So 15 years ago you could NOT look at a nearly 10 year old CPU and say that should still be doable for modern gaming. What an age we live in. Perfectly happy to stick to 1080p or even 720p if needed and get super smooth modern games
And of that, like 90% of it isn't even necessary for graphics or mechanics because the shit barely looks different to then. That said eh it's debateable, because keep in mind 3770k was highest end, and the Pentium II would've been just released which could probably run its fair share of 2007 era games. Which even then, is still pretty much like basically saying it's amazing because you could run newish games on a 10 yo CPU...with a freaking modern day midrange GPU. Not even newish, I mean the most brand new 6700xt like no shit a few cherry picked titles work great. Now try running it off a aged like milk GTX 680, or even 780ti which came out a year before this CPU. To be fair, a 980 or RX 580 can manage even at 1080p if you turn a few things down. Now let's go back and use...integrated graphics to run those games lol because guess what, everything got eventually offloaded onto hardware buiilt into daughter boards like a second CPU almost, because basically our hardware limitations back then had more to do with the fact that even modern concepts of GPUs hadn't truly been invented yet and we still had companies like 3DFX and referred to them as "graphical accelerators" or hardware accelerators for beginning the offloading of instructions onto a completely separate piece of silicon. Prior to the late 90s it was strictly done on CPU, which is a main reason why so many modern machines have trouble running ancient shit and even then is pretty jank because of how the framerate and engine was basically tied directly to CPU, which fun fact the turbo button on old machines actually was to *slow down* your CPU to some locked speed iirc, because it ran like ass with "fast" speeds. We to still have this issue to this very day with different things from sound quality to sprite movement speed not being completely broken on modern machines from back then partially for this reason, which wasn't even that long ago we didn't have audio chipsets built into motherboard and northbridge was still on its separate, higher latency chipset. Will it become SoC's eventually? God I fucking hope not, because then welcome to trashing your whole system just to do some RAM upgrades or whatever else. But anyways yes it's no real wonder to me, and also because of the fact you can literally see the graphical difference between a 1997 game cutscene and a 2007 gameplay, which keep in mind full physics didn't even happen until the middle of that time period with VTMB and HL2's Source engine. So there's also that, and now go back and compare how games look and feel right now to 10 or even 15 years ago and realize other than character models' textures it doesn't seem so different. Not knocking all what you're saying, I like the 3770k, just giving reasons for it, which includes the inverse square law problem of hardware rendering at higher resolutions, which good luck with getting old stuff to run even at 1080p that was meant to run at 640x480 on CRT (as Jehova clearly intended). tl;dr doubling res=quadrupling needed graphical power, so a great deal is now just trying to run stuff at ultra high resolution, which also being fair, most of the early innovations were really finding a hack to deal with problems like that like antialiasing, which 8k would make totally obsolete even to use (and ironically, possibly making ultra settings at 8k not as bad a jump as 768p to 1440p because AA etc is still necessary). So I think a more fair comparison would be to use old Voodoo graphical accelerators vs a GPU from 2012 era like the GTX 780ti, or run games off the 3770k's integrated graphics vs integrated graphics now on a 5700g. Also I'd take that high res 75hz anyday over janky ass looking 768p again seriously how did my eyes even deal with that, or how could anyone deal with 720 but then again most of my genres like city sim and crpg don't benefit at all from 144hz but do benefit tremendously from high resolution. Funny, given that Pentium II's in 1997 ran basically a handful of pixels glued together as sprites.
My main rig has an i7-3770 with an RTX 3050 8GB and it runs Doom Eternal, No Mans Sky, MechWarrior 5, and Batman Arkham Knight nice and smooth without overclocking.
I have a 2600K and was so much better than my current "upgrade" to 3770K LOL I had my 2600K at 4.9ghz and I can't even make the I7 3770K stable at 4.5ghz unless on high voltage, but I'm waiting for a new cooler anyway, hope after it does at least 4.9ghz. Anyway it's very outdated, I have a similar GPU Strix RX580 8GB and it can't do what I want out of it anymore, at least at 4.4ghz it has lot of stuttering in many games I play, specially Hell Let Loose now has twice or more stuttering than on my old I7 2600K at 4.9ghz 🙁
This is actually a fantastic coincidence. I currently run a 3770k at 4.5 ghz with 32gigs of 2400mhz ram and an overclocked Vega 56. I was actually looking at a 6700xt as part of a final upgrade before putting my rig out to pasture and this gave me all the numbers I needed :)
My 3770k has been a beast for so long.. Until recently I felt it being subpar in recent games. Runs the os and stuff fine but it was a fun ride. Will probably turn it to my side pc to turn into the stream/work computer now.
Im using a i7 3770 with a GTX Zotac 1660 6gb and 16gb ram DDR3 and i can play every game i can throw at it so far. i haven't had a problem at all playing any latest games at all. Yes, i know eventually i need to upgrade, but so far i haven't ran into any issues so far.
@@banner7310 With the way most games are going these days why not? I’ll just keep playing the ones that I can and those are usually better. 8 years on my 3770k maybe it will last another 8 I hope haha
The ones I've been playing the most recently are Subnautica Below Zero and Euro Truck Simulator 2. There are entire genres of perfectly enjoyable games which are completely overlooked by most tech reviewers, they've never even tried them. No wonder so much focus, and resources, gets pushed into just one kind of game more or less (triple-A shooters - *yawn*). I've still not seen any modern such game which appealed as much as the original Crysis or Stalker/COP.
Thing is do you want to spend like 1000+ on an upgrade just to make your fps counter go up 50fps? I know its good, i myself have a mid/high tier pc that sits on 144h, but i could easily play with 3570k and gtx1070 and itd still push 100fps in warzone at a fraction of the cost. Pc upgrades are just addictive for sure
I remember my i5 4670 ran like a beast but started to 100% in quite a few games at 1440p so I had to get a new cpu. Im sure in two decades I will boot that back up and it will still run like a champ, such a good generation of cpu for intel.
One of Intel's heydays for sure, although... ...wasn't that also the littlebakeoven generation? Ivy and Sandy were both super power efficient but I thought 4k was hot like hellfire
I just booted back my ancient 3770k recently paired with a good ole refurbished 1080ti Its running great as my plex/jellyfin server and sometimes a retro emulator hardware It can still run AAA games in max 1080p but i rarely play these days I plan to buy spare motherboards/rams and even 3770k because they might not be available in the next few years Cheers fellow ivybridge
OH yes it CAN! mine used to push 5.02. it's still kicking in my daughter's PC (paired with my old 1070ti) and only goes to 4.2 now. and the IMC is incredibly shot so dual channel doesn't work anymore, but it's still awesome. 10 years next year!
@@anwarxv9279 poor optimization on the game dev's end is my guess. Likely just isn't fined tuned or something. Either that or there's something that OP isn't telling us
Still using mine to this day. Running CyberPunk 2077 @ 1080p and max'ed out graphics at more than 80~90 fps (with 32GB of DDR3 1866 and RTX 3060 12GB).
Do not forget freesync has frc (frame rate compensation) for anything below the freesync range where it will double the framerate of the display ie. you drop to 39 it will interpolate using frame insertion to 78 fps to smooth things out so, as long as you have adaptive sync of any sort, it is ok to drop below the range. Anything 30 or above I would say is fine as long as it is not a competitive title.
I have had and been really happy with my 3770k water cooled with 32gigs ddr3 and upgraded hdd to 1TB ssd and so on. I upgraded the graphics card a few years ago to the saphire 4800 nitro and it has been a great machine all these years. And it still runs like a rocket especially with the new ssd upgrade. Only recently I have let my wife have it as her 'upgrade' (she had my old core 2 quad with 8gigs ram etc.). A massive upgrade for her and she loves it and it still is fast but showing it's age just a little now on some games. Still good but I can see it on occasions and especially with Lightroom applications. What a great machine it has been that has lasted 7+ years. Now upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5900x 64gig ddr4 and 6700xt. Very happy with this upgrade too
I'm not a gamer, but I did a custom build with a 3770K (Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 mobo, twin Intel 120GB SSDs RAID0) about 12 years ago, and it's still my all-day every-day workhorse! No GPU even, still using the onboard HD4000 graphics. I bought a GPU (R9 270) but I never got around to installing it. LOL! Since then, I have upgraded the SSDs to WD Blue 500GB (RAID0 so reads as a single 1TB drive), I added a 1TB HDD for "offline" storage of old files, and a 2TB HDD for backups. Just in the last 6 months, I've been getting some spontaneous reboots mid-task (1 or 2 a month, no BSODs), so I think my PSU might be nearing end of life. I am self-employed, so reliability is mission-critical, and this beast has NEVER let me down. Not once in 12 years. Peaks at Windows 10, so I'm thinking about upgrading, but honestly it's hard to justify since it's still meeting my needs with room to spare. And, before you go there, I did not over-buy; I future bought. I stand by my investment 100%.
After following youtubers for 5 years now, and having my own experience of 15years related to PC hardware, I will tell you a little secret - ALL bigger techtubers have agenda of promoting NEW hardware because it's their bread which allows them to make new videos. I was following Linus, Paul, Jayztwocents, Tech deals and a couple of others until I noticed they TRASH older gen hardware. Like seriously, in REAL WORLD scenarios it's a few odd percentage difference between a i5-4690 vs i6-6600, or between FX-8350 vs i7-3770 etc. etc. but those guys make it sound outdated and make you feel miserable. Tech Deals is perfect example of a guy who actually did useful videos for us 90% ordinary earning people (studens, low to mid income etc.) until the channels hits 150k or so then they turn into corporate biatches.
And this guy acts like you just buy a cpu to upgrade from a 3770k is he living in fantasy land? You need ALL new MB, RAM, CPU etc. Not just a cpu. So its a bit more involved than just buying cpu and swapping it. 3770k have one with a 3060ti and it does fine in 2023 with 240hz Alienware (No gsync on, vsync OFF) no tearing and 60 fps is just fine.
Great video, miss my old 3770k @ 4.3ghz. A year ago I sold my i7 4790k and got a Ryzen 3600 (before the prices went stupid). I love it! My first AMD since the 965BE. Most games I play seem to have gained 10-20fps average, but my minimum fps took a HUGE jump! Absolutely insane how large. Fps just more consistent throughout games too. Now to one day score a used 5800x or 5900-5950 😅 Though I would gladly run this 3600 for years to come
Yeah, Skylake is still doing the business and then some. Running a 6700K @ 4.6GHz (will do 4.8GHz but I don't need it to be that fast). Not sure exactly how much longer she will suffice, but having FreeSync means I can expect a few more years before upgrading this CPU.
Nice mine doesn’t work on 4.6 lower then 1.35V but I have a noctua D15 on him so even in prime 95 and intel burn it doesn’t get hotter then 80 degrees Celsius ;) I have a Corsair D4000 airflow case
If more than 1.3v it gonna degred, two years ago i had 2600k at 1.4v 4.6ghz, everyone said it was a safe voltage and after a year the processor started to degre, which made the maximum of 4.4 at 1.35v… 4.6 was working on 1.43v…then i sold it and im on 3770k with safe voltage
I had this for years was well overdue an upgrade so I've done it. Got myself a 12600k oem for £200 the build altogether £1500. Light years better enjoying games inn high quality again
I had a similar experience. My 3770k was clocked at 4.6ghz with 2133mhz RAM. I had that until 2 years ago, and it was still doing the job in modern games. My performance was notably better than what he shows here at 4.3ghz with 1600 RAM.
I have a i7 3770 (non K) saving for a 5800X, for me the 3770 is just not a great CPU anymore for gaming at least, but had many a great gaming sessions in the past with it and looking forward to trying something new and updated now
I'm using an 3770 non K on a Z77 Motherboard at 4.3 GHz, in combination with a GTX 970. The System ist still running fine. I use it for older Games and mainly Minecraft with Mods. My newer Setup (B550 + R5 3600x + 2060S) is only for the actual Games.
i run a 3570k and until the games i play force me into low settings with below 60 fps im keeping it. this video just solidified it, 5 game average 81 vs 95 . 14fps for couple hundred in upgrades isnt worth it imho.
it's still a decent cpu if you pair it with for eg. rx 570 or 580, gtx 1660 super even. I've built a few pc's with a xeon equivalent (e3-1230v2, so a little lower clocked i7-3770 w/o iGPU) paired with rx 470/570's 4gb and it still kicked ass in most of the tasks i've thrown at em, sandy and ivy bridge are probably my favourite gens of intel, old but quick and troubleless enough that you don't waste a lot of time to troubleshoot cause you've needed balls to the wall OC to get a reasonable performance in games. LGA1155/1150 is a low-end king platform imo, am4 is at the good route to beat it though.
"if you dont have 48 fps freesync range that not might even be playable" dude i get 35-50 fps in cyberpunk with no vsync or freesync or whatever and its playable people play games at much below that.
Still rocking the i7 3770K and P8Z77-LX I got from my friend in 2017 and only been dabbling a little into overclocking now that Helldivers 2 had a big demand for CPU power. Hell it even got me considering upgrading and then to look in shock how much upgrading would cost as I'd be needing a new motherboard, faster RAM and likely a new cooler. Although if not for games I'll be looking at an upgrade at some nearby-ish point as I do want a VR ready setup and having switched to learning Unreal and planning to do some more high-poly modelling in the future I would actually benefit from an upgrade in more concrete ways. But the irony has been that there just haven't been that many games worth upgrading for. Either the games are just bland or plain bad and so often it feels like the extra horsepower is used primarily to compensate for poorly optimized software.
Still using a 3770K with a 5700XT. I can play everything, including VR. I will be upgrading this black friday, but honestly, it's not for gaming, it's more for being able to do more things at once, and the 3770K is starting to show it's age there.
If you're not complaining about hitching or stutters, then that's a solid endorsement as far as I'm concerned for ppl who want to continue using the CPU. Interesting work, thanks
I depends on your gpu but you'd be surprised. The channel Daniel Owen got a 6800xt a month or so ago and benchmarked a few different games on his older 9600K (upgraded to 5950x a few days ago) and while the cpu works ok in many games in some like BF2042 it was pegged and had more stutters and choppy performance than a 5950x. A frametime graph will show how smooth the playable experience really is. I think that if you get a nice new gpu and have an old cpu it may be playable and fps seem fine but you won't know how much it may be holding you back until you match the gpu with a more current cpu.
I have 3770K OC to 4.3Ghz+ and GTX1070 and still gaming hard, wont be upgrading any time soon when GPU's are 100% above MSRP. Thats 60%+ of cost of the complete PC build ($3300AU for a 3080TI) Time the whole community just didn't buy Nvidia or Radeon and let them hurt until the prices and performance gains are real. 8+ years on this rig, and my last was 12 years and it was only retired because of XP no longer supported. (Build it best/ build it once and time will be your friend)
I still run a 3770k @4.7 paired with a Vega 56 bios flashed to Vega 64 undervolted and overclocked running Linux. More than 10 years with that CPU and no issues. It's starting to show it's age so I'm about to get an i7 13700k with a sapphire toxic 6900xt. Gonna be one hell of an upgrade.
4790k here. It still plays all the games I like, therefore I'm happy keeping it. That being said, if I were playing newer games, it would be time to upgrade,... :( glhf asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedicatioin!!!
The reason why Skylake looks to be such a big jump from Haswell and older is because Skylake uses DDR4, while anything older from Intel uses DDR3. Faster memory helps especially in 1% and 0.1% lows and especially when CPU is a bottleneck.
I will probably keep using my i7 3770 until it starts feeling like a Core2 Duo E8500 today. Since all I do is video editing and play Minecraft, it is doing quite well. I think it will be quite a few more years, till it starts feeling like the E8500. Since the E8500 only has 2 cores, and the 3770 has 4.
Me who is still using this chip with a GTX 1080: Damn right it can. Although there is very visible stuttering in later Ubisoft titles like Far Cry 5 and AC Origins. I wouldn't even try to play their latest stuff before I upgrade the CPU, mobo, RAM
Don't get the wrong idea though Origins stutters like crazy with my Ryzen 1600, 2600x and 3700x too. (rx580, 5700xt) Ubisoft just likes to use old ass engines overloaded to the brim with huge worlds and new effects that result in bad performance
I was using a 3770k in a rig.... long service.... but the board broke around last summer. 4.3ghz?.... I wonder if the chip you got it degraded. Heck, on a z77 and p67 board I was able to run a vanilla 3770 to 4.1ghz all core w/ 4.3ghz single core boost. I've also had a 3770k that could do 4.6ghz at 1.31v and I found a used one that can do 4.7ghz at 1.3v. These run fine with 2400mhz RAM. In some games, it really helped to get the RAM clocks past 2133mhz. With the good overclocker, I had to delid it and replace the TIM with Conductonaut. At 4.8ghz and with the RAM at 2400mhz in XMP, the 3770k can nip at a stock 6700k in some games. I tried to test it with an RTX 3070, but that was a fail for the most part. I couldn't pick up a good framerate. These old quad-cores really suck with Ampere. It's not the Ivy Bridge uARCH because the RTX 3070 runs fine with an OC'ed Xeon E5-1680 v2 that I had in another rig.
I have this CPU with a GTX 1080 and have recently upgraded from 1080p to a 1440p Ultrawide, I was wondering if it would be worthwhile upgrading the GPU to the RX 6700 XT with this CPU or should I just start again new.
I know this is old. Lol. But I'm running an i7 2700k oc'd to 4.8 with a RX 6600xt. The only game that was close to the CPU being a bottleneck was bf5 multi at 1080p. So I raised the resolution to 1440p and it brought both CPU/GPU percentages to about 90 with about a 75fps average. 👍
Temps look good. So your 3770K will probably run ok at 4.6GHz. With some decent DDR3 (you can get top DDR3 2400CL11 16Gb kits for like 50 dollars or less) it will probably operate on par with the Core i3 10100. Which is... I don't know... pretty decent for a 9 year old CPU?
can you stream on twitch using OBS and Stream while playing games with this cpu at 720p 60fps with low settings? Obs n steam take up alot of CPU and was wondering your thoughts my motherboard can only handle a 3770k n wondering if i can get buy with it or will it bottleneck. i cant find any info of anyone streaming games on this cpu. if you can please reply give me some info or a test i would really appreciate it before i buy it
I'm still rocking the non-K version! (at 3.4Ghz, cooled by a NH-D15 with 32GB-1866-DDR3) My Asus Z77 Sabertooth allows a slight overclock to 4Ghz (3.7Ghz stable). My GTX1070FTW is pulling most of the weight at this point. I also think your recommendation is not on point for the target-group, at the time it was the highest tier CPU (except for the X-series), so recommending a 10300 is not what an enthusiast would want, but that' s just my 2ct's.
There's no point in buying top tier mainstream CPUs anymore for gaming. The 5600X is only 1% slower than the 5950X and the 10400 is withing 10% the 11900K. High core counts aren't necessary for gaming and that's all the higher tier CPUs really offer.
@@TheGoodOldGamer a very valid point and I agree. However I personally like a no-concession build (as far as my budget allows for it) that’s why i went with the 32gig in 2012. So much has changed since then. Nice to see these oldies in a benchmark though 🙂 … hard to imagine if I’d had a 10yr old CPU back at the time, I guess that would have been a AMD 1800xp for me at the time… it never made it to 2010.
@@adi6293 to be honest, the performance increase up until 9th gen really didn’t seem worth the investment to me. I did upgrade the GPU. Unfortunately i was stuck with DDR3, but to be honest, it’s not that bad/slow actually. Most games i play, hardly peg my CPU, to this day… but that is rapidly changing now. CPU manufacturers are innovating again, speeds and cores make a difference again, however the prices in the current climate is what’s stopping me from upgrading right now. 🤷🏼♂️
@@arimcbrown Intel's 12600 & 12400 "should" be interesting. The 12600 6+4C "could" match or beat the 5800X for $300ish and the 12400 leaks show it's basically a 5600X, but will be like $200ish. The IPC increase is what interests me the most especially for emulation that really needs all the single core it can get. Things are interesting, but in reality Amazon had the i7 10700K/F for $250 yesterday, and that thing is all anyone would need until 2030ish. We're just at the point of spending the absolute minimum to get maximum value.
An fun option would still be a 6c/12t (or higher) V3 Xeon build with TB unlock, but one would need a X99 platform to run and higher power Xeons do need the better brands mobo's that are still too pricy. But I do agree for a more future proof build a Zen2 or Intel 10th gen build would offer more quality.
Thats what I run. Xeon Hex core with 32 gig ECC. 3.7 base 4gz boost. 60GB/sec ram quad channel. They are graphic workstation MBs built for stability and ram bandwidth. But paired with a GTX 1080 it plays all the games at 60-90 fps 1080p@240hz. No compelling reason to update it even in 2022.
It's really amazing how much they still cost to me. There's I shit you not z77 boards out there still costing way more *used* on ebay than a modern midrange x570 board. I've seen $300, what was it, G.1 Sniper or something to that effect and some high end EATX Gigabyte board, UD6H, z77 UD7H something like that. So it's a real shame, which I think is due to crypto miners or maybe the old tariffs on China not sure, because it's pretty much pricing out these great older platforms to being basically just as costly if not moreso than the lowest end 10100 or bottom end Ryzen type stuff. Seeing all six DIMMs populated would be pretty slick in a classic car tier build though, I just haven't got the type of cash to spend whimsically on a computer collection like that (or time really). But man, someday, I'm gonna sit in my garage and just build old classic PCs using Haswells and stuff for fun. Would probably someday need a clean WIndows XP or win7 install on older hardware just to get the files to open and games to run too though
@@pandemicneetbux2110 As PT Barnum once said "There is a sucker born every minute" The z77 was good in its time and has aged so well because cpus have not gotten much faster they are just adding more cores and shrinking dies. Baby steps. Buying a old one at inflated prices? Just say NO, just fuel the creeps that rip people off.
@@Physics072 I mean it depends, mostly those guys are warehoused in China and unscrupulously selling these scam PCs to "gamers" i.e. defrauding the elderly buying their grandkids a prebuilt PC that turns out to have a i5 2400 at best and a GT 710 with cheap RGB strip plugged into a molex control box for $1k USD. The ones selling parts aren't much better sometimes sure, but just check the address they're not based in California or China (CA is a big red flag for Chinese sellers using DHL to fraudulently ship overseas via a US based shell company as "USA" it's not a US seller) and basically just unloading ewaste onto everybody, which is another reason I refuse to buy old boards from China. However, that stated they otherwise are often enough good people or techyescity types or just 30yo boomers parting out their old kit like a used GTX 970 here, R9 290 there, i7 3770 there, Z67 board here. So it pretty much becomes a basic math problem of "how much performance am I getting at this dollar value and am I squeezing by enough that it's cheaper than just getting a AMD 3100 or i3 10100" or whatever. In most cases though yes, from what I've seen I'd say that it's actually only cheaper to be getting parts as the whole package if you're building new, because I've seen Z77 boards complete with an included 3570k or 2700k or i7 3770 kitted out with 4x4 or 2x8gb DDR3 RAM socketed in the board being cheaper than just buying the parts individually, so I'd say it mostly makes sense if you are upgrading your own older PC or otherwise mostly have all the parts already and basically just need the extra EOL end CPU or added RAM or something, otherwise it may cost less and be less risky getting the lowest new parts. Also >you can upgrade too lastly I'll say that you can't, because if you are building a new PC with garbage parts like a $80 board you are not going to be able to upgrade much later anyway and it's basically already ewaste without the cachet of older high end. Those VRMs can't handle anything beyond other bottom end parts, so your PC is going to be perpetually worse than Dell if you do it that way. Just want to dispell the "you have an upgrade path" misinfo about building on bottom end parts vs old high end; either system is going to be as-is practically.
I have a amazing chip My i7 3770k is oc running on my EVGA Z77FTW at 4.9 GHz / running G skill memory oc 2800 GHz with EVGA RTX KINGPIN 3090TI and im getting 44 percent higher frame rates than you on same games same settings/// nice vid
POWER SUPPLY EVGA SUPERNOVA 2200 WATT P2 WITH EVGA CLC 280 LIO COOLER,,,, I WANTED TO 3 WAY SLI but dam EVGA the best videocard company stopped making them////
I am on a 3770k right now pushing a 5700xt just fine and running the games I play on a 32" 1440 monitor, games like the tomb raider trilogy, subnautica, and resident evil 2/3 and 4. The only thing pushing me to a new build is me, not frame rates. I bought mine used for $80 several years ago off ebay to swap out a 3570k. They are $60 now and still a good buy if one is on a 3rd gen platform with something that isn't a 3770k and needs to get a couple more years out of their machine.
I have an I5 3570K with an gtx 1050ti should I upgrade to I7 3770K? My motherboard can't do an better cpu und I can't get an better motherboard right now
Built a cheap build using the lga 1155 socket for around $150. Core i3 2120, Nvidia n580 GTX Lightning XE 3gb, 24 gb G Skill ddr3 2X4 2X8 1333, cheap PNY 128 gb ssd, 1 tp hdd, EVGA 600w 80 plus white, DIY Rainbow White RGB case. Was able to score the n580 Lightning XE for $60 and for anyone who knows older cards will know this was a deal and a half seeing as this card is super rare. Long story short there isn't much money invested upgrading to the base i7 3770 none K for about $70 isnt a bad deal in 2021 but i just can't recommend the K version because that price is just way ridicules. That being said if you are going to try and build a super budget build around the i7 3770 you might as well shoot for a cheap Am4 build instead and spend the extra $300 or so.
Yes im running a 3770k and 1660s oc and this setup can run Wow on ultra, which is all I want to do. Both the cpu and gpu were pushed to the edge when I played Hl: Alyx, but it was easily playable. :)
I'm literally running a i5-3330 its weaker than i7 3770k by a lot so even this old chip is still a massive upgrade for me and i just ordered the rx6600
i love my 3770k it plays no mans sky at 77fps i cant push it higher limitations of tv monitor it does me well i would love to upgrade it but i just can not afford to replace the board cpu and ram :(
I cant overclock my i7 3770k in UFEI BIOS, the options simply aren’t there, is it my motherboard and I’m basically just stuck on stock performance? Edit: I should note that I’ve looked at several (and I mean Several) RUclips tutorials and threads on how to overclock the i7 3770k but I just don’t get why some specific options just aren’t there for me
Running the 3770k at 4ghz bought it in 2012 :) still runs decent at 1080p with a MSI gtx 1080. Thinking about upgrading it to a 14700k tho. Mostly for the m2 and ddr5
i sold my 3770k 4 years ago because my z77 died out an it was the same price to sell my 3770k and 16gb ddr3 1866 and jump to ryzen 1600 +b350 +16gb ddr44 after i sold it and added what i had to pay to get a decent z77 or z68 mb second hand ...it ended up costing me the same ! But still happy to see that cpu running well for it's age ! ((z77 and z68 2nd hand market prices where insane a bit over their original retail price ))
That exactly what happens when you upgrade to more modern cpu. As long as the threads are the same you only get a small inc in frame rates. This is because the games these days are mostly gpu bound, esp on 1080p plus high settings. The gpu upgrade and Not the cpu upgrade is what will drive it. Once games will start t9 utilise 10+ cores these older cpus will run out of puff.
I still have one of these processors in one of my gaming computers! I was selling it, but wondering, just for the sake of my reputation, that I should just keep the bad ol' boy. It runs great, still, but I would hate for a customer of mine to have it, then go out 6 months later. Plus, I got a really cool case that has lights all over the place. Hmmm, I guess food for thought.
That was the problem with IB, Intel stopped using solder, so they couldn't oc as well as SB. Delidding can drop load temps by 30C or more. By contrast, pretty much all i7 2700Ks can do 5GHz, at which speed they're faster than the 3770K. The latter only wins when at stock settings. You should try a 2700K @ 5GHz (which one can do with just a simple TRUE and one fan, no need for any fancy cooling), it should beat the 3770K results. Funny how the typical notion of what "acceptable" play is has changed ever since the introduction of Freesync and Gsync. Looks like New Scientist was right, people who get used to these technologies, especially those who grow up with them, can't do without them. I'm old school, playing Crysis yesterday at 4K on a 1080 Ti seemed perfectly fine (43" TV), was quite surprised when Afterburner showed it was averaging often less than 30fps. :D Back in those days nobody much cared about screen tearing, it just wasn't a thing. GPU reviews focused a lot more on any new features but also on image quality, checking that new features were not being introduced at the expense of quality in order to obtain performance on the cheap (such tests are not done today).
I really don't even notice screen tearing much and my FreeSync is off afaik, which to be fair I often have vsync on just because idgaf about throttling a game to 75 or 60fps because most of my games are backlog and new sale pickups now so why would I run my graphics card into the ground trying to render a 2009 game at 300fps+ I think it has more to do with the idiocy of esports and Fortnite/PUBG kiddies going all "nah I only lost because I had 90 fps and he could shoot faster" like kiddo, you just suck. I may not play much per genre so it's not often affecting me, but I just don't see a huge difference between 60 and 75fps for example, and like you I played stuff where 30fps was "normal" so to me it's not even worth going for 144hz, in fact it took me awhile even to notice BF:GA was locked at 60fps by the engine cap, which apparently Unreal engine has a 60 frames cap by default the devs left on, and tbh I probably wouldn't even have noticed much if it weren't for Adrenalin giving me average fps when I close a game. Resolution, otoh, I notice f'ing immediately, and am now a res snob to the point where 1080p looks like complete ass and I won't be satisfied until all jaggies and aliasing disappears.
i recently upgraded from i7 3770k to ryzen 5 5600x. before i wipe my ssd and swap new stuff, i do benchmark for horizon zero dawn, heavenly benchmark, red redemption, few more AAA game and apex legends (because this is i play the most) and found out no fps improvement. i7 3770k is overclocked to 4.5ghz and ryzen 5 5600x use PBO2 max to 4.85ghz.. i wish i upgrade my gpu now rather than cpu 😅😅
@@SpeedRebirth both benchmark using rx580 8gb and run 3times per benchmark. gpu usage is above 95% on every benchmark, maybe because not every games use all those core. while i7 3770k oc use old overclock methods, all core 4.5ghz 2000mhz cl10 ram, while ryzen 5 5600x use PBO2 min range 3.9ghz to 4.85ghz with 3600mhz ram cl16
@@hebecookies Did you reinstall windows after the platform change? Not good to keep the old OS when changing basically all hardware. But if you did all benchmarking on Ultra then yeah, a 580 aint that fast
@@SpeedRebirth yup its clean install after i change to b550 mobo, ddr4 ram and ryzen cpu.. everything remain the same except cpu, ram, mobo and overclocking methods.. benchmark setting is the same too
This was a very informative video. I am currently running a i5 2320 and was needing an affordable upgrade and the 3770 k was the fastest processor for the lga 1155 socket that I could find. The 4 additional worker threads and 16 GB of additional ram on different mother board is what I need to run multiple virtual machines.
Good upgrade, i just picked one up for $50 usd. Just check the motherboard compatibility. The games will run fine, the 60 fps is a marketing rubish.. you dont need it for single player as long as your 1% lows and any stutter stays above 30 fps. I have been playing far cry 5 on the old machine at average 22fps (4k ultra) and its quiet payable (very surprised).
For those who are interested in cheap older Intel CPUs, you can get cheap Xeon 4/6/8/10/12/etc. core versions of Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, Broadwell (etc.) on Ali Express. Some can be overclocked, some cannot. Some can have all cores/threads unlocked to run at max turbo boost. Some cannot. But paired with a cheap X79/X99 motherboard, some cheap DDR3/DDR4 ECC memory, you can have a darn cheap gaming PC with parts that are readily available. RUclips is full of videos about these parts/builds.
i bought a k39 v2,searching for current gen vids but all of this combos are so overpriced imho except for 12100..but i think an i7 3770+h61 itx and 16gb ddr3 is already a price of one 12100..so im looking fwd to go the lastgen route for my work/leisure gaming sff pc..maybe i will slap in a 3050 or ARC gpu for fun sometime later
someone with a low end rig such as mine, this CPU would be perfect, and my Motherboard supports it, i'm still rocking an i5 2400, so this will be a decent upgrade for me.
I have a desktop running the non-K version of the 3770, and it's still fairly solid for almost everything. I've demoted it to my work-from-home PC, but with 16GB of RAM and an R9 290, it's still plenty for all but the very latest AAA games. Before it was my dedicated work PC, though, it handled modded Fallout 4, modded Skyrim, World of Warships and Warframe with aplomb.
How is the R9? I bought a Sapphire R9 270X 4GB a couple of years ago at a garage sale for $5 built a system for the living room with it and a R5 2600 I had.
@@TerraWare Well, the R9 290 uses the Hawaii PRO GPU, which is roughly on par with an RX 470/480 4GB. It runs a bit hot by modern standards, but does fine with decent airflow. On the other hand, your R9 270X uses the Curacao XT GPU, which was a variant of the Pitcairn XT GPU in the previous gen Radeon HD 7870. It was THE mid-range GPU to buy in 2013-2014. In modern terms, it's about on-par with a GTX 1050.
You're a little incorrect in the cost of the upgrades. Yeah, the i3 is about $100. And you need a motherboard to upgrade from that Ivy Bridge. Gonna need some DDR4 ram too.
Would have kinda nice to also see a stock/non overclocked comparison, i mean most people are probably not bothering and i suspect the actual gaming experience will be largely the same. (Lets not argue about why someone purchases a k version and not overclocking but that´s what some people ended up doing, also a non oc comparison would be more reflective with non k versions)
I have both the i7 3770k and non k, and it doesnt seem to have much of a difference in performance in a game like New World. But I did not test the avg fps. And also the ram speed is slower on the 3770k. So my test is not accurate. In Cinebench R23, my 3770k can get about 4,400. At 4.0ghz. And my 3770 get's about 3600. So there is a reasonable jump in performance between the 3770k and non k. At least in Cinebench R23.
I was running BF5 with a i7 2700k oc'd to 4.8 and a 6600xt. Averaged about 80 fps on 1080 with ultra settings. Cpu at 85% and gpu about 40%. BF5 is the only game so far that was bottlenecked by the i7 at 1080. So I bumped it up to 1440p ultra and now both percentages hover around 90% and I barely lost any fps. Then one day booted it up and it ran horrible. Ended up seeing that it started up without the oc. With the stock clock it was horrible. Cyberpunk is less CPU intensive than BF5 in my case. 1080p max setting, GPU is maxed and CPU is around 80%. So the i7 is still working pretty well. 👍
2133Mhz DDR3 for sandy or ivy bridge is not an unrealistic scenario? Most people who still uses these older systems and are stuck with 1600Mhz memory likely have overclocked these since there are such big gains to be made in modern games. I have one i7 3770 rig and one i7 2600K rig, both with 1600Mhz kits overclocked to 2133Mhz. It's probably hard to find kits that don't hit 2133Mhz with somewhat looser timings and slightly higher voltage. I think I never heard of a i7 3770k that doesn't at least hit 4.4Ghz. My guess is that the psu maybe is the cause? If it's not the heat? Ivy bridge is the first series on the ring bus arcitecture that came with crappy thermal paste between the chip and the IHS. So it was back then deliding became a thing I think.
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So 15 years ago you could NOT look at a nearly 10 year old CPU and say that should still be doable for modern gaming. What an age we live in. Perfectly happy to stick to 1080p or even 720p if needed and get super smooth modern games
And of that, like 90% of it isn't even necessary for graphics or mechanics because the shit barely looks different to then. That said
eh it's debateable, because keep in mind 3770k was highest end, and the Pentium II would've been just released which could probably run its fair share of 2007 era games. Which even then, is still pretty much like basically saying it's amazing because you could run newish games on a 10 yo CPU...with a freaking modern day midrange GPU. Not even newish, I mean the most brand new 6700xt like no shit a few cherry picked titles work great. Now try running it off a aged like milk GTX 680, or even 780ti which came out a year before this CPU. To be fair, a 980 or RX 580 can manage even at 1080p if you turn a few things down.
Now let's go back and use...integrated graphics to run those games lol because guess what, everything got eventually offloaded onto hardware buiilt into daughter boards like a second CPU almost, because basically our hardware limitations back then had more to do with the fact that even modern concepts of GPUs hadn't truly been invented yet and we still had companies like 3DFX and referred to them as "graphical accelerators" or hardware accelerators for beginning the offloading of instructions onto a completely separate piece of silicon.
Prior to the late 90s it was strictly done on CPU, which is a main reason why so many modern machines have trouble running ancient shit and even then is pretty jank because of how the framerate and engine was basically tied directly to CPU, which fun fact the turbo button on old machines actually was to *slow down* your CPU to some locked speed iirc, because it ran like ass with "fast" speeds. We to still have this issue to this very day with different things from sound quality to sprite movement speed not being completely broken on modern machines from back then partially for this reason, which wasn't even that long ago we didn't have audio chipsets built into motherboard and northbridge was still on its separate, higher latency chipset. Will it become SoC's eventually? God I fucking hope not, because then welcome to trashing your whole system just to do some RAM upgrades or whatever else.
But anyways yes it's no real wonder to me, and also because of the fact you can literally see the graphical difference between a 1997 game cutscene and a 2007 gameplay, which keep in mind full physics didn't even happen until the middle of that time period with VTMB and HL2's Source engine. So there's also that, and now go back and compare how games look and feel right now to 10 or even 15 years ago and realize other than character models' textures it doesn't seem so different.
Not knocking all what you're saying, I like the 3770k, just giving reasons for it, which includes the inverse square law problem of hardware rendering at higher resolutions, which good luck with getting old stuff to run even at 1080p that was meant to run at 640x480 on CRT (as Jehova clearly intended). tl;dr doubling res=quadrupling needed graphical power, so a great deal is now just trying to run stuff at ultra high resolution, which also being fair, most of the early innovations were really finding a hack to deal with problems like that like antialiasing, which 8k would make totally obsolete even to use (and ironically, possibly making ultra settings at 8k not as bad a jump as 768p to 1440p because AA etc is still necessary).
So I think a more fair comparison would be to use old Voodoo graphical accelerators vs a GPU from 2012 era like the GTX 780ti, or run games off the 3770k's integrated graphics vs integrated graphics now on a 5700g. Also I'd take that high res 75hz anyday over janky ass looking 768p again seriously how did my eyes even deal with that, or how could anyone deal with 720 but then again most of my genres like city sim and crpg don't benefit at all from 144hz but do benefit tremendously from high resolution. Funny, given that Pentium II's in 1997 ran basically a handful of pixels glued together as sprites.
I am rocking old hardware at 480p
My main rig has an i7-3770 with an RTX 3050 8GB and it runs Doom Eternal, No Mans Sky, MechWarrior 5, and Batman Arkham Knight nice and smooth without overclocking.
I have a regular 3770 on a 1060 6gb and it does everything I need it to do and more. I’m loving it.
same rig as mine
I have a 2600K and was so much better than my current "upgrade" to 3770K LOL
I had my 2600K at 4.9ghz and I can't even make the I7 3770K stable at 4.5ghz unless on high voltage, but I'm waiting for a new cooler anyway, hope after it does at least 4.9ghz.
Anyway it's very outdated, I have a similar GPU Strix RX580 8GB and it can't do what I want out of it anymore, at least at 4.4ghz it has lot of stuttering in many games I play, specially Hell Let Loose now has twice or more stuttering than on my old I7 2600K at 4.9ghz 🙁
Same as me lol
same bro an it works fine for my needs.
I7 3770 with 1650 super here, wondering if the CPU could take a 2060 o 3060 maybe 🤔
This is actually a fantastic coincidence. I currently run a 3770k at 4.5 ghz with 32gigs of 2400mhz ram and an overclocked Vega 56. I was actually looking at a 6700xt as part of a final upgrade before putting my rig out to pasture and this gave me all the numbers I needed :)
I rarely game anymore. But I enjoy watching cpu performance scaling on titles. I enjoy these videos. Hope to see you keep em coming.
My 3770k has been a beast for so long.. Until recently I felt it being subpar in recent games. Runs the os and stuff fine but it was a fun ride. Will probably turn it to my side pc to turn into the stream/work computer now.
Im using a i7 3770 with a GTX Zotac 1660 6gb and 16gb ram DDR3 and i can play every game i can throw at it so far. i haven't had a problem at all playing any latest games at all. Yes, i know eventually i need to upgrade, but so far i haven't ran into any issues so far.
i have a 3570k im thinking im going to pick up a 3770k and a 1660 super for a cheap upgrade
3770 still definitely usable
If u have one u can for sure get another 2 years, maybe 3 out of it. But for anyone getting a new build I wouldn't recommend it though.
@Banner damn it, I just built a new pc with this.
@@banner7310 With the way most games are going these days why not? I’ll just keep playing the ones that I can and those are usually better. 8 years on my 3770k maybe it will last another 8 I hope haha
Still going strong 💪@@banner7310
I use the Xeon equivalent, and I don't bother with AAA games anymore. Only the retro and indies are the ones I check out.
The ones I've been playing the most recently are Subnautica Below Zero and Euro Truck Simulator 2. There are entire genres of perfectly enjoyable games which are completely overlooked by most tech reviewers, they've never even tried them. No wonder so much focus, and resources, gets pushed into just one kind of game more or less (triple-A shooters - *yawn*). I've still not seen any modern such game which appealed as much as the original Crysis or Stalker/COP.
Stills plays star citizen but with significant dips here and there.
What is the cpu
@@gamingmeanslife1222 Intel Xeon E3-1280 V2
@@kagon01 same performance even with the i7 3770k overclocked?
I’m still rocking my 3770k for gaming in 2022. I really want to upgrade, but it still does a good job.
Thing is do you want to spend like 1000+ on an upgrade just to make your fps counter go up 50fps? I know its good, i myself have a mid/high tier pc that sits on 144h, but i could easily play with 3570k and gtx1070 and itd still push 100fps in warzone at a fraction of the cost. Pc upgrades are just addictive for sure
I remember my i5 4670 ran like a beast but started to 100% in quite a few games at 1440p so I had to get a new cpu. Im sure in two decades I will boot that back up and it will still run like a champ, such a good generation of cpu for intel.
One of Intel's heydays for sure, although...
...wasn't that also the littlebakeoven generation? Ivy and Sandy were both super power efficient but I thought 4k was hot like hellfire
I just booted back my ancient 3770k recently paired with a good ole refurbished 1080ti
Its running great as my plex/jellyfin server and sometimes a retro emulator hardware
It can still run AAA games in max 1080p but i rarely play these days
I plan to buy spare motherboards/rams and even 3770k because they might not be available in the next few years
Cheers fellow ivybridge
OH yes it CAN!
mine used to push 5.02. it's still kicking in my daughter's PC (paired with my old 1070ti) and only goes to 4.2 now. and the IMC is incredibly shot so dual channel doesn't work anymore, but it's still awesome. 10 years next year!
I have question sir, why watch dog struggled to maintain 60 fps dispit the i7 3770k usage was barely hitting 80%
@@anwarxv9279 poor optimization on the game dev's end is my guess. Likely just isn't fined tuned or something. Either that or there's something that OP isn't telling us
sabertooth z77 & 3770K on order now . sold my 2600k p8z68board got a little upgrade - works for games i play just fine
Still using mine to this day. Running CyberPunk 2077 @ 1080p and max'ed out graphics at more than 80~90 fps (with 32GB of DDR3 1866 and RTX 3060 12GB).
Yes it can! i'm still running mine at 4,5ghz and its holding up really well
I still have one of these running in 2023, and it's a great little living room PC gamer / media player.
I was using the 3770 until last year. It’s usual ok for single player games but you can run into issues on open world and multiplayer games.
Do not forget freesync has frc (frame rate compensation) for anything below the freesync range where it will double the framerate of the display ie. you drop to 39 it will interpolate using frame insertion to 78 fps to smooth things out so, as long as you have adaptive sync of any sort, it is ok to drop below the range. Anything 30 or above I would say is fine as long as it is not a competitive title.
I'm too fried to try and understand that.
My 3770 paired with a 1060 GTX plays Halo 5 just fine!
Not gonna lie, still a pretty decent CPU! Im ok with at least 45 fps tbh
I have had and been really happy with my 3770k water cooled with 32gigs ddr3 and upgraded hdd to 1TB ssd and so on. I upgraded the graphics card a few years ago to the saphire 4800 nitro and it has been a great machine all these years. And it still runs like a rocket especially with the new ssd upgrade. Only recently I have let my wife have it as her 'upgrade' (she had my old core 2 quad with 8gigs ram etc.). A massive upgrade for her and she loves it and it still is fast but showing it's age just a little now on some games. Still good but I can see it on occasions and especially with Lightroom applications. What a great machine it has been that has lasted 7+ years. Now upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5900x 64gig ddr4 and 6700xt. Very happy with this upgrade too
I'm not a gamer, but I did a custom build with a 3770K (Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 mobo, twin Intel 120GB SSDs RAID0) about 12 years ago, and it's still my all-day every-day workhorse! No GPU even, still using the onboard HD4000 graphics. I bought a GPU (R9 270) but I never got around to installing it. LOL! Since then, I have upgraded the SSDs to WD Blue 500GB (RAID0 so reads as a single 1TB drive), I added a 1TB HDD for "offline" storage of old files, and a 2TB HDD for backups. Just in the last 6 months, I've been getting some spontaneous reboots mid-task (1 or 2 a month, no BSODs), so I think my PSU might be nearing end of life. I am self-employed, so reliability is mission-critical, and this beast has NEVER let me down. Not once in 12 years. Peaks at Windows 10, so I'm thinking about upgrading, but honestly it's hard to justify since it's still meeting my needs with room to spare. And, before you go there, I did not over-buy; I future bought. I stand by my investment 100%.
Love this stuff.. thank you.
Still rocking a 3770k and GTX1060 on my office PC. esports, WoW classic run great still.
I really love this series to death i really do. Also seems to disagree and agree with tech deals at the same time lol
After following youtubers for 5 years now, and having my own experience of 15years related to PC hardware, I will tell you a little secret - ALL bigger techtubers have agenda of promoting NEW hardware because it's their bread which allows them to make new videos.
I was following Linus, Paul, Jayztwocents, Tech deals and a couple of others until I noticed they TRASH older gen hardware. Like seriously, in REAL WORLD scenarios it's a few odd percentage difference between a i5-4690 vs i6-6600, or between FX-8350 vs i7-3770 etc. etc. but those guys make it sound outdated and make you feel miserable.
Tech Deals is perfect example of a guy who actually did useful videos for us 90% ordinary earning people (studens, low to mid income etc.) until the channels hits 150k or so then they turn into corporate biatches.
Still have an i5-3570 in a tv media/streaming client pc, it still runs very good.
And this guy acts like you just buy a cpu to upgrade from a 3770k is he living in fantasy land? You need ALL new MB, RAM, CPU etc. Not just a cpu. So its a bit more involved than just buying cpu and swapping it.
3770k have one with a 3060ti and it does fine in 2023 with 240hz Alienware (No gsync on, vsync OFF) no tearing and 60 fps is just fine.
Great video, miss my old 3770k @ 4.3ghz. A year ago I sold my i7 4790k and got a Ryzen 3600 (before the prices went stupid). I love it! My first AMD since the 965BE. Most games I play seem to have gained 10-20fps average, but my minimum fps took a HUGE jump! Absolutely insane how large. Fps just more consistent throughout games too. Now to one day score a used 5800x or 5900-5950 😅 Though I would gladly run this 3600 for years to come
Yeah, Skylake is still doing the business and then some.
Running a 6700K @ 4.6GHz (will do 4.8GHz but I don't need it to be that fast).
Not sure exactly how much longer she will suffice, but having FreeSync means I can expect a few more years before upgrading this CPU.
4.3Ghz? then it needs a delid and new paste ;) mine does 4.6 Ghz on 1.35V easy
Great content thank you very much :)
love the 3770K its a real legend
Imo 1.35v is too high, my 3770k can do 4.6ghz at 1.3v but im holding him at 4.5GHz with 1.25v much safer
Nice mine doesn’t work on 4.6 lower then 1.35V but I have a noctua D15 on him so even in prime 95 and intel burn it doesn’t get hotter then 80 degrees Celsius ;) I have a Corsair D4000 airflow case
If more than 1.3v it gonna degred, two years ago i had 2600k at 1.4v 4.6ghz, everyone said it was a safe voltage and after a year the processor started to degre, which made the maximum of 4.4 at 1.35v… 4.6 was working on 1.43v…then i sold it and im on 3770k with safe voltage
Oke thank you for your knowledge ;) I’ll give it a test on a lower voltage
I have had these settings for about 7 years now on a asus z77 sabertooth
Im on sabertooth p67 :)
3570K carried me till Zen 2 launch, what a beast chip.
Same for me, i am now at a 3700x. My 3570k is still in use as a secondary pc, running @4.4 almost from day one.
I got gigabyte motherboard, i7 3770 and 16gb 1600 MHz of ram for almost $85
I had this for years was well overdue an upgrade so I've done it. Got myself a 12600k oem for £200 the build altogether £1500. Light years better enjoying games inn high quality again
When I was running my 3770K @4.6GHz with 2400MHz C10, it was doing quite bit better until BF5.
Thanks for sending it. It was just unstable at 4.4Ghz. Probably just getting old and tired like the rest of us ;)
@@TheGoodOldGamer I had 2. One was never oced but could not remember which.
@@TheGoodOldGamerMaybe you should've de-lidded it. It makes a huge difference for Ivy Bridge temps.
I had a similar experience. My 3770k was clocked at 4.6ghz with 2133mhz RAM. I had that until 2 years ago, and it was still doing the job in modern games. My performance was notably better than what he shows here at 4.3ghz with 1600 RAM.
@@hartsickdisciple yea, now I remember, I had to de-lid my other 3770k even with 240mm aio to get anything more than 1.25v
I have a i7 3770 (non K) saving for a 5800X, for me the 3770 is just not a great CPU anymore for gaming at least, but had many a great gaming sessions in the past with it and looking forward to trying something new and updated now
You can use it as x264 dedicated stream encoder or even just gameplay recorder
I'm using an 3770 non K on a Z77 Motherboard at 4.3 GHz, in combination with a GTX 970. The System ist still running fine. I use it for older Games and mainly Minecraft with Mods. My newer Setup (B550 + R5 3600x + 2060S) is only for the actual Games.
Nice series. My son still has the 4th gen Intel part.
i run a 3570k and until the games i play force me into low settings with below 60 fps im keeping it. this video just solidified it, 5 game average 81 vs 95 . 14fps for couple hundred in upgrades isnt worth it imho.
One of my rigs, an i7-920 clocked 4.0ghz with a rx570 4gb, still rockin.
it's still a decent cpu if you pair it with for eg. rx 570 or 580, gtx 1660 super even. I've built a few pc's with a xeon equivalent (e3-1230v2, so a little lower clocked i7-3770 w/o iGPU) paired with rx 470/570's 4gb and it still kicked ass in most of the tasks i've thrown at em, sandy and ivy bridge are probably my favourite gens of intel, old but quick and troubleless enough that you don't waste a lot of time to troubleshoot cause you've needed balls to the wall OC to get a reasonable performance in games. LGA1155/1150 is a low-end king platform imo, am4 is at the good route to beat it though.
i got an 3770k, after i delid it, it ran 20 degrees celsius lower.
So i put it to run at 5.0ghz and pair it with DDR3 2400mhz.
I'm using 3770k (stock) + 1080Ti. IMO it's preforming quite well ( e.g. Forza 5 - 1080p full details, limited to 75fps). Best regards!
"if you dont have 48 fps freesync range that not might even be playable" dude i get 35-50 fps in cyberpunk with no vsync or freesync or whatever and its playable people play games at much below that.
yeah when i heard that i was like wait wat? Couple of years ago i finished witcher 3 at 30-35fps with a controller, zero issues ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
granted i had 3700x and gtx 1070 and played at 4k, so it was silky smooth 30+fps but still...
Still rocking the i7 3770K and P8Z77-LX I got from my friend in 2017 and only been dabbling a little into overclocking now that Helldivers 2 had a big demand for CPU power.
Hell it even got me considering upgrading and then to look in shock how much upgrading would cost as I'd be needing a new motherboard, faster RAM and likely a new cooler.
Although if not for games I'll be looking at an upgrade at some nearby-ish point as I do want a VR ready setup and having switched to learning Unreal and planning to do some more high-poly modelling in the future I would actually benefit from an upgrade in more concrete ways.
But the irony has been that there just haven't been that many games worth upgrading for. Either the games are just bland or plain bad and so often it feels like the extra horsepower is used primarily to compensate for poorly optimized software.
Still using a 3770K with a 5700XT. I can play everything, including VR.
I will be upgrading this black friday, but honestly, it's not for gaming, it's more for being able to do more things at once, and the 3770K is starting to show it's age there.
If you're not complaining about hitching or stutters, then that's a solid endorsement as far as I'm concerned for ppl who want to continue using the CPU.
Interesting work, thanks
I depends on your gpu but you'd be surprised. The channel Daniel Owen got a 6800xt a month or so ago and benchmarked a few different games on his older 9600K (upgraded to 5950x a few days ago) and while the cpu works ok in many games in some like BF2042 it was pegged and had more stutters and choppy performance than a 5950x. A frametime graph will show how smooth the playable experience really is. I think that if you get a nice new gpu and have an old cpu it may be playable and fps seem fine but you won't know how much it may be holding you back until you match the gpu with a more current cpu.
I have 3770K OC to 4.3Ghz+ and GTX1070 and still gaming hard, wont be upgrading any time soon when GPU's are 100% above MSRP. Thats 60%+ of cost of the complete PC build ($3300AU for a 3080TI) Time the whole community just didn't buy Nvidia or Radeon and let them hurt until the prices and performance gains are real. 8+ years on this rig, and my last was 12 years and it was only retired because of XP no longer supported. (Build it best/ build it once and time will be your friend)
I still run a 3770k @4.7 paired with a Vega 56 bios flashed to Vega 64 undervolted and overclocked running Linux. More than 10 years with that CPU and no issues. It's starting to show it's age so I'm about to get an i7 13700k with a sapphire toxic 6900xt. Gonna be one hell of an upgrade.
You will feel that kind of upgrade in your bones!
4790k here. It still plays all the games I like, therefore I'm happy keeping it. That being said, if I were playing newer games, it would be time to upgrade,... :( glhf asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedicatioin!!!
The reason why Skylake looks to be such a big jump from Haswell and older is because Skylake uses DDR4, while anything older from Intel uses DDR3. Faster memory helps especially in 1% and 0.1% lows and especially when CPU is a bottleneck.
Chris. Have you thought about testing how old games run on modern hardware.
I will probably keep using my i7 3770 until it starts feeling like a Core2 Duo E8500 today. Since all I do is video editing and play Minecraft, it is doing quite well. I think it will be quite a few more years, till it starts feeling like the E8500. Since the E8500 only has 2 cores, and the 3770 has 4.
Me who is still using this chip with a GTX 1080: Damn right it can.
Although there is very visible stuttering in later Ubisoft titles like Far Cry 5 and AC Origins. I wouldn't even try to play their latest stuff before I upgrade the CPU, mobo, RAM
Don't get the wrong idea though
Origins stutters like crazy with my Ryzen 1600, 2600x and 3700x too. (rx580, 5700xt)
Ubisoft just likes to use old ass engines overloaded to the brim with huge worlds and new effects that result in bad performance
It ran fine on my 4790K@4.7Ghz with an EVGA GTX 1080 Classified @ 2100Mhz on a 1440p/144Hz monitor.
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you dont need to upgrade anything, just OC your cpu to 4.6 if you have a good mobo.
in most cases your gtx1080 will become a bottleneck
@@siriusargus6766 hmm I never had any stutter in Origins when I was using my 2700x with a gtx 1080 and 32gb ran
I7 3770k @4.5GHz in my PC dont need any upgrade
You damn right correct.
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I was using a 3770k in a rig.... long service.... but the board broke around last summer.
4.3ghz?.... I wonder if the chip you got it degraded. Heck, on a z77 and p67 board I was able to run a vanilla 3770 to 4.1ghz all core w/ 4.3ghz single core boost.
I've also had a 3770k that could do 4.6ghz at 1.31v and I found a used one that can do 4.7ghz at 1.3v. These run fine with 2400mhz RAM. In some games, it really helped to get the RAM clocks past 2133mhz.
With the good overclocker, I had to delid it and replace the TIM with Conductonaut. At 4.8ghz and with the RAM at 2400mhz in XMP, the 3770k can nip at a stock 6700k in some games. I tried to test it with an RTX 3070, but that was a fail for the most part. I couldn't pick up a good framerate. These old quad-cores really suck with Ampere. It's not the Ivy Bridge uARCH because the RTX 3070 runs fine with an OC'ed Xeon E5-1680 v2 that I had in another rig.
I have this CPU with a GTX 1080 and have recently upgraded from 1080p to a 1440p Ultrawide, I was wondering if it would be worthwhile upgrading the GPU to the RX 6700 XT with this CPU or should I just start again new.
If I was in your shoes, I'd wait a few months to see what the new Intel and Nvidia cards bring to the table.
I know this is old. Lol. But I'm running an i7 2700k oc'd to 4.8 with a RX 6600xt. The only game that was close to the CPU being a bottleneck was bf5 multi at 1080p. So I raised the resolution to 1440p and it brought both CPU/GPU percentages to about 90 with about a 75fps average. 👍
Temps look good. So your 3770K will probably run ok at 4.6GHz. With some decent DDR3 (you can get top DDR3 2400CL11 16Gb kits for like 50 dollars or less) it will probably operate on par with the Core i3 10100. Which is... I don't know... pretty decent for a 9 year old CPU?
can you stream on twitch using OBS and Stream while playing games with this cpu at 720p 60fps with low settings?
Obs n steam take up alot of CPU and was wondering your thoughts
my motherboard can only handle a 3770k n wondering if i can get buy with it or will it bottleneck. i cant find any info of anyone streaming games on this cpu.
if you can please reply give me some info or a test i would really appreciate it before i buy it
I'm still rocking the non-K version! (at 3.4Ghz, cooled by a NH-D15 with 32GB-1866-DDR3) My Asus Z77 Sabertooth allows a slight overclock to 4Ghz (3.7Ghz stable). My GTX1070FTW is pulling most of the weight at this point. I also think your recommendation is not on point for the target-group, at the time it was the highest tier CPU (except for the X-series), so recommending a 10300 is not what an enthusiast would want, but that' s just my 2ct's.
There's no point in buying top tier mainstream CPUs anymore for gaming. The 5600X is only 1% slower than the 5950X and the 10400 is withing 10% the 11900K. High core counts aren't necessary for gaming and that's all the higher tier CPUs really offer.
You are right but no enthusiast would actually keep their CPU for almost 10 years so maybe it was a 1 of for some people buying an i7 back then 😅
@@TheGoodOldGamer a very valid point and I agree. However I personally like a no-concession build (as far as my budget allows for it) that’s why i went with the 32gig in 2012. So much has changed since then. Nice to see these oldies in a benchmark though 🙂 … hard to imagine if I’d had a 10yr old CPU back at the time, I guess that would have been a AMD 1800xp for me at the time… it never made it to 2010.
@@adi6293 to be honest, the performance increase up until 9th gen really didn’t seem worth the investment to me. I did upgrade the GPU. Unfortunately i was stuck with DDR3, but to be honest, it’s not that bad/slow actually. Most games i play, hardly peg my CPU, to this day… but that is rapidly changing now. CPU manufacturers are innovating again, speeds and cores make a difference again, however the prices in the current climate is what’s stopping me from upgrading right now. 🤷🏼♂️
@@arimcbrown Intel's 12600 & 12400 "should" be interesting. The 12600 6+4C "could" match or beat the 5800X for $300ish and the 12400 leaks show it's basically a 5600X, but will be like $200ish. The IPC increase is what interests me the most especially for emulation that really needs all the single core it can get. Things are interesting, but in reality Amazon had the i7 10700K/F for $250 yesterday, and that thing is all anyone would need until 2030ish. We're just at the point of spending the absolute minimum to get maximum value.
I7 3770 pair with zotec mini 1060 6gb good enough?
Where to buy i7 3rd generation processor?
An fun option would still be a 6c/12t (or higher) V3 Xeon build with TB unlock, but one would need a X99 platform to run and higher power Xeons do need the better brands mobo's that are still too pricy.
But I do agree for a more future proof build a Zen2 or Intel 10th gen build would offer more quality.
Thats what I run. Xeon Hex core with 32 gig ECC. 3.7 base 4gz boost. 60GB/sec ram quad channel. They are graphic workstation MBs built for stability and ram bandwidth. But paired with a GTX 1080 it plays all the games at 60-90 fps 1080p@240hz. No compelling reason to update it even in 2022.
It's really amazing how much they still cost to me. There's I shit you not z77 boards out there still costing way more *used* on ebay than a modern midrange x570 board. I've seen $300, what was it, G.1 Sniper or something to that effect and some high end EATX Gigabyte board, UD6H, z77 UD7H something like that. So it's a real shame, which I think is due to crypto miners or maybe the old tariffs on China not sure, because it's pretty much pricing out these great older platforms to being basically just as costly if not moreso than the lowest end 10100 or bottom end Ryzen type stuff. Seeing all six DIMMs populated would be pretty slick in a classic car tier build though, I just haven't got the type of cash to spend whimsically on a computer collection like that (or time really). But man, someday, I'm gonna sit in my garage and just build old classic PCs using Haswells and stuff for fun. Would probably someday need a clean WIndows XP or win7 install on older hardware just to get the files to open and games to run too though
@@pandemicneetbux2110 As PT Barnum once said "There is a sucker born every minute" The z77 was good in its time and has aged so well because cpus have not gotten much faster they are just adding more cores and shrinking dies. Baby steps. Buying a old one at inflated prices? Just say NO, just fuel the creeps that rip people off.
@@Physics072 I mean it depends, mostly those guys are warehoused in China and unscrupulously selling these scam PCs to "gamers" i.e. defrauding the elderly buying their grandkids a prebuilt PC that turns out to have a i5 2400 at best and a GT 710 with cheap RGB strip plugged into a molex control box for $1k USD. The ones selling parts aren't much better sometimes sure, but just check the address they're not based in California or China (CA is a big red flag for Chinese sellers using DHL to fraudulently ship overseas via a US based shell company as "USA" it's not a US seller) and basically just unloading ewaste onto everybody, which is another reason I refuse to buy old boards from China.
However, that stated they otherwise are often enough good people or techyescity types or just 30yo boomers parting out their old kit like a used GTX 970 here, R9 290 there, i7 3770 there, Z67 board here. So it pretty much becomes a basic math problem of "how much performance am I getting at this dollar value and am I squeezing by enough that it's cheaper than just getting a AMD 3100 or i3 10100" or whatever.
In most cases though yes, from what I've seen I'd say that it's actually only cheaper to be getting parts as the whole package if you're building new, because I've seen Z77 boards complete with an included 3570k or 2700k or i7 3770 kitted out with 4x4 or 2x8gb DDR3 RAM socketed in the board being cheaper than just buying the parts individually, so I'd say it mostly makes sense if you are upgrading your own older PC or otherwise mostly have all the parts already and basically just need the extra EOL end CPU or added RAM or something, otherwise it may cost less and be less risky getting the lowest new parts.
Also
>you can upgrade too
lastly I'll say that you can't, because if you are building a new PC with garbage parts like a $80 board you are not going to be able to upgrade much later anyway and it's basically already ewaste without the cachet of older high end. Those VRMs can't handle anything beyond other bottom end parts, so your PC is going to be perpetually worse than Dell if you do it that way. Just want to dispell the "you have an upgrade path" misinfo about building on bottom end parts vs old high end; either system is going to be as-is practically.
did you turn off spectre and meltdown patches?
and here I thought mine was getting a little tight so I recently doubled it into a xeon e5-1680v2 :)
I have a amazing chip My i7 3770k is oc running on my EVGA Z77FTW at 4.9 GHz / running G skill memory oc 2800 GHz with EVGA RTX KINGPIN 3090TI and im getting 44 percent higher frame rates than you on same games same settings/// nice vid
POWER SUPPLY EVGA SUPERNOVA 2200 WATT P2 WITH EVGA CLC 280 LIO COOLER,,,, I WANTED TO 3 WAY SLI but dam EVGA the best videocard company stopped making them////
I am on a 3770k right now pushing a 5700xt just fine and running the games I play on a 32" 1440 monitor, games like the tomb raider trilogy, subnautica, and resident evil 2/3 and 4.
The only thing pushing me to a new build is me, not frame rates.
I bought mine used for $80 several years ago off ebay to swap out a 3570k. They are $60 now and still a good buy if one is on a 3rd gen platform with something that isn't a 3770k and needs to get a couple more years out of their machine.
I combine i7 3770k with mainboard h67 + vga gtx 1060 6gbd5 can get best perfomance ? Do need change mainboard b75 or z77 ? Tks for help
I have an I5 3570K with an gtx 1050ti should I upgrade to I7 3770K? My motherboard can't do an better cpu und I can't get an better motherboard right now
Built a cheap build using the lga 1155 socket for around $150. Core i3 2120, Nvidia n580 GTX Lightning XE 3gb, 24 gb G Skill ddr3 2X4 2X8 1333, cheap PNY 128 gb ssd, 1 tp hdd, EVGA 600w 80 plus white, DIY Rainbow White RGB case. Was able to score the n580 Lightning XE for $60 and for anyone who knows older cards will know this was a deal and a half seeing as this card is super rare. Long story short there isn't much money invested upgrading to the base i7 3770 none K for about $70 isnt a bad deal in 2021 but i just can't recommend the K version because that price is just way ridicules. That being said if you are going to try and build a super budget build around the i7 3770 you might as well shoot for a cheap Am4 build instead and spend the extra $300 or so.
Yes im running a 3770k and 1660s oc and this setup can run Wow on ultra, which is all I want to do. Both the cpu and gpu were pushed to the edge when I played Hl: Alyx, but it was easily playable. :)
Can Combine good suitable this cpu i7 3770 with vga gtx1060 6g ,bro? I using this combo. I want upgrade hight vga gtx1660super. Is it be bottle neck ?
@@jimmyteo88 prolly bottleneck yes, but it will run mostly fine though! :) notice that i had the K model as well.
I'm literally running a i5-3330 its weaker than i7 3770k by a lot so even this old chip is still a massive upgrade for me and i just ordered the rx6600
i love my 3770k it plays no mans sky at 77fps i cant push it higher limitations of tv monitor it does me well i would love to upgrade it but i just can not afford to replace the board cpu and ram :(
Same bruhh but i am happy with this 😊
hi if i have i5 3470 and upgrade to i7 3770k with my motherboard msi z77a-gd55 and oc this processor how much % efficenty i get ?
Hello! I have the same cpu, but it only shows 2 cores 4 threads
I cant overclock my i7 3770k in UFEI BIOS, the options simply aren’t there, is it my motherboard and I’m basically just stuck on stock performance?
Edit: I should note that I’ve looked at several (and I mean Several) RUclips tutorials and threads on how to overclock the i7 3770k but I just don’t get why some specific options just aren’t there for me
I have the same problem. Its bcs of your motherboard. try to get mobo with z68/z77 chip than u will be able to overclock your cpu.
@@Daro_D thanks, should I get a ddr4 compatible motherboard or do you think ddr5 would be worth it for future proofing purposes?
Running the 3770k at 4ghz bought it in 2012 :) still runs decent at 1080p with a MSI gtx 1080. Thinking about upgrading it to a 14700k tho. Mostly for the m2 and ddr5
Still running my i7-3770K, Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 (rev1.0), RTX 2070 OC, 32GB G-Skill 1600mhz, 1TB Crucial SSD, (x3) 1TB Mushkin RAW SSDs
mine didnt want to oc past 4.1 but after delidding and liquid metal now reaches 4.6
i sold my 3770k 4 years ago because my z77 died out an it was the same price to sell my 3770k and 16gb ddr3 1866 and jump to ryzen 1600 +b350 +16gb ddr44 after i sold it and added what i had to pay to get a decent z77 or z68 mb second hand ...it ended up costing me the same ! But still happy to see that cpu running well for it's age ! ((z77 and z68 2nd hand market prices where insane a bit over their original retail price ))
can i use g-sync with windows 7 ?
I have this processor and 8 gb ddr2, no gpu(my power source died and i my new one cant support it)...
Definitely still good, running god of war on it with a gtx 960.
Just replaced my 3770K which has been a good companion since 2012. Got the 11400F, so far so good but cant say lots of more FPS.
That exactly what happens when you upgrade to more modern cpu. As long as the threads are the same you only get a small inc in frame rates. This is because the games these days are mostly gpu bound, esp on 1080p plus high settings. The gpu upgrade and Not the cpu upgrade is what will drive it. Once games will start t9 utilise 10+ cores these older cpus will run out of puff.
@@downundergarage6968 thanks for clearing that up 😊 I do 2k gaming on a 2060 so my gpu is the bottleneck for sure.
Hey GOG can you make a future proof on budget built with I3 10100
I still have one of these processors in one of my gaming computers! I was selling it, but wondering, just for the sake of my reputation, that I should just keep the bad ol' boy. It runs great, still, but I would hate for a customer of mine to have it, then go out 6 months later. Plus, I got a really cool case that has lights all over the place. Hmmm, I guess food for thought.
Love this cpu
That was the problem with IB, Intel stopped using solder, so they couldn't oc as well as SB. Delidding can drop load temps by 30C or more. By contrast, pretty much all i7 2700Ks can do 5GHz, at which speed they're faster than the 3770K. The latter only wins when at stock settings. You should try a 2700K @ 5GHz (which one can do with just a simple TRUE and one fan, no need for any fancy cooling), it should beat the 3770K results.
Funny how the typical notion of what "acceptable" play is has changed ever since the introduction of Freesync and Gsync. Looks like New Scientist was right, people who get used to these technologies, especially those who grow up with them, can't do without them. I'm old school, playing Crysis yesterday at 4K on a 1080 Ti seemed perfectly fine (43" TV), was quite surprised when Afterburner showed it was averaging often less than 30fps. :D Back in those days nobody much cared about screen tearing, it just wasn't a thing. GPU reviews focused a lot more on any new features but also on image quality, checking that new features were not being introduced at the expense of quality in order to obtain performance on the cheap (such tests are not done today).
I really don't even notice screen tearing much and my FreeSync is off afaik, which to be fair I often have vsync on just because idgaf about throttling a game to 75 or 60fps because most of my games are backlog and new sale pickups now so why would I run my graphics card into the ground trying to render a 2009 game at 300fps+
I think it has more to do with the idiocy of esports and Fortnite/PUBG kiddies going all "nah I only lost because I had 90 fps and he could shoot faster" like kiddo, you just suck. I may not play much per genre so it's not often affecting me, but I just don't see a huge difference between 60 and 75fps for example, and like you I played stuff where 30fps was "normal" so to me it's not even worth going for 144hz, in fact it took me awhile even to notice BF:GA was locked at 60fps by the engine cap, which apparently Unreal engine has a 60 frames cap by default the devs left on, and tbh I probably wouldn't even have noticed much if it weren't for Adrenalin giving me average fps when I close a game.
Resolution, otoh, I notice f'ing immediately, and am now a res snob to the point where 1080p looks like complete ass and I won't be satisfied until all jaggies and aliasing disappears.
i recently upgraded from i7 3770k to ryzen 5 5600x. before i wipe my ssd and swap new stuff, i do benchmark for horizon zero dawn, heavenly benchmark, red redemption, few more AAA game and apex legends (because this is i play the most) and found out no fps improvement. i7 3770k is overclocked to 4.5ghz and ryzen 5 5600x use PBO2 max to 4.85ghz.. i wish i upgrade my gpu now rather than cpu 😅😅
That is not normal. You must have a very slow gpu to not see a performance difference.
5600x should boost fps by a lot
@@SpeedRebirth both benchmark using rx580 8gb and run 3times per benchmark. gpu usage is above 95% on every benchmark, maybe because not every games use all those core. while i7 3770k oc use old overclock methods, all core 4.5ghz 2000mhz cl10 ram, while ryzen 5 5600x use PBO2 min range 3.9ghz to 4.85ghz with 3600mhz ram cl16
@@hebecookies Did you reinstall windows after the platform change? Not good to keep the old OS when changing basically all hardware. But if you did all benchmarking on Ultra then yeah, a 580 aint that fast
@@SpeedRebirth yup its clean install after i change to b550 mobo, ddr4 ram and ryzen cpu.. everything remain the same except cpu, ram, mobo and overclocking methods.. benchmark setting is the same too
This was a very informative video. I am currently running a i5 2320 and was needing an affordable upgrade and the 3770 k was the fastest processor for the lga 1155 socket that I could find. The 4 additional worker threads and 16 GB of additional ram on different mother board is what I need to run multiple virtual machines.
indeed the i7 3770k was the last and fastest cpu for that socket and does well for most games but for newer games need an upgrade
Good upgrade, i just picked one up for $50 usd. Just check the motherboard compatibility. The games will run fine, the 60 fps is a marketing rubish.. you dont need it for single player as long as your 1% lows and any stutter stays above 30 fps. I have been playing far cry 5 on the old machine at average 22fps (4k ultra) and its quiet payable (very surprised).
For those who are interested in cheap older Intel CPUs, you can get cheap Xeon 4/6/8/10/12/etc. core versions of Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, Broadwell (etc.) on Ali Express.
Some can be overclocked, some cannot. Some can have all cores/threads unlocked to run at max turbo boost. Some cannot.
But paired with a cheap X79/X99 motherboard, some cheap DDR3/DDR4 ECC memory, you can have a darn cheap gaming PC with parts that are readily available.
RUclips is full of videos about these parts/builds.
do you still have that i7 3770k? cause in my country we dont have any and we cant buy online please if you got it send it to me shipping please
i bought a k39 v2,searching for current gen vids but all of this combos are so overpriced imho except for 12100..but i think an i7 3770+h61 itx and 16gb ddr3 is already a price of one 12100..so im looking fwd to go the lastgen route for my work/leisure gaming sff pc..maybe i will slap in a 3050 or ARC gpu for fun sometime later
Delidding that cpu will probably increase its overclock capability. On 3rd gen they screwed up the thermalpaste on the IHS.
someone with a low end rig such as mine, this CPU would be perfect, and my Motherboard supports it, i'm still rocking an i5 2400, so this will be a decent upgrade for me.
I have a desktop running the non-K version of the 3770, and it's still fairly solid for almost everything. I've demoted it to my work-from-home PC, but with 16GB of RAM and an R9 290, it's still plenty for all but the very latest AAA games. Before it was my dedicated work PC, though, it handled modded Fallout 4, modded Skyrim, World of Warships and Warframe with aplomb.
How is the R9? I bought a Sapphire R9 270X 4GB a couple of years ago at a garage sale for $5 built a system for the living room with it and a R5 2600 I had.
@@TerraWare Well, the R9 290 uses the Hawaii PRO GPU, which is roughly on par with an RX 470/480 4GB. It runs a bit hot by modern standards, but does fine with decent airflow.
On the other hand, your R9 270X uses the Curacao XT GPU, which was a variant of the Pitcairn XT GPU in the previous gen Radeon HD 7870. It was THE mid-range GPU to buy in 2013-2014. In modern terms, it's about on-par with a GTX 1050.
You're a little incorrect in the cost of the upgrades. Yeah, the i3 is about $100. And you need a motherboard to upgrade from that Ivy Bridge. Gonna need some DDR4 ram too.
Would have kinda nice to also see a stock/non overclocked comparison, i mean most people are probably not bothering and i suspect the actual gaming experience will be largely the same.
(Lets not argue about why someone purchases a k version and not overclocking but that´s what some people ended up doing, also a non oc comparison would be more reflective with non k versions)
I have both the i7 3770k and non k, and it doesnt seem to have much of a difference in performance in a game like New World. But I did not test the avg fps. And also the ram speed is slower on the 3770k. So my test is not accurate. In Cinebench R23, my 3770k can get about 4,400. At 4.0ghz. And my 3770 get's about 3600. So there is a reasonable jump in performance between the 3770k and non k. At least in Cinebench R23.
Also I should note, I am not held back by the gpu 90% of the time. I use a RTX 3060 with those computers.
I was running BF5 with a i7 2700k oc'd to 4.8 and a 6600xt. Averaged about 80 fps on 1080 with ultra settings. Cpu at 85% and gpu about 40%. BF5 is the only game so far that was bottlenecked by the i7 at 1080. So I bumped it up to 1440p ultra and now both percentages hover around 90% and I barely lost any fps. Then one day booted it up and it ran horrible. Ended up seeing that it started up without the oc. With the stock clock it was horrible. Cyberpunk is less CPU intensive than BF5 in my case. 1080p max setting, GPU is maxed and CPU is around 80%. So the i7 is still working pretty well. 👍
2133Mhz DDR3 for sandy or ivy bridge is not an unrealistic scenario? Most people who still uses these older systems and are stuck with 1600Mhz memory likely have overclocked these since there are such big gains to be made in modern games. I have one i7 3770 rig and one i7 2600K rig, both with 1600Mhz kits overclocked to 2133Mhz. It's probably hard to find kits that don't hit 2133Mhz with somewhat looser timings and slightly higher voltage. I think I never heard of a i7 3770k that doesn't at least hit 4.4Ghz. My guess is that the psu maybe is the cause? If it's not the heat? Ivy bridge is the first series on the ring bus arcitecture that came with crappy thermal paste between the chip and the IHS. So it was back then deliding became a thing I think.
Maybe do a 4th gen comp on the similar platform and show scalling between 2,3 and 4th gens. I bet frame rates will be very similar.
The i7 3700 is bottlenecking the GPU. Also you have an PCIE 3 CPU and a PCIE 4 GPU. You are leaving a lot of performance on the table.