Peter Windsor: How Mercedes really SABOTAGED Lewis Hamilton! | The F1 Hour
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- In this interview with @peterwindsor we discuss why how Mercedes really sabotaged Lewis Hamilton, why Hamilton is still in his prime, and are Mercedes favouring George Russell? Peter Windsor discussing what F1 can do to have more young F1 drivers in F1 and driver silly season. Are Haas missing an opportunity as the only North American team in F1 in 2024 and why Max Verstappen's last 10laps at the Canadian Grand Prix might be the best he has ever driven!
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Is Lewis still in his PRIME PRIME?
Sadly I have doubts about that. He is still one of the best drivers on the grid by a long, long way.
But I do have doubts that he could win a championship in a H2H on equal terms against one of what I consider the “golden trio” of Max, George and Charles.
I think he is, his weaknesses are just being exposed, although they aren't that significant, the data driven sim racing generation will surpass him. His off the track endeavours distract him from putting everything into F1.
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@@Visual_Ghoul I don’t disagree with that. I don’t think what he does off track is hampering his performances. But where I do agree is that if the other drivers are indeed doing more sim work, staying at the factory longer etc, they are going to find those little performance advantages that Lewis might be missing.
@@gameofender4463 you are a GR fan, one of the greatest probably, why would you comment on this...
Mr. Peter Windsor's words on Lewis have eased my soul.
Finally, Peter talks some sense into Cameron's ageist comments 😂
THIS!
2 gentlemen of our sport. It's an honour and privalage to be part of this conversation. Thank you
George is not a gentleman he’s a little female dog. Situation: 1, Lewis is quicker and ahead, George “😢 isn’t it better for “the team” if Lewis slows down to keeps me in drs”
2, lewis is quicker and behind, “😢 why am I being attacked by my own teammate”
You need a special needs school if you think George can stand toe to toe with sir Lewis 🤪
To this point, I had never given Peter Windsor any of my time. Not that I dislike him at all, just has my regularly scheduled programming, so to speak. His tirade about the situation with young drivers, made me an instant fan. Well said, Mr Windsor. Well said.
I totally agree with you & what Peter said about the need for greater support needed for the talented young driver opportunities to showcase their talent & possibly assist the best of them financially if they need that sort of backing. The idea of a separate F1 race in "previous year's F1 cars" sounds like a brilliant idea! (Maybe try that in F2???). Also maybe Peter should be voted onto FIA advisory board or something along those lines? He seems to have a good feeling & passion for the wellbeing of the sport... I think that is what is needed right now. He is right about 'money vs the spirit of racing' - we seem to be losing the latter & that is sad😢
@@JoKeet1 F1 has always been a sport of greed but Liberty seems to have decided to take it to the next level. No shame.
I disagree with his Lewy fascination but the man has lived inside the paddock for decades and is an expert
Peter Windsor: one of the OGs left
It’s hard to say there’s another better F1 series. These two need more content for us all.
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Yes.. 😊@@martingonzalez2850
I'm not a Lewis fan and I have nothing against him. Anyone who thinks Lewis can't deliver at the highest level anymore is a fool. Unfortunately he needs a great car like anyone does.
A great driver can avoid shortcomings of the car, lewis can't this mean others can get more out the car.
You are, obviously, a Lewis fan. And typically infer that because George regularly beats your idol your idol has a inferior car.
@@edijzerman5880 last year he was 3rd behind the redbulls. Who got more out of their cars?
@@daveruda Why only the last season matter? How about the previous one? How about this one? Don't even try to respond, I already know all Lewis's fans excuses by now , you lot have an endless bag of that .
@@agraiell5048 in other words facts dont care about your feelings
Speaking about Francois Hardy...man you got love this guy
FACTS are Facts... One of the FEW who Recognize the man's Skill at Actually "RACING"!!
Peter was taking aim at Bearman if he intended to or not. His dad bought kart engine companies to help his kid
Hamilton's dad pumped a huge amount of money into his kid. Nitro RC cars (an adult's toy) aged 5 years old.
Thank you Mr. Windsor speaking honestly about Lewis and still being as great as he is.
Biased little fan boi.
Peter, the F1 wisdom king
100pc
This channel is for advanced F1 fans. F1 connoisseurs if you will. I've been watching for 17 years, my brother in law that's been watching for 3 struggles to understand these points of views when we watch it. When I explain the history behind some of the references these two make, he's putting the puzzle together on how messed up F1 is at the moment.
Big smiley face Case. 😃
At the moment? Been watching off and on for 50 years and can't remember when it wasn't messed up at some level.
Remember when Bernie wanted to ban the fans!
so you missed the 05 us grand prix. definitely missed the fisa-foca war. etc. you are less a connoisseur and more a footy trip on a pub crawl.
They make some good points but comparing crashgate to what happened in canada is wild
I don't drink but I'd love to sit in a Pub with these 2 Lads and quaff a Guiness and talk F1. Cheers !
There would be a pub fight with me there.
Or Lewis was the only driver that perfectly joined a team giving him rocket ships for that long…..
Seb got his championships with Red Bull then they fell off.
Max has been the same with Red Bull
Now Red Bull is falling off.
Mercedes delivered rocket ships for years and years
Peter is just fabulous in his delivery, i can tell how annoying it is when he hears rumors and idiotic chattering when it comes to sabotage etc. I agree with him, but there are some shady things that teams do to their drivers.
Daniel would’ve been Max’s Bottas. In hindsight, that’s better than what happened, but it’s good that he tried to stay a #1 driver. Unfortunately for him, Lando turned out to be much better and that’s what really ended his career.
This Pérez and his car damaged discussion is absolute bollocks.
There have been plenty times cars in the same or worse condition trying to make it back to the pits and Red Bull asking him to try and make it back is what EVERY other team would do in the same conditions.
The Mercedes F1 teams social media started saying Russell this Russell that and Russell won the first trophy for team when Lewis had. They were quickly put right by Lewis fans. It all escalated and unfollowed all Lewis’s account and started following all Russells. Is this how a team like Mercedes behaves to an employee and the guy who bought them a lot of silver. Very petty to be honest.
Firstly, no they weren’t making a overdramatic deal about George.
But more importantly they weren’t “put right” by Lewis’s fans. Mercedes was right when they said George got them the fist real trophy as George got the team the first real podium of the season.
Lewis’s P2 in the sprint in China. Is NOT a real podium. Not a real trophy. I believe they got a medal or a plaque. That’s not a real trophy.
The only ones being petty are that vocal minority of Lewis’s larger fanbase that whine, cry, moan and complain every little time Merc pay any attention to George. It’s pathetic.
@@gameofender4463good luck 🍀 in life man. Trophy is trophy. A medal is also a “trophy” silly!
Medal: : a piece of metal often resembling a coin and having a stamped design that is issued to commemorate a person or event or awarded for excellence or achievement
Trophy: something gained or given in victory or conquest especially when preserved or mounted as a memorial
They’re are literally the same thing! So Lewis got the FIRST TROPHY!
Make a bigger deal out of this only because you’re a hater. 🎉
@@wilton999 😂. The audacity to call me a hater when you’re also just wrong. Lewis’s medal for P2 and George’s TROPHY aren’t the same.
Look at what they got. George’s is the only one that looks like a REAL trophy.
@gameofender4463
Like your love fir George. 🤣
None of the presenters even list Oscar's sprint win as a real win. Sprint is a joke to make money, its not a real F1 race and not a real trophy. Oscar's win was fantastic but its only a sprint, Lewis's had a medal for race thats not a real F1 race format.
Dont be daft to think the argument is about its physical appearance and the space it occupies in one of the other replies. Cmon, be better.
Red Bull also didn't want more images of Prezes' floor to spread through the paddock!
I said the same thing ... Lewis has nothing to prove n won't push a car he's not happy with whereas Russell is trying to make a name for himself n more willing to take risks n push it to or even past "normal" limits
He has a terrible legacy in anything but best cars. Even in the best car of all time he only managed 5 consecutive wins.
@@richy69ify let me see ýou beat Alonso then talk your shit - there's a reason Alonso ain't Max's teammate
Yeah because of George pushing & taking risk on that worst car Mercedes went too far with that car concept and undermine Lewis's feedback
@@anishs9699 LOL
@@me2ontube he isn’t the one getting paid millions to do it. Also, “He won’t push a car he’s not happy with” is a gentle way of saying he is underperforming.
I love Peter Windsor. He has solid knowledge and he is not tossed by the opinions of chatters that have arrived to the sport because they can read screens.
Roll on Ferrari for Lewis, I'd like to see him put 2021 right.
2021 he had the most powerful car and made 3 rookie errors whilst Verstappen lost 50 points due to clumsy Mercedes drivers . Aint gonna happen.
@@richy69ify delusional fan
@@MrGtubedude
He was lucky to still be in the title race. Hope that simplifies things.
@@richy69ify it’s motor racing, newey himself said rb had the better car, and f1 didn’t follow their own rules. Plain and simple
@@richy69ifyHe was a genius to be in the race against Verstappen in a vastly superior car up to the last round-where in effect, the title was match fixed against him.
My son showed promise as a 7 year old in Karting. I looked in to the path to a career and decided it was better to start an education fund for him.
95% it was the right thing
Great interview, Cameron. Mr. Windsor is a sage and has some very good experience to bring to the table when it comes to expressing his opinions and the perspective he brings to the subjects you brought up is very interesting to listen to. Thanks, Cam. 👍🏻
Mercedes made LH champion 6 times but every time things don't go his way he starts blaming others. He suggested the team supported Rosberg and sabotaged him and now he leaves the team when the car is not the fastest. Who's betraying who? He jumps teams in hopes to get the fastest car and drive from pole to first each race. Look at his performance without the fastest car and look at MSC's performance with a slow car - it's night and day. He's good but only in certain conditions.
You are so wrong..... no athlete / sportsman ha as that type longevity and success with a personality as described by you.... LH always takes responsibility for his performances, especially the bad ones... your assessment is woefully poor
Anyone who thinks AMG is sabotaging Lewis needs their head checked
It's ridiculous to think mercedes are sabotaging Lewis! Absolutely crazy. He was right there...its just super tight! So much so a gush of wind or distant tow may make the difference!
People keep saying they need to get more young people into F1, but that means someone else needs to lose their seat! Can't have 10 new drivers a year....Only 20 seats and getting a chance is HARD. It's just the nature of it
Love seeing someone with as much history and knowledge of the sport as Pete calling out F1.
F1 has gotten so expensive to maintain that if new drivers aren't bringing in top dollars with sponsors it's very hard for you to enter the sport. This is why we still have guys like checo and ricciardo in the grid because they're easy to sell.
Red Bull bringing Perez home should be extra punished??? What about LH finishing in 3 wheels the race, nobody protestend then? Butter on. your head Peter?
Russell beats Hamilton, so how good is Russell?
Couldn’t have put it better Mr Windsor
Isn't the problem.....there's more drivers than seats?
These men needs to take over the YT F1 world.
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Peter is that guy! 😃
@@CameronF1., you both are!👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👩🏻🦰💜💛
Insightful, fresh, and honest chat. Keep these coming, Cameron.
Here's your solution Peter:
Each team kicks in cash according to CC standings. Ex. $10,000,000 total.
The winner of F2 gets a $1,000,000 1 year contract.
Any team can take that driver and the $10,000,000.
Wow very enlightening conversation. I had no clue about the fundraising aspect of being a f1 driver
Sorry Peter, but that's nonsense. Sure there were cases 35 or 40 years ago where this is said to have happened, but that was a completely different F1, where not a single team except Williams had a wind tunnel... and hardly any data... Today, where everything, but everything is recorded, this is not possible without clear evidence, but more importantly - what would Mercedes gain from it? And why would they do it! Because they are offended, can Hamilton do it? Because they want to please their new number 1 driver? Ridiculous! F1 teams are highly professional and drivers coming and going is normal. Mercedes would be hurting themselves because they would lose millions in money because of a worse result in the WCC. And they would do lasting damage to their reputation. And all for what? Because they are offended by Hamilton? Because they want to please their new No. 1 driver? Yeah, no, that's clear... The simple fact is that the ability to judge distances at high speeds diminishes with increasing age in every human being and therefore also in every F1 driver. That's why fighter jet pilots have to "retire" at the age of 45 or are no longer allowed to fly fighter jets. Hamilton is almost 40 and this ability has already diminished in him too, which simply has an effect on performance in F1 and costs a few tenths because you no longer hit the corner entry or exit or the braking point 100% or are not good enough "on the pedal". So it is simply the case that it has become slower. And not that Mercedes is sabotaging it. That would make no sense at all. An F1 team doesn't throw millions out of the window and risk its reputation because of such nonsense. I know you're a Hamilton fanboy Peter, but someone like you should be a bit more professional, because you know perfectly well that it doesn't make any sense. Just like F1 drivers slow down with age. Even an Alonso is slower today than he was at 25, just like a Schumacher was slower at 41 than he was at 25, or a Prost or Mansell. And a Hamilton is the same. What's more, it's not as if anything unusual is happening... Russell already beat him in his first year as a complete newcomer to the team. Which raises the question of whether Hamilton was ever as good as some people think, because being beaten by a rookie in his "own" team... but either way, Hamilton just slows down, like any driver.
Until ppl vociferously call for the likes of Stroll, Sargeant, Zhou, and KMag out, I’m tired of hearing about lack of opportunity for young drivers. Then you have the same ppl pushing Bearman, who by no means deserves a seat on a performance basis. Ridiculous.
Today's a great day. After a long day I get to watch this and the pod 1 after the other
Extraordinary F1 analysis, thank you!
I'm sorry, even a 5 lap old medium would have been better
My pleasure as ever!
Cameron, in a future podcast with Peter, could you ask him to tell some stories about George Harrison? I heard Peter say on one of his lives last year that he was friends with the Beatle and knew him well. George Harrison loved Formula One.
F1 has enough money that Liberty Media could run / fund 2 extra older spec cars each race with which to showcase drivers waiting in the wings and have local advertising / sponsorship specific to that race / region / city.
There could be a pool of 10 drivers that could be rotated through 20 races each season.
What a platform that would be to showcase talent and forge a career in F1 or another world class category.
Good idea but it wouldn't work because nobody would really watch it, all the extra engineers and team members that would have to be hired and f1 is obsessed about sustainability so they won't want to have to fund a series that would bring hundreds of tyres to a race and all the freight costs too.
Theres a history of Honda sabotaging for their favoured driver. Peter said that Piquet was favoured over Mansell.
Teams or sponsors have always had favorites but team managers tend to be professional enough to not let it be an issue. One everyone seems to forget (including these 2), and probably the biggest of them all is Ron Dennis openly favoring Lewis over FA, which cost mclaren a title. Mansell was well known to complain a lot, Prost also claimed the same - while he was partnered with the fastest of them all (how can you ever quantify Senna getting better kit when he was way faster anyway?). Now Lewis is making the claim being he's moving to the big seat. Lewis has been beaten by slower drivers than Russel - Button and Rosberg, with those he just blamed the team in general or his personal life.
@@r200ti Honda were supportive of both Piquet and Senna, thats why their teammates were branded as complainers. F1 always has been about who is willing to back you.
Pretty funny when Mansell needed the spare, set up for Piquet, and beat him in it
I recently listened to the entire radio conversation involving Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes. Here is the conversation between him and Bono.
Just before the last pit stop, Bono asked Lewis to BOX and suggested hard tires "IF HE IS OKAY WITH THAT".
Hamilton said, "How long was there to go? Why would you put hards on?"
Bono said, "It's all we have left, and we have 16 laps remaining."
Lewis: "There are no softs?"
Bono was hesitant in his speech and said, "Aaah, we think that would be too risky! A bit too far to go."
Lewis: "We don't have another medium?"
Bono: "Negative," "the hards don't look bad at all."
Lewis: "If you think it's right, mate."
Bono: "Yep. We've got a free stop, so we'll take it."
If that is not sabotage from Mercedes, I don't know what is. They clearly did not want Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton overtaking Russell. As if the softs are not capable of doing 13 laps, let's even say 20 laps. I just can't wait for him to leave Mercedes now.
It was 12 laps when the safety car came in, so around 11 racing laps, the softs definitely would have done those laps with the low fuel, the evidence is bare but people refuse to see it.
@@chiefdenis those softs were used softs. I am not lewis fan but i do think Merc is favouring Russell over lewis too much that sometimes it raises serious questions. And this tire thing of putting hard over softs is not an example of it. I would say putting tires with lower blanket temperature during qualifying is an example of how merc might be ruining lewis
And still, the dumb tin foil hat brigade think they know better. Go away and stick to your, we never went to the moon theorising.
@@AP-nb9kv i hope you know they've done over 20 laps on softs on these new gen tires
@@chiefdenis yes they would have done but the performance advantage would only be for first few laps after which the performance drops like stone. You have to manage a lot. In hindsight u can say that soft would have survived but during race it would have been huge risk compared to rewards u would get.
Now Peter, talk to us about USF1…
On another note I do enjoy you and Mr. Windsor pod. You guys keep it up.
Great discussion. I wonder whether the ban on testing impedes new drivers breaking into F1 - because a mediocre driver with 200 hours behind the wheel might be enough better than a great driver with 90 minutes in an F1 car to justify keeping them on
“Amen!!! Preach Mr. Windsor. Lewis will indeed have his day again.
Fingers crossed, Not.
This is must watch content!
Love the drama with the intro music. man I was on my seat with those strings....
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Thank you , Windsor
the answer to the question CameronF1 set up as his clickbait intro is at 31:48
Further to the point, literally at 33:48 "nahhh, I don't think you can say it was sabotage. that's rather childish/rubbish, isn't it, people saying that..."
this interview is too good for you to resort to this sort of clickbait/lying bullshit.
Drogovich has very rich parents
Peter is right…Sabotage is an excuse for getting Smoked 🤣🍻👍
Cant wait to see team lh trying to invent why should ferrari sabotage granpa
The lack of opportunity for F2 success stories getting into F1 is woeful. Let's face it there are at least 4 drivers who are just plain not or no longer worthy of a drive in F1. One has a top drive. Taken at the other extreme and we have a kid who is getting a top drive next year who hasn't done his apprenticeship. Both extremes are wrong, as wrong as Sainz being out of a drive.
Love the Francoise Hardy story at the top!
Loved Peters analysis of Russell racing intent; '...I'm going flat out and I'm going to beat Lewis...' Really sums up George's racing style. Love listening, as always. Thanks.
I love the intros to these, very suspenseful. Well done!
Thank you!
Great podcast!
Thank you Lokki. Glad you enjoyed! 🙏🏾
Very humble and honest assessment of F1
Love these chats - @peterwindsor I always learn so much from you listen to all the comments you make from past to present what is there not to like - I always find myself listening and jumping on Google to check out some of the people you reference - what an amazing life you have been party to - possible one of the riches times in motor sport for characters etc - @CameronF1 - loving your style, velvet like voice - you should approach Guinness to do some voice overs on their adverts - what a match.
Like you are Hamilton fans we cannot wait until the 8th title happens - like with Tiger Woods coming back and winning and surely there will be a film about that, Lewis securing an 8th title for Ferrari would just be made for the movies.... thanks for all the time and effort you put into these ;-)
Peter believes that if every element conspires to aid Ricciardo, he's a good driver!
Otherwise? 7:46
Perez going back to the pits is unsafe and unacceptable? How about Lewis winning with three wheels? There is no issue at all.
Nice of Peter to mention Francoise Hardy -she was great in 'Grand Prix'
As Peter said it is pathetic that the young talents are blocked by old drivers or rich sons!
Just stumbled across your channel, really enjoying the content!
Warms my heart, that. Thank you so much.
The SUPERIOR Race Pace, is what's Matters, (Along with "RACECRAFT" !!)
Look but never stare. Very fatherly advice!
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Naaaaahhhh gents would be virtual safety car if Perez parked his car somewhere safe near point where his car would be quickly behind the barriers. And then even with a safety car Max could prep his tires again precisely plus no immediate DRS. You’re talking nonsense
Peter Windsor has become the EF Hutton of F1 when he speaks people listen 👈🏾 yeah Camron Thanks for that !!
Who's got a spare billion to start a second division in F1?
Lewis said that his tires were not pre-heated to the correct temperature by the garage technicians for qualifying...? That they were 2C - 3C lower than it should be.
we don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, it's BAD.
@@davepastern he can see his temps on the dash, i believe him if he says his temps were lower than they should have been, 💯
@@chiefdenis well if that is the case, Mercedes has some explaining to do, especially if this has been a constant in 2024.
Prime example of a little bit of truth, a lot of narrative. He just said the temps were 2-3 degrees lower. He did not blame or mention garage technicians not heating them correctly. The drop can be caused by a number of things.
@@tadeyemi8802 not quite true. The technicians in the garage are responsible for heating the tyres to the operating temperatures. If they aren’t at the right temperature when Lewis drives out of the garage then they failed to do their jobs.
Does the cost cap make teams more reluctant to hire rookie drivers just in case crash damage financially hurts thsir season?
110%! Also, Development for 2026 Car Starts January 1st 2025…Teams want at Least 1 Driver who can Help Develop the 2026 Car in the Sim etc…For Example, VCARB are EXTREMELY HAPPY with Daniel’s Car Development Direction, which Yuki is also benefiting from…Yuki from ALL Reports has NO idea about anything about Car Development at all!
Could the risk of damage and $ because of the cost cap making the teams chill of getting a driver without, according to them, real f1 racing experience.
I agree about DRS
Zhou is family money. Otherwise every driver is a pay driver as they bring in sponsor tying their good name to a given driver. In that sense a Perez brings in 90m, but that is based on performance that his sponsors believe in.
I didn't realise this Jay. 😂😭
I’d be so happy to see LH get the 8th title. But as time goes on it’s only going to get harder and harder.
I will be glad if some youngster win it for his fist time.
@@pietervanbreda4360 I’ll be really happy if it was George or Charles or Oscar too.
How can you put general Ricardo in the same breath is Logan sergeant. There's definitely guys that shouldn't be in formula 1 and it starts with Lance stroll Danny Ricardo should have a shot he is better than people are giving him credit for he's going to get it together. You really just needs the right car
On one hand you don’t want up and coming drivers passed up, you criticize MB for signing Russell ! .??
Peter Windsors idea is great hope the powers that be go for it maybe F1 reserve drivers mixed with top five woman’s drivers in a ten car championship in 2 year old cars. It wouldn’t detract from F1 just like Formula E hasn’t
Hahaha I remember when Alonso was complaining about sabotage when he was with Lewis at McLaren
Everyone said Alonso was over reacting
Looks like now Lewis is in Alonso’s place
Is Lewis over reacting??
God Tier, as always!
Thank you sir
Love the very tribal suspense music in the intro … nailed it
It used to be that the young talents got to do the testing. Of course, that was before testing was pretty much banned.
Wasn't there a leak from some engineer in Mercedes about the Sabotage being real, the email even claims that it is dangerous or life-threatening to put someone on cold or tires like that
Class acts! Per usual
I am 55 yrs old and never got a chance to even drive a go-cart. LOL Such is life.
lewis chose to leave so yes of course the team wont give him all the inside info to take to ferrari
Can't judge Lewis's form on head to head qualifying with George, his strength is race pace and George is Mr.Saturday. If anything Hammer had to up his game on a Saturday. We'll see by end of next season!
Skulduggery is part of f1
Watch Schumacher's Monaco pole in 2012.. Then ask yourself the question, is it a driver being past it? Or a lack of desire or a car that can't perform? Because what ever it was that day the "old boy" had it in spades.
No No We in South Africa we dont have bugdet, Corruption is Rive, we need water and frequent Power Suply/ Electricity
I know affluent areas 100pc, but I think the track needs significant investment in its infrastructure is the point being made here
Max deserved the 2021 title. If his tyres and others had not blown up in Baku when he was leading Checo and Hamilton by a country mile he would have won 2021 even if he was 2nd or 3rd in the last race of the year. Of course Hamilton helped by messing up the restart so badly he didn't get any points in that race.
He got lucky in the last race of 2008 when Glock's Toyota conked it on the last stretch enabling Hamilton to become 5th and win the title. Don't forget that was the year when Massa lost the race in Singapore thanks to the confusion caused by Flavio Briatori's crashgate. Massa was robbed of the championship