when I went to get boots in my local fly shop, they gave me fly weight size 12 and I am glad they did that, I am not using them that much, but they were in and out water for four years and they are nice and sharp like first day.
Had the Orvis lightweight Botha now for 2 seasons. Down under in Australia. Love the boots. Sturdy and lightweight in all conditions. Also good fir stepping on the red belly black snakes we have here in the warmer months. The Orvis lightweight boots, safely allow you to position your foot on the back of the deadly snakes head before making a quick get away. Disclaimer: snake recovers moments after being stunned. So no animals are injured or destroyed in the process. In summary, the Orvis lightweight boot is ideal for our tough and dangerous conditioned Down Under.
Then there are those of us with a size 16 wide that can't find anything to work. I would just love to find something big enough to go over socks for wet wading.
Any comments on durability rather than comparing new boots? I've found the Simms wear very quickly in the upper in the fabric areas. 3 to 6 months and they were toast
@@Madriveroutfitters Love your videos. Keep up the great work taking the mystery out of a mysterious pastime. "A trout is a moment of beauty known only to those who seek it." - Arnold Gingrich
Thanks for the video. One thing I haven't seen mentioned in regard to wading boots is the quality of the insole. In any other pursuit the support provided by the insole is a big topic, often resulting in custom orthotics/insoles being put in. given that we're on our feet all day I'm not sure why the same consideration isn't given for wading boots. Maybe it's because the effect of the insole is negated by the bootfoot wader. In any case, I just got a pair of the Ultralights and not surprisingly these things have 0 support in the insole. Do you have any recommendations for putting in an after market insole?
I have the same type of foot and finding anything that works is a ...... I'm having success with Simms Guide three boots and Freestone waders. They have become much more comfortable as I have worn them over time. Nothing else came close unless I was 2 - 3 sizes too big. Good luck. My boots have felt bottoms. If they are legal where you fish, get the felt. They stick unbelievably well. I have walked close to 50 miles in them and they are still great. They are even better in the snow and on slippy clay than my rubber soled boots were. Good luck.
Dizzy_Arsenal I have a medium wide foot. Ordered orvis size 11&12, both too slim. Returned them to store and tried on 13, still not wide enough. The Simms size 12 fit the best, Used them two days fit and grip were fine without studs, grip studs are next.
No, not at all. No way to be sure the same amount or weight of water was in each boot for starters. We are comparing here the ACTUAL weight of the boots.
Just weighing some boots 🤙 The weight test begins at 7:20. Thanks for watching, friends!
You should also do weight comparisons when wet, just to see how much extra weight you putting on your feet when you exit river and hiking to next spot
How in the world would you qualify that? Can't be done objectively but thanks for sharing.
@@Madriveroutfitters i'd dip them in water and weight them again to see which one has more spongy material and retains more water, equals heavier
when I went to get boots in my local fly shop, they gave me fly weight size 12 and I am glad they did that, I am not using them that much, but they were in and out water for four years and they are nice and sharp like first day.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review Bryan. I'll be calling you to order a pair. Hope all is well.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support!!!
Had the Orvis lightweight Botha now for 2 seasons. Down under in Australia. Love the boots. Sturdy and lightweight in all conditions.
Also good fir stepping on the red belly black snakes we have here in the warmer months. The Orvis lightweight boots, safely allow you to position your foot on the back of the deadly snakes head before making a quick get away.
Disclaimer: snake recovers moments after being stunned. So no animals are injured or destroyed in the process.
In summary, the Orvis lightweight boot is ideal for our tough and dangerous conditioned Down Under.
Thanks for sharing. Surprised Brian left that benefit out of the video.
Wow 😲, Great products Brian 👍. I'm a bit of an penny pincher. So it would have to be Orvis.
Neither is a bad choice!
Great review Brian!
FishingMcDanielStyle Thanks for being here!
Then there are those of us with a size 16 wide that can't find anything to work. I would just love to find something big enough to go over socks for wet wading.
Give a call or e-mail the shop. The guys should be able to help you out. 614-451-0363 or admin@madriveroutfitters.com.
I have the Orvis and love them. Don't see how they could even improve it.
Thanks for watching. They will....don't worry.
Any comments on durability rather than comparing new boots? I've found the Simms wear very quickly in the upper in the fabric areas. 3 to 6 months and they were toast
Thanks for watching. Always feel free to contact the folks at the shop with questions. They are always happy to help.
Which one would you say is better to hike in? Planning on putting in some mile this summer
River Laskey Give the shop a call or e-mail and they can help you there. 614-451-0363.
Since the Orvis boot is $7/ounce and the Simms boot is about $9.50/ounce doesn't that make the Orvis boot a better deal?
Could be. All depends on your perspective.
@@Madriveroutfitters Love your videos. Keep up the great work taking the mystery out of a mysterious pastime. "A trout is a moment of beauty known only to those who seek it." - Arnold Gingrich
Or any fish. We don't discriminate.
Miss my Patagonia riverwalkers
Light as a sneaker and more importantly…I could slip them on with no effort…(bad back)
We miss them too! Great boots.
Thanks for the video. One thing I haven't seen mentioned in regard to wading boots is the quality of the insole. In any other pursuit the support provided by the insole is a big topic, often resulting in custom orthotics/insoles being put in. given that we're on our feet all day I'm not sure why the same consideration isn't given for wading boots. Maybe it's because the effect of the insole is negated by the bootfoot wader. In any case, I just got a pair of the Ultralights and not surprisingly these things have 0 support in the insole. Do you have any recommendations for putting in an after market insole?
Please send your questions over to the shop and they will be happy to help. Thanks.
ofc simms done it lol. I mean Brian said it, "Simms has em beat!"
Thanks for watching.
Any idea if the weight difference changes when wet? Seems like they have pretty similar construction so probably not?
No idea, sorry.
They're all built to drain and not absorb so probably not, or at least where it's distinguishable. My Simms Freestones don't if that helps.
Best use for a tenkara rod I’ve seen yet haha
Hey....watch it. We love Tenkara.
"That's my tenkara rod"
Nice, someone finally found a use for one
Hey now. He didn't mean it THAT way. They have many uses.....as you see here.
30.00 difference in a few Ounces shy than the Orvis . is it worth it??? and can you even tell???
Probably not when on and wet. Your call. They are both great selling boots.
What about Volume for those of us with high arches and a wide foot?
greg sage Contact the shop directly and they can help you there. 614-451-0363 or admin@madriveroutfitters.com. Thanks.
When will his book be available?
Should be soon. Stay tuned.
I definitely will! You all should do a grand opening of the book being available, I’d make the drive to the shop to get an autograph and everything!
Good idea!
@@Madriveroutfitters Will it be availble at Amazon as well?
Absolutely not. Fly shops only. We don't do business with Amazon and never will. Support your local fly shop. Thanks!
Anybody have a recommendation for wide wading boots? I have an incredibly wide foot with high arches and I can’t find anything.
Contact the shop directly and they can surely help. admin@madriveroutfitters or 614-451-0363
I have the same type of foot and finding anything that works is a ...... I'm having success with Simms Guide three boots and Freestone waders. They have become much more comfortable as I have worn them over time. Nothing else came close unless I was 2 - 3 sizes too big. Good luck. My boots have felt bottoms. If they are legal where you fish, get the felt. They stick unbelievably well. I have walked close to 50 miles in them and they are still great. They are even better in the snow and on slippy clay than my rubber soled boots were. Good luck.
Dizzy_Arsenal I have a medium wide foot. Ordered orvis size 11&12, both too slim. Returned them to store and tried on 13, still not wide enough. The Simms size 12 fit the best, Used them two days fit and grip were fine without studs, grip studs are next.
But shouldn’t you weigh these shoes when saturated with water ?
My thoughts exactly...
No, not at all. No way to be sure the same amount or weight of water was in each boot for starters. We are comparing here the ACTUAL weight of the boots.
Mad River Outfitters I do hear what your saying, it was just a thought and it looks like the Orvis would retain more water anyways.
@@Madriveroutfitters second sentence says it all really...
Everyone knows the more you spend on boots the better you are at fishing!
Nope. Not true. They're just boots.
A difference of 2.5oz on your feet, you could never tale
Thanks for watching.