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I've not finished watching the video fully yet, but just a reminder that apparently you do NOT have to power the system off/on to change games. Just hot swap them as it was designed for this so you don't have to wait for the boot startup delay each time.
@@markrotondella4689 Yes as it is against what we did back in the day. But apparently this 2600+ was designed to hot swap the games like this. Otherwise you have to wait for the boot up of the console each time which, takes much longer. So they designed it to shut off the game when you remove the cartridge and when you load up a different game, it will read what was just put in and restart the emulation with the new game.
Nice work doing such a thorough review! And I appreciate your editing style :) I suspect the keypad controllers don't work because they require the joystick ports to set some lines as input and some as output. It may very well be that the 2600+ joystick ports are only capable of input, not output.
I wasn’t sure if I should preorder the enhanced edition of Berzerk but after watching your review of the game I’m glad I did. The voicing samples and the diagonal firing from the robots make it feel closer to the arcade version
This is the best review/look at the Atari 2600+ I've seen. You checked everything including 7800 games and two button controllers. Strange that the Sega Genesis pads don't work as they work on any original 2600. I hope they fix that with firmware.
Just saw you on Adam the Woo's channel. I do love me some retro systems! I still have my 1979 Atari 2600 from my childhood, which my father stored in a closet for 2 months before Christmas and, of course, I already knew he bought it. I feigned ignorance when I opened the present, and he still doesn't know that I did that. I'm 50 years old this year. Dad is 85! :) Thought I'd give you a sub.
I don't think i got the Atari but a cheaper imitation system which had the atari games built in. Not sure what it was called but it had a cowboy on the box?
@@GregsGameRoom No, that info is just plain wrong. The grooves on the switch shafts are from a turning tool made by machining it on a CNC lathe. They are simply feed lines made by the tip of a turning tool. Very common on all items made on a lathe. I should know, I'm working as a CNC programmer/CNC Machinist/1st Class Machinist/Toolmaker since 1986. Knurling is something completely different since there are two grooves at an angle and cross over in a X or diamond shape along the length of the shaft. Although nowadays knurling isn't very common. If you have an old center punch you might see knurling on the part that you hold or on a barbell / weight bars, grips of darts or a mechanical pencil, to name a few.
Thanks for the video. would love to see a further teardown showing those extra PCB's - it's clear that the bottom one (two) for the switches, the middle one the cart reader and rear connectors. I bet some enterprising individual could easily create a replacement Blue PCB for a seameless raspberry pi (or other board) based Atari2600+ ......Imagine a CM4 (or forthcoming CM5) adaptor that just manipulates the data lines on the two header sockets on that processor board.! Is there much more space in the case?
The system has a Rockchip ARM CPU, so it's already essentially a Raspberry Pi. The two hacks would be: * Load custom firmware * Add WiFi With that, you could emulate a much larger library of games. Any game that works with a one-button joystick should be playable, whether for the Atari 2600, Atari 7800, Atari 800, C64, or even arcade machines should be playable. Just have the firmware have a load-from-WiFi option if there's no cartridge inserted. If adding WiFi doesn't work, custom firmware could use a cartridge with a SD card.
Excellent full review, by far the best I've seen yet. Watched a few 10/15 min "reviews" that just don't cover enough. This video is how it should be done! Will definitely be checking out more.. oh and recognise you from the Daily Woo.. lol unrelated to this video 😅 Great work mate.
Holy crap, thank you! I finally found a video where someone plays Xevious on the 2600+! I bought the game the other day and I was worried that it wasn’t compatible, but now I know my cartridge just doesn’t work. Thanks!
Thank you for the detailed review and tear down I really wanted to love this system but already owning an 2600/7800 with mods, Retron77 with cfw and the newest Flashback. I just can’t justify the cost only for its looks.
37:14 The flash is the Toshiba TC58NVG1S3HTA00 TSOP48 chip. It's a 2G-bit (256MByte) NAND flash ROM. It's very curious why they used such a large amount of storage to hold what boils down to an ARM port of a Atari 2600 emulator and not much else. Clearly they are not using the best and most recent emulator code otherwise more games would work. Also, am I the only person who noticed the board has a space for a microSD card slot.... hmmmm ^_^
I don’t know if anyone addressed this elsewhere, but my recollection is that the keypad for Star raiders is plugged into player two and the joystick is in player one
Excellent review. I was making a list of questions to ask as I watched the video, but you answered them all! Obviously my first question was whether Ninja Golf worked.
Good review. When I do my own, I might put a link to your review in the description because so far your review has been the most comprehensive and is the only one that has all that video testing which I can’t duplicate because I don’t have nearly as many cartridges nor do I have the 7800 stuff.
I thought not all of them had the switch. When I bought mine on the Bay of E, I looked for one that had a picture showing the switch. But besides that, does the 2600 even support that kind of input? I thought only my 5200 had actual trakball analog input. For the 2600 - AFAIK - only the paddles (and the 360 spinning driving version) provided analog input. Hmmm…
To me, aside from the system itself, good quality new authentic joysticks and paddle controllers being available again is good for people who own an original 2600.
Thanks for the great video. I am curious if you ever got Smurf to work? I seem to be having the same issue you were with it and the cart was thoroughly cleaned.
Best thing to clean cartridge contacts with is hoppe's 9 powder solvent. Just dip a qtip into the bottle, wipe on both sides, get a clean qtip and scrub like you would with alcohol. hoppe's 9 is a copper oxide solvent, and that is what you are cleaning. I used it on all my old cartridges about 10 years ago. I still haven't had to clean them. Just make sure you don't drip solvent into the cartridge, you don't want to dissolve the pcb traces, just the corrosion layer on the edge connector. In other words, be frugal with the solvent.
You have a very nice collection of games, especially the 7800 ones. Thank you for trying out so many games. I was very concerned about Popeye and Stargate. Thanks for confirming.
You can usually either take a picture of the chip info and put it into Google lens, it will tell you about those chips. Or just type in the info on the chips and research and then find out about the hose chips. There has got to be some kind of schematic out there for you to modify the 2600+ boards for some kind of additional or augmenting?
I'm curious if you plug the USB into a PC, is the device recognised? Does anything happen if you plug in a powered USB C hub (eg maybe another way to connect HDMI via a hub with a HDMI adapter)?
@@GregsGameRoomEh? They are just glued on. Lift them up and open it then put the pads back on and they will stick. Or add some glue and stick them back on. It's not difficult. Otherwise change your description to "PARTIAL REVIEW" LOL! Come on dude we need to know if they are good quality or the same junk from 1977.
@@g4z-kb7ct ackshually in 1977 the heavy sixer came with CX-10 joysticks. The CX-40 came in 1978 with the light sixer. The OG joystick has different internals and an actual spring inside! Plus the outside does not say “Top” and the end of the stick on the very top has an indent where an Atari sticker would’ve been. Mine no longer have the stickers and it seems nearly all have lost the sticker. Oh well. As you can imagine, the light sixer and it’s joysticks were cheaper to manufacture.
@@nickpalance3622The original joysticks are well documented. The question is what are these new joysticks like inside. Looks like no-one has the balls to take a look inside. It's the same old story, if you want something done right do it yourself. I just ordered my own 2600+ and I will open the joysticks when it arrives.
Will the enhanced berzerk work on an original Atari 2600? The sounds and stuff? Bought a fully refurbished 2600 with power LED and av composite mods and I don’t really want to get the 2600+ since my 2600 looks n runs minty
It looks really good in terms of being a replica, but I am just holding off to see if there are some official or community updates that will really make this into a must-have.
The 16:94:3 is important if you want to hook it up via HDMI adapter to a 4:3 CRT or 4:3 LCD screen. When doing that via HDMI you would actually set it to 16:9 and then in theory it should look notrmal on 4:3 then as it will be desqueezed.
Great Video! Hopefully they get some firmware updates for the compatibility issues. It will be interesting to see what the community does with this as they made the Retron 77 WAY better with the Stella Emu update, but still had issues with Jittery paddles. Unless you got the Hyperkin one, but that one was real stiff. Hoping this does well and maybe in the future they will put out a FPGA 7800 pro system console, one can hope and dream.
@@GregsGameRoom yea. Will definitely keep an eye out to see what happens with it and will get it when there is a better firmware or mod build out. They need to get the 7800 compatibility sorted out for the homebrews at the very least.
Greg thanks for the review mind arives on fri cant wait, Been looking forward to this since i pre ordered it..Been buying up old games just to have them..Thanks for testing an now i know what will work..Cant wait go atari..Looks like there making a come back..
So how close did the paddles come to playing like the original paddles on an original Atari? After all these years do we have something near perfect, yet?
You suggested that future firmware updates might fix some of the compatibility issues. The catch is that there's no obvious method to update the firmware. There's no network. I suppose they could issue a firmware update cartridge that you could order, but only if the current firmware is designed for that. And while you mentioned that you expected one game to fail because of custom chips in the cartridge, Ballblazer has a Pokey sound chip, and that works, so if it's one where they detect a known game, they can emulate the special cartridge features. But there are a lot of those, so it's not surprising that they only got the best known ones.
My 2600+ just arrived. I opened the joystick and it's using a really clean nice design with conductive rubber pads and carbon-coated PCB pads like most modern controllers. So there's no old style dome switches in there and they should last many years without touching. If anyone already has a real 2600 and needs a new joystick buy this new one (sold separately I think) because it plays identical to the original but is better quality.
I saw the 2600+ at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo and thought it looked super cute! Loved the mini form factor. I was however disappointed to learn it doesn't support a majority of modern homebrews.
The OG 4 switch moves all the plug ins up so this is actually correct i dont care for it also but you have a great collection if these carts are CIB its a big money collection if not i recommend looking for MT box and completing the more valuable ones. Good job on the review also did you run out to buy any games? there seems to be a rush of bidders now on everything Atari.
oh thank god you play four player paddle games!!! thanks for testing that no one else has thought to do it for some reason. :D :D :D :D :D I had that silver joystick back in the day. :P
So the three chips appear to be a Rockchip RK3128 which is a low power CPU/GPU system on a chip thingy, the H5TC4G63CFR is 512 MB of RAM and the third chip is 256 MB flash storage.
The OG one probably had Velcro to stick to a surface so it's easier to move the joystick with how stiff it starts out at lol. Also no power brick but if you hook up to an HDTV, the USB slot on the back of the TV should be enough power for the console, saving on a wire going down to an outlet and finding a usb power brick.
I pre-ordered mine and am looking forward to it. Shame to hear that Pitfall 2 isn't running (which was to be expected) and the Sega Genesis Controller isn't supported, which I didn't expect. Can you tell if PAL and NSTC games run with correct colors on the 2600+? That would be great. I come from Germany and the PAL games here are often significantly more expensive than the NSTC versions. Thanks for your great review 👍😊 Holger
11:15 Very revealing. That means they're not using integer scaling. Aren't the games 240p? That scales perfectly to 720p very easily. I don't feel like registering at the now-Atari-owned Atari Age forums to complain about it, though... someone else should, though!
Great video! Can you test these other titles? Burger Time Gyrus Frogger II Omega Race Pinball Frostbite Worm War I Airlock Saboteur Sea Hunt Aqua Venture Conquest of Mars Elevator Age Raptor Ruby Q Space Taxi Amoeba Jump (Homebrew) Save Mary (Homebrew) Yars Return (Homebrew) HERO (Homebrew) Ninjish Guy (Homebrew) Stay Frosty 2 (Homebrew) Lead (Homebrew) Ardvark (Homebrew) Galagon 7800 (Homebrew)
Great review and you really covered all the important details, to be honest though, I don't think this new system is for me. I have enough spares and parts from Console5 to keep my original running longer than I have days left on this earth. Maybe if the original wasn't built like a Sherman tank, I'd opt for the clone stuff. Thanks for getting this one out there. 👍
Very informative! When they release this with an SD card slot, I will buy it. Otherwise, I'll buy a flash cart. I would rather have every game in coax quality on original hardware for half the price and use Stella which is free for HD. A lot of the fun in exploring Atari is the weird or licensed titles. I love Atari and have 100+ games, but I'm not paying for a console that can't play the entire library in 2023.
@@GregsGameRoom I'm thinking it will be accessed through USB too, but they plan to update firmware which may hinder the ROMs. The minis all came with amazing libraries playable for hundreds of hours that the 2600+ doesn't at a lower price and it isn't like Flashbacks haven't had SD slots before. This one is just easier to play smart and wait, even if the product is cool.
Why did they use dip switches on the cartridges themselves rather than just using the game select button right next to the reset button. Or is the setup different on this system. I'm blind so I can't see the setup of the 2600+. Still love your video. I used to be a fairly good video pinball player lol, don't ask me how I did it.
I knew the 7800 homebrews wouldn't work yet but a little concerned about some of the 2600 compatibility (except things such as Pitfall II, which has an extra on-board chips). Hoping for some updates and/or community involvement.
I have a few games that uses keyboard controllers they do not work on the plus but i have the old 2600 they do work but the game compatibility chart says they do work on the plus what gives???
I guess it means that the cartridge starts up okay, so it's "compatible" in that sense, even though it's unplayable because the controller isn't compatible!
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I've not finished watching the video fully yet, but just a reminder that apparently you do NOT have to power the system off/on to change games. Just hot swap them as it was designed for this so you don't have to wait for the boot startup delay each time.
Ah, good tip!
That will feel weird :P
@@markrotondella4689 Yes as it is against what we did back in the day. But apparently this 2600+ was designed to hot swap the games like this. Otherwise you have to wait for the boot up of the console each time which, takes much longer. So they designed it to shut off the game when you remove the cartridge and when you load up a different game, it will read what was just put in and restart the emulation with the new game.
@@IvoryTowerCollections never tried it because i still dont have that many games
Nice work doing such a thorough review! And I appreciate your editing style :)
I suspect the keypad controllers don't work because they require the joystick ports to set some lines as input and some as output. It may very well be that the 2600+ joystick ports are only capable of input, not output.
I wasn’t sure if I should preorder the enhanced edition of Berzerk but after watching your review of the game I’m glad I did. The voicing samples and the diagonal firing from the robots make it feel closer to the arcade version
This is the best review/look at the Atari 2600+ I've seen. You checked everything including 7800 games and two button controllers. Strange that the Sega Genesis pads don't work as they work on any original 2600. I hope they fix that with firmware.
Thank you!
Just saw you on Adam the Woo's channel. I do love me some retro systems! I still have my 1979 Atari 2600 from my childhood, which my father stored in a closet for 2 months before Christmas and, of course, I already knew he bought it. I feigned ignorance when I opened the present, and he still doesn't know that I did that. I'm 50 years old this year. Dad is 85! :)
Thought I'd give you a sub.
Appreciate it, thanks!
Haha! Love the AVGN reference... love that episode! Can't wait for mine! It's on its way
Great Review! Awaiting my Atari 2600+ arriving tomorrow! Thanks for uploading this fun and honest review, cheers..... from Ireland.
Awesome job, Greg! The tiny but "real" boxes are really cool and fit better on "Media" shelves than the original sizes
Yeah they were a nice surprise!
im impressed that you still have your original 2600 from when you were a children.
Yeah, I get too attached to things!
I don't think i got the Atari but a cheaper imitation system which had the atari games built in. Not sure what it was called but it had a cowboy on the box?
Really nice review and testing. Gone are the days of fighting with broken RF switch adaptors.
True. Even on an unmodified system you can get an RF to coax adapter.
Here in the UK, when I was a kid, my Dad use to rent games from the local petrol station for my 2600. Great review.
Have to say this was a great video. You didn’t just do a surface dive like others.
Glad you appreciated it.
Really great review much more in-depth than other "reviewers" thanks so much 🥂
Thank you! I tried to answer as many questions as I could think of!
The metal grooves on the switches is called a knurl (in manufacturing). Great review! I'm really looking forward to receiving mine.
Thanks for the info!
@@GregsGameRoom No, that info is just plain wrong. The grooves on the switch shafts are from a turning tool made by machining it on a CNC lathe. They are simply feed lines made by the tip of a turning tool. Very common on all items made on a lathe. I should know, I'm working as a CNC programmer/CNC Machinist/1st Class Machinist/Toolmaker since 1986. Knurling is something completely different since there are two grooves at an angle and cross over in a X or diamond shape along the length of the shaft. Although nowadays knurling isn't very common. If you have an old center punch you might see knurling on the part that you hold or on a barbell / weight bars, grips of darts or a mechanical pencil, to name a few.
Thank you for this review and for covering all the bases!
Thanks for the video. would love to see a further teardown showing those extra PCB's - it's clear that the bottom one (two) for the switches, the middle one the cart reader and rear connectors. I bet some enterprising individual could easily create a replacement Blue PCB for a seameless raspberry pi (or other board) based Atari2600+ ......Imagine a CM4 (or forthcoming CM5) adaptor that just manipulates the data lines on the two header sockets on that processor board.!
Is there much more space in the case?
There’s a lot of room inside there.
The system has a Rockchip ARM CPU, so it's already essentially a Raspberry Pi. The two hacks would be:
* Load custom firmware
* Add WiFi
With that, you could emulate a much larger library of games. Any game that works with a one-button joystick should be playable, whether for the Atari 2600, Atari 7800, Atari 800, C64, or even arcade machines should be playable. Just have the firmware have a load-from-WiFi option if there's no cartridge inserted. If adding WiFi doesn't work, custom firmware could use a cartridge with a SD card.
Excellent full review, by far the best I've seen yet. Watched a few 10/15 min "reviews" that just don't cover enough. This video is how it should be done! Will definitely be checking out more.. oh and recognise you from the Daily Woo.. lol unrelated to this video 😅 Great work mate.
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words.
Holy crap, thank you! I finally found a video where someone plays Xevious on the 2600+! I bought the game the other day and I was worried that it wasn’t compatible, but now I know my cartridge just doesn’t work. Thanks!
Thank you for the detailed review and tear down
I really wanted to love this system but already owning an 2600/7800 with mods, Retron77 with cfw and the newest Flashback.
I just can’t justify the cost only for its looks.
How do you mod them? What mods did you do? What are "cfw?" And "flashback?" And "retron77"? " Thx
Thanks for the super in-depth review. I was surprised at how many third-party games didn't work.
Yeah it’s a bummer.
37:14 The flash is the Toshiba TC58NVG1S3HTA00 TSOP48 chip. It's a 2G-bit (256MByte) NAND flash ROM. It's very curious why they used such a large amount of storage to hold what boils down to an ARM port of a Atari 2600 emulator and not much else. Clearly they are not using the best and most recent emulator code otherwise more games would work. Also, am I the only person who noticed the board has a space for a microSD card slot.... hmmmm ^_^
I don’t know if anyone addressed this elsewhere, but my recollection is that the keypad for Star raiders is plugged into player two and the joystick is in player one
I had it plugged into controller port 2. No dice.
Sorry about that
Star raiders was one of my faves on the 2600
Brilliant review this, best I've watched by a mile.
Thanks!
I have the enhanced Berzerk cart with voice I got from Atari Age years ago. Is the one they selling now different?
The robots fire diagonally.
Excellent review. I was making a list of questions to ask as I watched the video, but you answered them all! Obviously my first question was whether Ninja Golf worked.
Had to do Ninja Golf!
Good review. When I do my own, I might put a link to your review in the description because so far your review has been the most comprehensive and is the only one that has all that video testing which I can’t duplicate because I don’t have nearly as many cartridges nor do I have the 7800 stuff.
On the Atari Trakball, there should be a switch on the bottom to change it from joystick to trakball mode.
Hm, don’t remember seeing that but I’ll check!
I thought not all of them had the switch. When I bought mine on the Bay of E, I looked for one that had a picture showing the switch.
But besides that, does the 2600 even support that kind of input? I thought only my 5200 had actual trakball analog input. For the 2600 - AFAIK - only the paddles (and the 360 spinning driving version) provided analog input. Hmmm…
@@nickpalance3622 My 2600 supports the trakball.
Great review. I'm so hyped. Now I have to wait until Christmas ;)
Whoever thought you could unwrap a new 2600 at Christmas?!
37:28 its a Recovery button
Yeah it was hard to see with the naked eye.
Really good review, thank you so much for this!
Thanks for watching!
To me, aside from the system itself, good quality new authentic joysticks and paddle controllers being available again is good for people who own an original 2600.
Thanks for the great video. I am curious if you ever got Smurf to work? I seem to be having the same issue you were with it and the cart was thoroughly cleaned.
Best thing to clean cartridge contacts with is hoppe's 9 powder solvent. Just dip a qtip into the bottle, wipe on both sides, get a clean qtip and scrub like you would with alcohol. hoppe's 9 is a copper oxide solvent, and that is what you are cleaning. I used it on all my old cartridges about 10 years ago. I still haven't had to clean them. Just make sure you don't drip solvent into the cartridge, you don't want to dissolve the pcb traces, just the corrosion layer on the edge connector. In other words, be frugal with the solvent.
You have a very nice collection of games, especially the 7800 ones. Thank you for trying out so many games. I was very concerned about Popeye and Stargate. Thanks for confirming.
Thanks, I wanted to try as many games as possible.
Thank you for your video. Question - at 9:52 - what did you do after that screen came up? That is where I'm stuck.
You can usually either take a picture of the chip info and put it into Google lens, it will tell you about those chips. Or just type in the info on the chips and research and then find out about the hose chips. There has got to be some kind of schematic out there for you to modify the 2600+ boards for some kind of additional or augmenting?
I'm curious if you plug the USB into a PC, is the device recognised? Does anything happen if you plug in a powered USB C hub (eg maybe another way to connect HDMI via a hub with a HDMI adapter)?
Haven’t tried.
Great review! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for watching!
Great video. Really good to see a bunch of games tested. I have to say though, you sure hold a joystick strangely!
hah, that’s because I was trying to get the joystick onscreen with the game.
@@GregsGameRoom i know, just messing. :D
Is that beautiful wood grain finish made of laminate or is it made of wood veneer?
My vintage Atari joystick literally has the same rattling sound.
I had one when I was 9 back in the day. I can still remember the new console smell. Does this one replicate the olfactory branding of the original?
What's inside the joystick? Curious if they are using the same (bad) dome clicky buttons?
I didn’t want to rip off the pads to find out.
@@GregsGameRoomEh? They are just glued on. Lift them up and open it then put the pads back on and they will stick. Or add some glue and stick them back on. It's not difficult. Otherwise change your description to "PARTIAL REVIEW" LOL! Come on dude we need to know if they are good quality or the same junk from 1977.
@@g4z-kb7ct ackshually in 1977 the heavy sixer came with CX-10 joysticks. The CX-40 came in 1978 with the light sixer. The OG joystick has different internals and an actual spring inside! Plus the outside does not say “Top” and the end of the stick on the very top has an indent where an Atari sticker would’ve been. Mine no longer have the stickers and it seems nearly all have lost the sticker. Oh well. As you can imagine, the light sixer and it’s joysticks were cheaper to manufacture.
@@nickpalance3622The original joysticks are well documented. The question is what are these new joysticks like inside. Looks like no-one has the balls to take a look inside. It's the same old story, if you want something done right do it yourself. I just ordered my own 2600+ and I will open the joysticks when it arrives.
Will the enhanced berzerk work on an original Atari 2600? The sounds and stuff? Bought a fully refurbished 2600 with power LED and av composite mods and I don’t really want to get the 2600+ since my 2600 looks n runs minty
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@@GregsGameRoomthank you!
It looks really good in terms of being a replica, but I am just holding off to see if there are some official or community updates that will really make this into a must-have.
It has updateable firmware so not if but when.
Great video. You gave me nostalgia when you showed some of those games that I had forgotten about.
Glad to help you remember!
The 16:9 4:3 is important if you want to hook it up via HDMI adapter to a 4:3 CRT or 4:3 LCD screen. When doing that via HDMI you would actually set it to 16:9 and then in theory it should look notrmal on 4:3 then as it will be desqueezed.
Sounds about right.
Did you cleaned and re-tested the non working games???
Not if it said “Loading game failed.”
@@GregsGameRoom but your copy of jedi arena should work acording to the compatibility list
Awesome Review !!!!!
Thanks!
Great Video! Hopefully they get some firmware updates for the compatibility issues. It will be interesting to see what the community does with this as they made the Retron 77 WAY better with the Stella Emu update, but still had issues with Jittery paddles. Unless you got the Hyperkin one, but that one was real stiff. Hoping this does well and maybe in the future they will put out a FPGA 7800 pro system console, one can hope and dream.
I bet this one will be amazing after the modders get ahold of it. I like the look of this console way better than the Retron 77!
@@GregsGameRoom yea. Will definitely keep an eye out to see what happens with it and will get it when there is a better firmware or mod build out. They need to get the 7800 compatibility sorted out for the homebrews at the very least.
Do we have any clarification as to whether flash carts will work on this yet?
I noticed there’s no instructions on Mr. run and jump, so what do you do if you’ve never played it before
The instructions are in the title. lol
I also noticed no instructions for Bezerk @@GregsGameRoomI never played it
I was excited for this system until the loading game fail section. I’m curious if it’s the cartridge or the system.
Greg thanks for the review mind arives on fri cant wait, Been looking forward to this since i pre ordered it..Been buying up old games just to have them..Thanks for testing an now i know what will work..Cant wait go atari..Looks like there making a come back..
Sounds like you’ll be busy with those games!
@@GregsGameRoom What would be cool later on is if atari lets colecovision run on the system id love to play that old dnd game my friend used to have.
Love your video! Does it connect to the internet?
So how close did the paddles come to playing like the original paddles on an original Atari? After all these years do we have something near perfect, yet?
There’s a bit more resistance than my original paddles. But they are very smooth.
You suggested that future firmware updates might fix some of the compatibility issues. The catch is that there's no obvious method to update the firmware. There's no network. I suppose they could issue a firmware update cartridge that you could order, but only if the current firmware is designed for that. And while you mentioned that you expected one game to fail because of custom chips in the cartridge, Ballblazer has a Pokey sound chip, and that works, so if it's one where they detect a known game, they can emulate the special cartridge features. But there are a lot of those, so it's not surprising that they only got the best known ones.
My 2600+ just arrived. I opened the joystick and it's using a really clean nice design with conductive rubber pads and carbon-coated PCB pads like most modern controllers. So there's no old style dome switches in there and they should last many years without touching. If anyone already has a real 2600 and needs a new joystick buy this new one (sold separately I think) because it plays identical to the original but is better quality.
Do you know if the Star Wars the Empire strikes back game from Parker Brothers worked on the system?
Awesome review! Makes me want one!! Lol
Thanks buddy!
Love your vids.
Thanks!
Brilliant job mate! Thanks 🤜🤛
I saw the 2600+ at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo and thought it looked super cute! Loved the mini form factor. I was however disappointed to learn it doesn't support a majority of modern homebrews.
Yeah, the 7800 ones especially. I’m getting some more homebrews soon so I’ll give them a test too.
Yes but it's also possible that homebrews can be rewritten to take advantage of this new hardware. Might be neat to have a virtual 7800+
They're supposed to be patching compatibility
The OG 4 switch moves all the plug ins up so this is actually correct i dont care for it also but you have a great collection if these carts are CIB its a big money collection if not i recommend looking for MT box and completing the more valuable ones. Good job on the review also did you run out to buy any games? there seems to be a rush of bidders now on everything Atari.
The way it is off throws it off for me thanks for the review
Congrats on your award!! Now when are we gonna play Aztec Challenge? 🎉😊
Thanks!
Could it possibly be that some of the games that failed may have just needed cleaning?
It's possible. If it read, "Loading Game Failed" I figured it was the system and not the cart.
Did you try cleaning robot tank?
oh thank god you play four player paddle games!!! thanks for testing that no one else has thought to do it for some reason. :D :D :D :D :D I had that silver joystick back in the day. :P
Right? 4-player is what makes Warlords the best paddle game ever!
@@GregsGameRoom and 4 player video olympics is pretty sweet too both have fallen through the cracks in terms of being able to be played easily .
So the three chips appear to be a Rockchip RK3128 which is a low power CPU/GPU system on a chip thingy, the H5TC4G63CFR is 512 MB of RAM and the third chip is 256 MB flash storage.
I've found that og paddles were jittery on the plus although they're perfect on an original system
I wonder if there ever was an ATARI to COLECOVISION or vise versa so we can play both consoles games?
Where was Entombed in the news?
There was a story a couple years ago about how the programmer used some advanced code but lost it.
@@GregsGameRoom Thanks, that sounds vaguely familiar.
The OG one probably had Velcro to stick to a surface so it's easier to move the joystick with how stiff it starts out at lol. Also no power brick but if you hook up to an HDTV, the USB slot on the back of the TV should be enough power for the console, saving on a wire going down to an outlet and finding a usb power brick.
I pre-ordered mine and am looking forward to it. Shame to hear that Pitfall 2 isn't running (which was to be expected) and the Sega Genesis Controller isn't supported, which I didn't expect. Can you tell if PAL and NSTC games run with correct colors on the 2600+? That would be great. I come from Germany and the PAL games here are often significantly more expensive than the NSTC versions. Thanks for your great review 👍😊 Holger
I don’t have any PAL games to test, but I heard they do work.
Do Mr. Run and Jump and Berzerk enhanced work on the original 2600?
“Man do I have a lot to do” “Greg is reviewing the 2600+” “Let’s put the to do list on the back burner and watch this video!”
LOL, thanks for dropping everything. ;-)
Indy 500 with the original steering controls????
How do you get the original ATARI 2600 to work on a newer smart TV?
the 4 in 1 cartridge works on the old consoles? thanks in advace
11:15 Very revealing. That means they're not using integer scaling. Aren't the games 240p? That scales perfectly to 720p very easily. I don't feel like registering at the now-Atari-owned Atari Age forums to complain about it, though... someone else should, though!
It's nice to see the 2600 + plays original cartridges but does the original 2600 play the new games
Yep! Check the chapters in the video!
I saw it shortly after I had time to watch your video without family interruptions. Awesome review
Were there no options to add scan lines?
is the easter egg still in Adventure?
Yep! Cut that clip for time.
Great video! Can you test these other titles?
Burger Time
Gyrus
Frogger II
Omega Race
Pinball
Frostbite
Worm War I
Airlock
Saboteur
Sea Hunt
Aqua Venture
Conquest of Mars
Elevator Age
Raptor
Ruby Q
Space Taxi
Amoeba Jump (Homebrew)
Save Mary (Homebrew)
Yars Return (Homebrew)
HERO (Homebrew)
Ninjish Guy (Homebrew)
Stay Frosty 2 (Homebrew)
Lead (Homebrew)
Ardvark (Homebrew)
Galagon 7800 (Homebrew)
pretty thorough. much appreciated
Will this work Sega megadeive gennis 8 butdo wireless controller
The Retrobit one kinda works. Dunno about 8bitdo.
You do know there are HDMI CRT TVs for playing light gun games on, don’t you?
Great review and you really covered all the important details, to be honest though, I don't think this new system is for me. I have enough spares and parts from Console5 to keep my original running longer than I have days left on this earth. Maybe if the original wasn't built like a Sherman tank, I'd opt for the clone stuff. Thanks for getting this one out there. 👍
Yeah it’s nice to hook it up to a modern TV, but I’ll never give up my unmodded RF signal Ataris!
I am worried if I hook this up to my big screen/projection tv it won't be clear or possibly blurry ?
Very informative! When they release this with an SD card slot, I will buy it. Otherwise, I'll buy a flash cart. I would rather have every game in coax quality on original hardware for half the price and use Stella which is free for HD. A lot of the fun in exploring Atari is the weird or licensed titles. I love Atari and have 100+ games, but I'm not paying for a console that can't play the entire library in 2023.
Well, the Mini consoles don’t have SD card slots. I bet it can be accessed through that USB slot.
@@GregsGameRoom I'm thinking it will be accessed through USB too, but they plan to update firmware which may hinder the ROMs. The minis all came with amazing libraries playable for hundreds of hours that the 2600+ doesn't at a lower price and it isn't like Flashbacks haven't had SD slots before. This one is just easier to play smart and wait, even if the product is cool.
Check the board.... it does have an microSD slot, only it's not populated.... ^_^
Why did they use dip switches on the cartridges themselves rather than just using the game select button right next to the reset button. Or is the setup different on this system. I'm blind so I can't see the setup of the 2600+. Still love your video. I used to be a fairly good video pinball player lol, don't ask me how I did it.
I really hope they make a new trakball for the atari 2600+
I knew the 7800 homebrews wouldn't work yet but a little concerned about some of the 2600 compatibility (except things such as Pitfall II, which has an extra on-board chips). Hoping for some updates and/or community involvement.
They are working on 100% compatibility
I have a few games that uses keyboard controllers they do not work on the plus but i have the old 2600 they do work but the game compatibility chart says they do work on the plus what gives???
I guess it means that the cartridge starts up okay, so it's "compatible" in that sense, even though it's unplayable because the controller isn't compatible!
Thanks for convincing me this console is hot garbage.
Does anyone know how I could get tron game to work with a track ball?
For the light gun games I hope the company makes a new version of the light gun to play the light gun games for the Atari 2600+ on a hdmi tv.