly helps me toughen up a bit. Major respect to all the veterans out there

  • @paulcooper6657
    @paulcooper6657 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for your service. God bless you all 🙏👍♥️

  • @Jon_Doh
    @Jon_Doh Год назад +12

    That was tough but amazing, Respect too all these people.

  • @criscolgan5546
    @criscolgan5546 11 месяцев назад +8

    When the gentleman said how we miss the comradery, it brought me to tears with how on the nose correct it is

  • @neilblack1424
    @neilblack1424 10 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing interview and thank you to all involved to share there lives with us and thank you for doing what you did

  • @neowolfsden
    @neowolfsden 10 месяцев назад +1

    I feel it is important to say "thank you "to these people, for the service, for the dedication, and especially for what it costs them. Because they do it for us and it is important, very very important that we acknowledge that. I have nothing but respect for those who serve and make these sacrifices. We civilians may not understand what they go through, but there are those of us who are thankful for you, deeply and what you do. So thank you, from my heart.

  • @lazylad8544
    @lazylad8544 6 месяцев назад +4

    Heroes every one of them. Thank you all for your service and sacrifice.

  • @onthefly4711
    @onthefly4711 10 месяцев назад +9

    What an emotional interview. Craigs story is so sad while I really like the sarcasm of the WWII Veteran. "I´m 100 yeras old, I´m a bit old to join again"

  • @lindsaybrown4910
    @lindsaybrown4910 10 месяцев назад +1

    4 people that deserve a massive thank you from the people of this country! Huge respect from me!

  • @ukredman
    @ukredman 5 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing interview. Utmost respect to all of them!

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Год назад +55

    War veterans certainly have interesting insights to share. May God bless them.

    • @3dogsdigging94
      @3dogsdigging94 Год назад +1

      As well as the loved ones around them.

  • @twangoldenbass
    @twangoldenbass 11 месяцев назад +5

    From the USA- we’re proud of you, we love you, we lift up your amazing selflessness and thanks to this channel for highlighting your incredible servitude. To each one of you and your respective countries, may you find your purpose again; you are loved and appreciated by many whose names you may not know. Bless each of your shining lights, especially in a world with shadows.

  • @brushhead
    @brushhead 3 месяца назад +1

    A truly sobering watch. Respect to you all.

  • @stevensmith5232
    @stevensmith5232 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome interview. Thank you so much!

  • @lisalynnn
    @lisalynnn 8 месяцев назад +3

    The only civilians with even the tiniest smidgen of understanding what it is like for soldiers are their children. As the daughter of an Army veteran who served in Vietnam and other missions, I watched my dad live through the horrors of PTSD during and after his service. I saw how lonely he was when he retired from active duty and entered the reserves. Thankfully, we have a lot of family members who have served in the armed forces. They helped a bit, but he missed his friends. Missing the banter is something that comes up in conversations with my friends and family who are in the service or retired. I can't imagine what it was like for him to only have his wife and young children around him all of the time. He did have a lot of fun raising us. We were idiots and he loved the chaos. Back then, we didn't have all of modern technological ways to reconnect with his buddies.
    My dad died at the age of 40 due to an undiagnosed health problem that was exasperated by alcoholism. He was a good man, and he lamented over the people he killed, whether while he was asleep or awake. He didn't regret being a soldier, but those memories were impossible to outrun or drink away. I was just a little girl when he died, so I never knew him from an adult perspective. For this reason, any time a video like this one pops up on auto-play or what have you, I stop and listen to the stories soldiers tell. It's important to listen and try to be empathetic regardless of your stance on war. You'll never know what it's like, but you can try to understand these wonderful human beings. These stories help me understand my dad as a man and not just as my dad. I miss him a lot, and I'm proud to be his daughter. Thank you all for sharing with us.

  • @mraaronhawkes7654
    @mraaronhawkes7654 10 месяцев назад +4

    I feel sorry for Craig and the way he was abandoned by the army and he’s got no one to talk to is heartbreaking he give his whole life to the army and there’s no recognition there, that needs to change having support after active duty is the up most important thing. And to all the veterans out there I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service. Same goes to the active personnel of the military a massive thank you ❤️

  • @user-je8kq2cg6u
    @user-je8kq2cg6u Месяц назад +1

    What a heartbreaking account of their experiences in the military. These are truly special men and women and I am in awe of their bravery. Thank you for your service so that we are safe. God bless you❤🫶

  • @viking_fisherman
    @viking_fisherman 5 месяцев назад +1

    Respect and appreciation to each of these brave souls, their service and sacrifices…..and to their families who serve and sacrifice in support of their loved ones on the front lines.

  • @stevenwalker2634
    @stevenwalker2634 10 месяцев назад +23

    I was in the US Army for three years, never in combat. Something that stood out for me in this extraordinary interview is the transition I experienced in the military as my sense of loyalty to friends and family grew into a quick willingness to give my life to protect any of my comrades without a second thought. This became an instinct that has stayed with me my whole life. The lethality inherent to military training extends from learning how to be lethal to how to self sacrifice to protect your fellow soldiers from injury and death. There truly is a gap between that part of the person one becomes as a soldier and the counterpart of one who hasn’t had that experience. I’m 80 now and have no friends who have been soldiers. Though I have good friends and family, that part of me feels terribly alone sometimes, as though in a world of strangers. I get medical treatment through the VA and every time I go to my clinic I feel a powerful emotional connection to everyone I see there though I don’t even know their names. They feel like brothers and sisters to me, my soul relaxes, and I feel at home in a way I feel no where else. I stand with these four veterans and thank them for bearing witness. I hope Craig has found a way out of his sense of estrangement. In my mind all my brothers and sisters with PTSD bear scars of honor, and I’m certain that’s the attitude of the vast majority of veterans. Peace and respect to you, Brother, and shame on any who would turn their back on you.

  • @Rigel_Chiokis
    @Rigel_Chiokis 11 месяцев назад +8

    John was totally correct. The comradeship. I joined the Canadian Armed Forces at age 17. I had been bullied and outcast by other kids from kindergarten to grade 11 (the grade I was in when I enlisted). In high school, I had given up on trying to make friends. I didn't trust people. I knew everyone just wanted to hurt me. I joined the military and it took a bit of time, but I suddenly discovered that I had a new family of just over 400 people, who not only accepted and respected me, but they would brave a hail of bullets to pull me to safety. And I would willingly do the same for any one of them. No other group of humans have ever been closer to me than the women and men of the Ontario Regiment, 34th RCAC, Light Armoured Reconnaissance, Canadian Armed Forces. Now I am a member of the Royal Canadian Legion, mostly a civilian organization devoted to caring for veterans. My local branch had a Buddy Check Program; they do little gatherings or free lunches etc. at the legion hall just for us veterans. We're able to get together and enjoy a bit of that comradeship once again.

  • @jamiesmitham
    @jamiesmitham 29 дней назад +1

    thank you guys we really appreciate what you do for us xx

  • @cw7767
    @cw7767 5 месяцев назад +2

    I visit John now and then with mutual friends and he really is a gentlemen. Inspiring beyond words.

  • @polkbritton
    @polkbritton 11 месяцев назад +6

    My paternal grandfather was a photographer/waist gunner aboard B-17s flying out of England during WWII. On the topic of killing he said when you're shooting in aerial combat you're just focused on downing the enemy's aircraft, the thought of killing the enemy pilot was secondary. His PTSD turned him into an alcoholic and he was a very unpleasant person.
    My dad's best friend served in Vietnam with the 1st Cavalry Division at landing zone X-ray (made famous by the movie "We Were Soldiers"). He dealt with PTSD the rest of his life --nightmares, flashbacks, guilt, the whole nine yards. Not long before he passed away he told my dad he hadn't had a full night's sleep since coming back from Vietnam. Awful really.

  • @kevlowe3181
    @kevlowe3181 10 месяцев назад +3

    Huge respect to all of them

  • @kieranscotland1170
    @kieranscotland1170 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nothing but respect for people like this 🙏🏻 🇬🇧

  • @carabus0354
    @carabus0354 29 дней назад +1

    What amazing people. Thank you all for your service to our country. I always wished I had served, sadly I didn't. Much respect.

  • @jayjames9520
    @jayjames9520 10 месяцев назад +5

    WE need more of this, as exposing as it may be for both sides.

  • @Scarletman1962
    @Scarletman1962 Год назад +12

    What a fantastic group of human beings, gave their everything to serve their country, abandoned to survive in a world alien to them. My heart and thanks go out to each and every one of them.
    Thank you for your service guys.

  • @s.o.s.exploration2412
    @s.o.s.exploration2412 27 дней назад +1

    Really appreciate the openness to share yourself as well as your past with us. I have repeatedly stated to those I am friends with and family that served. We may not know exactly what you have gone through, but please do not let yourself believe that I care any less than what you believe I do. As there are not enough words or actions that I can express that would articulate or resolve my appreciation for sacrificing a portion of your life so others can live the way we do as well as face the worst aspects of human nature.

  • @ChurritoFrio
    @ChurritoFrio 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is incredible thank you for sharing your stories

  • @72mossy
    @72mossy 10 месяцев назад +6

    My dad was an Irish UN peacekeeper in the Congo in 1961, he was involved in several combat situations, they came accross several missionaries out there that had been massacred, as a 21 year old he had nightmares and terrors when he came home. His way of combating his nightmares etc was off to England for work. He left the Army and left for London, worked in Cricklewood and Hendon but he came home again in late 60s.

  • @johnchandler6474
    @johnchandler6474 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you all for your bravery 😢

  • @sidbobby3233
    @sidbobby3233 9 месяцев назад

    Extremely powerful and extremely grateful to all who served & serve. Thank you ladies and gentlemen 😎😎👊👊👍👍👌👌✌✌

  • @ghmsr8062
    @ghmsr8062 10 месяцев назад

    I served in the US Army from 83 to 91. Never in a combat deployed unit. The combat veterans would always say you didn't miss anything. I get that they experienced stuff I didn't. Every chance I get to thank a veteran, I do. Combat vets I tell them that I'm glad they are still with us. Thank you for getting this interview out there. Hopefully more people will watch and go forward with the knowledge of what serving in any capacity does to real people.

  • @rct1710
    @rct1710 Год назад +12

    God Bless Our War Veterans ❤❤❤

    • @DianaKazimiera-
      @DianaKazimiera- Год назад

      Absolutely ! YES...this is absolutely #Elite
      I wish good luck 🕊️
      Great respect

  • @evanescencegal01
    @evanescencegal01 Год назад +13

    Love this channel’s content ❤

  • @handsomenumber1393
    @handsomenumber1393 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for my and my son's freedom. I hope the politicians see this.

  • @bubbabrown6917
    @bubbabrown6917 14 дней назад

    Hats of to these warriors, i wish i could understand what they are feeling and be able to offer words of love, condolences, honor, and comfort

  • @jackmunday7602
    @jackmunday7602 10 месяцев назад +5

    I hope all these guys stayed in contact after this video, and all do what they can to help each other out.

  • @ofentseorekeng
    @ofentseorekeng Год назад +18

    Its amazing that they are still alive but it hurts me knowing the effect the war had on them

  • @sarahjamiesonn
    @sarahjamiesonn Месяц назад

    As a Canadian, thank you for all of your service. My grandfather was a gunner in WWII and my dad has always made sure we honour those who gave their lives for our freedom. I like to acknowledge all of our allies veterans. The world may be a crazy place today, but we're all so priviledged and able to live comfortably because of you.

  • @hejnye
    @hejnye 9 дней назад

    You are all very cherished and loved by so very many, I know how hard it is to ask for help, we are here for all of you.