This is the best thing I’ve watched on TV in weeks, thanks for taking the time! Amazing walk through, great explanations, I’m ready to tackle the 302 in my 77
HEI distributor for Ford 351 Very nicely done and complete. Details, which are SO IMPORTANT are all there. You should see some of the other vague crap out there. Thank you very much.
Good video Kevin I am glad your told your viewers about the difference between the 351 and 302 lots of guys think the intakes will fit either motor and are pretty upset when they don’t fit
Hey thanks for this video. I’m about to head into the garage and do this very same upgrade on my 289 67 Mustang. Thought I’d do a quick refresher course before making a total mess of it all. Your video was exactly what I was looking for. Melbourne Australia.
Thanks Kevin, just got an HEI for the 170/6 Bronco motor in my 53 F100 and spent most of the day wasting my time with other people's videos, but this on describes and explains everything perfectly! Thanks from England!
I just finished installing the HEI distributor for my 89 f150 with the 302 (it kept eating ignition modules on me), I cannot thank you enough for posting these videos👍
Hi whats the total timing you can push on an 82 engine as we have the 1980 ford 302 engine built for economy and not horses so i understand due to the fuel crises at that time ?
Nice video,have a friend with multiple issues with the ignition system,somebody told him about this conversion,we're going to make it, thanks for the detailed explanation.
It doesn't matter where the distributor falls. As long as the distributor goes all the way down you can run number one from there. That's one of the advantages of using a POS CHEVY distributor. Oh and thank you so much!!! Glad I could help. Especially when no one else out there is telling you people these FACTS. Like genius here 😂
Thank you for the explanation video! I'm trying to run this set up in my 78 460. I have that wire you plugged into the under side of the cap, but where do I wire it too?
Thanks for the video... I have this project ahead of me for my 460. Just to clarify, the ignition RUN wire is the one that goes to the new HEI Bat connection. I'm looking at Ebay for the HEI you have but I cant seem to see the adjustable + - on the vac. Where did you get yours? how's it doing now? thanks
Nice well done video, thanks for buying a tripod and not doing everything with one hand! So, is this much different than the 390? (except maybe the firing order) also, how did you wire the HEI?
I just got an HEI distributor for my 351c. I was having a hell of a time diagnosing what was wrong with the old duraspark and decided that I wanted something simpler. Now that I got the duraspark working again, I'm kinda afraid to change it out. I know the HEI is going to help me next time I need to diagnose an ignition problem, but I hate to mess stuff up by changing things that aren't broken.
Should the vacuum advance always face towards the front of vehicle? Mine is facing towards passenger tire, and I'm pretty sure I'm having slight timing issues
I am attempting this at the moment however I also went to a one wire alternator. I have that hooked up and I have zero fire at the key. No lights or anything. Would you know what I might have done wrong?
Igniter vs Points distributor vs HEI I have a 1990 Lincoln Town with the Windsor V8. Looking for tune-up advice, how to get the best fuel efficiency. upgrading does sound like less maintenance but questioning ROI Return On Investment? btw the car has sat for 8 years and running well on warm days. but if I don't let it warm up 20* F or colder and try to drive off after 10 min it seems rough until it gets to operating temp. also after 45 to 1hr idle to op temp. it will kill the motor most of the time when I change gears R or D. I haven't noticed during warmer days dying during gear change but I have only had it for three weeks.
The ford 1990 has factory TFI the ignition module is screwed to the side of the distributor points where last used in 1975 in 1976 all fords where dura spark the GM upgrade is a nice all in one unit that is time tested and is a big part in GMs reliability HEI hi energy ignition has afew great features 65k voltage coil where ford is around 45k so GM has better spark which allows for a wider plug gap larger rotor to prevent ark from jumping to ground and other plugs also remove the rotor and you can really zero in on advance curve so its easier to tune and plenty of upgradable parts advance kit proforance module hi out coils and what does this mean it means that you can really get more power and better gas mileage out of this upgrade and it's noticeable
I am about to start this project - my original holley carb has a tps on the side which is wired into the harness. As the module is not being used does this mean that the tps is not necessary? Also the dist I have does not have a vacuum advance - I think this is handled by the crank position sensor down below. Should I just run a vacuum hose to the base of the carb to provide vacuum for this? Thank you - a very helpful video!
@@2strokeguru OK great....I note that on both your dist cap and mine the no 1 post is where the 7 is on the diagram in the manual....put mine to tdc and the rotor is pointing pretty much where yours is but according to the book its about 3 posts over? Im going to go with that and not second guess myself.
Hello Kevin---my HEI distr arrived at last...everything is the same put there is an additional length of about 3/4 inch of darker metal/steel on the very end of the shaft...is that a piece which should have stayed in the oil pump? Wish I could post a picture to you.
Follow up: Installed as you have shown and it works perfectly - no idea why the old dist had a longer tip but the new one fit fine - fixed all my problems and cleaned up the engine bay a great deal. The old system did not permit you to change timing the new system does and the motor runs far better having checked and adjusted the timing. Thank you for a very helpful video.
Excellent video! One question, how can you tell what gear is installed? Steel is needed for a roller cam. What gear comes on that distributor? I do know there’s a few different materials and it is extremely important to have the right one.
Yes but not a huge one the carb i brought holly 600CFM same as i took off its call holly Street warrior so it more of a stock replacement will better jets and fuel mapping the engine is factory 351ho so what i did to get more power i deleted the egr valve and went with a GM HEI IGNITION system that delivers 65k of fire power to the plug and better advance curve so i have a power gain without losing fuel economy i also charged the secondary spring to a lighter one so when i do put my foot in it it comes to life sooner
Great video. So you didnt have to set vacume advance or total timing just initial ? I have just installed a max efi500 into a 1950 f100 so its been a learnung curve so my question is genuine.
Yes setting the timing on a card truck you disconnect the vaccum advance and plug the line on factory for efi they use a TFI THIN FILM IGNITION they have octane rod to set the distributor on the wiring there a plug called spout pull it out its just like the vaccum line only electric now if you are installing the HEI YOU WILL need to set it up the way of the carb
i have a 1977 ford f150 super cab witha 400 i have put in edelbrock 4 barrle carb paired it with edelbrock intake do you recomend this name brand for ma bi gurl video is up if ya like check her out greetings from texas yeeeee haaaaaa great info
The 351w is different from the 289/302 and is different from the 351m / 400 the one in my video is for the 351w brand assault racing part # 1035113 KMG PERFORMANCE SELLS OR YOU CAN BUY IT ON EBAY EBAY IS 10 DOLLARS MORE THAN DIRECT
My father in law left my wife a 1978 Ford 100 with only 68,000 miles on it. The only way I could get it to run properly was to install this type of distributor, and a Rochester 4 barrel Quadrajet with an Adapter plate. That duraspark ignition system is JUNK. I wasted a lot of time trying to get it to work properly. Junk Junk junk.
Don't let the stock distributor get to far away, that Chevy style hei is crap. 221, 255, 260, 289, 302 shaft is 1/4 in, 351w is all by themselves with 5/16 along with 351c, 351m, 429, 460.
Nah the as a professional mechanic this upgrade is a great upgrade here's a few reasons why 1 less wires 2 easier to get parts from 3 easier to change advance curve 4 hotter ignition 5 better fuel economy from the larger plug gap 6 iron core ignition coil last longer than oil filled coils 7 better Rev limiter 8 the ford pick up coils are junk
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This is the best thing I’ve watched on TV in weeks, thanks for taking the time! Amazing walk through, great explanations, I’m ready to tackle the 302 in my 77
Very welcome happy to help
HEI distributor for Ford 351
Very nicely done and complete. Details, which are SO IMPORTANT are all there. You should see some of the other vague crap out there. Thank you very much.
Very welcome happy to help
So thorough and helpful! 👍🏻
Thank you so very much for your time in this video. Very much appreciated.
Very welcome
Good video Kevin I am glad your told your viewers about the difference between the 351 and 302 lots of guys think the intakes will fit either motor and are pretty upset when they don’t fit
Thank you not all sbf are the same
Hey thanks for this video. I’m about to head into the garage and do this very same upgrade on my 289 67 Mustang. Thought I’d do a quick refresher course before making a total mess of it all. Your video was exactly what I was looking for. Melbourne Australia.
Thats awesome its a great upgrade and a noticeable difference
Thanks Kevin, just got an HEI for the 170/6 Bronco motor in my 53 F100 and spent most of the day wasting my time with other people's videos, but this on describes and explains everything perfectly! Thanks from England!
also, would be good to see you set up the vacuum advance, or did you just leave it as is?
I just finished installing the HEI distributor for my 89 f150 with the 302 (it kept eating ignition modules on me), I cannot thank you enough for posting these videos👍
Very welcome happy to help
1968 cougar 302 getting done this weekend! Thank you for the amazing details. This information will be passed down foresure. Thank you
Man, awesome video. I'm getting ready to do the swap in my 82 Bronco. Excellent info, thank you.
Hi whats the total timing you can push on an 82 engine as we have the 1980 ford 302 engine built for economy and not horses so i understand due to the fuel crises at that time ?
Thank you for the video. I am getting ready to do the same thing. I appreciate the detail as I am not the most versed in electrical.
Welcome it's a great upgrade you will notice more power
Extremely knowledgeable lad, great explanations and very easy to listen to👍
Thank you I appreciate that
Your the man I was struggling before I seen this video. Now im the man too thank you Kevin!
Very welcome
Nice video,have a friend with multiple issues with the ignition system,somebody told him about this conversion,we're going to make it, thanks for the detailed explanation.
Thank you
It doesn't matter where the distributor falls. As long as the distributor goes all the way down you can run number one from there. That's one of the advantages of using a POS CHEVY distributor. Oh and thank you so much!!! Glad I could help. Especially when no one else out there is telling you people these FACTS. Like genius here 😂
Awesome job great detail....
Very detailed information. I definitely learned something new thx👌
Great video! Love the detail!
Thank you
That's some. Pretty handy Information can't wait to see the second part
Thanks
Has part 2 been posted?
About to do this with a 86 f250 with a 460. This helps immensely!
Very welcome
You did a great job. Bought a CRT model for my 466 bbf. Hope it turns out like yours.
Thank you i noticed a power improvement because of the advance curve im very happy with the the power and economy
Thank you for the explanation video! I'm trying to run this set up in my 78 460. I have that wire you plugged into the under side of the cap, but where do I wire it too?
Thanks for the video... I have this project ahead of me for my 460. Just to clarify, the ignition RUN wire is the one that goes to the new HEI Bat connection. I'm looking at Ebay for the HEI you have but I cant seem to see the adjustable + - on the vac. Where did you get yours? how's it doing now? thanks
Well done brother !!!
Thank you
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. Extremely helpful and now I know I can do it myself. What state are you in?
Welcome im in Massachusetts
Nice well done video, thanks for buying a tripod and not doing everything with one hand! So, is this much different than the 390? (except maybe the firing order) also, how did you wire the HEI?
I just got an HEI distributor for my 351c. I was having a hell of a time diagnosing what was wrong with the old duraspark and decided that I wanted something simpler. Now that I got the duraspark working again, I'm kinda afraid to change it out. I know the HEI is going to help me next time I need to diagnose an ignition problem, but I hate to mess stuff up by changing things that aren't broken.
Should the vacuum advance always face towards the front of vehicle? Mine is facing towards passenger tire, and I'm pretty sure I'm having slight timing issues
What do you have your timing set at ? I have it at the suggested 10 but thinking to bumping it to 12
I converted my maverick over to the duraspark set up years ago now going to be putting a 69 351w in and I’m going to be going this route
this is a great unit and out of the box the advance curve you can feel and you can gap plugs same as 350 Chevy gives more power
Excellent
Thank you
I am attempting this at the moment however I also went to a one wire alternator. I have that hooked up and I have zero fire at the key. No lights or anything. Would you know what I might have done wrong?
Just ordered one for my 65 t bird
BEST upgrade that can be done
Nope I actually had to switch back 2 distributors failed
Do you mark the crank at zero or Advanced bit? Thanks
What brand is that distributor and which would work on a 1986 inline 6 ?
Igniter vs Points distributor vs HEI
I have a 1990 Lincoln Town with the Windsor V8. Looking for tune-up advice, how to get the best fuel efficiency. upgrading does sound like less maintenance but questioning ROI Return On Investment? btw the car has sat for 8 years and running well on warm days. but if I don't let it warm up 20* F or colder and try to drive off after 10 min it seems rough until it gets to operating temp. also after 45 to 1hr idle to op temp. it will kill the motor most of the time when I change gears R or D. I haven't noticed during warmer days dying during gear change but I have only had it for three weeks.
The ford 1990 has factory TFI the ignition module is screwed to the side of the distributor points where last used in 1975 in 1976 all fords where dura spark the GM upgrade is a nice all in one unit that is time tested and is a big part in GMs reliability HEI hi energy ignition has afew great features 65k voltage coil where ford is around 45k so GM has better spark which allows for a wider plug gap larger rotor to prevent ark from jumping to ground and other plugs also remove the rotor and you can really zero in on advance curve so its easier to tune and plenty of upgradable parts advance kit proforance module hi out coils and what does this mean it means that you can really get more power and better gas mileage out of this upgrade and it's noticeable
I am about to start this project - my original holley carb has a tps on the side which is wired into the harness. As the module is not being used does this mean that the tps is not necessary? Also the dist I have does not have a vacuum advance - I think this is handled by the crank position sensor down below. Should I just run a vacuum hose to the base of the carb to provide vacuum for this? Thank you - a very helpful video!
there's a vacuum port on the left side halfway up the carb for the advance bottom big port is for brake booster
@@2strokeguru OK great....I note that on both your dist cap and mine the no 1 post is where the 7 is on the diagram in the manual....put mine to tdc and the rotor is pointing pretty much where yours is but according to the book its about 3 posts over? Im going to go with that and not second guess myself.
Hello Kevin---my HEI distr arrived at last...everything is the same put there is an additional length of about 3/4 inch of darker metal/steel on the very end of the shaft...is that a piece which should have stayed in the oil pump? Wish I could post a picture to you.
Follow up: Installed as you have shown and it works perfectly - no idea why the old dist had a longer tip but the new one fit fine - fixed all my problems and cleaned up the engine bay a great deal. The old system did not permit you to change timing the new system does and the motor runs far better having checked and adjusted the timing. Thank you for a very helpful video.
Excellent video! One question, how can you tell what gear is installed? Steel is needed for a roller cam. What gear comes on that distributor? I do know there’s a few different materials and it is extremely important to have the right one.
It's a steel gear that comes with the distributor
I actually went back to the duraspark turns out duraspark is actually better than the gm hei
GM normally pushes up at the gear where Ford pulls down if I'm not wrong. Curious how they designed the top to negate it wearing out the top.
Nice job
Did you notice a big change in performance vs the old carburetor ?
Yes but not a huge one the carb i brought holly 600CFM same as i took off its call holly Street warrior so it more of a stock replacement will better jets and fuel mapping the engine is factory 351ho so what i did to get more power i deleted the egr valve and went with a GM HEI IGNITION system that delivers 65k of fire power to the plug and better advance curve so i have a power gain without losing fuel economy i also charged the secondary spring to a lighter one so when i do put my foot in it it comes to life sooner
Great video exactly what I needed.
Does anyone know which distributor I would use for a 74 391?
Thank you you will have to look up on ebay
Great video. So you didnt have to set vacume advance or total timing just initial ? I have just installed a max efi500 into a 1950 f100 so its been a learnung curve so my question is genuine.
Yes setting the timing on a card truck you disconnect the vaccum advance and plug the line on factory for efi they use a TFI THIN FILM IGNITION they have octane rod to set the distributor on the wiring there a plug called spout pull it out its just like the vaccum line only electric now if you are installing the HEI YOU WILL need to set it up the way of the carb
@@2strokeguru yes ive set her idle up but need to set iacv steps between 3 and 10. Then do timing.
I have a 1992 Ford 5.8 L. Do you recommend me replacing the stock distributor with a Hei
No I actually had to go back to factory I had 2 fail
Which wire did you put on the bat side.
Positive from the coil
i have a 1977 ford f150 super cab witha 400 i have put in edelbrock 4 barrle carb paired it with edelbrock intake do you recomend this name brand for ma bi gurl video is up if ya like check her out greetings from texas yeeeee haaaaaa great info
Which company did you buy the distributor from? Great video
Ebay I brought 2 of them 65 dollars both failed and now I am back to the factory infact I didn't know MSD copys the ford dura spark
Can i do this to my coyote swap?
it was a joke*
Do you know the firing order for 71f100 5.9
5.9?
What was the part number on that distributor
The 351w is different from the 289/302 and is different from the 351m / 400 the one in my video is for the 351w brand assault racing part # 1035113 KMG PERFORMANCE SELLS OR YOU CAN BUY IT ON EBAY EBAY IS 10 DOLLARS MORE THAN DIRECT
Are you still running the HEI distributor
No back to duraspark 2 hei failed
didnt explain how to keep the gear on the distributor shaft, mine keeps falling off
The gear is supposed to have a roll pin through it Sounds like you got a defective part
Where did that distributor come from.
Ebay.com 351w HEI
What's the name of that manufacturer on that distributor?
It's a cheep $60 knockoff from ebay I don't have the package anymore
My father in law left my wife a 1978 Ford 100 with only 68,000 miles on it. The only way I could get it to run properly was to install this type of distributor, and a Rochester 4 barrel Quadrajet with an Adapter plate. That duraspark ignition system is JUNK. I wasted a lot of time trying to get it to work properly. Junk Junk junk.
Im struggling with this at the moment it is horrible
Don't let the stock distributor get to far away, that Chevy style hei is crap. 221, 255, 260, 289, 302 shaft is 1/4 in, 351w is all by themselves with 5/16 along with 351c, 351m, 429, 460.
Those automatic locking hubs were junk,most removed them and were tossed replaced with warn hubs
I have never had a problem with them I know what you mean because I worked at a dealership and I have a bunch of parts for them
Exploded apart during heavy duty four wheeling.I have removed them replacing them with warn manual hubs.The automatics went in the scrap metal pile
@@Toolaholic7 oh yeah my truck never goes off road 4x4 comes in handy in new England and with the posi 9in I barely use the 4x4
Why
Why what
Soo simple. Lol. Not 1000years. Will you change it on my truck. ? Lol
I actually had to change back to the factory setup 2 distributors failed upper bushing kept seized up
@@2strokeguru are these still running ? or are these allready broken? i'm looking for a distributor
@@chevroletbelair1 I have gone through 2 gm distributors and switched back to ford yes both have absolutely failed
Did you go back to a original ford or a rebuild? What brand?
@@chevroletbelair1 original
Now tainted by GM parts, might as well LS swap it now!
Nah the as a professional mechanic this upgrade is a great upgrade here's a few reasons why 1 less wires 2 easier to get parts from 3 easier to change advance curve 4 hotter ignition 5 better fuel economy from the larger plug gap 6 iron core ignition coil last longer than oil filled coils 7 better Rev limiter 8 the ford pick up coils are junk
I didnt see where you hooked up the electrical eliminating the ECM
There's no ecm in my truck 1986 351w HO