God, he is zombie drunk. I used to drink myself into that state / had to deal with people in that state. Seeing Nate have to try to navigate that situation on stage... my heart goes out to him.
@@IndyLiveMusic congratulations: I had a psychotic break where my minor psychosis (I am the son of a schizo cult leader you have heard of so I am terrified of hearing voices) turned to full fledged music/choral/chant and shit like "i have witnesses" and all of this other stuff, and I thought it was ... nah, you guys think I am crazy, but that is because I am. anyway. I decided to stop being a mean person for it, and I am a month clean from fentanyl. never thought I would quit it. My foot ulcers are already fading. "you are missing your audience with conor oberst" is what I heard while my first therapy meeting was occurring. I think drugs made me more selfish and isolated than I ever could have imagined and I hurt a lot of people. I thought not interacting and living in my own world made even lyrics mean different things and my own words, the words of others suddenly seem less hostile. If you go around feeling like you're a piece of shit, you might look, act and smell like one... you will certainly talk like one. Anyway, if you are still sober,. cool. If not, now is the time, or maybe not. Just be nice to yourself because someone loves you.
I see a lot of people commenting under these saying “I would never pay to go to one of these shows!” I’ve seen them twice over the past year. Once, he was pretty shitfaced and slurring his speech and sort of out of it. The other was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, and he seemed completely sober. The latter show was only a few days before this one. It’s a gambit, but if you love Bright Eyes to the extent I do, it’s definitely worth risking a rough show when the great shows are truly fantastic. With that being said, I definitely hope that Conor can get better, it’s hard to see someone who has done so much for me through his music like this.
When I saw them he seemed like Pretty drunk but he was also like dancing around and seemed to be having a good time. I really hope to see him again he put on a really good show
@@skifullydone8165 assuming this isn't a troll. Check out Elliots work. Its probably one of the closest artists to Conor I can think of. If you watch Good Will Hunting odds are you already know and love elliots songs.
he was worse at the WWWY 2022. fell off the stage, punched himself repeatedly, deliberately knocked over expensive camera equipment, began kicking big amps off the stage, just pure sloppy rage. quite sad.
Connor still getting stupid drunk in 2023. I thought he outgrew this phase? I guess i stopped maying attention for.a.little.over a decade, looks about right lol
Conor was trashed and went on a few rants. He was great for most of the night, but the last songs in the encore got messy. He ranted about Nashville for about 10 minutes.
@@EmmaTodd1995 thanks for the explanation. I've seen him trashed and I've seen him very trashed, but this seemed much worse than anything I personally witnessed.
@@EmmaTodd1995 Saw him in nashville last year and i don't blame him it was the weirdest show I've ever seen. he did great but the venue (ryman) was super off for the show it was
@@alextheladyI saw him in 2007 and 2010 at the Ryman and it was phenomenal and full of energy and the crowd was great as well. It must be a change in the scene or something? I hope he continues to play in Nashville and gets help with hid drinking, I love Conor and BE as lyricist and musicians *so* much...
Nothing like the extreme sense of miserable self indulgence by which one can lose themselves to self loathing in a very difficult to balance catharsis. All of it is playing with fire and oddly undermines the danger in the decay of one's ability to even identify the existential complications that can leave one empty and confuse the mind with dopamine floods of imagining one's own tragedy. The ones who balance it and can create boundaries and maintain live quite a diverse array of narrative that isn't contained in the fictional presentation of subjectivity and the big other who will eventually weigh you down with their gaze as you try to resolve your embarrassment reduced to a amygdala desperate for self preservation trying to hide from the one who observes you always. You'll project your insecurity and grow contemptuous of anything and anyone, especially those who try to accommodate you because they can't make you love yourself. I think. I don't know man. I am just some schizophrenic cult leaders son who lost themselves to trying to not be a failed musician like their father and now I kind of have no identity but negative space and second guesses. Having to put that on display and have people pay me for it would be a fucking disaster. Thank goodness I privately let the feedback loop concentrate the disappearing self.
Gimme a fuckin break man! Are any of you familiar with his catalog of work? Bands argue and people who struggle with mental illness self medicate. He's played better and he's played worse. He's still a once in a generation lyricist and incredibly prolific. Cut him some slack. I saw the show in Missouri the next night and thought I was a great show despite any imperfections with the set. Once upon a time that was part of the appeal.
Yeah, when he was young it was a big party. Everyone was a part of it. That was appealing. Now he's a middle aged man who needs to be babysat. Behaving the same at 43 as you did at 23 is depressing.
@@CW0123 What's gatekeeping? They're just saying that so much of the music is about being angry, depressed, and getting super fucked up so if you listen to it why would it be surprising that his shows get messy ?
I guess maybe I'm guilty of gatekeeping to people who haven't struggled with those particular problems. I'm just saying if you can't understand his art then it's probably not for you, and if you're put off by a show where he's clearly shit faced then he also probably isn't for you. Save you're money and go see someone else. Save the seats for fans... Of which there are still many. It's past your bedtime anyways.
How about half way lucid and not slurring? I've been to hundreds of shows and the only person I've seen this fucked was Oberst with bright eyes last year. It's uncomfortable seeing someone perform in the middle of full blown addiction. It sucks seeing a fellow human suffering like that. People should stop making excuses for it.
@@morganghetti I’ve seen Bright Eyes 50+ times, at Sokol Underground with about 20 people around 2000 for a surprise show, at The Holland Center, at Memorial Park, at Scottish Rite Hall, and have been to his house a couple times with friends who are close to him. I don’t know Conor myself, though. That said, I’ve never seen him like this during the times I’ve seen his shows. He wasn’t this bad until after Phoebe Bridgers and him seemed to go their separate ways. Yes, she helped him remaking a couple of songs from Fevers & Mirrors last year, but they used to be together all the time for a couple years. I don’t know if they had a relationship, and decided to part, or if they were just friends. Either way: If you look at The Tiny Desk from 2019, where Better Oblivion Community Center performs a few songs, Conor looks happy and healthy and at ease. But something happened after that. Either it’s because she moved on, or perhaps something else happened unrelated to Phoebe -- maybe the pandemic took its toll. Whatever it was, it happened after 2019. My theory is that Phoebe and him were “together,” and one or the other decided to not commit, or to move on. Either way, I think it has something to do with that. But I may be completely wrong. I honestly hope he’s eventually alright, and that things even out for him.
@@wildmercuryfilms I get the sense from his body of work that he really kind of uhh,, is the type of person that kind of just psychologically experiences really deep lows for a few years and then every few years things get more alright for a while. That's one of the things I find so moving about his music. I also hope things even out for him.
![Bright Eyes @ The Observatory in Santa Ana, CA 10-26-2022 [FULL SET]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N_LBf03vVD8/mqdefault.jpg)
God, he is zombie drunk. I used to drink myself into that state / had to deal with people in that state. Seeing Nate have to try to navigate that situation on stage... my heart goes out to him.
I was supposed to be there but was being held on no bond for a misdemeanor. 😥 93 days sober here now 👍🏼
@@IndyLiveMusic congratulations: I had a psychotic break where my minor psychosis (I am the son of a schizo cult leader you have heard of so I am terrified of hearing voices) turned to full fledged music/choral/chant and shit like "i have witnesses" and all of this other stuff, and I thought it was ... nah, you guys think I am crazy, but that is because I am. anyway. I decided to stop being a mean person for it, and I am a month clean from fentanyl. never thought I would quit it. My foot ulcers are already fading. "you are missing your audience with conor oberst" is what I heard while my first therapy meeting was occurring.
I think drugs made me more selfish and isolated than I ever could have imagined and I hurt a lot of people. I thought not interacting and living in my own world made even lyrics mean different things and my own words, the words of others suddenly seem less hostile. If you go around feeling like you're a piece of shit, you might look, act and smell like one... you will certainly talk like one.
Anyway, if you are still sober,. cool. If not, now is the time, or maybe not. Just be nice to yourself because someone loves you.
@@IndyLiveMusichope you are still doing well
I see a lot of people commenting under these saying “I would never pay to go to one of these shows!” I’ve seen them twice over the past year. Once, he was pretty shitfaced and slurring his speech and sort of out of it. The other was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, and he seemed completely sober. The latter show was only a few days before this one. It’s a gambit, but if you love Bright Eyes to the extent I do, it’s definitely worth risking a rough show when the great shows are truly fantastic.
With that being said, I definitely hope that Conor can get better, it’s hard to see someone who has done so much for me through his music like this.
When I saw them he seemed like Pretty drunk but he was also like dancing around and seemed to be having a good time. I really hope to see him again he put on a really good show
He needs rehab. He wont be around much longer at this rate. Extremely sad to see.
Makes me sad to see Conor like this. It was one thing when he was in his 20s getting trashed on stage. But in his 40s, it’s not cute and just sad.
Jeez. Giving elliott smith 2002-2003 vibes. Hope conor will stick around
That's a bit shallow, but I guess the intent is a sort of weird concern.
Except he can’t play guitar and isn’t as talented
@@Distracted_Person Who, conor? Both are great in their own ways. Elliott was a musical and lyrical genius sorta hard for anyone to top him.
@@Distracted_Person Who is Elliot Smith?
@@skifullydone8165 assuming this isn't a troll. Check out Elliots work. Its probably one of the closest artists to Conor I can think of. If you watch Good Will Hunting odds are you already know and love elliots songs.
Nate’s a real one for having to deal with Conor’s drunk sloppy ass 🙄
he was worse at the WWWY 2022. fell off the stage, punched himself repeatedly, deliberately knocked over expensive camera equipment, began kicking big amps off the stage, just pure sloppy rage. quite sad.
nice to see he’s still a lush all these years later
Incredibly sad show in my opinion.
Connor still getting stupid drunk in 2023. I thought he outgrew this phase? I guess i stopped maying attention for.a.little.over a decade, looks about right lol
Looks like it was a blast
Shit, I pay extra to see them belligerently drunk!!
Sad to see my guy like this now
Anyone who was there care to explain what was going on?
Conor was trashed and went on a few rants. He was great for most of the night, but the last songs in the encore got messy. He ranted about Nashville for about 10 minutes.
@@EmmaTodd1995 thanks for the explanation. I've seen him trashed and I've seen him very trashed, but this seemed much worse than anything I personally witnessed.
@@EmmaTodd1995 Saw him in nashville last year and i don't blame him it was the weirdest show I've ever seen. he did great but the venue (ryman) was super off for the show it was
@@alextheladyI saw him in 2007 and 2010 at the Ryman and it was phenomenal and full of energy and the crowd was great as well. It must be a change in the scene or something? I hope he continues to play in Nashville and gets help with hid drinking, I love Conor and BE as lyricist and musicians *so* much...
Aw what did he say about Nashville? 😢 he’s my absolute fav and I live in Nashville so I hope he continues to come thru here
I love Conor but this is so lame and disrespectful towards his fans...
I saw them last year and he was fucked up just like this
He’d be a guitar popsicle if he pushed me.
Tough guy
Unprofessional and a sad way to present one’s art to the public. Don’t excuse addiction. People who do see their loved ones die before their eyes
This is just disrespectful to his fans. “I’m famous, they’ll love it anyway.”
STOP ENABLING HIM
CAPS LOCK, it's a thing.
Never this is prime Conor drunk rambling
People paying good money to see performers with serious substance abuse issues. Sad.
Nothing like the extreme sense of miserable self indulgence by which one can lose themselves to self loathing in a very difficult to balance catharsis. All of it is playing with fire and oddly undermines the danger in the decay of one's ability to even identify the existential complications that can leave one empty and confuse the mind with dopamine floods of imagining one's own tragedy. The ones who balance it and can create boundaries and maintain live quite a diverse array of narrative that isn't contained in the fictional presentation of subjectivity and the big other who will eventually weigh you down with their gaze as you try to resolve your embarrassment reduced to a amygdala desperate for self preservation trying to hide from the one who observes you always. You'll project your insecurity and grow contemptuous of anything and anyone, especially those who try to accommodate you because they can't make you love yourself. I think.
I don't know man. I am just some schizophrenic cult leaders son who lost themselves to trying to not be a failed musician like their father and now I kind of have no identity but negative space and second guesses. Having to put that on display and have people pay me for it would be a fucking disaster. Thank goodness I privately let the feedback loop concentrate the disappearing self.
Alcohol is not a substance and it's not serious, Mom.
Why post this?
Maybe to warn other people to know what they might expect?
Gimme a fuckin break man! Are any of you familiar with his catalog of work? Bands argue and people who struggle with mental illness self medicate. He's played better and he's played worse. He's still a once in a generation lyricist and incredibly prolific. Cut him some slack. I saw the show in Missouri the next night and thought I was a great show despite any imperfections with the set. Once upon a time that was part of the appeal.
Yeah, when he was young it was a big party. Everyone was a part of it. That was appealing. Now he's a middle aged man who needs to be babysat. Behaving the same at 43 as you did at 23 is depressing.
Lol imagine gatekeeping Bright Eyes in 2023 😂👌
I bet you still think Death Cab for Cutie is good and Jenny Lewis hot
@@CW0123 What's gatekeeping? They're just saying that so much of the music is about being angry, depressed, and getting super fucked up so if you listen to it why would it be surprising that his shows get messy ?
I guess maybe I'm guilty of gatekeeping to people who haven't struggled with those particular problems. I'm just saying if you can't understand his art then it's probably not for you, and if you're put off by a show where he's clearly shit faced then he also probably isn't for you. Save you're money and go see someone else. Save the seats for fans... Of which there are still many. It's past your bedtime anyways.
Well said, man.
If your looking for "polished" maybe save up for Taylor swift or some shit
How about half way lucid and not slurring? I've been to hundreds of shows and the only person I've seen this fucked was Oberst with bright eyes last year. It's uncomfortable seeing someone perform in the middle of full blown addiction. It sucks seeing a fellow human suffering like that. People should stop making excuses for it.
@@morganghetti
I’ve seen Bright Eyes 50+ times, at Sokol Underground with about 20 people around 2000 for a surprise show, at The Holland Center, at Memorial Park, at Scottish Rite Hall, and have been to his house a couple times with friends who are close to him.
I don’t know Conor myself, though.
That said, I’ve never seen him like this during the times I’ve seen his shows.
He wasn’t this bad until after Phoebe Bridgers and him seemed to go their separate ways.
Yes, she helped him remaking a couple of songs from Fevers & Mirrors last year, but they used to be together all the time for a couple years.
I don’t know if they had a relationship, and decided to part, or if they were just friends. Either way: If you look at The Tiny Desk from 2019, where Better Oblivion Community Center performs a few songs, Conor looks happy and healthy and at ease.
But something happened after that. Either it’s because she moved on, or perhaps something else happened unrelated to Phoebe -- maybe the pandemic took its toll.
Whatever it was, it happened after 2019.
My theory is that Phoebe and him were “together,” and one or the other decided to not commit, or to move on. Either way, I think it has something to do with that.
But I may be completely wrong.
I honestly hope he’s eventually alright, and that things even out for him.
@@wildmercuryfilms I get the sense from his body of work that he really kind of uhh,, is the type of person that kind of just psychologically experiences really deep lows for a few years and then every few years things get more alright for a while. That's one of the things I find so moving about his music. I also hope things even out for him.
*you're, but I forgive you.
Unprofessional and a sad way to present one’s art to the public. Don’t excuse addiction. People who do see their loved ones die before their eyes