CPU Showdown Part 1! Will a 1st Gen Core i5 or i7 Bottleneck a GTX 1070?
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025
- Today we test a 1st Generation Core i7 and Core i5 against the mighty GTX 1070. For control testing we also use the GTX 970 and GTX 670 to see at what point these older CPUs become a serious bottleneck.
Skip to Benchmarks:
Witcher 3 Benchmarks 14:30
Crysis 3 11:11
DOOM 2016 13:58
Rise of the Tomb Raider 18:19
System Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7 875K @ 4Ghz/3.5Ghz with HT on/off (Core i5 Emulation)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Motherboard: ASUS P55 P7P55D-E LX Socket 1156
RAM: KLEVV 2x 4GB DDR3 2133 CAS 10 @ 1600Mhz
PSU: Thermaltake TR2 600W
HDD: PNY CS1311 240GB SATA 3 SSD
Video Cards:
EVGA GTX 670 FTW (Stock OC)
ASUS GTX 970 Strix (Stock OC)
ASUS GTX 1070 Strix (Stock OC)
Games Tested:
DOOM 2016 (Open GL 1080P)
Crysis 3 (DX11 1080P)
Witcher 3 (DX11 1080P)
Rise of the Tomb Raider (DX12 1080P)
tbh I think you would be better testing the 2500k - 3570k as that's the generation most people are still on, and they are a popular choice for secondhand builds due to good overclocking basically been guaranteed on both the 2500k and 3570k
+Etheoma That's the next video ;)
Using a 2600 non k here.
I look forward to it. I looked at Tom's Hardware's CPU hierarchy and noticed that the cpu you were testing was 3 tiers down. Informative results nonetheless for those owning 1st gen core intel cpus.
My i5 2500k was holding my sli 980's @ 1440p 144hz. My i7 6700k is getting so much more fps.
my 3570k @ 4.0 GHz is bottlenecking my 1070, really badly
I still have my i7 920 paired with my gtx980ti and still running games over 60fps ultra settings 1440p so no bottleneck here with a 1st gen i7
yeah no cpu upgrade needed since the resolution fully utilize the gpu
I guarantee you if you were to switch that i7 920 out for something newer, you would get more FPS. Meaning your cpu is holding back the true performance of your 980ti. Just because it games over 60fps doesn't mean there is no bottleneck.
+SoIoCreep i already switched to a 6700k and i don't notice a single fps difference meaning the 920 doesn't bottleneck the TI at all. Btw my 920 was clocked at 4.4
You had a massive overclock on that i7 920 bro! Jesus I'd feel sad retiring that beast!
Well it had a good run. one of the best cpu's ever made in my eyes
The reason you clicked this video starts at 14:00 this guy talks about a bunch of bullshit before that
First of all
I want thank you very much and your big effort is much much appreciated
I Have that Old beast i7 875k @ 4.0 Ghz and i can always count on it until I recently Upgraded form a GTX 970 to GTX 1070 and yes I have 144hz gaming monitor and im happy with this upgrade with some games and not with some other
i use my i7 860 with gtx 1060 by msi. no problems
overclocked?
why are you only getting 111fps in doom? I am getting 180 - 200 fps with my core I5 760 @ 3.5GHz , 16gb ddr3 1866 ram and a GTX980. Yes I agree my CPU is bottlenecking my GPU. My CPU is getting really hot and used a whole lot more since I changed from a GTX680 to a GTX980 two and a half months ago. I'm going to upgrade as soon as possible though. My CPU is old now and my Corsair H50 can no longer cool my CPU properly anymore.
Your not getting 200fps with 980 on ultra in doom, that is not possible.
+Viktor Mctittyswag Yes I am. I have everything set to their highest settings
200 fps is possible but he is propably playing in an other resolution.
+mcm Levi I'm playing at 1080p.
then this video is most likey 1440p (well the games) that would explain the difference
So I currently have a GTX 750ti and an AMD FX 8320 with a 1080p 144hz monitor. I bought the cpu+gpu as part of my budget entry-level PC build. I now have enough money to upgrade the GPU to the new GTX 1070 knowing that I will experience a decent amount of bottle-necking until I convince my wife to let me spend another couple hundred dollars to balance it out. My question is, what is the cheapest CPU that I can buy that won't cause a noticeable bottleneck (no fps counter, just purely feel). I'm a long time console gamer who can live with a minimum of 60fps but one of the major titles I play is Arma 3 and I know that my gpu upgrade won't solve the fps problem I'm having there.
Any help would be appreciated!
+ShardEye honestly don't get the 1070 if 60 FPS works for you. I'd get an RX 480 or if and I stress the word "if" the GTX 1060 launches at $250 that'd be a viable option too (don't spend $280-300 on the damn thing.) minimum cpu I'd recommend is what I have the 4690k. If you want something that'll last a few years get an i7 though. Since used 4790ks aren't much cheaper the 6700k is your best bet. As the benchmarks showed even crysis 3 benefits from an 8 thread cpu and that's a 2013 title.
Well what I meant by saying I could live with 60fps I mean I would really love to be able to get anywhere near the full 144fps that my monitor allows but I recognize that it would come with quite a price tag so for now I would be willing to settle. Still, I consider the 1070 to be a bit of an investment towards bringing my build more up to speed. I'd rather get the 1070 now and upgrade my cpu when I can spare the cash than split the difference and end up needing to upgrade both soon after. Thanks for the super quick reply though!
Please dont tell me you need permission to spend your own money.
Icureditwithmybrain I don't need permission, I just need to be able to justify it to her so I can keep getting some lol
ShardEye She punishes you for upgrading your pc..... Dang bro thats messed up.
Tbh, unless you're aiming for the highest fps, you're perfectly fine pairing an i7 920 with a 1070. As long as I'm getting 60fps, I don't care since my monitor is 60hz. I'm also on a 2560x1080 resolution, so the gpu is put to work more than at 1080p.
amazing video, very helpful. as an i5 2500k user im sooo looking forward to the next video! thanks for making these videos, we all really appreciate what you do
does that processor still run modern games?
if overclocked then yea it's still pretty good. mine is not overclocked so sometimes it struggles a bit but it works fine in pair with my gtx 960
been thinking about upgrading to the x99 extreme board along with a 5960k or 6700k to go along with a fresh 1080. hope all is well there. I have a i72600 an old Asus mobo and a 980ti. seems to run everything decent at 2500x1400 res but it seems like it's stressing my parts
The i7 6700k is a skylake processor. If I am right, you can not pair it with an x99 motherboard. The supported motherboards are in socket LGA 1151. So you have to buy a z170 motherboard.
awesome video, thanks for all the hours you put in for this. this is a great guide
Even 6 years AFTER this video im still using this lynnfield platform, after testing i found out xeons are better and way cheaper than i7-870/i7-875k processors (which are same chips but better binning). Problem you mentioned was the poor dram overclocking performance, that was solved with xeons like x3470. These have way better memory controller and i can run them even at 2400mhz 16 gigabytes stable with CL10-11-10-30 timings. Also these xeons seem to overclock higher, around 4.2ghz at 1.4 volts. If anyone has P55 or H55 motherboard laying around cheapest option is to get x3440 which goes for around 15usd / euro. You can even get Motherboard+ddr3 ram+cpu for 50usd and play whatever fps on low competitive settings at 144fps, which is an insane deal.
Good work again guys!
Why on earth are you testing these only using 1080p and not 1440p?
Nice and honest video bro. It deserves more.
How do you think this factors in with newer APIs like Vulkan and DX12 that are designed to reduce cpu overhead and fully utilize gpu power? Are we going to trend towards beefier CPUs with more cores or do you think we'll start seeing CPU power becoming less and less relevant for gaming along with a far greater focus on GPU power?
+Tony Romaniuk Well with Doom getting Vulkan API update today I'll be putting that to the test, but honestly like I said in the video with consoles opting for weaker CPUs with higher core counts and Vulkan/DX12 being multi-thread heavy more cores will probably be the future.
What a great video i have watched 100s of these an you really explained it well
Great video. Thanks for the insight.
Great Video!
A few quick questions:
What is the program you're running in the background that shows the GPU / CPU / FPS performance ?
I recently purchased a gtx 1070, upgraded from a 750ti. I'm still using an old 6120 AMD cpu w/ 10GB of ram. My setup is mainly for blizzard games, but will likely expand into BF1, possibly titanfall 2.
What CPU/Motherboard Combo would you recommend with a cash cap of $500-600? I need to make the upgrade like yesterday.
Thanks in advance!
I recently upgraded from a fx-8350 to a i5 6600k with a z170 mb and 16gb of ddr4 for 600$ CAD so about 500$ USD. If you don't wish to buy new ram you can go for a i5 4690k with a overclockable mb if you wish. That would last for a long time and you'll see a huge upgrade in cpu intensive games :)
Fan&Wind Production i mak draemz com tru thanks fan&wind. I was thinking a similar build to your suggestion. I'm also debating on this i7 combo www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx. , thoughts?
Did you happen to know what program he had on screen showing live cpu/gpu stats?
+William U get an i7. You'll see the benefits in our CPU showdown part 3 coming out this week.
how about 1440p ? Please test that too if possible (at least in a couple of games) as it is becoming a new sweet spot for gamers. I assume it will be more gpu bound in that resolution but if you could test that too I'll appreciate it.
+Ramin Zakariaee 1440p may becoming more popular, but the high refresh panels aren't as the cheapest ones out there are still damn near $500. For high refresh on a reasonable budget 1080p is still king.
Just because you get a bottlenecked cpu doesn't mean that it won't play ok. Proper benchmarking is the only way to know for sure, I use Unigine Heaven to test. The max score I can get with my i5 4670K is just under 4200 points regardless of the graphics cards I've tried so far, including with crossfire. The Xtreme present is a 1080p bench so ideal if that is the resolution you play at.
4K benches are a different story as the higher the graphics settings the more the card will come into play rather than the processor.
The i5 was benched at 4.57ghz and bottlenecks an R9 390 if I overclocked more than 10mhz on core or memory. Once there is a bottleneck the benchmark score will drop off, lowering the clock brings it back. Some people will find underclocking the card will improve performance if there is a bottleneck at stock settings.
Even with Vsync enabled on my 144hz monitor, I don't even notice that much, if any input lag or stuttering on games that run at at least above 100fps.
+Raymond The Crow yeah over 100fps input lag is gone. That's why my personally goal is to hit over 100 on all games. This video just shows that's not possible on an i5 cpu at this time. I'll be getting a 4790k for part 3 of our CPU showdown series anyway. I'm betting that'll cut the mustard.
are you going to upgrade to the i7 kaby lake, like i am. (with 4500+ ddr4 8gb sticks coming out soon. It might be time to upgrade)
+Matthew P I doubt Kaby Lake will be much of an improvement over Skylake. Honestly I'm going to hold out for Zen. Then see what the market looks like at that point.
good video ,makes sense .. finally CPU companies will have to make some big changes for their future products
or people will have no reason to buy their stagnant offerings .
btw do you have your CPU unparked and if not could you try it and see if it helps with utilization ?
But I really want to know how cheap can you be on a CPU before bottlenecking an rx 480
+Tico2858 It's basically the same as the GTX 970. The i5 2500K is probably your best answer as they go for $110-$120 on eBay. The i3 6100 may even be a better solution as its more power efficient and will hold its own in most titles against an OC 2500k.
What software are you using to show all those measurements over your gameplay?
Would be interesting to see the difference between the gen 2 onward i7's. (2600k, 3770k, 4770k etc.). From how far back is this really is an issue, because a 4,6GHz+ OC on all of those are pretty easy.
I'm still sitting on a 3770k clocked at 4,8 and I'm considering options for an upgrade path incl an 1070 atm... maybe wait for Zen+Vega? xD
+Generaal700600 from my testing so far the i7s are alright... It's the i5s that can't keep up with today's GPUs
I just made the decision to change my 1st i7 @4ghz to an x99 5820k in early 2017 (or something similar) simply due to the fact my x58 platform has lasted from late 09 till now and technically will still last until I move away from 1200p gaming.
awesome video can't wait for the next parts
+Blair Robinson Glad to help you out Blair. Go with the 6800k. The improvements with broadwell aren't hugely, but those little improvements help over time. Or honestly wait for Zen. Should be out early 2017. At the very least should drop Intel's prices a bit.
+The Good Old Gamer (TheGoodOldGamer) u thought about it but the 6800k is so expensive. I also intend to see what zen offers as well... partly why waiting till early 17'
I think it'd be a little silly (unless you don't have one) to drop cash on a new pc with the market so in flux right now.
from what I've seen the 6800k and 5820k clock similarly, and I won't need the 40 lanes as I doubt I'll double Pascal Titan ever :P
I'd honestly recommend the 6700K and recommend saving money on both CPU and Motherboard all the while getting the latest architecture, but if you're determined to get an X99 system, you're better off with Broadwell over Haswell.
+The Good Old Gamer (TheGoodOldGamer) I have thought about that, but they overclock so poorly for only $200 difference I can get the x99, I only really upgrade platform every 5-6 years :) so overclockong is what pushes me the distance. saying that zen could be the better choice so much up in the air atm
+Blair Robinson The trouble is if things keep up the way they're going I don't think any platform will last 5 years at this point
what about an i7-860 OC to 3.35Ghz with a GTX 1060 6GB? there will be a bottleneck?
In some cases yeah for 1st gen i7s is 3,8 minimum i guess
What would those cpus be compared to the new cpus. Is the i5 the same strength as like a modern i3?
+Disagree With Everything 1st gen core series hasn't held up well. A Skylake i3 is a better option to a 1st gen i7 at the moment.
Could you do the same with 1440p as there's supposed to be less of a bottleneck than 1080p
will it bottleneck with a i5 650 4.0Hz with the gtx 970
Please tell me it won't cause my birthday is coming up!😣🤐
+Finnie yes. An overclocked 970 is held back by a 4.4ghz 4690K
I meant 3.0 Ghz The Good Old Gamer Ok but is it still playable like will I be able to play at least 20 30 frames
+Finnie sure. Games will be fine. You just aren't getting all the performance out of your gpu. And upgrading GPUs any further will net no gains in performance.
Oh ok thx man cheers I understand now
I have an i7 860 2,8 Ghz running at 3,4Ghz with DDR3 running at 2400Mhz . Never had a problem with memory overclock.
Just started watching this. I almost have this exact setup. Hopefully by the end of this, I can decide if I just need to upgrade or build a new machine.
Should i feel bad that i'm prob the only one who prefers playing games at 720p on a GTX 1050?
+Basement Entertainment Nothing wrong with that. I think low res gaming is actually a viable way forward.
What benchmark tool did you use please. I have an i7 6700 with an Asus strix 1070 oc edition and 15 gig of ram.FRAPS does not show fps in some of these games like witcher or crysis 3 or gta 5 but does in rise of the tomb raider I want to be able to tweek it to each game but I cant if I cant measure the fps.Thanks for the good video.
sorry 16 gigs of ram lol
Thanks for that info
I'm watching this on an i7-930 system w/a GTX-660. And I just upgraded a couple of weeks ago to a i7-7700K and GTX-1080 (that machine is currently logged remotely onto work).
On what card was this Doom footage captured?
+BowGunner Videos were captured with OBS outside of benchmark testing
Yeah, but I was wondering which graphics card that was. Normally I can tell when I see the clockspeeds and framerates. I'm guessing it's a 970 but I'm not sure :P
as we saw the 970 and 1070 were the same unless he swapped to the newer i7,
also consider RUclips is probably running at 30fps as such he could be using a gtx960 and you'd never know :D
+BowGunner oh... 970 and 1070. I'll have a video out later this week with footage showing the differences. I didn't worry about it here as 1/2 the video is covered with graphs and charts hahaha.
Thanks for your demonstration.I thought of pairing my i5 core 4460k@4.3 Ghz overclock with gtx 1080. Will be bottleneck?
Thks for your feedback
+Ken Lim 1080 and an i5 is a bad idea for anything less than 4k. Lots of micro stuttering.
Thks for your info. Guess I'll get a gtx 1070 instead.
hi. can you tell me the exact model number of the ram that you're using? it is very very hard to find dual rank rams nowadays and those types of rams are the only supported ones for first generations cpus and motherboards.
Thank you for the video, can you also do a 2011 ( socket cpu) core i7-3820 vs your current cpu?
which is better the i7 950 or your first gen i7
your 4690k would never have bottlenecked your gtx 970, the 970 simply is not good enough for every game at 100+hz
+The Elitist The 970 can be held back by the 4690k even overclocked. The metrics are right in front of you in the gameplay footage. When GPU is not at 100% and the cpu is you are CPU limited. Any GPU should be able to hit over 100fps if settings are low enough. The only time they won't is if the cpu/ram can push that many frames. Check this out www.techspot.com/review/1263-gears-of-war-4-benchmarks/page4.html any cpu without 8 threads or higher are a major bottleneck. I5's are toast for high fps gaming. Sure they'll hit 60, but are waste with cards over $300. I7 4c/8t is only $300 makes sense to at least use a $300 cpu with $400+ GPUs. The numbers don't lie whether you like it or not.
If you find yourself CPU limited at 1080P with a 10 series card you could always downsample and shift the load back to the GPU
+Dallas Milton True if FPS targets are met (I.e. 120/144/165 or whatever)
Underutilisation = less of FPS drop when dealing with upping graphical details (assuming they are 100% GPU thing - like resolution, AA, AF).
So... they should be met, if they were met at the first place :)
Bottom line, over clock your K cpu if you can or net a newer cpu ?
My i5 760 @ 4.35 GHz (yes, not a typo) is stilling doing OK with my GTX960, but missing the 8 threads is really crippling sometimes. I'm definitely looking at getting something newer very soon.
looks like an i5-6600k @ 4.2GHz should be good enough for a 1060 or 480. Though I found that DX12 and Vulcan will be utilizing more cores, so i'm torn whether or not I should upgrade to an i7...
We don't know yet. It's too early to tell.
if you have the 6600k keep it for now, but in the future i would consider and i7 in 2 years or so.
6600k wil be plenty for years its a good proccesor and diference between an i7 and i5 are marginal ijn most games du games not using hypertreading that much.
is it worth buying a used i7 950. I got a AMD ATHLONE 760k
nope, try and go for a 2000 series minimum
If you can score a processor and motherboard for around $100 than Yes it is a great deal but I'd opt for a 860k if you have an FM2+ board, would be a cheaper upgrade and it will perform about the same.
why should he go for 2nd generation?
I would prefer a good i7 950 to a 2700k.
It first of all the price and these CPUs are still beasts today.
Here in Germany u can get an i7 950 in a good condition for 40 Euros.
The i7 2600k is around 150-200 euros.
and the performance difference is around 10%.
and even if it is a 25% gap; the 950 is still capble of playing all of the new games in ultra at 60+ fps.....so why should i care about 60 or 75 fps; both running smooth so what.
if the 2700k would the 100% faster it would be a wise choice but paying 100-150 bucks more for a 25% faster cpu is none-sense
Would love to get some more feedback on this i curently own a 950 paired with a 460 however i want to build a new PC should i get a 6700k with a z170 mobo or should i get a 1070 first?
What do you think about GTX 1080 i5 3450
Do you think an i7 2700k and a 1080 will be a big bottle neck at 1440p 100hz?
+Slade no. It should handle 100hz just fine
+The Good Old Gamer (TheGoodOldGamer) Thanks!
Is the next video in this series the Sandy Bridge processors?
+seraphis Yes
---Hi Good Old Gamer!!
If I pair an i7 6700 with a DDR3 1333Mhz will I see performance difference if I had used a DDR4 2400Mhz instead.
The GPU used will be, let's sat Nitro+ Rx 480 similar to a gtx 970.
Thanks.
They support DDR3, but my bad, not 1333Mhz, they use 1600Mhz.
I'm still waiting Good Old Gamer!
No they don't. DDR4 and DDR3 have a different form factor.
Jirkajua ^u should check mobos before talking. thnx
There are 6th gen mobo which can run ddr3 RAMs.
RAM USUALLY ONLY MATTERS IF YOUR CPU IS A BOTTLENECK
+Jirkajua theres a specific skylake motherboard chipset that supports ddr3, and its H110. better check it out, but not all H110 supports it, just look for H110-D3
I think you should test G-Sync or Freesync before dismissing them. For me, they're NECESSARY for smooth motion. Even at 100fps+ on a 144hz screen, it just doesn't compare.
Just a quick question, are you making sure to heat up the gpu before taking down numbers with the gtx 1080? as its boost clock can fluctuate allot once its warmed up.
+TinFoilCookies I have Asus strix GPU... It will not fluctuate. The cooler is efficient enough.
What would be a good GPU to pair for my i5 760? I am building this PC for my wife on a budget.
luigi90210 well I would get a 1050 ti or a gtx 1060, and probally a 470
GTX1060 or RX480 whichever is the best price. Will probably be the 3gb 1060 which should give a really nice 1080p experience with that CPU.
GTX 1050ti would be a good budget choice but really the GTX 1060 is the best pound to performance card out there. The RX470 is priced to close to the RX480 & 1060 and not that much better than the 1050ti.
I5 760 With RX470,GTX1060 3G OR 6G Varient, 1050TI rx480 should be enough choice
Just dont do SLI OR Crossfire because i5 1stgen MOBOS only had pcie2.0
Thank you for this video. I have been wondering for sometime what kind of gains I would get from upgrading my gpu with 1080 or 1070. I'm using a 930 i7 at 3.5g. This helped me me a lot. I now know for sure I'm will go with a cpu upgrade instead. Could you do a skylake cpu with a 770gtx?
+Brett Hayes You're welcome. I figure this will help a lot of people. Please share to get the word out.
An overpowered GPU on an older CPU can still be utilised if your goal is maximising resolution and graphics settings, which TBH is the majority of people. It only becomes an issue for the people who want the really high frame rates (120+).
+yogalD Exactly. All review sites cater to resolution and details, we focus on high FPS gaming as there's far less info out there for people interested in it.
Will a Intel 760 quad core at 3.80 ghz bottleneck a Gtx 1070 too much??
The rule of thumb in pc gaming always was a balanced system. Same price range usually ends up in a balanced system in the middle of the price spectrum. Once you get low or high enough the performance/price ratio breaks apart for good or bad.
will a 3930k bottleneck a 1070 or a 1080? I only have a 1050ti right now, but I just want to know what my upgrade path looks like for gpus
Not really. As far as I an aware 2nd gen Core CPUs, it won't bottleneck too badly. However, I would go with a 1060 or 1070, but not a 1080 just to stay on the safe side. I also have a 1050 Ti and I am very happy with its performance.
nah you will be fine
BigMan7o0 your fine, you should overclock though
I have a i7 920. Will a GTX 1060 make a bottleneck?
which 144 hz monitor do you have can you mention the model I was thinking of acer gn246hl 144 hz monitor
I have a i7 3770K running @4.56Ghz, 1600Mhz DDR3 and I was about to upgrade my GTX970 FTW for a GTX1080 Strix to use with my Rift & Vive.. (as my 970 o/clocked to +65 +65 +6Mv is only maintaining about 50fps in Elite Dangerous using Rift, so reprojection is a problem...)
I know this is different to your 144Mhz info, but I essentially need to maintain 90fps on 2160x1200, will the 1080 be overkill for my CPU (even though it's overclocked to 4.56Mhz, would love your input as nobody seems to cover this..
+VaultDweller no you should be good. First off I've proved that an i7 2600k is superior when it comes to minimum FPS to more modern i5s, so your 3770k will do fine. Over powering the GPU side should also help ensure minimums stay higher. My only recommendation would be spring $60-$70 on faster ram. This will also help keep minimum FPS higher. Ddr3 2400 is inexpensive right now.
So I guess my old CPU i7 950 OC at 4 GHz will seriously bottleneck a GTX 1070/1080 at resolution 1920x1080p @60 Hz ?
+Extreme 4k Gaming Exactly. So if you want to upgrade your monitor w/o upgrading your system go with a 1440p/60 or 4k setup. Avoid high refresh monitors.
+The Good Old Gamer (TheGoodOldGamer) Thank you guys! I want to upgrade my system with Z170 chipset, i7 6700K and 32Gb DDR4 3400Mhz or more.
+Extreme 4k Gaming The only problem it will be my TV, is from 2012, so he has HDMI 1.4
I have an i7-870 running on stock clocks, paired with a MSi GTX 1060 6GB, and I can say that this pair is definitely unmatched for today's generation (as long as it's running stock), because whether you put the game on low or ultra, the FPS difference is so minimal.
Xeon 3470, gigabyte h55m-ud2h, 12gb DDR3, 650W, 1Tb WD blue. Can I buy a 480 and be quiet for the next 2 years(1080p)?
what i5 4460 bottleneck with GTX 1060?
Which one is better option for the i5 4670K at 4.3GHz, GTX 1060 or GTX 1070? Thanks in advance...
1070 specially if you game at 1440p or 4k
My monitor works at 1080p/60Hz...
1080p60hz? Gtx 1060 will be more than enough.
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Made me think about my decision of getting a 1080 for my 5 year old system - i7 2600K 2 @ 3.4 GHz, maybe i might just go 480 ?
+RemusKingOfRome5 Probably a better option
thanks both, I'll definitely go 480 but wait for a partner card with a decent cooler.
Just upgraded my system from a 2600k @4.2 ghz to a 6950x currently at 4.2 but Gould be able to hit 4.4 once I switch out the case for one with better cooling. I have seen a big increase in fps on two 980s in sli. The only issue I have is that doom no longer runs. It loads into ultra low red and then gets stuck on the loading screen. You said that its ram dependent but I have 64gb of ddr4 at 3200 MHz, what do you think is causing the problem?
Thanks and no I don't intent to just play games.
+0itch0 Doom doesn't really support SLI/crossfire. Try disabling SLI
Awesome video. :)
thank you, I learnt a lot.
so will i get i5 6600k and gtx 1060 or i5 6500 and gtx 1070? both builds will cost about the same, need your thoughts on this.
+RaTuL Chakrabarty (RatuL) never buy a non K CPU. For a few bucks more you gain 20% extra overhead. That said at this point I'd recommend the 6700k over the 6600k easily
I got a Xeon E5-1650 (6 Core, 12 thread, 3.2 GHz) and a GeForce GTX 780 Ti. Is it worth to upgrade to a GTX 1070/1080?
Got i5 760 and GT 430 back in 2010, after 2 years i changed gpu to HD 7750, now planning on getting new PC (old i5 just consumes too much power and bit too slow for newer games (if i would upgrade just gpu again).
First your vídeo is really well made and very informative.
Man I have a i7 870 @4.0ghz 5 years old paired with GTX 970 and yeah my little friend is getting tired BUT I play with tv 60fps limited so my friend and I will be living for a couple more years with gtx 1060.
Can I play with a gtx 1070 for a month with my i5 4460 than the next moth get a i7 6700k ??? without have any problem ??
+Drax Gaming yeah. You'll see a nice numb when you upgrade too.
So I managed to win an Asus GTX 1080 Strix from a local IT sites Christmas competition and it's going replace my current R9 390. The thing is, my current CPU is a ye old LGA1366 hexcore Xeon X5660 and I kinda thought that my current Radeon would be about on the limit what my CPU could feasibly handle (and it handles this card just fine). Now I have overclocked the shit out of this brick, currently running 4.44GHz @ 1.35v and I'm kinda wondering if the higher core and thread count could actually salvage something, especially when running DX12 or Vulkan games.
My current platform will get upgraded once I actually have the money to do so (plus I'm kinda waiting what Zen actually has to offer and at what price), but I'd be interested in seeing some test results with these older Xeons, which are in all honesty still pretty kickass bricks, especially for their age.
Hey man, I have an i7 870, and I'm planning to get a 60hz 2560 by 1080 screen. I need a GPU to last me 3 years from now (only 60 fps), do I need a 1060 or a 1070? I saw a benchmark of an i7 870 w/ GTX 1060 @ 1920x1080 getting 70-80 fps (BF1). I'm scared that it will only be exactly 60 fps once at 2560 by 1080, which means it won't last me 3 years (since I want a minimum of 60 fps). Do you think I should get a 1070, or will the 1060 keep me at a constant 60 fps @ 2560 by 1080 for 3 years?
I use a gtx 1070 with 21x9 ultra wide 2560x1080 75 hrz with a i5 2500 non k clocked @ 3.8 on all 4 cores . Heavy modded skyrim i keep it locked @60hrz no frames drop and warframe maxed i lock it to 75hrz no frame drops
the 1070 just loves my monitor even with out overclocked cpu i can do the same .. the higher rez take some load of the cpu @1080p max settings in csgo 175-225 fps but @ 2560x1080 250 300 fps... hope this helps
Hi good old gamer
just wondering i have a old alienware area 51 with a I7 980x gulf town running at 4.0 ghz and 12 gb 1600 mhz ram with 2 gtx 480 in sli and have a 120hz 1080p monitor was thinking about getting a gtx 1070 or 1060 what would you recommend?
+jamie birks the system will hold back a 1070, the 1060 should work well. If you're planning a complete upgrade starting with the GPU get the 1070 as it'll hold up longer
Thanks for the help appreciate it.
What about i7 6700HQ which is a laptop CPU?
xeon w3550 and gtx 1060 bottleneck?
i have a gtx 970 and i7 960, and play at 1080p. does it bottleneck?
I got an I5 3570k @ 4ghz paired with a GTX 1070. Do I need to upgrade?
Great effort, I was looking for this kind of video for a long time & it's pop out in my home screen. I have xeon w3530 2.8 GHz identical to i7 930 GHz in dell precision T3500. I will upgrade it soon because it can be overclocked, even if I overclock it I'll not get the complete benefit of GTX 1060. So I get a question? I'm looking for skylake platform. I had never overclocked any cpu, ram or gpu in my life & I will not overclock so which cpu and mobo good enough to pair it with gtx 1060. I'm talking about only 6th gen processors with 1151 socket only. Here is my opinion which one is best match:
i3 & B150(in future upgrade to i5 or may be i7) low budget right now.
i3 & H170(in future upgrade to i5 or may be i7) low budget right now.
Need your honest opinion as you have given in this video to explain us, I haven't included Z170 as I told you earlier I don't do overclocking or I'm not into it.
+xamy butt no overclocking, get the i5 6500. Will pair well with the GTX 1060
will my i5 4460 bottleneck a gtx 1070 g1 gigabyte?
what about the gtx 1060 ? has anyone tried to pair it with core i5 760 1st gen ?
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got 4k 28" monitor paired whit r9 280. and hoping to game whit it. i got i5 2500k 4.5ghz oc. should i get mu cpu paired whit 1070 ?
+Jesse Suominen For 4K the GTX 1080 is the best option right now. The 1070 will not be able to deliver 60fps without going to medium and possibly low details
will go whit gtx 1070 then. thx
Since 4K is limited to 60hz at the moment the 2500K would be fine. Remember I said in the start of the video you can get away with older/weaker CPUs with lower refresh targets. Resolution has no effect on CPU load.
i got pcie 3,0 on my mobo so i should be good to go.
If I buy RX 480 (8GB) to use with my old i5-750 (No OC) playing with Medium/High settings in 1600*900 it's worth to pay? & bottleneck much? I don't want to spend a lot of money to big PC upgrade for this time.
When including Crysis footage you really need to upload in higher resolution to get more bandwidth. The grass looks like a big smear and hurts the eye.
will a i7 2600k work fine with gtx 1070 ?
Would an AMD FX 8320 Bottleneck a 1070?
Bottleneck? It's a surgical needle...
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VipeR. Look at the neck of a bottle, and at a surgical needle. I'm sure if you try hard enough, you'll get the joke.
Don't exactly have a surgical needle at hand.
VipeR. Google images. I'm not going to explain the joke.
Now this is the reviews that we need. Made for people that have the great majority of gaming PCs. Not just X99 glitter and shiny mirrors.
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+SamuHell782 Hahaha thanks. Since Joe recently just upgraded his x58 setup I figured this would be apply to many people, and at the very least be an interesting pairing of hardware.
Will I notice at least 25 percent boost in any game if I over clock my i56600k to 4.4 ghz ????
+Dunde Man most games will see a significant boost from overclocking
+The Good Old Gamer (TheGoodOldGamer) With a 6600k hmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Taking this to other channel's. Be prepared to list your DXDIAG and back everything up. I am calling Bs on the info you are giving. Not about older CPU's but a 4690k bottlenecking a 970............... needing an overclock from a 6600k... right
is i5 750 paired with gtx 1060 ok if i want 60 hz 1080p ? do you think nba 2k18 will do well on high settings
Will an I7 875k (not OC) bottleneck a Gtx 1060 4gb sc?
I have a 1060 with a gtx 970 for physics. got the 1060 as a surprise gift and haven't gotten around to getting rid of the 970 due to not being sure what to keep. for gaming only I'm doing fine. I even added a usb 3.0 via a pci extender to play with my rift. I only have 1080p dual 25 inch wide screen monitors so staying within that resolution I have been very happy. btw I also have a i7875k that's oc at 4.1 ghz.
Help! I am 16, and have virtually no income, but am looking for the most beneficial upgrade to the pc I've scraped together. The cost of said upgrade is unlimited, since I can save up money over time from misc. tasks, bets and other dumb stuff. I just need to know what part i need to upgrade soonest, and a recommendation for the replacement.
---Specs---
AMD 8320 @stock (need cooler for stable OC, obviously)
Asrock 970 extreme 3
10gb of mixed ddr3 (all manually set to 1333 for max stability ;3)
EVGA GTX 750ti SC @stock
CX500m power supply
1 tb hdd
250gb hdd
some fans :3
all inside a nzxt source 210
I am playing @900p 75hz (my monitor accepted 75hz in nvidia control panel, despite official specs only allowing 75hz@ lower resolutions...YAY!)
Ideally, I want to max all my games and still get ~45fps...currently I struggle to get the 24fps "cinematic experience" when maxing games.
save for a gtx 950 or wait for gtx 1050 I reckon
and after that a 120 gb ssd for your os
iancafc123 First suggestion, i'll pass on the ssd
For best price/performance, get a good cooler and OC. While you can get the 950 for cheap new, it's performance of the SSC version even is around 60% slower then the 970 stock. Both used GTX 970 and the Rx480 4gb new will be around $200. Probably the best graphics cards for their price. Other then that, just be aware that your PSU will be getting close to being maxed out.
Pretty much what T Swag said...the RX 480 is gonna be the best bang for your buck. An SSD won't help with frame rates just boot and load times, that said I have at least one in all my computers...but it's a luxury. Upgrade the GPU. As for the power supply, you should be fine....that's a pretty good 500 watt unit.
i have a core i5 3750k overclocked to 4.5 Ghz
I want to buy a gtx 1080
do I need to change my cpu ??
the massive boost in performance happened on the 2nd gen (sandy bridge) the 1st should have been called something else as its miles behind the rest of the core gens
Will a i7 960 (3.2Ghz - 3.4Ghz) bottleneck with an RX 470?
+HunterGames447 no you're good with the 470
The Good Old Gamer How about GTX 1050ti
fine