Classical Composer Reacts to Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver (Judas Priest) | The Daily Doug (Episode 274)
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2021
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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm listening to Dreamer Deceiver and Deceiver by Judas Priest from their 1976 album Sad Wings of Destiny. For a Metal Monday, this was much more subdued and laid back than I was anticipating. And, I was extremely surprised at Rob Halford's vocal range. Enjoy!
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This song Ive heard about 5000 times in my life and it still gives me Goosebumps.
Right
Completely agree man
i am still shocked of these critics never listened to JP. Rob has an amazing structured vocal sound, this was an LP from the 70’s “y’all”! His lyrics and sound only got better! Do your homework, my friend, Priest was first than Maiden😂
Absolutely
I'm with you!🤘🏴☠️
4:30 "I haven't quite sensed the power yet but I think we might get there" Ahhhhhhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you! I needed that. 🤘🤘
20 year olds wrote this song and if you really listen you can appreciate the science and genius of it. Brillant.
It's always a lot of fun to watch someone experience the staggering talent of Rob Halford for the first time ☺️
you took the words of my mouth ^^
Sad Wings Of Destiny is a largely overlooked work of genius. It would be great if you could review some more of their stuff; Victim Of Changes, Beyond The Realms Of Death, The Sentinel, Blood Red Skies and Sinner are all Judas Priest classics.
A big second for Beyond the Realms of Death. I'm surprised how few reaction video folks react to that one.
All of them are my favorite too
Don't forget "Dissident Aggressor" either! Amazing, amazing example of early proto-thrash.
A lot of great songs from the other records but, Sad Wings and Vengeance are my two favorites up to Painkiller.. After that I stopped keeping track.. Halford did "Fight" and then The ripper guy came in.. meh.. It definite isnt Priest wo Halford
I think the most over looked JP album is their first.
Best Priest album but you need "Victim of Changes" off the same album to really hear Rob's astounding vocal abilities!
Robs voice has such a beautiful range. The pain he felt in his life really is expressed so lovely in his voice.
This song is literally Judas Priest's Stairway to heaven. It starts slow with vocals and guitar, then slowly builds until the climax. A truly gifted band.
But much better
@@Walamonga1313 And not "satanic"
@@Walamonga1313 That, of course, is a subjective opinion. Both are great, great songs.
Nope, Priests "stairway to heaven was "Run of the Mill" of the Rocka Rolla album....according to the band itself
Doug, thanks for doing Judas Priest Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver. Next Judas Priest I'd recommend would be Victim of Changes off Unleashed in the East or Diamonds and Rust also off Unleashed in the East
Or realms of death :)
Or Freewheel Burning.
Unleashed in the East is the top live lp of the band , epic versions all songs
Victim of Changes is probably their greatest IMO.
"Sinner" from Unleashed in the East is also godlike.
Priest should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame based on this song alone, not counting the hundreds of other great songs they produced. This is the most amazing thing ever recorded, I have loved it since the 1970s.
and they are! I think they read your comment
FUCK the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it is full of clowns.
Run of the mill… you will love it. Judas Priest.
Sad Wings of Destiny has to be my favorite Priest album of all time. Great stuff Doug, thanks for posting.
YES!!! This and sinner are my definitely my favorite priest albums
@@mikelois5297 you're a fucking genius my friend, SFV and Defenders tied for second
Well thank you sir lol... honestly I've never been big on priest only because of the British steel album and painkiller... then I heard sad wings and well... that was that
what about stained class . incredible !!!
love stained class too, but sad wings was my shit
9:55 his off the cuff piano bit perfectly times and mimics the guitar without him ever hearing the song.
This dude is at an insanely high level of musical mastery.
Im a guitarist and vocalist, I have been listening to this…Judas Priests Dreamer Deceiver for 20 years now…it never fails to simply astonish me and realize what we are capable of with music.
Love when Doug plays along. He knows what he is doing.
Your reaction to Halford is priceless....lol Awesome reaction to Priest \m/
Totally missed out on that guitar solo. Tipton's work on that is simply amazing. The technique involved with it is in the Gilmour/Page/Beck/Clapton league. You have to be a guitarist to even begin to appreciate the timing/technique he pulled off with that one.
Tipton is way better than any of them, which is amazing since Gilmour and Beck are also incredible
My favorite lead ❤
The ending of Deceiver was timed well in my oppinion, because the next thing after that is Prelude and then Tyrant. If it had been more drawn out, the dynamics of transition to Prelude would be lost. It is an album that sounds best when listened to from start to beginning.
YOU MUST DO MORE JUDAS PRIEST!!!
I see you have gained interest in Rob Halford's Vocals as well... So keep Judas Priest in mind for future videos... There is still much to Listen to... Such a diverse Carrer this Band has...
Run of the Mill is another masterpiece!
Please!
He would like one of the mill for sure. I agree
One of the greatest Metal albums of all time. Period.
Welcome to Mr. Rob Halford Doug. Judas Priest is a deep ride.
Doug, Rob is still singing extremely well today at 70 yrs old. Still hits the high notes as well as a whole new cool tone he uses today.
Doug you have barely scratched the surface of Robs vocal range.
If I'm not mistaken, Dreamer/Deceiver is the highest note Rob has ever hit in the studio. But Beyond The Realms Of Death and Savior (from his first solo album) are my favorite performances of his.
@@Kylora2112 I think the same, but I read somewhere that the scream (I assume the last scream) in the intro of Savage is his highest, but I don't think so
@@Kylora2112 actually the scream at dissident aggressor is higer
This was from Rob in his 20s, saw him in concert this week and even now at 71 he can still hit those notes very impressive. Unfortunately they didn't play this song as it's one of my favorites but still an amazing show.
My take is that he was a natural these days, and now he has a technical command that is amazing. My guess is that he counteracted the aging of the voice with hard work. I’d say that he has a far better technical ability now than, say, 30 years ago.
@@oliviermalhomme9923I think I would agree. His voice is amazing on Sad Wings and 70s albums generally, but there's a naivety to it as well. He was a natural talent no doubt, and latter developed more technical mastery. I think he's also developed a darker timbre over the years. 70s his voice is very bright, youthful, lighter, but develops a more dramatic timbre I think.
"Here Comes The Tears" is an excellent choice to show how diverse they were in their early days. Also, "Last Rose Of Summer" is another good one.
Yes, definitely Here Comes the Tears.
@@tonyanderton3521 other good songs are dissident aggressor, tyrant, before the dawn, basically anything from the 70's haha. Even their debut album which hasn't gotten too much love has one of my favorite songs on it which is run of the mill
@@Steeler_ Thanks, Steeler. I'm familiar with all their '70s (and later decades) stuff except for Rock Rolla. I've been a fan since I saw them at Reading Festival '75. But if they did Run of the Mill I can't remember. So, I've just played it on YT and, you're right, it is great. The last verse sounds like something they'd develop for Hear Comes the Tears. All the best.
@@tonyanderton3521 awesome to hear from a long time fan! they have so many hidden/forgotten gems in their discography, especially the early ones. slightly unrelated but seeing them still around and playing shows is awesome too.
@@Steeler_ Yeah, been a long-time fan, mate. Priest fans is a world-wide family. I agree with you that their early ones are generally the best. Don't miss out on seeing them in 2023 (if you're in the UK and covid permitting). And there's talk of a new album, too.
A part of me wants to say that the actual title of the song(s) is "Dreamer/Deceiver," where "Dreamer" is the ballad and "Deceiver" is the metal part. Gull Records already messed up pressings of Sad Wings Of Destiny by swapping sides 1 and 2 (even on the CD release...).
"Dreamer" and "Beyond The Realms Of Death" are my favorite Glenn Tipton solos.
Hard agree. Beyond the Realms of Death is a masterpiece of a guitar solo. Powerful tune!
Both are "metal parts". Slow parts and ballads were part of metal since its birth.
Although the term "Heavy Metal" in relation to Rock Music existed in early seventies (even older) but not as a well-defined genre so there was no such thing as "Metal" back when this album came, just good ol' Hard Rock (or Heavy Rock or Downer Rock as it was called back then). What marks the date what we now know as Heavy Metal is British Steel.
@@EmrahUncu Nah, a revisionist and anti-cannon interpretation. Completely untrue! Typical of the extreme metalhead's misunderstandings. Literally all the works written on the subject disagree with you.
@@Hy-jg8ow Did Black Sabbath or Judas Priest call themselves Heavy Metal bands in 1976 (the year in which I was born) ? That's what I am asking. Was that a (like I wrote before) well-defined genre? Bill Ward call themselves Downer Rock. I guess before '78 I don't think any band called themselves "Heavy Metal". But "Heavy Metal as we now know starts with British Steel (1980)". That's how I see it. I'd really like to hear how you see it instead of how my point of view is "revisionist" and "anti-cannon".
He said that's an "impressive vocal range." I like his sense of Humorous understatement😂
By the way, Mr. Doug, if only for yourself, go back and watch the live performance on The Old Grey Whistle Test, which was shot around this time. It's when the band were still finding their way/their sound. Halford hits all those freakishly high-notes so well live. Also, if you want hard/fast, please, do a review of Painkiller. (You won't need a haircut, for a while, after that one.) :)
Amen brother! It is such a journey to go from early Priest all the way to their current offerings. To stay relevant over 50 years is phenomenal. There are some great individual songs from their early albums, but I still think they are best listened to in their entirety. JP has inspired and influenced so many other great bands as well. Enjoy the ride Doug!
I love Painkiller, but I'd say Doug should check out some of the older stuff first.
@@wind-upboy939 Agreeded, but he was asking for 'harder, faster.' Mind you, Exciter would, also, be good for that.
@@JasonSmith-lp6wg Yep, Exciter or The Ripper would be a good step towards Painkiller.
@@wind-upboy939 I'm still a sucker for Dissident Aggressor!
Heard this at 14. Defenders was one of the first albums I'd ever bought after hearing Rock Hard , Ride Free on the radio. BLOWN AWAY. So bought everything by them after that and realized their diversity. But Sad Wings was what cemented them in my brain. And Dreamer Deceiver/Dreamer and Victim of Changes have been at arms length for the last 4 decades. Thank you for your appreciation and comments.
Hey Doug, so glad you finally did some Priest. I would suggest "Beyond the realms of death", wich I consider the epitomy of the power (heavy metal ) ballad.
Best guitar solo ever!
@@tiptoptees5576 True! Forgot to mention that.
Yes that is the first song I ever heard from Priest , and was instantly hooked.
Written by the drummer!
@@r.plante2916 Yes! And the best drummer priest ever had, Les Binks.
Beyond the realms of death, victim of changes, exciter, sinner... Many priest posible choices
Thanks Doug, my favorite lyric, “ he said in the cosmos is a single sonic sound that is vibrating constantly “, also the way it’s sung and placed in the song is masterful. Love your interpretation between the positive and negative. Many of their songs are about the underdog overcoming and are positive as a whole.
First time I heard dreamer, deciver is 41 years ago. My favorit guitar solo and epic track by Judas Priest. Love it even today ❤
I have listened to this record a thousand times and Rob's voice still gives me chills.This LP has never been out of the rotation since I bought in about 1976.
Sad Wings created the template for Priest and built them a live rep but at the time didn't sell many records at all. That came later. So for me it remains a most underrated album, possibly the most underappreciated album in heavy rock.
Good on you for picking up Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin. All 3 of these were a significant influence on Judas Priest, especially early Priest. They got the whole dark and evil sounding vibes and riffs from Sabbath, blues from Zepp and general speed and shred from Purple.
Judas Priest were probably the most important pioneer of speed metal, but not the first. Purple were first with songs like Speed King and Fireball (I believe this is the first instance of double kick drumming in rock/metal).
And yes, Judas Priest themselves were an influence on Iron Maiden, along with the aformentioned bands (especially Purple), and (Ronnie Dio-fronted) Rainbow.
Wow, finally someone who really knows how early metal/hard rock all interconnects! Impressive!
Absolutely 💯 spot on.
Which is odd cause I usually hate everything.
Rich the Ancient Metal Beast
@@Hy-jg8ow I'd say it's pretty common knowledge if you're a pretty big rock/metal fan who doesn't neglect older bands like a lot of younger fans tend to do.
Doug, it does beg a review of Deep Purple who influenced bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, please. Speed King an obvious example.
Speed King and Fireball - speed metal???????!?!?!? jajajajajajajajajaja
Finally someone does the studio version. The live one is great, but this one is by far the best. Rob actually sings in lower register here for a bit and it sounds amazing
One of the best guitar solos of all time imo
Not only your opinion...👍
its amazing that his falsetto verse on this song still never fails to give me chills
4:28 - Here comes that "power" you wanted Doug.....and it's in the form of an unbelievable vocal! Haha....
Doug got "stank face" from a brilliantly done Rob Halford vocal! - Yeah.....these are the "Deep Cuts"....and they're wonderful!
This and Hear Comes the Tears ... two great songs.
Deceiver is my favorite Judas Priest song…. It just has a vibe that’s not explained I just fuckin love it ❤💯
From my early childhood, to this very day, I can't get enough of Judas Priest. The amount of incredible content is beyond impressive.
Finally...the mighty Priest!! 'Beyond The Realms of Death', or 'Victim of Changes' should be next for sure...bring it on!
Well Doug, welcome to the world of the GREAT Rob Halford!!!
I hit the like button 10 times. Yes, this is probably lacking the harmonic complexity to impress a classical composer. But this is one of the best rock songs of all time.
The best JP album.
One of the best albums ever.
I met Rob in a grocery store, in 2005. He was in line in front of me; I recognized his JP tats. Cool, down to earth, regular dude.
When you played piano @ 8:30 it was perfect! Would of been great for an outro....great job sir.
don't know how i missed this one. definitely my "daily doug" pantheon!
The best Priest is the 70's Priest. My personal favorite is Stained Class.
That is a fav of mine too. Not a lame duck song on it.
The single sonic sound set in the cosmos is the vibrating sound wave of the "big bang", start of the universe.
Rob's vocals are rare gems with unworldly range. NEXT try "Victim of Changes", same album.
When I did a commentary for my Top 100 Artists list here's what I wrote for Judas Priest (which I ranked #20): "Looking back, it's hard to overstate how important Priest were in developing heavy metal from its roots in Zeppelin, Sabbath, and Purple into what it would become. They essentially took the dark, heaviness of Sabbath, the speed of Purple, and combined it with the compositional complexity of Zeppelin to create the template for all metal that came after. Priest were also the band that helped bring metal to the mainstream at the start of the 80s, and though they subsequently faltered trying to maintain that mainstream limelight, they eventually found their way back with numerous highlights in the 80s before setting a new standard for speed metal with Painkiller in the 90s."
This track was from their second album, which was a quantum leap in terms of evolution from their first album, which was much more traditional hard rock. A lot of people think that this is the album where almost all of the generation of metal bands after Sabbath/Zeppelin spring from. Personally it's never been among my personal favorites because I really dislike the engineering and think most of these songs sound better live. From their 70s material I much prefer Stained Class, which is probably my favorite JP album overall. What's remarkable is that you can basically hear the entire evolution of metal throughout JP's catalog, and they even kept up with the extreme metal bands of the 80s when they released Painkiller.
As a long time Priest fan I couldn't agree more with this analysis. My favorite thing with Priest is the ever evolving nature of their music. Many fans like 90's priest, Painkiller, some 80's and others 70's. I have always enjoyed the changes over time. My car is on shuffle through all albums and live performances so I get quite a mix.
Priest is a band that sounded SO much better live then on the record. The pace they played songs live was how they should habe been recorded. Best examples are Parental Guidance and Breaking the Law!
They were also inspired by Queen, you can hear that influence in the track "Epitaph".
Sad Wings of Destiny is one of my favourite albums. I really like the final part of "Victim of changes", the way vocals sound in "The ripper", the calmness and spacial feeling of "Dreamer Deceiver", the riffs and Halford's vocals in general. I think the track I like the least is "Genocide", the chorus has a dissapointing lack of energy.
@@ale.2p284 I think the songs on Sad Wings are great, I just don't like the production and think they all sound better live.
Finally judas priest!!! I was wandering this day would never come. One of the greatest metal bands in history, for me the best
Either "Victim of Changes" or "Diamonds And Rust" I think would be interesting for a future Judas Priest reaction.
80’s priest was half and half for me, some good stuff and some not so good stuff. 90’s Priest was essentially a one shot deal with Painkiller (not dismissing Jugulator but it didn’t really leave a mark). 70’s Priest is something else, excellent stuff to be found on those records! I’d definitely go for “Victim of Changes” at some point, but “Beyond the Realms of Death”, “Run of the Mill”, or something from the 80’s like “The Hellion/Electric Eye” would be cool!
Definitely a one and out for the 90s but man that album just crushes from start to finish.
Spot on man!! Some of the absolute best hard rock/metal of the 70's.
Their 2018 album, Firepower, was surprisingly amazing.
Don’t forget Angel of Retribution. I love that album.
Absolutely agreed
Run of the mill from the album Rocks Rolla which came out before that. What a song that is and it really showcases Rob's early vocal acrobatics.
Omg thank you Uncle for your interpretation. OMG I would give anything to have had your Keyboard skills from this. You realize this is from the 70's before Maiden et al??? This Vocal is a Landmark- Iconic Performance!
I thoroughly enjoyed this.
"I haven't quite sensed the power yet..."
Oh my! :-D
I think the song that best showcases Rob's range is Run of The Mill, far less popular but so, so good; low lows to really high highs. Thanks for the video Doug.
Judas Priest is my favorite band of all time. Definitely do Victim of Changes, The Sinner, and Beyond The Realms of Death (Live Versions of all 3). Even today at his age, Rob Halford can really belt it out. I’ve seen them live many, many times and have never walked away disappointed.
Once in a lifetime voice😊
Glenn Tipton is my favorite rock guitar player. His mother taught him to play piano. His solo on Beyond the Realms of Death is genius.
You kept saying "No Way!" I'd shout back Yes way! LOL
Isn't it awesome how Hob Halford sings.
This entire lp is a Masterpiece
Amazing selection. Two of my favourite tunes of all time. Halford here is not from this world...
Simplesmente incrível marcou toda minha adolescência essa canção
The birth of the metal gods, amazing songs on this album
Judas Priest finallyyy!! Looking forward for more JP videos
Now you've done it...entered the realm of Judas Priest. Bravo.
Excellent doug! Next judas priest should be victim of changes! Or diamonds and rust, both from unleashed in the east album! Cheers mate!
Same ones I recommended to Doug.
If you want a similar song from them, check out Run of the Mill from their first album. It also showcases Rob's range.
Sad Wings of Destiny was a full-fledged 80's metal album, long before the 1980's ever reared its head. A monumental entry into the long, raging, history of heavy metal. Tragically went unnoticed during its time (ca. 1976)
Judas Priest was the first band that I saw live in concert. It was enjoyable watching your reaction as Rob built the song and hearing the range of his vocals is always a treat. I have to say that this has always been my favorite song from them. Thanks for your great look at this song.
Thanks for not only dissecting the music but also the lyrics. What they have to say is, to me, just as important as how it is being said.
So sad that Tipton cannot play the same anymore. His solo on Painkiller was badass.
what a freaking masterpiece, thanks for the nice review of something I knew myself for 4 decades, very much appreciated indeed!
FANTASTIC SONG OFF A FANTASTIC ALBUM. LOVE THIS JAM. GREAT GUITAR WORK AND GUITAR SOLOS
THE VOLCALS BY ROB ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
SUCH A BAD ASS JAM
MY FAVORITE
THE METAL GOD. ROB HALFORD
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Sad Wings of Destiny is just a mind blowing experience from beginning to end. 10/10. Almost other worldly. I remember laying on my bed with headphones listening, staring at the cover just being transported.
You never disappoint!!
Epitaph off this Album is a great ballad also ! These two are my favorites !
By far the best review video you have made! Rob Halford is known as "The Metal God" and is considered one of the best Metal vocalists.
Thanks Doug...Love Rob...best metal singer ever. Sounds perfect live too.
Doug I am so happy to see you work this tune(s) out. I have watched many, if not most, of your videos over the past few months and was going to write to you and suggest you taste these two tracks. These two songs are one of my all time favorites not just from Priest, but from pretty much all artists. 30+ years later and a full listen still gives me goosebumps. I love watching you react to these songs, applying your vast knowledge of music and your objective ear. I am so glad you enjoyed what I consider some of the best audio selections around. Thank you.
At last, Doug. I was waiting for the moment when you would find Judas :P
This is such a dreamy song it's beautiful. The lyrics and the tune seamlessly take us on a journey
You did many Iron Maiden. Surprised it took this long for Judas Priest. They are as good as Iron Maiden. Both are amazing and I know Rob. Such an amazing singer. One of the best in rock ever!
Love the Priest 👍 not long now for 150 K 👏
My favorite metal band of all time. I am wondering what kind of reaction would have on a Painkiller vocals when Rob peels his skin of his face.
Great song, great album, great band....the greatest metal band....
Hi! New subscriber from Spain. It must be amazing to have the ability to play the piano over a song at first listening. Wow, love you. Your approach sounded gorgeous. You shocked me.
Hey Doug, Judas Priest Is my favorite metal band. I'm 74. Love your insight Y'all.
A cara dele de surpresa 😲 foi ótima!
Rob é magnífico! Esse álbum todo é sensacional 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
Sim. Como eu gostaria de assistir ao vivo antes que eles cheguem ao fim.
Did we just make a Priest fan... Hell yea
Great comment on one of my favourite songs from JP. You got it to the point. Thank you for your work on YT.
Yes it’s about time, Victim of changes is a must. Love your channel
Please listen to Beyond the Realms of Death and Victim of changes by Judas Priest. So much fun to watch your reaction to Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver. Thanks
This is the song that got me invested in Judas Priest. I mean, the whole Sad Wings of Destiny album is brilliant, but this was the song that I LOVED and still love right now