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  • @LavenderTowne
    @LavenderTowne  3 месяца назад +952

    hey guys! I see a lot of comments requesting an inverted version, but I'm having trouble finding good examples online. If you know of some quotes of female authors writing male characters very strangely, please respond to this comment with the quote and book name for a future video! :)

    • @ianwells7916
      @ianwells7916 3 месяца назад +94

      As a man who likes men, I have made some attempts at reading slash-fic in my misspent youth. It exists, but you are gonna have to plumb the depths of fan-fiction websites to find it, because they way some of those folks try to describe anatomy is what I would call 'poetically Lovecraftian.'

    • @yuissance3623
      @yuissance3623 3 месяца назад +35

      Emm average yaoi? Average chick-lit?

    • @deg8517
      @deg8517 3 месяца назад +1

      @@yuissance3623 she asked for a quote and book name

    • @GhostCabinet
      @GhostCabinet 3 месяца назад +50

      there used to be an inverse subreddit r/womenwritingmen but it got removed from being unmoderated. but something ive found is that most of the "women writing men" stuff all seem to focus more on reputation, dominance and said male characters undying and obsessive devotion to the protagonist/reader than physical characteristics though there are certainly... exceptions. even with this, the only things i find this in tend to be trashy romance smut. not really much to say since this archetype doesn't change all that much between stories/books

    • @ChaoticPerson22
      @ChaoticPerson22 3 месяца назад +11

      @@LavenderTowne This wasn’t in an official book, but as a kid I used to write all my teenage male characters as if they were some sort of “cool punks” or something.
      Here’s one example:
      “Hey Jake. What’s that?”
      “Uhh,” he stuttered not sure if he wanted to respond. “I think it’s a love note…”
      (Here’s where it gets really cringy)
      “A love note?! In high school? That is so dumb and cheesy! Whoever sent it obviously isn’t cool.”
      Well okay it’s not that bad but this is from like 4 or 5 years ago, so I’m cringing really hard. I guess for the time it was not bad writing though.

  • @alexisdied4558
    @alexisdied4558 4 месяца назад +14026

    Most of these just seem like "Writer's hidden fetish" except its not hidden at all you dont gotta dig to realize it.

    • @pearlthenephilim
      @pearlthenephilim 4 месяца назад +477

      Yea the 3rd one when it started going into detail on... the eating habits just... very obviously objectifying someone just eating to survive

    • @Mel_Bat
      @Mel_Bat 4 месяца назад +186

      @@pearlthenephilim I also am under the impression that it has a lot to do with Japanese diet culture and extreme beauty standards that the author may subconsciously empathise (but I don't know whether it was just the character portrayal of the pov guy or women in his other books are described as strangely as here)

    • @Larsen_illustrations
      @Larsen_illustrations 4 месяца назад +118

      I wish they would hide it, i really wish they'd hide it

    • @roofogato
      @roofogato 4 месяца назад +49

      I mean, there's nothing wrong with having these fetishes, just most of these descriptions are goofy / poorly written lol

    • @pearlthenephilim
      @pearlthenephilim 4 месяца назад +69

      @@roofogato I would understand if these descriptions were in a smutty romance novel, but anything else just feels weird

  • @squimblow
    @squimblow 4 месяца назад +4381

    I’m crying lol “I didn’t even know this was a beauty standard I was supposed to be insecure about??? ”

    • @sithlord5149
      @sithlord5149 4 месяца назад +29

      😂

    • @KooblyK
      @KooblyK 3 месяца назад +15

      I think for the toe, he just described it weirdly. He probably just meant that her second toe is longer than her big toe, which plenty of people have, even if it doesn't fit the "ideal" foot shape. But it makes the big toe look shorter by comparison.

    • @Imjustkendall
      @Imjustkendall 2 месяца назад +3

      @@KooblyKnah I think men want long toes now

    • @KooblyK
      @KooblyK Месяц назад

      @@Imjustkendall The better to pick stuff up with

    • @86Corvus
      @86Corvus 27 дней назад

      Its because feminists are psychotic and want to knock all beauty standards claiming its unrealistic- as if idealized standard was supposed to be realistic... And not... Idealized...

  • @tropicalkittie
    @tropicalkittie 4 месяца назад +2942

    1:12 IS NO ONE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW SHE IMPORTED LITERAL MELONS FOR THE CHEST 😭😭😭

    • @Cosmic_x_x_Tears
      @Cosmic_x_x_Tears 4 месяца назад +55

      NOBODY✨

    • @Idklol7107
      @Idklol7107 3 месяца назад +98

      5:20 THE PUPPIES😭😭😭😭

    • @davidCcode
      @davidCcode 3 месяца назад +37

      1: grabbing pictures on the canvas this way is a usual (and casual) technique in the world of cg artist;
      2: it is the idea of the video to take things litteral 😅

    • @hondaaccord1399
      @hondaaccord1399 3 месяца назад +15

      Hands shaking, "the-they weren't even the right melons"

    • @TBHKobsessedperson
      @TBHKobsessedperson Месяц назад +5

      0:56 THE BOOMERANG

  • @inanator
    @inanator 4 месяца назад +2220

    I love how this video has all these silly to low-key eldritch women and then just one normal, attractive lady.

    • @chasestudio2736
      @chasestudio2736 4 месяца назад +575

      ‘she’s just pretty… and happens to be fat’
      like dude was having a philosophical breakdown

    • @Xeorboom
      @Xeorboom 4 месяца назад +187

      ​@@chasestudio2736bro had a panic attack describing someone I'd see as "kinda ideal"

    • @thetruekingofwaffles
      @thetruekingofwaffles 4 месяца назад +140

      @@chasestudio2736 maybe he's in denial like he finds her attractive but he's afraid of being judged by beauty standards by other and that's why the happens to be fat comes in. I love her appearance but she's fat, society says I shouldn't like that, will that make me ostracized? It's a bit sad the more you think of it.

    • @theonlycarpy
      @theonlycarpy 4 месяца назад +35

      @@chasestudio2736that just makes her a 10/10 (im gay)

    • @sahaafa9082
      @sahaafa9082 4 месяца назад +22

      Да. Это забавно. Все остальные странные, чудаковатые и даже немного пугающие существа и просто эта милая, нормальная толстушка. Вау.

  • @idontknow2469
    @idontknow2469 4 месяца назад +11615

    The barely disguised anorexia fetish in the beginning made me WILDLY uncomfortable. Cause actually wtf?

    • @the-postal-dude
      @the-postal-dude 4 месяца назад +456

      at least the writer is using fiction to safely explore what could be very harmful irl

    • @DrakeBoehm
      @DrakeBoehm 4 месяца назад +732

      Like, I can't even understand how people don't immediately understand just how harmful it is by just seeing that description.

    • @milkywaycafe.
      @milkywaycafe. 4 месяца назад +666

      Yeah fetishizing someone who's so unhealthily thin you can see all their bones is vile

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 4 месяца назад +181

      In my class when I was in high school the girls even invented a song or how unsexy it is: go do a spin , anorxic and very sexy wait no … anorxy isn’t sexy lalala in the end you die!! (sounds better in my language)

    • @Rabbitbanana09
      @Rabbitbanana09 4 месяца назад +50

      @@the-postal-dudehow can you be so sure?

  • @mistermanji
    @mistermanji 2 месяца назад +127

    Jolenta is later revealed to have been surgically manipulated, and the idea is that she is basically slowly collapsing under the weight of her impossible figure.
    The passage is from The Book of the New Sun, and she is definitely portrayed as pitiable and freakish every time she appears.

    • @catalinaargyriou8603
      @catalinaargyriou8603 Месяц назад +11

      pooor girl...

    • @Moonstar79
      @Moonstar79 28 дней назад +9

      Wait it was intentional?? That's crazyyy

    • @Craniac223
      @Craniac223 20 дней назад +3

      Wait, so does it belong there or not?

    • @mistermanji
      @mistermanji 20 дней назад +6

      @@Craniac223 I would say no? Because her unnatural appearance is created on purpose, not due to a lack of anatomical understanding by the author.
      Unless you've read the book, it would be very hard to understand that the author made her that way on purpose. The context is incredibly important.

    • @Craniac223
      @Craniac223 19 дней назад +1

      @@mistermanji Thank you for clarifying :)

  • @LeastInsaneUtsu-PFan
    @LeastInsaneUtsu-PFan 4 месяца назад +3750

    The first one was bad, but the worst part is how he just *kept going* like dude. We GET IT.

    • @gachaloseruser
      @gachaloseruser 4 месяца назад +228

      It was a body horror book, atleast.

    • @qwertyuoqwertyuo6508
      @qwertyuoqwertyuo6508 4 месяца назад +22

      PTSD pfp??? utsup fan in the wild??

    • @LeastInsaneUtsu-PFan
      @LeastInsaneUtsu-PFan 4 месяца назад

      @@qwertyuoqwertyuo6508 Wow, Utsu P fans outside of Pinterest? I’m amazed

    • @hashidk6959
      @hashidk6959 4 месяца назад +40

      Honestly no, we dont even get him. Cause thats just so weird...

    • @galaxyjam3742
      @galaxyjam3742 4 месяца назад +4

      @@qwertyuoqwertyuo6508 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO' HELLO!!! ME TOO!!!!! HELLO!!!!!! UTSU-P FAN, THATS ME!!!!!!!!

  • @anam8or
    @anam8or 4 месяца назад +10517

    the way normally everything is malnourished except from their jewels 😭😭

    • @THENOEYEDGIRL_
      @THENOEYEDGIRL_ 4 месяца назад +426

      JEWELS HELP MEMHELP HRLP

    • @maxwellgrimsley
      @maxwellgrimsley 4 месяца назад +467

      “Jewels” is the funniest descriptor for them I’ve ever heard help 💀

    • @gnoot50
      @gnoot50 4 месяца назад +25

      lmao ye

    • @lanishot
      @lanishot 4 месяца назад +155

      family jewels 😭

    • @Blasho950
      @Blasho950 4 месяца назад +185

      When they're literally mostly fat tissue XD

  • @nogenderjustfreg7738
    @nogenderjustfreg7738 4 месяца назад +1630

    One of the biggest insults I’ve gotten was someone saying I was built like a male wattpad authors fetish work 😦

    • @TheyCallmeTheDrink12
      @TheyCallmeTheDrink12 4 месяца назад +269

      That’s a creative ass insult I need to get like the guy/girl that insulted u

    • @lucaskincanyon7393
      @lucaskincanyon7393 4 месяца назад +171

      I’m sorry that’s really funny tho.

    • @miodaiu
      @miodaiu 3 месяца назад +93

      im howling, taking that insult

    • @pakki6555
      @pakki6555 3 месяца назад +74

      now THAT'S an insult 😭

    • @Laebunnii
      @Laebunnii 3 месяца назад +66

      This is giving the same energy as “bruh u calling me out😭 i have thunder thighs n like a slvtty waist but

  • @LiamSomeone
    @LiamSomeone 4 месяца назад +19621

    Body horror based around sexist stereotypes and objectification of the female body is such a hardcore/tragic theme

    • @julioliarts
      @julioliarts 4 месяца назад +476

      There's gotta be a story related to that!

    • @mydogjazz6553
      @mydogjazz6553 4 месяца назад +399

      That kind of reminds me of bloodborne

    • @little_moth
      @little_moth 4 месяца назад +541

      Ooo what about a shape shifter who is trying to appear as a gorgeous woman but only has books like this and human men maybe

    • @Comet0rHasYoutubeNow
      @Comet0rHasYoutubeNow 4 месяца назад +60

      Thats a cool idea

    • @hazakurasuyama9016
      @hazakurasuyama9016 4 месяца назад

      I love Turing fetishes into body horror tbh

  • @gaypossum6774
    @gaypossum6774 4 месяца назад +3651

    The guy with the ‘beautiful fat woman’ saying he’s ’demanded to assume a posture towards her’ is so weird, like??? Who’s forcing ya bud??

    • @abiliv-lf9tz
      @abiliv-lf9tz 4 месяца назад +187

      Fr it's usually the opposite
      They only ask to be treated human

    • @icravedeath.1200
      @icravedeath.1200 4 месяца назад +110

      Fr haruki murakami is a great writer but wtf was that passage😭😭

    • @cryingwatercolours
      @cryingwatercolours 4 месяца назад +32

      i don’t think that’s what they meant at that passage but igy 😭

    • @DanGabrielle
      @DanGabrielle 4 месяца назад +100

      Murakami writes women as if they were a walking sex toy.

    • @the-postal-dude
      @the-postal-dude 4 месяца назад

      the woke agenda or something

  • @muhehehehehehehe
    @muhehehehehehehe 4 месяца назад +584

    The chubby woman made alot more sense after you said it was originally japanese. In japan being overweight isnt really looked up upon let alone approved of, so it would kind off make sense he thought it was weird he was attracted to a woman who isnt “accepted” by the society.

    • @testerwulf3357
      @testerwulf3357 3 месяца назад +114

      I mean yea..but no need for the absolute yap of “I swear I’m not fatphobic or sexist though!! I slept with a few fat women. It was sometimes ok” like 😭 he described NOTHING about her! Just that she was fat, he was a horndog, and then a yap trying to justify his feelings and that he wasn’t a bad person..her objectified her so hard and described sleeping with fat women as “accidental” 💀

    • @muhehehehehehehe
      @muhehehehehehehe 3 месяца назад +10

      @@testerwulf3357 true

    • @SoZettaSlow
      @SoZettaSlow 3 месяца назад +44

      I also feel the POV character in Murakami's work here is not meant to be "in the right", he's kinda a freak in the overall narrative.

    • @Nella_nova
      @Nella_nova 3 месяца назад +11

      Also there is a k!nk for people who like too watch others over-eat and gain lots of weight so that is concerning 😟

    • @muhehehehehehehe
      @muhehehehehehehe 3 месяца назад +6

      @@Nella_nova isnt that called like feeder or something😨

  • @alexisdied4558
    @alexisdied4558 4 месяца назад +7624

    How the hell does someone who's described as being anorexic basically have huge "melons"
    The weight distribution is terrifying. Their chest would literally crush their body and would fall over from lack of balancing.

    • @artCharles
      @artCharles 4 месяца назад +852

      "No but you don't understand its sexy"
      -The Author who wrote that description, probably

    • @AlexandraXera
      @AlexandraXera 4 месяца назад +491

      Fr big honkers need a stronger back to support them

    • @michaelboydston313
      @michaelboydston313 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, honestly I only find tig ol bitties attractive if their proportional to the rest of the body

    • @Bunny_Bill
      @Bunny_Bill 4 месяца назад +447

      Also how can you see her ribs through her shirt😭 through her skin I understand, because I'm like that, but where did she get a shirt that thin😭😭 no way that's possible

    • @Split_tails
      @Split_tails 4 месяца назад +277

      The authour didnt mention the back, so maybe bc the melons are so huge, her back is like totally ripped like all the fat and muscle just went to the back so that it could support the massiveness in the front

  • @GeekInSequins
    @GeekInSequins 4 месяца назад +3689

    Re: the second one: I think the author was trying to describe what is called a Morton's toe. It just means that the second toe sticks out further than the big toe. Some people might consider it elegant because the ancient Greeks did, so it features a lot in their art.

    • @cryingwatercolours
      @cryingwatercolours 4 месяца назад +139

      this and iirc these are sometimes called ballet toes?

    • @Mel_Bat
      @Mel_Bat 4 месяца назад +104

      it probably fits in certain shoe types better

    • @Sevencatsinatrenchcoat
      @Sevencatsinatrenchcoat 4 месяца назад +158

      Yeah, that's what I was thinking
      Side note: This video is literally the only reason I realized I have Morton's toe

    • @lillybell3942
      @lillybell3942 4 месяца назад +45

      Omg, I have that and so does my dad side of the family. I never knew it had a name 😅.

    • @ssaintdolli
      @ssaintdolli 4 месяца назад +6

      yess i have this!

  • @docterfantazmo
    @docterfantazmo 4 месяца назад +878

    Christ, the third one just kept GOING. She's just pretty, dude, put ya brain back in the jar.

    • @osmacar5331
      @osmacar5331 4 месяца назад +9

      Yes Redditors should.

    • @spideygaming2001
      @spideygaming2001 3 месяца назад +11

      Nah ot was a fetish

    • @Spooqi
      @Spooqi 3 месяца назад +123

      "She was fat. And she was fat. She was also fat. By the way she was fat. She was fat too" OH MY GOD WE GET IT

    • @Emz_yelevele
      @Emz_yelevele 3 месяца назад

      It was fat fetish. The "wolfing down food" and gluttony parts were feederism 100%
      The fixation on her being fat is also part of it
      I'M SORRY Y'ALL, IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO WRITE A BEAUTIFUL BUT FAT WOMAN.. THE FAT WAS PART OF THE ATTRACTION.

    • @KooblyK
      @KooblyK 3 месяца назад +39

      It was translated from Japanese. They have very strict beauty standards there, so it wasn't a fetish, necessarily. More just pointing to a part of his society that doesn't really make much sense, and expressing his confusion over the disconnect between what he felt sometimes and what society tells him he's supposed to feel. Or not supposed to, in this case. It was also intentional by the authors part.

  • @drawingbluejay7938
    @drawingbluejay7938 4 месяца назад +783

    The first description made my jaw. Hit. The. Floor. What a gross way to talk about someone who's malnourished or going through an eating disorder.

    • @Lynnywhereuat007
      @Lynnywhereuat007 3 месяца назад +32

      It really is disgusting! You would think they have never been anywhere near a woman. Let alone have a wife.

    • @YetiCat28
      @YetiCat28 2 месяца назад +5

      It was the third one for me, jesus.

  • @The1ConsumerOfBees
    @The1ConsumerOfBees 4 месяца назад +357

    This is like medieval animal art made by people who have never seen the thing and had to go off vague descriptions, but for women

    • @osmacar5331
      @osmacar5331 4 месяца назад +8

      Yes Redditors.

    • @aeea3306
      @aeea3306 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@osmacar5331 how is that related to this in any way?

    • @osmacar5331
      @osmacar5331 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aeea3306 found the redditor offended by being called out XD

    • @greenapple9477
      @greenapple9477 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@osmacar5331No. They made a fair point. How is it related?

    • @osmacar5331
      @osmacar5331 3 месяца назад +1

      @@greenapple9477 and another one.

  • @akiakichan
    @akiakichan 4 месяца назад +1422

    I was actually in awe of how long the description of the chubby girl went on for 😭

    • @lillibrowning2082
      @lillibrowning2082 4 месяца назад +18

      ikr???

    • @Rachel-fi4sc
      @Rachel-fi4sc 4 месяца назад +119

      All without actually saying anything about her!

    • @Damian_is_Delusional
      @Damian_is_Delusional 4 месяца назад

      IKR??? IT JUST KEEPS GOING LIKE BESTIE. SHES FAT AND PRETTY WE GET IT. THE ONLY ONE THIS SHOCKS IS U APPRENTLY LOL

    • @RadiantSharaShaymin
      @RadiantSharaShaymin 4 месяца назад +78

      I was wondering 2 things while she was reading it:
      How long does this actually go?
      Are we going to learn *anything* about her, the center of our focus?
      Honestly I'm almost impressed by how far off track the narrator got. And I thought my train of thought didn't have a track to follow.

    • @SleepyHollowKnight
      @SleepyHollowKnight 4 месяца назад +3

      Is your pfp nagito?

  • @_thirtyseven
    @_thirtyseven 4 месяца назад +948

    As a man, I expected some of the things to be more mild, like “woman character behaves in a way that women don’t act irl” but I never expected a chest to be described as TWO PUPPIES DRAGGING LEASHES IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS 😣

    • @SteamWolf320
      @SteamWolf320 4 месяца назад +37

      Same lol I was definitely in for a surprise.

    • @narcosis1507
      @narcosis1507 4 месяца назад +21

      i think he was just trying to be creative with his description

    • @AUBREY-ml4ex
      @AUBREY-ml4ex 4 месяца назад +55

      ​@narcosis1507 Most likely but there's a difference between being creative and straight up being weird 😭

    • @Expiredmayonnaise-_-
      @Expiredmayonnaise-_- 4 месяца назад +13

      REAL JUST SAY BIG BREASTS😭😭😭😭

    • @sahaafa9082
      @sahaafa9082 4 месяца назад

      ​@@AUBREY-ml4ex я сомневаюсь в этом...

  • @wbwam7710
    @wbwam7710 4 месяца назад +493

    "big toe aristocratically shorter" is from the belief that having a second toe longer than the first is a sign of nobility

    • @EnRandomSten
      @EnRandomSten 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, we call it results of inbreeding lol

    • @mixdoesstuff1309
      @mixdoesstuff1309 3 месяца назад +35

      Damn guess I’m an aristocrat now

    • @kyupin1075
      @kyupin1075 3 месяца назад +30

      yeah that's what I thought but the text in passage literally says "shorter than the others" so I can see why that would be confusing lol

    • @Lynnywhereuat007
      @Lynnywhereuat007 3 месяца назад +41

      Just imagine if woman wrote men in the same way.
      “One of his testacles was fairly larger than the other. You could tell by looking at the bulge in his shorts that one was about to slip out.”

    • @wbwam7710
      @wbwam7710 3 месяца назад +8

      @Lynnywhereuat007 I don't think this particular thing is just for women. I'm a dude, but someone recently said I have "noble feet" because mine are like this.

  • @dustyrose6338
    @dustyrose6338 4 месяца назад +649

    3:46 I'm stunned.. how can someone speak french without elisions?? girl what?? Imagine being like "yeah she's not like other girls, she doesn't comply with the basic pronunciation rules of her own language"

    • @Organs-Schlorp
      @Organs-Schlorp 4 месяца назад +79

      I thought it was a misspelling of allusions that somehow made it past editing 😭

    • @Obsidian_Enigma
      @Obsidian_Enigma 4 месяца назад +12

      That’s what I was thinking!

    • @Nerdy__Doll
      @Nerdy__Doll 4 месяца назад +1

      RIGHT as a French I was so fucking confused when he mentioned how she spoke French clearly and elegantly with *NO ELISIONS* like ?? French with no elisions isn’t really French 💀💀💀

    • @willw6504
      @willw6504 4 месяца назад +56

      For those who don't know what elisions are, they're when you drop certain sounds while pronouncing a word. An english example would be saying "kinda" instead of "kind of" or "dunno" instead of don't know. Or even pronouncing camera as 'cam-ra'.
      French is MADE of elisions - most words have extra letters that you don't pronounce. If you are speaking french without elisions, you are speaking French incorrectly. What the author is (unintentionally) describing is a non-French person who learned French from a book and has never spoken to a native French speaker in their life.

    • @TikiShades
      @TikiShades 4 месяца назад +27

      It's just classism. Speaking English with "slang and elisions" is lower class-coded, in a very old-timey way, too. The writer just didn't know that doesn't translate to other languages.
      Further evidence to that is the "aristocratic big toe" where the second toe is longer. Entirely ridiculous standard that aristocracy used to make themselves feel better about themselves

  • @ThatGenkiGirl
    @ThatGenkiGirl 4 месяца назад +4871

    As a fat woman, I can confirm that I am the most confusing enigma on planet Earth.

    • @mikkogeneration
      @mikkogeneration 4 месяца назад +242

      As a chubby enby, I may have you beat for most confusing enigma. (this is a joke, sort of. I do confuse people. Especially because I use masc pronouns.)

    • @rindademon3339
      @rindademon3339 4 месяца назад +132

      ​@mikkogeneration as a chubby transmasc I am unsure where I fall on this scale of mystery! Tall dark and handsome, turns out there's short fat and thought-provoking.

    • @eisflamme2438
      @eisflamme2438 4 месяца назад +39

      i, skinny but ace am also very confusing to people 😆

    • @galaxyjam3742
      @galaxyjam3742 4 месяца назад +26

      @@rindademon3339 Short fat and though provoking is (one of) my type(s)

    • @Snek86
      @Snek86 4 месяца назад +21

      As a chubby transmasc agender, I am quite the enigma as well!

  • @space_kat1
    @space_kat1 4 месяца назад +102

    dude the beginning has me actually terrified wtf 😭😭 THAT GIRL NEEDS TO SEE A DOCTOR ASAP

  • @Taradoxxi
    @Taradoxxi 4 месяца назад +2657

    The first one is genuinely sending me into a homicidal rage

    • @luraymoondust
      @luraymoondust 4 месяца назад +31

      Same

    • @st4rdyy
      @st4rdyy 4 месяца назад +234

      Same, even worse they didn't care to mention about the facial features or personality, really says a lot.

    • @ki.44524
      @ki.44524 4 месяца назад +83

      same especially when ive been hospitalised for an ed

    • @mer_acle8101
      @mer_acle8101 4 месяца назад +32

      not just you babe, not just you

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 4 месяца назад +63

      As a straight aspiring author man some of them feel like something I question if the writer even had common sense and pass my female characters descriptions through my mom to see there is no objectification i didn’t notice

  • @teetheatersanonymous
    @teetheatersanonymous 4 месяца назад +1877

    Aside from misogyny, I think the other problem plaguing these writers is trying to be too creative/unique when describing conventionally attractive women, which is how we get horrifying stuff like the puppies and ballooned legs

    • @anessaleonard730
      @anessaleonard730 4 месяца назад +76

      At least it's not boring, gotta keep readers attention somehow.

    • @zoro115-s6b
      @zoro115-s6b 4 месяца назад +84

      Yea these mostly seem to happen when you get a cursed intersection of a burning need to make it clear to the audience how attractive this woman is and a terrible inability to write decent descriptive prose.

    • @SteamWolf320
      @SteamWolf320 4 месяца назад +35

      I try to describe my characters as parts of their appearance become relevant (like if a character messes with their hair or something). There’s no reason to describe every last single detail in a huge fancy paragraph.

    • @RadiantSharaShaymin
      @RadiantSharaShaymin 4 месяца назад +20

      I can understand wanting to be creative, but it's almost like a competition to see who can write the most disturbing and objectifying image.
      Like... if you know Pokemon's dex entries, it's kind of like that but with a much worse goal.

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley 4 месяца назад +7

      ​@@SteamWolf320That probably makes for a more immersive experience, too, as it fits the order you'd notice stuff in if you were actually standing there and looking at the person.

  • @roobe3501
    @roobe3501 4 месяца назад +985

    I’m a male writer, and I was worried at first going into this video that I had fallen into some of these “men writing women” stereotypes-
    But this is cartoonishly dumb

    • @lucaskincanyon7393
      @lucaskincanyon7393 4 месяца назад +52

      That’s what I’m saying lmfao same here.

    • @FezSaturn
      @FezSaturn 3 месяца назад +56

      Same. Stuff like this makes me kind of proud of my writing.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 3 месяца назад +10

      Yeah a lot of those spaces on Reddit is literally just women complaining about men being attracted to them at all

    • @roobe3501
      @roobe3501 3 месяца назад +78

      @@MALICEM12 I dunno man, the descriptions in these videos are pretty unsettling.

    • @Void_Out
      @Void_Out 3 месяца назад +5

      @@roobe3501 In this video and others, yeah, cause sometimes men do write stupid stuff.
      But the subreddit itself does seem to just hate men actually, whether the criticism is justified or not.

  • @TheOiIedOne
    @TheOiIedOne 4 месяца назад +1445

    How these men describe women is wild.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 4 месяца назад

      Nothing wrong with enjoying this video here but maybe a little action so the ''''situation''' becomes
      better would be neat to also do. So it's more than just conumption plus laughing at how crazy the world is.
      I mean, for example, theres a report-button and
      oversexualization-of-minors and lots
      of content that profits from it directly. You can literally search for 'Anime Teen boobs' and get results;
      ut hey, counterpoint to all i said: inaciton is the single most easiest to justify action

    • @ethanvol7440
      @ethanvol7440 4 месяца назад

      supposed to describe women these blokes straight up described their corn fetishes 😭

    • @jessy1982
      @jessy1982 4 месяца назад +55

      It's terrifying, its like we arent human.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 4 месяца назад

      @@jessy1982 You do nothing against sexism so what's your point?
      I'm embarassed about the Failiure of RUclips's report-system.
      Not sure that's unique to any Country but i have a habit of reporting Entertainment that entertains with teen-tits or any of the sort; animated or not; and it basically never works. Though thats probably a mater of 'lacking strength in numbers'
      If any Country at least had strict guidelines blatantly demanding 'No Fanservice shall use Minors in any Capacity'
      than maybe we wouldnt have trillions of results if you just search-up 'Anime Teen-Tits get fondled, hehe'.
      Say what you want about my success-rate BUT AT LEAST IM DOING SOMETHING.
      So i ask pointblank: Wanna help? Want me to tell you some channel oversexualizing the cr-p outta CHILDREN and TEENS so you can costtt-free report/flag them?

    • @AuroraBorealis249
      @AuroraBorealis249 4 месяца назад +25

      ​@@jessy1982 The amount if men that dehumanise women will truly terrify you

  • @ReichanK
    @ReichanK 4 месяца назад +385

    I can only imagine the first girl possibly somewhat realistically if she was someone who had breast enhancement surgery but starved, so now it's like those skeletons who still have their silicone implants still around after post-decomposition.

    • @gachaloseruser
      @gachaloseruser 4 месяца назад +51

      It was body horror, it could be!

  • @flyingcow8171
    @flyingcow8171 4 месяца назад +335

    As a guy who plans to write women characters I am very appreciative for these examples of what not to do

    • @lucaskincanyon7393
      @lucaskincanyon7393 4 месяца назад +5

      That’s what I’m saying lmfao.

    • @NSMP10
      @NSMP10 3 месяца назад +3

      Bro same

    • @astarinthesky15
      @astarinthesky15 3 месяца назад +4

      Hope you reach the success, mate🎉

    • @KooblyK
      @KooblyK 3 месяца назад +12

      I get what you're saying, and that's good you're going to be conscious of it. But also I mean... If you're planning to write any sort of fiction whatsoever, it would be weird if you weren't writing female characters? It doesn't have to be a Thing. You just...write regular people, you know?

    • @beepboop2803
      @beepboop2803 3 месяца назад +7

      ⁠​⁠@@KooblyK it’s not necessarily weird if he wrote yaoi smut… for example…

  • @michaelkindt3288
    @michaelkindt3288 4 месяца назад +2240

    "She could barely manage to lift her own body weight, not because her legs were weak, but because of her massive bazangas. They accounted for half her body weight."

    • @mikkogeneration
      @mikkogeneration 4 месяца назад +185

      It's like a female character pitch for a bad anime. I love anime, but why so much bazangas? And why so big?!

    • @michaelkindt3288
      @michaelkindt3288 4 месяца назад +42

      @@mikkogeneration-.-As someone who likes them, I wish I could explain it to you in A way that wouldn't make you uncomfortable.

    • @fettucinenoodles6391
      @fettucinenoodles6391 4 месяца назад +82

      ​​@mikkogeneration Animes tend to depend on fanservice a lot. It's hard finding a new one that doesn't have as much fanservice as they typically do.

    • @_inky_
      @_inky_ 4 месяца назад +22

      ​@@fettucinenoodles6391 and that's why I love gintama

    • @whitewall2253
      @whitewall2253 4 месяца назад +29

      ​@@fettucinenoodles6391 You fool, you've opened yourself up to anime recommendations.
      Watch delicious in dungeon BTW.

  • @spppppppy
    @spppppppy 4 месяца назад +2128

    10:41 "ive slept with fat women before" is giving "im not racist i have *insert race* friends"

    • @Ieatrocks3
      @Ieatrocks3 4 месяца назад +108

      the idea that “oh im okay with big women because i’ve slept with them before” it’s so weird

    • @Shotgunspixie
      @Shotgunspixie 3 месяца назад +4

      "I'm not sexist, I've slept with women before"

    • @spideygaming2001
      @spideygaming2001 3 месяца назад

      Nah, he has a fetish

    • @maradoupovec31
      @maradoupovec31 3 месяца назад +10

      Bro did not just compare RACE (something you are born with) to a BODY COMPOSITION (something you control) 😭😭😭

    • @OIeka
      @OIeka 3 месяца назад +14

      ^^ Dude stop yapping it’s a comparison not genocide so chill

  • @themintycafe5208
    @themintycafe5208 4 месяца назад +185

    15:05 Bro, the writer just gotta say "She got big boobs" and move on, like DAMN 😭

    • @charliekahn4205
      @charliekahn4205 3 месяца назад +6

      Typically I don't see size first. The first thing I'd see would be shape or effect on clothing. I would notice a big forehead before a big head in general. But maybe that's just me. So maybe the writers are trying to make the reader see shape before size in that way?

  • @Goldfish_Brain
    @Goldfish_Brain 4 месяца назад +602

    I’m convinced these men went on the sims and made their dream girls and then implemented them into writing because that’s the only way I can imagine these poor girls were created 😭

    • @lillibrowning2082
      @lillibrowning2082 4 месяца назад +46

      that's an amazing video concept, making r/menwritingwomen in sims

    • @Goldfish_Brain
      @Goldfish_Brain 4 месяца назад +23

      @@lillibrowning2082 if I make a video about it, I’d have to download even more mods bc the proportions exceed sims boundaries (which is how you know it’s crazy)

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@lillibrowning2082I need to watch videos of this, then actually making the Sims try have normal lives 💀

    • @victoriab7148
      @victoriab7148 4 месяца назад +8

      Sims doesn't even have the options for such weird proportions (without mods) 😂

  • @Midnightlunar10
    @Midnightlunar10 4 месяца назад +764

    That last girl was like something out of a harem because OH MY GOD

    • @Mossy_Rock1
      @Mossy_Rock1 4 месяца назад +82

      average Webtoon girl…

    • @phantomhive0521
      @phantomhive0521 4 месяца назад +20

      It made me think of elastic girl but with a bigger chest

  • @ChaoticPerson22
    @ChaoticPerson22 3 месяца назад +64

    I love how chill and quiet she is. She doesn’t make me jump out of chair like other RUclipsrs, screaming “HEY GUYS!!!” It’s just really calming no matter what she’s talking about.

  • @MargaretS-e1g
    @MargaretS-e1g 4 месяца назад +1025

    I feel like most of these are writers just trying to see how asinine their descriptions can get while staying publishable.

    • @ДаэтоОрех
      @ДаэтоОрех 4 месяца назад +27

      I'm sure that you can describe someone as looking like a chair with HUMONGOUS BAZOOKAS and still pass

    • @RadiantSharaShaymin
      @RadiantSharaShaymin 4 месяца назад +10

      I remember hearing that sometimes movies will put in really weird stuff just so that, when it's being checked for a rating, the parts they want to include don't look as bad. Then just cut out the comparison fodder if they can. (Don't know how true it is though.)
      That said, I'm going to tell myself that's what these people were doing. It's genuinely funny to me if that's the case.

    • @Dressup_Doll
      @Dressup_Doll 27 дней назад

      @@RadiantSharaShayminAllegedly, the ATLA team pitched some very adult outfits for “The Beach” so they could use the actual designs that are in the episode.

    • @RadiantSharaShaymin
      @RadiantSharaShaymin 26 дней назад

      @@Dressup_Doll I would NOT have wanted to be the one to design or pitch that. The Beach is the one with Zuko/Mai/Azula/Ty Lee, right? Aren't they under age?? I know I'm really bad at guessing age but it feels wrong regardless :(

  • @P1C0SL3FTF00T
    @P1C0SL3FTF00T 4 месяца назад +274

    The toes made me want to sob.
    AND THE FACT THAT THE ONE DUDE SPENT LIKE TWO PAGES YAPPING ABOUT FAT WOMEN?????

    • @ivanthaboi
      @ivanthaboi 3 месяца назад +13

      Bro just kept going like how tf does one find THAT many reasons to be confused about fat women?

    • @ReeseAugust
      @ReeseAugust 3 месяца назад +9

      The thing with that one is that it's almost too funny to even be offensive, like this man is just SO confused about the existence of fat women. Also the description of him imagining her eating habits was the funniest part like WHAT

  • @nattykat2736
    @nattykat2736 Месяц назад +9

    I both hated and loved the first drawing.
    Hated it because its horrifying to see myself in such a character, but loved it because of how you captured how horrifying it is to BE like that.
    Obviously i dont have massive "Desert melons" lmao, but I CAN see my own bones, I CAN count my ribs like the entrance states, I CAN see my tendions on my hands and ankles, my veins through my skin, my collarbones and shoulders sharp and defined.
    Its horrifying.
    You protrayed that perfectly in your piece.
    I think the only thing is that my face retained some of it babyfat, so the skeletal hollowed cheeks really gave me the chills.

  • @DewWithFloof
    @DewWithFloof 4 месяца назад +8111

    Sometimes i genuinely think men have never seen a female being

    • @BlitzsCyanide
      @BlitzsCyanide 4 месяца назад +637

      No cause how would someone with brittle bones walk around with such a chest??

    • @garbageenthusiasm4588
      @garbageenthusiasm4588 4 месяца назад +458

      Honestly I feel bad for these men. I can't even imagine the Lovecraftian beings they must be surrounded by

    • @alexisdied4558
      @alexisdied4558 4 месяца назад +203

      ​​@@BlitzsCyanide I have no clue I mean look at photos of anyone who's arorexic or just really really thin. Either there's absolutely nothing there or really really small
      Their back and entire body would break

    • @BlitzsCyanide
      @BlitzsCyanide 4 месяца назад +124

      @@alexisdied4558 plus the ankles!!! It's probably horrible to walk down stairs!

    • @79bigcat
      @79bigcat 4 месяца назад +145

      There's also a women writing men subreddit in the same vein as this. Not as big, but the descriptions are no less deranged. Sometimes the picture in your head doesn't translate to words easily.

  • @Customized_Kuromi
    @Customized_Kuromi 4 месяца назад +590

    "Why are we down there in the toe zone" is amazing.

  • @poseidons_child.
    @poseidons_child. 4 месяца назад +2304

    A great male writing woman correctly author is literally Rick Riordan. I love his representation with having queer, poc, straight, gay, fat, skinny, and like all his characters different ways. I was reading his one newer book Daughter of the Deep and the main character half way through the book the main character gets her period AND SHE ACTUALLY EGTS CRAMPS AND THEYRE ACTUALLY JUST LIKE MY BEST FRIENDS CRAMPS AND IT WAS SO COOL AND I GOT SO HAPPY SEEING REPRESENTATIONS

    • @ayyymacaroni
      @ayyymacaroni 4 месяца назад +381

      The way he, a (presumably) straight + cis guy wrote Alex Fierro was actually so cool. I love Rick so so much. If it turns out that there's a controversy with him I will be devastated.

    • @klutzykaya6439
      @klutzykaya6439 4 месяца назад +112

      ​@@ayyymacaroniYEAAAAAH ALEX FIERRO MENTIONED

    • @cabin7slytherpuffempath
      @cabin7slytherpuffempath 4 месяца назад +189

      Agreed, Uncle Rick may not always get it right (case in point, Piper) but it never feels like he isn't TRYING.

    • @user-zg1wm7fj9t
      @user-zg1wm7fj9t 4 месяца назад +44

      @@ayyymacaroni I'll upset you, but there was controversy around him

    • @klutzykaya6439
      @klutzykaya6439 4 месяца назад +33

      @@user-zg1wm7fj9t wait what'd he do 😭

  • @FruitOfTheFold
    @FruitOfTheFold 4 месяца назад +320

    i love this type of video, they always looks so goofy and the way they describe woman is so crazy sometimes 😭

    • @Birbzz
      @Birbzz 4 месяца назад

      offtopic but HOLLOW KNIGHT PFP. MASSIVE W

  • @terrastarr6850
    @terrastarr6850 4 месяца назад +26

    She's such a good artist, these whackass descriptions barely matter cause this video is full of great art anyway lol it's astonishing

  • @loonytredecim
    @loonytredecim 4 месяца назад +177

    12:09 The Idea that i can give guys an existential crisis just by existing makes me feel powerfull.

    • @Saga_Anserum
      @Saga_Anserum 4 месяца назад +13

      Confusion Aura (15 m radius): If a man is thinking absolutely wacky problematic thoughts about you, they take 5 Psychic Damage per second

    • @valentinmitterbauer4196
      @valentinmitterbauer4196 4 месяца назад +12

      Jokes on you, i already get an existental crisis just by existing myself.

    • @ivanthaboi
      @ivanthaboi 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@Saga_Anserum i see that it's the same kind of stand as star platinum

  • @SageIsADummy
    @SageIsADummy 4 месяца назад +860

    One the second one the “Stop staring at my boobs!!” Song kept replaying in my head. Specifically the “chest puppies” part 😭

    • @SageIsADummy
      @SageIsADummy 4 месяца назад +21

      *On

    • @Maxi-Gonz.
      @Maxi-Gonz. 4 месяца назад +25

      _“Oh, these…?”_

    • @dashfire3185
      @dashfire3185 4 месяца назад

      @Max Gon, are you being horny or is that a Telepurte reference?

    • @AdorableFennec
      @AdorableFennec 4 месяца назад +54

      The Shoulder Boulders animation meme song

    • @__Zeniii__
      @__Zeniii__ 4 месяца назад +9

      REAL

  • @Hooman_Existance
    @Hooman_Existance 6 дней назад +1

    As a male who does art and writing I try my hardest to put the utmost respect to my characters, female or otherwise. And your art style is beautiful, the energy it brings what with the coloring style, and the way the line art is done nearly gives chills.

  • @dillemaaaa23
    @dillemaaaa23 4 месяца назад +261

    5:23 Actually, it does happen sometimes, known as a 'greek foot', although usually it's only the second toe that's longer than the big one. I think that is why it was described as being aristocratic. Either way, great vid as always, Haley!

    • @clockworkpotato9892
      @clockworkpotato9892 4 месяца назад +20

      Looked it up, Wikipedia refered to it as "Morton's Toe."

    • @dillemaaaa23
      @dillemaaaa23 3 месяца назад

      @@clockworkpotato9892 Oh, sorry about my mistake then.

    • @clockworkpotato9892
      @clockworkpotato9892 3 месяца назад +1

      @@dillemaaaa23 not a mistake, just another name

    • @dillemaaaa23
      @dillemaaaa23 3 месяца назад

      @@clockworkpotato9892 ok then, thanks

  • @the-postal-dude
    @the-postal-dude 4 месяца назад +725

    i've heard that usually breasts are some of the last things to go when losing weight, but if your "ribs can be counted through your shirt" ... i highly doubt it'd survive unless you have implants

    • @gachaloseruser
      @gachaloseruser 4 месяца назад +56

      For me if it’s a tight shirt you can see my ribcage, but not count them. Thats anorexia. Or death. But it was a medical book

    • @harvygilligan863
      @harvygilligan863 4 месяца назад +82

      My weight naturally fluctuates a lot and the boobs are always the first to go. Every body is different, but ...yikes

    • @the-postal-dude
      @the-postal-dude 4 месяца назад +20

      @@harvygilligan863 i believe i heard it when looking up reference images for women with a large chest. as you said, every body's different, maybe that was an outlier. or vice versa.

    • @ki.44524
      @ki.44524 4 месяца назад

      if youre malnourished to the point of BONES like the first girl, there is no way any part of your figure will be full, it will be shrivelled and flat

    • @anessaleonard730
      @anessaleonard730 4 месяца назад +16

      I did have a friend who fit this description back in high school. Her home life wasn't great when it came to food. She had hips and breasts but was malnourished. This body type is out there, just depends on the home situation and I'm glad that she's healthier now and out of that home now.

  • @TheripistThatNeedsTherapy
    @TheripistThatNeedsTherapy 4 месяца назад +33

    When the guy says he imagines her wolfing down food has me anger, this is why I hate eating around people!!

  • @CapriciousCobra
    @CapriciousCobra 4 месяца назад +166

    With this first one, I could see that being a pretty good description of a specific plot point of body dysmorphia. She has starved herself and gotten implants to try to achieve this exaggerated standard of beauty. I don't know if that was intentional on the authors part, but they'd be a coward not to have that be the reason for such a character.

    • @gachaloseruser
      @gachaloseruser 4 месяца назад +35

      It was written by a doctor and for a medical horror book, so it probably was.

    • @pigpig9201
      @pigpig9201 4 месяца назад +6

      @@gachaloseruserno, it was written by a journalist and writer for a love story.

  • @janelle_is_pog
    @janelle_is_pog 4 месяца назад +471

    See ok, I think you should do a reverse concept of this video, drawing how women describe men in books, but you'll have to scavenge cuz idk how many women could describe men this crazy 💀😭

    • @poseidons_child.
      @poseidons_child. 4 месяца назад +71

      She do the characters from Be More Chill the book. Bro I’d don’t need to know Rich’s D size, Michae and Jeremy’s dandruff problems, Stephanie’s SH scars. Like girl wtf I was crying

    • @poseidons_child.
      @poseidons_child. 4 месяца назад +7

      Should do*

    • @The-Jettisoned
      @The-Jettisoned 4 месяца назад +25

      ​@poseidons_child. It was supposed to be a raw/raunchy book/play, it gives the characters dimension and shows mental health/ridiculous insecurities.

    • @noddle4649
      @noddle4649 4 месяца назад +49

      İ thought that too but it might def be harder to find because i feel like a lot of the women writing men stuff (i havent looked at the subreddit so this is just a general observation) tend to mess up their characters more than their looks (CoHo 💀) and even if physical descriptions are off i dont think itd be that far. But then again i didnt actually look at the subreddit so i might be wrong too

    • @the-postal-dude
      @the-postal-dude 4 месяца назад +5

      @@poseidons_child. i don't see what is wrong with the last two

  • @Ihate_Eels
    @Ihate_Eels 4 месяца назад +4305

    I dunno, the boob descriptions always just weird me out more than anything. "Breasted boobily" is something I thought i could go my whole life without hearing

    • @amethyst_cat9532
      @amethyst_cat9532 4 месяца назад +249

      Exactly! I have never seen these descriptions in any story where the woman's bust size is at all relevant. If you need to make your POV character seem horny or perverted, just mentioning them is enough, their exact shape and size doesn't matter

    • @neon_honkai
      @neon_honkai 4 месяца назад +111

      I physically cringed hearing that😭

    • @Thedaisyda1sy
      @Thedaisyda1sy 4 месяца назад

      Breasted boobily 😭😭😭

    • @venom_1072
      @venom_1072 4 месяца назад +1

      Like these descriptions most likely make it here because of the boob descriptions but it just feels so wrong that every single one of these describe the characters tits but won't talk about hair or eye color or their face it's weird and gross

    • @Rilesjean
      @Rilesjean 4 месяца назад +196

      Okay but "breasted boobily" is so funny?? I randomly say it for no reason sometimes

  • @dominiklehn2866
    @dominiklehn2866 3 месяца назад +11

    I dont understand why so many authors metion boobs at all. Like... unless theres something abnormal about them that draw the eye, The only point youre making is that your POV character is letting their gaze drift a little too sexually

  • @Tickle-Monster333
    @Tickle-Monster333 4 месяца назад +210

    It’s always a good day when LavenderTowne posts 😌

  • @justdort
    @justdort 4 месяца назад +187

    "Oh, and don't mind my tiny feet, it runs in the talkative family."
    This is like when guys think it's relatable to have absurd body mutations and are like 'That just makes her quirky and cute!'

  • @WickedQueenKenz6
    @WickedQueenKenz6 2 месяца назад +4

    I like how the "chubby" girl thing was basically "I like chunky women????? how is this possible??? shes not supposed to be pretty and chunky at the same time????"

  • @anonomooose
    @anonomooose 4 месяца назад +98

    The only thing these videos have taught me is that men don’t know boobs are mostly fat and they are smaller when you are slimmer or work out a lot

  • @bookaddict1838
    @bookaddict1838 4 месяца назад +84

    I feel so sorry for Jolanta. My god, the back pain that woman must endure… not to mention not being able to carry more than her own weight, which I imagine could be annoying if she ever tries to live a normal life.

    • @Dressup_Doll
      @Dressup_Doll 27 дней назад

      It’s a result of some twisted surgery. She can’t even walk normally in the books, and the POV character is apparently a creep.

  • @dirivaakku10
    @dirivaakku10 4 месяца назад +12

    omg I love the Law & Order sound effect with the book titles

  • @Sparkling34
    @Sparkling34 4 месяца назад +123

    you're v-tuber randomly appearing halfway through the video was jarring. I mean I'm not upset I love to see a reminder of how fun your ghost cow c
    v-tuber design is

    • @ahorseofcourse7283
      @ahorseofcourse7283 4 месяца назад

      Oh god, you mean that thing wasn't meant to be an example of the wacko proportions she's making fun of? Awwwwwwkwarrrrrrrd!

  • @allie_arts5672
    @allie_arts5672 4 месяца назад +162

    “Here’s Jolenta, she’s suffering” 😭😭😭😭

  • @Sizzlesubs
    @Sizzlesubs Месяц назад +11

    0:14 me listening to this “HELP HER!!!”

  • @niccalee
    @niccalee 4 месяца назад +67

    #3's pov character is having a mental breakdown.
    I think an internal dialog like this can be a great way to show how a character thinks and later character development though.

    • @niccalee
      @niccalee 4 месяца назад +11

      Also, the woman is so cute. I love her.

    • @Rosetintedwater
      @Rosetintedwater 4 месяца назад +9

      That makes sense actually, the way she was described didn't exactly seem similar to the others. It was more of the MC point of view. Maybe that's why.
      But the amount of young beautiful fat woman said in that segment alone is criminal.

  • @tielerfrisk
    @tielerfrisk 4 месяца назад +211

    The first one kinda scares me 😅

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug 4 месяца назад +14

      Remove the “kinda” and you’ve got my reaction.

    • @tielerfrisk
      @tielerfrisk 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Aaa-vp6ug fair enough

  • @kuno3336
    @kuno3336 3 месяца назад +9

    Sometimes I need a reminder that I'm a good writer. This video is that reminder, so thank you

    • @Dressup_Doll
      @Dressup_Doll 27 дней назад +1

      Same.
      One of my readers doesn’t always convince me.

  • @elise7650
    @elise7650 4 месяца назад +146

    the fat lady is so gorgeous you draw such beautiful people

    • @catalinaargyriou8603
      @catalinaargyriou8603 Месяц назад

      she kinda had no choice but to make her gorgeous, pov-dude can't shut up about how she's beautiful and fat at the same time

  • @NevaehEvol
    @NevaehEvol 4 месяца назад +16

    i cannot express how hype i am by the inclusion of your vtuber model!!!! you were a huge catalyst for me pushing myself to build my own model, rather than getting it commissioned ♡ i genuinely would not be where i am today without that inspiration

  • @dr.stronk9857
    @dr.stronk9857 Месяц назад +4

    “I didn’t know this was a beauty standard I’m supposed to be insecure about” is a hilarious quote

  • @deadlynightshade_art
    @deadlynightshade_art 4 месяца назад +64

    This is my favorite Lavendertowne series now 😂 it's perfect

  • @divalea
    @divalea 4 месяца назад +212

    Just at the first one, and I want to chancla all of these writers.
    The first book I encountered this in was COMA. COMA was a 1970s medical thriller WRITTEN BY A DOCTOR. The main character, a woman doctor, starts her day looking at herself in a mirror, naked, thinking about how she could’ve been a dancer, too.
    If you want some vintage stuff 7:50 , Robert Heinlein’s TIME ENOUGH FOR LOVE has awesome things like a woman who doesn’t get menstrual cramps (and is snotty about women who do), a woman who is “bald as a grape” (she shaves her parts), and on and on.

    • @saphirestorm7952
      @saphirestorm7952 4 месяца назад +7

      @@divalea In the second half that first one isn't unrealistic at all, I'm the exact same way (minus the being snotty towards people who do part)

    • @willowstarfruit12345
      @willowstarfruit12345 4 месяца назад +4

      no fucking way, the writer doesnt even know what cramps feel like

    • @Misted_Waffles_
      @Misted_Waffles_ 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@saphirestorm7952Ya me too, I rarely get cramps, when I do though feels like I'm being murdered three times over.

  • @chfgn
    @chfgn Месяц назад +2

    9:42 I hated every word of this and my life was markedly better before I heard it. I used to live in a world where it was possible that nobody had ever assembled these exact words in this exact order and now I know that can’t be true.

  • @glampixie
    @glampixie 4 месяца назад +307

    The fetishizing of anorexia is so dangerous.

    • @supermaximglitchy1
      @supermaximglitchy1 4 месяца назад +11

      Just wait until you hear that tuberculosis used to be fetishised too

    • @glampixie
      @glampixie 4 месяца назад +18

      @@supermaximglitchy1 I’m aware. That deathly thin coughing up blood thing was really a turn on or something.

    • @faultyparadise2493
      @faultyparadise2493 4 месяца назад +5

      Do you feel the same way with the fetishization of fat people as well?

    • @glampixie
      @glampixie 4 месяца назад +18

      @@faultyparadise2493 obvious troll is obvious

    • @glampixie
      @glampixie 4 месяца назад +7

      @@faultyparadise2493 obvious troll is obvious

  • @FrostedFlakes-oe4mn
    @FrostedFlakes-oe4mn 4 месяца назад +268

    The feet descriptions always scare me like why u lookn?????

    • @Imjustkendall
      @Imjustkendall 4 месяца назад +22

      Men REALLY want our big toes to be shorter than our other toes now???

    • @elise7650
      @elise7650 4 месяца назад +14

      fr, like, you gotta leave the toe zone

    • @sampie23
      @sampie23 4 месяца назад +16

      frr like why are you describing my toes with more detail than the actual plot???

    • @poseidons_child.
      @poseidons_child. 4 месяца назад +5

      IM TERRIFIED OF HAVING MY CHARACTERS RAW DOGGING IT BECAUSE OF PEOPEL LIKE THIS
      LIKE YOU THINK MY IC TAYLOR WILL SLEEP BAREFOOT!? THINK AGAIN

    • @MissMafi
      @MissMafi 4 месяца назад +8

      I don't think it's necessarily bad but it is kinda weird in wrong contexts, like if the characters just met and THIS is what they pay attention. But if they're in a beach wearing slippers is a good context to point out how the feet is

  • @plewis9
    @plewis9 16 часов назад +1

    But the “beautiful fat woman” is absolutely gorgeous
    You drew her amazingly

  • @wolfieolfie
    @wolfieolfie 4 месяца назад +175

    10:00 this whole passage just reminds me of homöphobes who say they can’t stop imagining gay people in the bedroom 😭😭

    • @B1aa06
      @B1aa06 Месяц назад

      “Man, stop being gay! It’s like so distracting… I can’t stop thinking about you ******* my **** and you ****** me and ******”
      Then we ask who’s gay

  • @ki.44524
    @ki.44524 4 месяца назад +38

    00:40 as someone who had an ED, yeah no they are NOT surviving

  • @randombrony5434
    @randombrony5434 4 месяца назад +11

    I didn't think writing could be this bad, I'm 2 entries in and shocked that anyone actually wrote this stuff, like 99% of these descriptions have nothing to do with the character development other than being thirsty af. The worst part of it all though... this is apparently episode 4. 💀

    • @Rosetintedwater
      @Rosetintedwater 4 месяца назад

      Apparently the 3rd one was to show how deranged the MC was, but did the author had to use beautiful young woman so much? I'm not giving out opinions but I heard authors ain't supposed to use words that much😭

    • @randombrony5434
      @randombrony5434 4 месяца назад

      @@Rosetintedwater I knooow the repeating of "young woman" felt icky as can be

  • @lordarthur2165
    @lordarthur2165 4 месяца назад +861

    The beautiful fat woman part is definitely interesting... I love when people assume someone is fat because they eat too much and not because their metabolism is slow.
    This one is difficult to know if the author was actually self aware and using this to criticise this type of men.

    • @Saga_Anserum
      @Saga_Anserum 4 месяца назад +196

      it's honestly wild how often people feel entitled to tell fat people to "put down the fork." my guy you literally know *nothing* about this person's habits, their medical history, their current situation, how much motivation they have to get through life, etc. etc. and you feel entitled to tell them that? how do people even have that much arrogance

    • @lordarthur2165
      @lordarthur2165 4 месяца назад +60

      @@Saga_Anserum agree, they act like they can tell what the person does by their appearance.

    • @WooffzTheCoon
      @WooffzTheCoon 4 месяца назад +71

      Or sometimes people are fat just because of the way their body distributes weight. Theres a lot of ways to be fat that don’t include overeating

    • @Sharkuterie327
      @Sharkuterie327 4 месяца назад +46

      The author is clearly intentional about the POV of a man who is objectifying an overweight woman and has a lot of insecurity around sexuality. Just because an author writes a problematic POV doesn’t mean they agree with it personally.

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 4 месяца назад +5

      Honestly that’s just seem like describing a dude that attracted to fat body shape but he gone a little too long of the description

  • @Corvustheguy
    @Corvustheguy 4 месяца назад +101

    This is the enrichment my enclosure needed

  • @Mystery_VA
    @Mystery_VA 4 месяца назад +17

    19:42 her poor back😭😭

  • @acelurre
    @acelurre 4 месяца назад +22

    If my family were not home, I would scream because WHAT ARE THESE- The visuals do not help my... what feeling is this? horror? Every time I look at the screen I throw my face into my elbow to avoid the destruction of my eyeballs. You're an amazing artist, but your interpretations scare me.

  • @luanita307
    @luanita307 4 месяца назад +24

    The "beautiful fat woman" is too beautiful, I can't- you didn't need to go that hard but you did I am over here going auuga

  • @fairastars
    @fairastars Месяц назад +1

    good lord, that last drawing actually made me a little sick TT good on the content warning because wow, I don't know what someone has to be thinking to picture any woman, or PERSON, existing like that- these authors need to step aside and observe the average woman like they're real because WHAT. half of these descriptions are a trip to the hospital and not realistic in any way whatsoever...

  • @Professionalnerd213
    @Professionalnerd213 4 месяца назад +21

    I love this series it’s so unhinged the way these descriptions are written🤣

  • @stuchly1
    @stuchly1 4 месяца назад +72

    "I've slept with women before" is the most incel thing to say. "Im not a virgin I swear!" 🙈🙈🙈

  • @Mina_Lover2222-zu9se
    @Mina_Lover2222-zu9se 4 месяца назад +14

    0:27 THE WAY THEY WERE LOOKING AT EACHOTHER..

  • @nasinnarcotics
    @nasinnarcotics 4 месяца назад +37

    Not to make this video about myself but a year ago I wouldn’t have been able to even listen to that first description without relapsing. Yay for my progress but fuck authors like that for perpetuating the issue

    • @poseidons_child.
      @poseidons_child. 4 месяца назад +14

      I’m so proud of you for growing and getting stronger!!!

    • @nasinnarcotics
      @nasinnarcotics 4 месяца назад +11

      @@poseidons_child.I appreciate it 🫂 I wish you the best on whatever journey you happen to be on

    • @vegetable_warmth
      @vegetable_warmth 4 месяца назад +14

      The personal input is extremely welcome as far as I'm concerned! My hope is that by talking about how utterly absurd various beauty standards are in an approachable way such as LavenderTowne often does, healing can be fostered for individuals and for society at large. LT and other youtube artists have been a hugely important part of my own journey, both when directly calling out creeps and bigots, and when just doing speed draws of characters with various body types without any commentary whatsoever
      I defs wanna celebrate the progress that you have made, and the progress that an ever-increasing number of us are pushing for across the board! :^D

  • @Ray-of-SunFox
    @Ray-of-SunFox 4 месяца назад +58

    My day has been saved! All hail Lavendertowne, queen of digital art and kitchen witches!!!

  • @writinggoose6059
    @writinggoose6059 4 месяца назад +4

    That first sounds intentionally horrifying. Like the description of a woman with bulimia who also underwent plastic surgery

  • @cruddyanimations1786
    @cruddyanimations1786 4 месяца назад +22

    For #3- How many times can a guy say the word "fat" in one passage??? Also the anorexia fetish in the first one is so weird, the idea of a person effectively wasting away but with a giant chest is wild.

  • @hihi-kv8kv
    @hihi-kv8kv 4 месяца назад +19

    The guy you drew in the background of the beautiful fat woman makes me cackle, thank you 😭

  • @A.Rgamez-u3w
    @A.Rgamez-u3w 4 месяца назад +3

    19:25 Thats what i like about angel dust fron hazbin is because he is basically what you describe of live for appearance

  • @boonAlina
    @boonAlina 4 месяца назад +56

    I feel like the only time it's valid for a description like this to exist is if the character is actually thirsting for the woman.
    So that we're like inside his head and seeing what he's attracted to about her physical appearance.

    • @LOVEKITTIES
      @LOVEKITTIES 3 месяца назад +2

      Exactly only in like a romantic novel.I seriously feel disgusted by how men have spoken about women in these books

    • @PinkaholicOfficial
      @PinkaholicOfficial 3 месяца назад +2

      Another context. I’m not a writer, but I am a game dev (who can’t code lol), and one character I have is originally shown in these ridiculous ways similar to the writers in this video, but then the story reveals that the character is basically mutilating her body in order to get people to like her out of parental neglect and the belief society subtly taught her that her value comes from her body. She feels she has to look good to please the freaks of the world or else nobody would like her. So she tries everything in her power to make herself look good instead of actually working on herself. The goal is to show both the detrimental effects of these ridiculous body standards, and also call out these ridiculous writers and any freaks who decide to play the game and end up thirsting over her, mocking these individuals for their absurdities.
      Did I cook or will people get mad at this

    • @boonAlina
      @boonAlina 3 месяца назад +2

      @@PinkaholicOfficial You gotta cook

    • @PinkaholicOfficial
      @PinkaholicOfficial 3 месяца назад +2

      @@boonAlina Aight

  • @ayayalgueewe9361
    @ayayalgueewe9361 4 месяца назад +65

    4:25 I think the comment about the toe being smaller than the others is referring to Morton's toe? In French we also call it "Greek feet" so I guess there might have something to do with being "aristocratic"
    Edit: Wikipedia tells me it was idealized during the Renaissance because of Greek sculptures. The more you know!

    • @quicksilveryt4000
      @quicksilveryt4000 4 месяца назад

      Isn't morton's toe just when the toe next to the big toe is slightly longer?

    • @ayayalgueewe9361
      @ayayalgueewe9361 4 месяца назад

      ​@@quicksilveryt4000 Yeah it is, but honestly I can't see what they are taking about if it's not that, maybe poor phrasing or something?

    • @quicksilveryt4000
      @quicksilveryt4000 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ayayalgueewe9361 The book says her big toe is shorter than ALL the rest, not just the one next to it, that makes it weird lol

  • @ASquared544
    @ASquared544 3 месяца назад +1

    The way you keep your voice so even while reading and describing these… horrendous descriptions is… impressive

  • @Bing525
    @Bing525 4 месяца назад +41

    Help I was in the middle of watching another “men writing women” video by lavender towne when this was posted 😩

  • @MiloMalk
    @MiloMalk 4 месяца назад +61

    The big thighs and small calves remind me of chicken legs lol

    • @poseidons_child.
      @poseidons_child. 4 месяца назад +2

      STOPPPPP

    • @outtapocketcriminal
      @outtapocketcriminal 4 месяца назад +3

      Finger lickin good

    • @EVELCATZ
      @EVELCATZ 4 месяца назад +3

      As someone with that leg type I can confirm I look like a chicken 😞😞😞

  • @b-jaguar6578
    @b-jaguar6578 Месяц назад +1

    This subreddit is filled with creeps, I hope no one takes this as most men being creeps, but the name practically implies it

  • @Louves192
    @Louves192 4 месяца назад +10

    15:53 sounds like Lipedema. It does look strange and makes it really difficult to find pants.