As a German who loves Norway (and speaks Norwegian) I apologise on behalf of our ignorant travellers. The last thing we need is another reason for the world to dislike us, especially one that is harmful to the environment in someone else’s country. Don't be afraid to keep doing what you're doing and even report these people, because something needs to be done. Love your content and your devotion to the morales, values, and actions that keep Norway so amazing. Tusen takk!
Tusen takk 🫶 I have nothing bat to say about Germans in general. But this seems to be a problem locally with more and more pökele wanting to travel like this. And everything being closed off and illegal there because of irresponsible manners. And now the problem is shifting elsewhere 🤝
@@kasperhoglund One of the reasons might be, that rules here are getting stricter ans stricter, therefore some of us behave like irresponsible idiots in other countries. One of the reasons I prefer not saying I am a German while in my vaccations. @Kasper: You did great, hand over suchs stuff to the police and hopefully the fine will be so immense, that people rethink their doing.
@@n03m9 I feel that's part of the problem - many countries just move to stricter and stricter rules, instead of trying to make good compromises. Driving offroad is basically illegal almost everywhere in europe. Which I can understand in densely populated countries, but as a Finn I feel like in some countries is ample space to not resort to a blanket ban. A compromise where off-roading could/should be legal depending on the region (decided based on the type of nature, safety, animals, etc) would make more sense to me. Off-roading isn't just people trying to be cool and get instagram content - but it's a way to explore remote regions and untouched areas and enjoy nature. Not everyone has the time, money, or physical ability to mountainbike or hike to enjoy rural nature. And driving a vehicle offroad does not have to mean it's a polluting, noisy unimog. Realize that the ban considers as equal an electric motorbike or even e-bike, and a giant diesel truck. To me it's an activity that should require being responsible and educated, which happens with good regulation (like requiring a special license), that would be fine with me. Plenty of activities require licenses, like hunting, using explosives, etc, and I do believe some kind of compromise could be found.
I live in Utah, in the United States. My state is a HUGE hotspot for off-roading and overlanding, possibly one of the biggest in the nation. We're having an increasing issue with people not following the "leave no trace" guidelines, or inexperienced people getting stuck or downright killed on our land. It's making things harder for the locals, it hurts to see the land that I love so grossly neglected.
In my experience, it is more often than not the locals who litter and pollute areas more than visitors. I belong to a 4x4 organization and have seen members leave areas worse than they were before. Everyone gets stuck - not sure why you think that is an issue at all. If someone gets killed that is a tragic accident - though nothing to do with things getting harder for locals or off-roading unless it was on a trail system that no one should really be attempting without a crawler or moonbuggy. If you are hurt by the land get neglected - get your local 4x4 organization to do more and be Shepard of the trail systems or get out there yourself and start spreading the word to those you see who aren't.
@@corail53 In Utah it's definitely tourists that trash sites more than locals. Every single group I've gone with have had scouts that live by leave no trace
I was into off-roading in the 90s in the USA. There was a motto to "Tread Lightly". Don't leave a trace of your passage. It's a shame that these days, with all of the information available that people still mess everything up for the responsible people. Just a sign of the times. Our governments like the decaying civility and intellect.
It's not possible to offroad and "leave no trace" when you are driving in a Unimog or similar vehicle. There are enough roads & tracks, if you want to leave them, hike.
@@kasperhoglund thanks for PSA and helping authorities enforce laws that don't restrict freedom but protect the landscape for everyone enjoy. Thanks for taking the time. PS: really jealous from Canada
As an off roader from Canada we have so many legal amazing trails to drive but are loosing them because ppl won't stay on them and ether go bush whacking or just go onto private property that looks wild and rip it up. People like the MOG guy who just don't think laws apply to them are ruining it for everyone else.
@@philipocarrollExactly, people need to leave their house at home. I live in Alaska and people get bigger heavier off road vehicles which do nothing but tear up the trails. I have seen them get stuck and they ask me for assistance and I refuse to pull on anything over 1000 pounds.
As a German, I appreciate your message and actions! Idiots need tough lessons to comply. I have been "Overlanding" 25 years ago in your beautiful country and had no need to go offroad because there was just plenty of amazing places to see just by official roads, it permanently put Norway in place as one of my top countries to visit and ultimately made me end up living in Kanada, where we have the same issues, but a bit more space so it's less obvious.
As a Belgian hiker who visited Norway 2 years ago, I think you did the right thing. Your country is still so free and beautiful, and it's because of guys like this we'd all lose this freedom. I plan to do a Norway roadtrip in the future, so it's great to know what the limitations are, and know about this situation, so I can make clear to the locals that I don't participate in this type of behaviour.
If you think Europe has it bad, just look at what influencers have done to sensitive ecological sites in India. It’s appalling how little some people care.
Sorry to read this. We have giant problems in occidental countries. Not only with influencers, but with the general public in regards for live and respects of locals. Internet is making everything a show, and those shits would kill their grandmas for clicks. In Switzerland, we have the pedophile and human trafficking scene that is growing by the day. It's sad. I'm really thinking of quitting my life at this point, and going somewhere in the midst of the japanese mountains.
@@Trashloot Stupid vain people and the internet has created a trend of stupid vain people filming themselves doing things that are deserving of being thrown into a wood chipper
Good job, Kasper and everyone who assisted in tracking them down. The type of response you received from them is known as gaslighting, which shows the type of people they are. If they are supported by any social media advertising, then the advertisers need targeting too.
Gaslighting is the process of slowly convincing someone they are going insane in order to exert control over them, usually someone that loves and trusts the abuser. This is not gaslighting.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn you're probably thinking of the old use of the term. in recent years it has slowly changed to be used to describe general misdirection and subterfuge with malicious or selfish intent. the term sees use in this fashion predominantly on social media platforms.
I totally like how this was handled with utmost respect and class. A bow to you sir for standing up for what you believe in and how you calmly dish it out. As someone who had their land wrecked by a few "adventurers" i appreciate this.
I don't think he handled this with class at all. He went even lower on the pettyness scale than the influencer by threatening to report him to the police by "sending his picture and all his personal info to them" lol. And for what? Bc he got blocked on instagram or bc the guy did something that lots of people do according to his own video? Then there is also the use of propaganda tactics like using the video of someone else in the background while reading the guys email response or by putting music behind it or reading it sarcastically. Yes, we get it - this influencer guy, like all influencers, is a hypocrite. But why single out this one guy when hes just part of a larger macro problem? Seems really petty and makes me question his honesty. Does he want to draw attention to the devastating effects of mass tourism, which exists in lots of places, or does he just want to preserve the privileges he has from being born into the rich and beautiful land of Norway? @@kasperhoglund @doctornomnom6393 Sorry, to hear that your stuff got wrecked, but ownership brings responsibilities. Trashing and littering is obviously not okay at all, but "owning" something like land, real estate, factories or capital brings responsibilities with it. If you don't like that you can sell it or gift it away. After all land like all natural resources (e.g. oil and gas in Norway) can just be nationalized and turned into federal land or a national park at any time, if we the people chose to do it.
Crazy that people aren’t taking responsibility for their actions!! It’s not that hard to say”oops didn’t realize and not do it again” but I guess when money and “fame” is involved the greed monster takes over. I hope that people can come to their senses and respect the land and local laws so everyone can still enjoy it! Loved this video!
Same problems here in Canada. - Social media just makes the situation all the worse... as they are all competing for that impressive video that will generate revenue $$
Norwegian here, really appreciate that you inform the right autoritets about these people. Love our nature and hurts seeing these people violate it in such a disrespectful way
As I German I can green light that. Everyone can make a mistake or misunderstood a rule. And there are sometimes rules you can overlook, because you are hurting nothing. But when getting informed about the mistake, and just ignore/block you is nothing else than "I know the rules"...and the reply to your email is literally telling "F U" in you face, as he didn't even jumped on the topics you wrote. And we have those pigs here too, and they are responsible for the same...closing of camp and BBQ sites, because they leave all their trash, closing of roads for motorcycle because a few are just behaiving like idiots.
@@RUclips_Stole_My_Handle_Too landowners in Norway have all their land open for use 100% freely. The right to roam allows us to walk and camp wherever it’s not farmed land or yards. Liability issues is not a thing here either, so the land owner isn’t responsible for what happens on their land. So no need to close it down for that reason.
@@kasperhoglund I am fully aware of the free roaming laws in Norway and most of the Nordic countries. I am also fully aware of the limitation on motorized vehicles.
Hi Kasper, as a German who is into Overlanding, Outdoor and Offroad stuff, I feel particularly ashamed for „my“ people - also noticed the term „German camping“, which really hits me hard. This summer, my son and me went to Sweden and Norway for a few days and really enjoyed a great time. Being able to pitch a tent or a tarp „pretty much everywhere“ for the night is a luxury, but also brings responsibility - to leave a place (at least) as pristine as it was before, be responsible with (even small) fire, take everything you brought (and probably some extra litter) with you. I guess it comes down to knowing what one‘s doing, and just doing it right and respectful. For the Offroading, anyone with minimum training and sufficient budget can drive a military-grade vehicle (as the KAT and Unimog shown in the vid) through pretty much any terrain. That‘s not skill, that‘s not cool, that‘s just plain dumbassery. There are rally and trophy events for stuff like that, as well as dedicated terrains. When one is travelling, and local people are monitoring him and waiting for him to finally leave the country, he is obviously doing it wrong. Thanks for bringing this up. Björn
Swede here, living in the US. I’ve been fearing this for a long time, and I’m sad to see it happening. Sweden, Norway, and Finland are an overlander’s paradise. GPS and social media have ruined many places by making them so popular that they get overrun by people. There are no secret places left. We have the same problems here in the US. I frequently see people ignoring fire bans for example. And you’re almost certain to find trash in fire rings and around campsites. As a result, we lose access to a lot of beautiful places every year.
Yeah it’s definitely changing quite fast these days. A shame considering how free and open the Scandinavian land owners has been for everyone. Local or tourists
You forgot about Iceland 😢, here’s the same or even worse. Not only people drive offroad but they can’t drive on the road. Suddenly stopping because of some random view, renting a motorhome they can’t drive etc
Been following this on Instagram mate, you're absolutely in the right, in Scotland loads of "green lanes" have locked gates and it was due to inconsiderate people leaving waste and destroying the surrounding area. Good to see you bringing awareness to the problem!
You are very lucky you have been lanes in the UK here in ireland we just have beaches in very remote places that are commonages but sadly the locals are pissed off with the scumbags leaving trash etc so les places to go and feel welcome
my family was big into off roading here in brazil in the early 2000s we even accompanied some stages of the Sertões rally a few times (one of the biggest in the world) and since i was a child i learned the motto to leave only your tracks and take only your thrash. it is truly astonishing how some people cannot get this basic principle on off roading especially now with the overlanding boom on social media so thanks for your work calling out these guys and trying to raise awareness to this issue
Hey Kasper, as a fellow german who lived and worked in northern Norway it's such a shame to see this. Especially in the Lofoten/Senja area it's gotten so bad over the last few years and I think it will not be long before it's restricted to even sleep for a night in a designated parking lot. I've met so many great and responsible people on my trips but it's always the 1% who ruin it for everyone. Sometimes I really wish I had a different license plate since I'm getting thrown into the same pot with those people. I'm moving back to Tromsø in December and looking forward to spend the rest of the winter in this beautiful landscape. Thanks for the video and you trying to raise awareness about this problem!
Yeah had a few years in Lofoten and it’s just getting worse. This summer up there I saw a bunch of local farmers closing off camps for good due to a overflow of people. As you know, space is limited there. And farmers do comes first! So there is just a question of years until free camping there is the rare occasion
Since the occupation by the All lies, Germany is just a puppet of the group who runs the USA. Most values, morals and culture is getting lost in Germany due to mass immigration and traidors as politicians in the EU and Germany. The german spirit of law and order and community is getting lost and it is a shame. 50 years back, germans were one of the most orderly and rule obiding people.
the «1%» is a massive understatement. It is not only a few bad behaving, the reality is that the wast majority of German visitors who are the problem. This summer I spent two day on the volunteer community camp on Hauklandstranda, a very remote beach with many international awards. The community in the municipality has built toilets to stop the degradation all the visitors put on the place. Since very few people live here there is little tax income and infrastructure in this municipality. So the toilets are built by a locally organised non profit. On the two days i spent here, the trend was devastatingly obvious and also interesting from an anthropological viewpoint. The Norwegians in the toilet line, payed the fee of about 1 euro, with many people in the line, they closed the door and did not hold it open for the next, the German visitors who represented the majority of visitors where very upset by this. Why did they not hold the door open so they did could get away without paying? Not a very friendly guest, person to person. The Norwegians close door with pride, as we pay our taxes with pride, and see the bigger picture. It is the social responsible thing to do, this facility on the edge of the world does not clean and empty itself and we are grateful to have it there so it needs support. Paying for camping and parking here is also voluntary, and guess what, almost only Norwegian tourists pay. Norway has a very small population and I believe the future will be to prohibit foreign motorhomes entrance over our borders. Thankfully we are not part of EU and have some say on our own.
@@davidgallefoss1254 The EU- dictatorship has degenerated most of Europes original population. Stay out of it as long as you can. It is a evil system who takes the power away from the people and enslaves them.
@@davidgallefoss1254 Same story in Iceland. I'm more than happy to support a local farmer with a campground with hot showers and a nice location. Some others take pride in being cheap free loaders without real need to be.
German here - and I'm so ashamed and so sorry for my "fellow countrymen". God dammit, it's not that hard to educate yourself of local rules and follow them. There's this huge boom of unimocs and similar big "cars" here - and I really don't understand the appeal? If you're not trying to cross Antarctica then why does anyone need such a thing? It only destroys anything in its way. Not trying to defend German campers here - just...angry I suppose.
Thanks! Don’t want to come off as negative to Germans since all of my favorite travel and car people are Germans. But this is definitely a weird trend going on down there primarily with these huge rigs. Might be useful in some rocky and sand covered landscapes. But on a single lane road in a small Norwegian town they’re just obnoxious. Thanks for understanding and sharing the frustration!🫶
@@kasperhoglund Here again a German,... fuck it, so many of this type of truck's just do not understand it because it's reason away they do not care, the main thing they have the action with their badass off-road vehicle. What you are doing here, education, is important and good as you do it. Maybe one or the other finally think about it.
I even remember being a kid in the mid 90`s , camping with my grandparents, they would sometimes say "look at these Germans how they come about." I was too young to understand what they meant, but I suppose they didnt just make it up
It's awesome that social media has helped showcase these beautiful places, but we definitely gotta make sure it doesn't love 'em to death. Respecting each country's rules, leaving campsites better than we found them, and avoiding messing up the environment - those should be no-brainers for anyone who cares about keeping overlanding alive. And you're so right that content creators gotta walk the walk when it comes to ethics and setting a good example. As always great content! Thanks!
As someone from the Netherlands building a small 4x4 to travel to the north this winter, thank you for the information, I'll be sure to keep this in mind!
Randomly had this show up in my feed, but really appreciate your measured attitude and tone in this video, as well as the fact that you're taking actual action to try and protect the beautiful nature landscapes of your country.
I was hiking the trail of tongariro national park in NZ - next to 'Mt Doom* (Lord of the Rings) Its fairly popular for tourists and everyone keeps their voices down and music to zero to respect each others journey. At the peak of the mountain while enjoying lunch, a bunch of German tourists(4 girls) thought it would be fun to blast their music as they walked. We heard it clearly across the valley and i asked them nicely to turn off the speaker (when they finally passed us) and they just laughed and kept on walking. It was so annoying and infuriating having to hear their trashy music for the next 4 hours.
In germany we dislike those people, too. Unfortunately, this type of people (in Germany we call them the stereotypical "Lisa" ) are the ones who are most likely to follow some gloryfied instagram lifestyle.
I'm glad someone is speaking out about these crazies who don't respect nature. The problem is not only in Norway but is growing everywhere because of social media influence. Thanks for your videos
As a Norway lover and overlander for many years, it sends shivers down my spine when I see this. I don't know what I find worse: the thing itself or the absolute ignorance towards the messages and not showing any will to delete the videos. We also have this problem in Germany. Since the pandemic, everyone only wants to travel individually and especially in the Alps we now have too much tourism. People flock to the mountains en masse, leaving behind a lot of rubbish and disturbing the sensitive landscape. Most hikers' car parks now have no overnight stays. But what shocks me most is to learn that there is a separate term specifically for German campers. Just recently, during our trip to Albania, I called on people on my channel not only not to leave any rubbish behind, but also to collect other rubbish. I find it hard to imagine that only German campers leave rubbish at campsites. I think many countries have to struggle with the problem of too many tourists. Many people simply bring many problems with them. I could write a lot more about the problem here, but in the end I would like to keep it short: I condemn this behaviour in nature and am very disappointed that German channels are involved. Shame on you! I hope that the next time we visit Norway we won't be labelled "German campers" from the start, because I don't identify with that in any way. Greetings from Germany, Azze
There is a video here on RUclips somewhere of a German guy on motorcycle that drove over over the mountain through a national park on hiking trails, partly muddy leaving huge tracks. I commented that this is not allowed in Norway, that the fine for the first offence is 24.000 NOK now I think and the police can also confiscate the vehicle used and that would be an even bigger "fine" He replied that he didn't know, but also that he simply didn't care ..... 😮💨 This is becoming more and more a problem.
This Video hits badly into my German heart and I deeply apologize! I saw it two days ago and it still haunts me. I feel so ashame for my countrymen or - even worse - for being a German Camper. But it shows even more: the perversity of social media and the difference of staging and living a livestyle. Therefore I decided to sent this clip with some words to a big German Newspaper called Zeit, hoping they find it as unbelievable as I do and write an article about this. Thanks for sharing your impressions about the behavior of Germans in other countries although it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Das trifft den Nagel auf den Kopf. 👍🏻 Es ist traurig zu sehen wie Landsleute mit ihrem tonnenschweren 300000€ Spielzeug, mit absoluter Respektlosigkeit durch die Landschaft pflügen und nicht mal in der Lage sind die landestypischen Gesetze für so etwas zu kennen. In Marokko scheint das egal zu sein, sollen die sich dahin verpi*en mit diesen Monstern von Fahrzeugen. Aber manche müssen halt ein ganzes Haus dabei haben, weil ein normales Fahrzeug ist dafür ja zu klein. Ein Hilux Fahrer. Sorry @Kasper for such kind of people from my country. It's a shame like hell... 🫣
Lovely Video, I'm from Germany, and I cannot express how ashamed I am for the people from my country coming to yours and just ignoring laws, disturbing nature, and creating a bad reputation for us. Due to a work trip, I will be spending October in Norway, and I hope to catch some of that beautiful nature there. Cheers.
Thank you for bringing this up in such a calm and factual way. Germany has a large scene of 4WD-truck-drivers, but most come to see nature, not to crush it. You're already at 210.000 views, and I hope you'll reach even more.
@@nicdesbias Only because nature has already been crushed on said road. But obviously this is a thousand times better than plowing trough unharmed territory. That being said, all kinds of human exploration has a negative impact on nature. So responsible overlanding is nothing i would shame.
We just had our first „Skandinavia Trip“ after 10 Years. The Scandinavia I knew, did no longer exist. I think a big problem are actually the Apps Like „Park4Night“. Seeing foreigners complete block ways to lakes, with no chance for locals to go for a swim, broke my heart. Talking to these people showed me, they were not aware of this problem. This shows, how important videos like yours are!
@@KuopassaTv Life isn't about 0-100. It is a gradient. Slashing their tires will send them the message that you're just another eco-terrorist. Surprisingly, if you just speak to people, most aren't super defensive like this.
@@KuopassaTv As the video above shows, there are already enough a$$hole$ in the world. Your not going to make it a better place by joining their ranks.
I was visiting a friend in Sweden and we tried to go to a local lake in his town and swim. Upon arrival a foreign camper (white licence plate with a D) demanded us to leave because it was 'their spot'...
I used to love offroading, slowly and responsably. It was forbidden in my region of Italy around ten years ago now. I ended up selling the Defender and becoming a Corolla owner in the end, like you mentioned ;) It's so sad to see that now those trails are not really maintained, but what really matters is: if you don't like laws like these, vote if you can. Don't just act like they don't apply to you. Otherwise, they might become even more oppressive laws and regulations that only affect those who obey them.
This type of ignorance/egoism destroys so many things for the coming generations. In my youth we used to camp at a lake 10km away. The municipality had put there a parking area, some large trash bins and a sign which simply asked to use the trash bins. It also was completely free. But handling a trash-bin was too difficult for many people and now it´s forbidden to even take a bath in that lake.
I've read all the stories and watched the video. These people are insane, insane for being so disrespectful to nature and to be so thirsty of a pinch of social media fame. You're doing the right thing. keep going
100% report them to the Police! Obviously they do not care what locals think hence the blocking of you so you need to do this for your fello country men and women. 👍
Hi here is a Swiss Overlander You absolute right. Follow the rules and a real Overlander protects Nature. If you need to go hard off-road go on tracks made for it. You can go enough real off road when the judgment day is here. PS: leave the camping spot always cleaner as you entered
Great video and information Kasper, thank you. I am Swedish and i love Norway. Having travelled there for many years now for the sheer beauty, I always want to respect the laws and the fragile nature. Keep it up, I fully support you!
Well said Kasper - from Australia, same problem, but here its fellow Australians. It only takes a very small minority to ruin it for the majority. I imagine the reason that Germans are so prominent is there are a lot of Germans travelling to Norway and not that Germans per se are arrogant and feel they are above the law. Its not a race thing, its a human thing.
Yeah I’d you look at Europe as a continent.. imagine the crowded city being Central Europe. And the Nordic’s behind the outback. Of corse everyone will flock over here, but doing it incorrectly leaves everyone unhappy with nowhere to drive.
It's neither a race or human thing, it's an occupation thing. The German people have been absolutely destroyed after the war and her metaphorical fields have been salted by destroying the people's morality and brainwashing them with liberal and materialistic propaganda. Ruthlessly perusing selfish hedonistic goals has replaced obedience and service to the national community. I hope we all brake this spell soon and retake both our lands and our spirit since this evil is not only effecting Germany but all nations falling under America's demonic influence.
As another Aussie, I have noticed that German backpackers doing vanlifing up the East Coast do tend to camp anywhere and leave litter. But they're weirdly neat about it and normally gather it together or bag it. I just assumed that's what they do at home. Also as an avid 4wder/overlander of 15 years, RTTs do significantly less ground damage (in my experience). We have no need to leave the marked roads other than finding a camp. Look up the CREB Track to see what our legal roads are 😂
In Canada, we’ve done it to ourselves. Off roading and random camping are legal so anywhere nice is overrun with large RV’s towing trailers with bikes and quads that turn everything to mud and dust. To mitigate the erosion, foresters need to lay down fallen timber along the roads and place large boulders to block motorized access to sensitive areas.
@@bravotwozero535 Its easier for the demoralized to just pick a group of people and put the blame on them. Especially when that group of people will grovel before you at the first sign of annoyance because of the past. It's kind of sad how he singles them out like they're the only ones doing it. We all know that's completely untrue. I guess OP just had some personal experiences he wants to vent to the world.
As a Kiwi (New Zealander) living in the Netherlands, i know exactly what you meant in this video. There was a scandal a few years ago where some travelers from a country (which used to be part of the european union) came to a popular beach in Auckland and spent the day making a huge mess. So much so that they caused national uproar, were banned from visiting New Zealand in the future and were even ordered to leave the country. I visited Norway in 2020 and fell in love with it. Your videos have inspired me to start my own travel journey so now i'm saving up to buy an Amarok. Cant wait to see even more of the gorgeous Norwegian countryside.... legally of course.
It's always those few people who make a mess and the entire community is being punished. No matter if those are overlanders, sport car drivers, motorbike drivers or football supporters. Sad reality. Hope this turns out good. You're doing an awesome job, Kasper.
Agree on this! I saw so many of these huge trucks in Morocco, you literally are just driving a mansion on wheels. They are literally just like the people that pay a lot of money to get to Mt Everests summit yet have never stepped foot on a mountain before
I thought the whole reason to over-landing was to live and experience it, to live as near to nature as possible, not to drag a five star hotel room on the back of an HGV, you might as well just fly these and stay in a real hotel.
@@gilbert7794 That’s what I mean, it’s literally to me just wealthy people trying to fit in with adventurous folk but being weak enough to not be able to let go of the comforts they are all to used to
As a German living in South Africa I am ashamed of the behavior of these two guys. We have the same issues in South Africa and Namibia with "overlanding " trucks from Europe being recklessly driven where they are not allowed just for that Instagram video. If you look at the cost of the two vehicles in question I am sure the owners can afford a hefty fine so report them.
As a German currently "overlanding" in a vw caddy trough Norway, wich btw is probably the most amazing experience I've ever had, I also noticed the state of campsites all over the country. Best example shit and toilet paper everywhere. It really hurts to see stuff like that and I would absolutely understand if there is a ban or limitations of some sorts coming that would restrict the possibilies of vehicular travel in Norway. I personally feel ashamed that I'm from the same town as the guy in the grey truck.
Not wanting to drag all under the same brush, since my favorite and best example of good travelers are German! But like you clearly see in a lot of places it’s getting bad. Which is really sad considering it’s all FREE and open to use. Enjoy your travels here man! A caddy is basically the perfect size and setup here 🤌
@@kasperhoglund Thanks. I'm really happy with the caddy, although I also dream about having a Land Cruiser to see some more incredible places. But the caddy has proven itself to be surprisingly capable on light off road stuff.. And like anything else it's a few people ruining it for everyone. Because they think the rules don't apply to them
Near where i live in Norway i’v seen one foreigner start making a trash pile and then all the other campers just start using it as well. Of course most the blame lies with the campers, but i feel like the local government could also easily do more when they know it’s a camping hotspot. They could make bigger trash bins and collect them more often.
Hi Kasper, following your videos from Luxembourg, Thank you for sharing this story with everyone! One of my golden rules for traveling to remote places is to leave a place in the same way I found it in or in a better state, depending on how polluted it is, which I'm trying to preach to everyone I meet along the way. I always carry rubbish bags with me an sometimes take out more than I brought. I would love to visit your beautiful country as well and I would be highly interested in knowing more about the rules you briefly touched on. Thank you for bringing awareness. If we all stick together and respect the nature and people, we can keep the tracks we love to travel on, open for others to see. Good on ya!
I applaud your efforts in showing these matters to the public! I was born and raised in Southern Patagonia in Argentina, and it's mostly an untouched place, with wonderful wilderness and beautiful landscapes like in Norway (which I happened to visit last year). What you say is true, social media has brought a lot of attention to these wonderful places and we see more and more people visit sometimes just for content, which is fine, but so long as they respect the locals and the environment. It's sad to see, but I've seen a lot of tourists leave trash or not respect the local laws, even from the most developed countries. Thanks for your content and I hope you can visit Patagonia someday, it's breathtaking, like your country. Cheers!
I unfortunately know this kind of story all too well. The same thing has been happening all over the world, including in my neighborhood. Maybe you've heard of Sedona, Arizona in the US. There is an entire network of forest roads where you could camp for up to two weeks in one of the most beautiful places in the world. Now, there are a couple of large dirt areas where you can set up camp, and the rest of the entire area is day use only for the trails. It's happening over and over with so many incredible places in the western US because there are just too many people breaking the rules, driving off the trails, and leaving trash. There are volunteer groups that try to keep places clean, but the government and the locals are only going to tolerate so much before areas are closed. It's such a shame. Worst part is, it's our own neighbors who are trashing our public lands, not even people from other countries. I really feel for you and hope that you can get this problem under control in your own home before such a good thing is ruined for everyone. Tusen takk for the video and the awareness!
We thought that only our country was having deterioration of its protected areas by overlanders. Thank you for uploading this video, cheers from Guatemala!!!
Well put together video and your approach to dealing with this issue is respectable. We have similar problems in America with this, many overlanders fall into one of 3 categories here, either 1) they are looking for social media views and have never been off road 2) they just want to know everyone's secret camp spots so they can impress their friends and have a wild party which leaves trash everywhere 3) they actually think overlanding is blazing trails through the wilderness... The weird part is, we have designated off road areas in America, paid for with grant money and maintained by enthusiasts... they refuse to go to these easy to find off road areas (the government even gives you a free map of where they are) and insist on going to the pristine areas to trash them...
Hey Kasper, as a long-time off-road enthusiast what you are saying rings true for the UK too. We have "By-ways" that are free for access (Salisbury Plain being a big one and my local area) as long as your vehicle is legal but people take advantage of this, most of the time if its misused then local government will close this road. As someone that would like to visit the Nordic countries at some point soon, its good that you brought these things to light. Good job man, love your content. Keep it up!
I’m planning a trip to Scotland and has been reading reales and local issues with campers for weeks. Even though I haven’t set a date. Should be common practice to read up. And a shame when people mess it up, either locals or touristsz
@kasperhoglund Scotland has very different access laws to England including trespassing. In Scotland, like Norway, you can walk cycle and pitch a tent practically anywhere that's not someone's garden. There are no vehicular access rights without the landowners permission, so forget overlanding. We don't have byways and green lanes like in England. I live on the edge of the Cairngorms national park and I am glad we have these laws.
Great video. Come up to Tromsø, we have so many boulders and barricades along the coastline you'd think we were half expecting an invasion by sea, but it's all because of campertrailers parking where they're not supposed to. Granted we have 1 camping site in Tromsø and it's always very full, but there are several just half an hour driving outside of the city limits. There are a couple of hidden treasures, coveted by taxi drivers who need a place to stand for short durations or for a little cowboy-nap (there aren't enough taxi ranks in the city for all the taxis anyways, a different problem but kinda related). If you ever find yourself in a situation where the camping site is full, and there are dragon teeth and boulders every place else, ask a taxi driver if he knows of a place where there's space for 1 car for 1 night. At the very least he'll point you to the 2nd closest camping site 30 kilometers north.
Yeah the city’s and town up north can see this on a much larger scale during summers. A “hidden” flock of campers coming in trough the Swedish highway that southerners in Norway don’t notice. So they’re left standing here saying it’s not “that many” campers around.. Obviously, the north is the place to go!
Completely sympathise with this mate and well done. We have exactly the same problem in the UK - in Wales I'm frequently encountering monster truck conversions and overlanders in inhabited/very remote areas that are in fact very small before you reach a town. This has led to a lot of land damage, noise pollution, and landowners erecting gates where there previously were none, limiting access for those who simply want to drive to a location on a track and park to hike. Great inspiration for thinking about how others can do something about it in our area. Thanks 🙏
@@corail53 I love overlanding and have done it in many places where there are vast uninhabited areas. Where I'm referring to in Wales/England are not actually actually very big spaces of uninhabited nature, they feel more remote than they are, meaning the influx new overlanders and the set up of a lot of rigs are destroying tracks/wider environment off road where they shouldn't be driving, causing barriers on these access roads for all.
Agree, people who visit beautiful places need to respect the place and leave it clean. The same goes for our cities and public parks. In my neighbourhood, there are several lovely parks, and each time we have a sunny day, people visit in large numbers, and unfortunately, not all of them take their rubbish with them or dispose of it appropriately. Thanks for highlighting this issue.
Thanks Kasper for bringing up this issue. We live in the north of Sweden and we are also afraid things like this will happen more and more. It's up to everybody (locals and tourists with good intentions) to keep their eyes open for the few who have no respect and make them clear it's not acceptable.
I think it's terrible that videos like this have to be made, but I really like they way you've gone about it. More people need to be made aware of the rules and regulations since overlanding really picked up steam, but examples also need to be made and there has to be consequences for the people that blatantly break them. The world needs more people like you, who not only hold yourself accountable for your actions, but also maker others answer for theirs. Much love as always, you're a true inspiration :)
I am a German who loves the north, speaks Swedish and is always horrified by how my compatriots in the north behave. Most people only know the term “everyman’s right” from the title, but apparently not from the content. I used to often go kayaking and canoeing in Dalsland, Värmland and Åland with my family. It wasn't usually a problem to camp somewhere if you bothered to ask the owner (which is of course easier if you know the local language). But the natural way in which many of my compatriots use the landscape (making fires, fishing, leaving rubbish and shitting in the bushes) means that freedom of movement and hospitality is rightly declining. I'm now more drawn to the Baltic States and Poland, where the camper crowd isn't that strong yet. Thanks for your video, hopefully it spreads further. Med vänliga hälsningar och tusen tack!
Hey Kasper, Tristan from Australia here! Just wanted to show my support for using your platform to speak up and call out these people who do the wrong thing. As you know, the same thing is happening all over the world and if it continues, it’ll ruin things for those of us overlanders who try to do the right thing. Love your channel mate, keep the great content coming!
Our laws do differ a bit as far as where you’re allowed to drive off-road in Australia, we do probably have a bit more freedom here. The main issue for us is people disrespecting the bush by tearing up tracks and leaving their rubbish behind. Already we’ve seen plenty of tracks being closed due to this behaviour. But I hope there’s a culture shift so this changes all over the world!
@@kasperhoglund It's actually not an option here. We have whole towns that don't enjoy year round road connections. I myself live some way from a posted road. Out here, if you broke down. A couple of Germans in a luxury Dakar truck would be a welcome sight. lol In a country where you can get a speeding ticket on a beach in a National Park. The idea of just blanket banning off roading seems like a massive kick in the nuts to the 90+% of people who would do it respectfully. Are you going to tell me you wouldn't trust yourself to use trails responsibly?
Hi Kasper, Such a well put together video, on a huge topic, here in the Highlands of Scotland, we have the same issue, though with the added insult of motorhomes, thiniking they can park up anywhere and empty there toilets anywhere!! The respect for nature and wild lands seems to be missed by most!! All the best David
Sad to see! I’ve been planning a trip to Scotland and have been reading up for ages and also read up on the locals frustration with campers .. even before setting a date for the visit!
This is the same issue that I have with quads in rural Canada where I live. Not only do blocked exhausts start wildfires, there are also delicate ecosystems that are being ruined by travelling off trail. Lots of sand just below the surface in spots means that once the sand is uncovered, the vegetation on top can't recover from the constant traffic. Atv users also don't obey non-motorized trails (and then go off trail) causing landowners to block access to the trail through their property. I'm glad you posted this video to bring awareness to an issue that is not only a regional problem.
This happens in the USA as well and is not a new phenomena, though the Covid travel restrictions certainly made it worse. For someone visiting Norway, can you suggest where best to obtain information about off-highway (on-trail) rules and proper etiquette guidelines? Local overlanding groups and/or official regulation sites?
Cool that you bring that up! On our last trip to Norway, we witnessed three super cool spots being closed with barriers and signs. Reasons: Litter, damaged land, overconfidence and then partly cheeky behaviour... the problem: every prohibition sign that is put in place, is never taken away again.
Takk for innsatsen, det er virkelig en god måte å sette fokuset på et problem uten å virke anmassende eller belærende. I tillegg er kvaliteten høy, så det gjorde inntrykk på noen som ellers ikke er spesielt begeistra for natur og friluft (som meg). Håper å se like høy kvalitet i kommende videoer!
Hi Kasper, a fellow Norwegian here (and subscriber/fan of your content), trucks like those are pointless in Norway and most places anyway, what's the point of such overbuilt monster trucks when the worst kinds of roads they are likely to drive on are gravel roads that can probably be driven on almost as well as any 2wd car with some ground clearence. Keep up the great work. :)
Less practical than a Audi A4 with a camper trailer. Like you say, it’s no use for it. And maneuvering that on a single lane road at the west coast is wild 😂🤝
Thank you for bringing this issue to everyone’s attention. I watch quite a few overlanders, and as someone watching content creators, I don’t want to watch someone who is disregarding the rules of the area in which they are traveling, or who are denigrating the same natural areas they are videoing. If you “love nature” you obviously leave it as you found it.
Tusen takk for at du tok tid og energi til å legge frem en saklig advarsel/klage, og for å samtidig dokumentere dette på denne måten. Det er alt for mange turister med kjemperigger, 'utømmelig bankkonto', og en dårlig holdning til Norske naturlover, som gjort eksempel av her. Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to forward a proper complaint/warning, and at the same time document it in this way. There's just way too many tourists with giant rigs/trucks, 'bottomless bank accounts', and a bad attitude towards Norwegian nature laws, as made example of here. They want to have their fun and experiences, paying no heed to countrywide laws.
Amazing video Kasper and I am glad you made it. I've been looking into this and its actually a global issue which is getting worse - UK, Europe, Australia, Africa, USA, Canada and even Middle East. 'Overlanding' has become an industry/business in itself which now somehow has crossed over into the vanlife, campervan, motorhome and caravaning scene. Suddenly, its not just a small 1%, its a much bigger number when you take into consideration how many people are out there fuelled by Instagram, RUclips, Apps and Websites. When you have something this big, it needs policing and it needs education. Pointing the finger to the "1%" is not the answer, more needs to be done across this whole industry to bring awareness, education and self-policing on these matters. Yes, its not ideal and it should have never gotten to this point, but lets face it, it already has. I fear we are getting closer to the point of no return where authorities/land owners will eventually drastically intervene and outright ban camping, hiking, freedom to roam, including banning all types of vehicles completely in places - believe me when I say they can do this very easily - already happened in a few places. Conservationists and Land Owners need to get together to work with the Overlanding/Camping community/industry to bring a mutual resolve this issue through awareness, education and self policing - before it turns into a path of vandalism, theft, robbery and violence. Keep up the good work Kasper, love your vids!
Yeah it’s becoming a “normal” activity which is ok. Can’t really gatekeep it. But there’s people with no knowledge ruining it because they see videos like this and assume that’s what all of us do. Gotta protect the few legal options we have left 🤝
First off. Great tone and respectful delivery of you Kasper. No wise-ass vibes. This is how we should communicate online! Then. I completely agree with you. I'd like to add that I feel like presence online is a major part of this issue. It's ten fold worse (or number-of-views-X-worse) to post about greyzone or illegal stuff you do online, with photos, videos, posting a new GPS spot (which makes people think it's ok.. for instance on park4night) or new trail. Keep up the good work.
Yeah. I’m not saying it’s ok if you don’t post it. But that would be sooo much less of a problem. This getting showed to millions which all uses the same park4night app to get there. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen
1) Create large enough fines that works as a deterrent 2) If fine is not immediately paid on the spot, confiscate the car to work as a deterrent for other would-be-law-breakers We as western society have become way too forgiving and Ned Flanders like when it comes to people breaking the law.
It should be simple, really. If driving off-road isn't allowed, it follows that if you're caught off-road, you would be forbidden from driving back (because that would involve more off-road driving), and would have to abandon the vehicle there, or pay for a helicopter to air-lift it back on the road. :D.
The fines for driving off-road here in Norway is quite high actually. It depends on the "damage" you've done, but the base fine is 1600 Euros. It may add up if you've driven far into the terrain.
@@cammza9989 which is why it should be issued on the spot and they can't have their vehicle back unless they pay it, they can walk away, but they lose their car.
@@Murtagh653 Sounds like a great way to massively increase corruption in the police as they take bribes in the form of "fines" Do you intend to have every square km of Norway constantly monitored by police to issue such fines? The entire idea is ludicrous, the actual solution is to stop them entering the country with a silly luxury apartment built on the back of a lorry
I did a roadtrip through Norway with my buddy this summer and while we were parked, there was an accident on the road near us. Suddenly the whole parking lot was swarming with people and seemingly everyone was speaking german. I'm Swiss and it was strangely familiar but mainly surreal. We saw a lot of German cars more than any other foreign cars. We were in a rental car ourselves.
@@Selendeki I didn’t shit on anybody. I didn’t understand the point. Yes, there’re lots of German tourists but this is not the topic of the video. It’s about some idiots visiting Norway with huge off-road vehicles and not respecting local laws. That’s a very niche thing that doesn’t even apply to 1% of German tourists.
Subscribed after seeing you delete one of your relatively popular videos to set an example and push your case. We need more people like you in the world. Much love from a fellow Norwegian.
The same issue is occurring here in Canada. I live in Nova Scotia, Canada, where many European Overlanders have their overlanding rigs shipped to Halifax, N.S., before embarking on their overlanding trips of the Americas. Many of the wild camping spots here in Nova Scotia, that we have been using for many years, are now closed on Ioverlander because of the litter that is being left behind by overlanders. One of the biggest issue I have encountered at my favorite wild camping spots here in Nova Scotia, is other campers defecating in the woods nearby where they are camping. It has reached a point were you can no longer walk in the forest near these wild camping spots because of the large amount of human feces left behind. I carry a porta-potty in my overlanding rig, but many of the European Overlanders that I have met, don't carry a porta-potty and use the forest as their bathroom. This practice is no longer sustainable with the large population of overlanders now traveling throughout the world. Yes, bears shit in the woods, but we are not bears.
Ugh. They can't even bring a shovel to bury it? This sounds like an invitation to spread cholera. I suppose they'll eventually make it out to Alberta and BC as well.
@@billmcc64 I believe they have. There is a RUclipsr, Foresty Forest, who regularly posts videos of the aftermath mess made at wild camping locations throughout Alberta and BC, created by other overlanders. Foresty forest often posts videos of himself cleaning up the mess made by others. As he often states, "I can't believe we are sharing the planet with these Ding Dongs".
Hi, this is a problem that he also faced in Portugal not only with off road driving, but olso with camp spots, the result its having a lot off this places ruined, and having more restrict rules. Norway is one off the destination that i really want to travel.
Please send all this information to the police and respective organizations! There should be less tolerance for this kind of thing and it must be combatted with effective information and retaliation. It's absolutely ridiculous people get away with this kind of disrespect, only to do it over and over again without ever facing the consequences! They can create much much good content while also respecting the countries they travel.
Unfortunately, this is not only a problem in Scandinavia but throughout Europe. And it's not only those with off-road vehicles but much more even those with 08/15 motorhomes. Especially intensified since the Covid hysteria, thanks to stupid politicians. And the consequences are annoying. Even more serious now in the Alps and even in the Balkans. With Park4Night, every stupid person can now find remote places that previously would not even have found their way out of their own city.
Sad to see this happening all over. The park4night app is like you say just pooling people into these secret spots that they would never look for if it wasn’t for the app.
This is unfortunately a trend that will continue to increase. More people, less wild spaces, and more social media. Until laws are enforced more strictly or education about proper behavior are taught and assimilated this trend will continue to rise more places will face disturbances that nature can't balance.
Again, in Australia, our young people are glued to their phones and have to get their 15 seconds of internet attention by publishing themselves at their "secret" camp sites, natural features, fishing spots etc, etc. Guessing this app is run by the users uploading their favourite spots to it? Sounds completely self-inflicted problem to me ! If people didn't want to be heroes on the internet for 15 seconds, there would be no problem. Its a cultural problem - @@kasperhoglund
@@DuBstep115 No. I (and local land owners) are concerned about the growing trend with trashing these places that are free to use for everyone👍 if that’s what you got out of this video, I can’t help you mate
hi, another German here, but I cannot afford a 500000EUR offroad RV and even if I could, I would be too embarressed showing off like that. I donno how much the fine would be for those guys, I guess they wouldnt bother... Unless the fine is linked to the estimated value of the car that was driven thru the river
We have the same sort of situation over here in Canada. Thing is, people spend big money on huge rigs that are very capable only to find that capability is only really required in 0.01% of their travels. Now they feel the need to "create" situations where they "need" that capability just to justify the money spent to build and operate their rig.
Great video. The problem with people buying offroad rigs for overlanding is that they're then desperate to take them offroad, even if there's no need to. I hope to bring my Jimny to Norway soon and explore your country while sticking to the legal paths.
I was like "wait you are allowed to just drive throw there" and "oh that was probably the point" I really hope these people get serios consequences. It is unbelievable how disrepectfull people can be.
Yeah, and that’s exactly the point Hah! People see stuff like this online for a few seconds and make an assumption either that it’s OK to drive there or really bad. And the group thinking it’s ok, we don’t really want over here without them reading up first 🤝
I never got the clue, why overland vehicles become bigger and bigger. Ever since I bought my first Land-Rover back in 1973, I've never travelled in bigger off-roaders than a 110". No roof racks or roof tents. Keep the LR as low and light as possible. Most of today's overlanders are overloaders too. Worst I've seen was a 61-year-old lady in a 8x8 camper truck! Get back to reality, guys! KIS! BTW: nice Discovery you have, Kasper!
Yeah no need for more than a 110 here! Actually bought a 109 that I will replace the discovery with to travel in full time! Old, slow, loud but really cool 😎🤝
@@kasperhoglund Well, the 109" HT is cool and good-looking. I had several of them, but I never regret the change to a 1985 OneTen HT back in 2003. Now with a 200 Tdi it can flow with the traffic. The ride comfort (safety) is better, and it need not a whole air field to turn around. The big plus the HT has over the STW, is the possibility to add two or three storages boxes into the body side. Gives a lot of space inside for work, sleeping etc. With a fox awning, you can use the outdoor area. And without a roof tent, the LR is just 210 cm high. Good luck and have fun!
Austrian here, thanks Kasper for your Video! My girlfriend and I visitet Norway and Sweden this year with our VW t5 California! We need to say that your nature is one of the most amacings I have ever seen! Such an beautiful landscape which needs to be protected!
Hey, you are absolutely right about that ego-driven Adventure-Hype with Offroad Cars. If i am not allowed to i will simply not do it, and i am not feeling bad about it. Lets leave the car on the lane and take the real adventures without them, they shouldn´t be the center of attention at all times. Always respect nature first.
Climbing hasn’t been able to keep up with the growth and we have struggled to police ourselves this way, especially in the last three years. It’s really gotten out of hand. I commend your effort.
@@kasperhoglund It protects the environment, it also goes a long way to protecting access for recreation. There’s quite a few places where I’ve climbed in the US where people were left to manage themselves and now it is regulated due to growth and misuse. It’s harder for the climbing community and burdensome on local governments who now have to deal with it, or we just lose access.
It's so common nowadays to see people go to a country, say they enjoy it but leave it absolutely trashed. Sad to see that is what happens now as there are genuine people out there who have respect for what they are visiting
Perfect video! I'm a Swedish Jeep Wrangler owner and kayaker. I'm often in northern Norway and Sweden (and all over Europe). In just a few years a lot of side roades are closed where you used to be able to go into for night camping. And that was not offroading, just staying on a parking or camping spot. Now, many, many are closed and the few still open are full of German overlanders, campervans or mobile homes. Sometimes they are staying for days so the local people can't park there for a day hike because it's no more space. I've also seen German canoers making a base camp on some island for a week. Smaller groups are allowed to stay one or two nights but not occupying the land! And as you say this bad behaviour is spreading to Danes, Swedes and many other nationalities. WE all have to act responsible and follow the rules.
👊 respect to you for calling it out in such an educational and informative manner. It is a massive problem as you say, some times it is through not knowing, but sadly I believe this is a minority, after all, as you mentioned there is a lot of signage. Same goes here in NZ
I dunno what exactly it is about German tourists, but i see a lot of them generaly behaving like complete jabronis here in Greece as well. They come here, get drunk, shout/laugh loudly during inappropriate times of the day/night, litter around and generally show zero respect or courtesy to anybody. And then they turn around and act all high and mighty, and like they are so civilized and us the greeks should be honored they even bothered to come spend their money here, and like we owe them something. I can't help but wonder if they would ever act like that inside the borders of their own country, i don't think the authorities there would turn a blind eye to this kind of debauchery.
Where ever you are on holiday,always remember that you're a guest visiting. Be humble,polite follow the rules and respect the people... Even if you don't agree with some of the rules or way of thinking. If you can't behave like this,please stay home. You've dealt with this very maturely and how they responded to your DMs and emails was very telling. They do it all for their own views and benefits
Another German here. I love & respect your country and I’m very sorry and ashamed for my fellow Germans. Unfortunately only a few are enough to ruin the reputation of a population. Believe me the most of us are respectful ❤. Beste Grüße nach Norwegen.
Doesn't matter where you're from, there is always people who just don't think about the consequences. The only thing this time is that they were from Germany. I don't think we are any better than anyone else tbh 😅 I've been to Germany through a school trip in 2012, working at vattenfall for two weeks and going on trips to see a hockey game (sickest thing ever!), a few bars, testing out the night life there and going for a tour at the VW factory in Dresden (absolutely beautiful factory). All the people there was very nice and welcoming and made it a trip I will never forget ❤
Dritbra Kasper.. dette er ett kjempeproblem her i Australia og... det er altid noen som gjør det de ikke skal og verre enn det. Uansett, kudos for å bringe dette opp! Håper en dag å kunne reise hjemover overlanding fra Australia og ende opp hjemme på besøk! Uansett... ha en knall dag og weekend (what's left of it!). Keep on chugging on and kudos for great content! As they say... "Tread lightly... take only memories... and leave only footprints". As responsible 4x4'ers and overlanders, care for the environment is pivotal for us to continue being able to enjoy the outdoors like this!
Får si ifra da @@kasperhoglund! Er i Victoria her.. med Nissan 4x4 Club of Victoria.. plenty å se og gjøre... gearer opp til en lengre Kimberley tur .. og en Great Australian Bight og.. fra Esperance tilbake til South Australia.. exciting. Men IF you do, si ifra.. ;-)
2 weeks ago I travelled Norway by car with my wife. During overnight stay on secluded parking by the beautiful river some German RV with seemingly nice family also came to have a dinner and spend night there. To our surprise, next morning right after we had breakfast outside, these people released grey and toilet water right on the ground, producing bad smell in the area and left. This action kind of spoiled our opinion about German people who we believed were the most disciplined people in EU. It was shame to witness such disrespect to nature, in foreign country, and especially in such beautiful and pristine country as Norway.
Stuff like that always goes unnoticed because they leave before they can be held responsible for it! Good thing people are dumb enough to post illegal driving themselves on the internet now 🤝
I have lived in my RV all summer traveling around Norway and Sweden, and this is normal behavior from German campers.. Every Norwegian and Swedish camper I`ve talked to this summer is hating Germans more and more, because of them leaving every campsite like a trashdump, dumping black/gray water in the nature when they feel for it, being rude and acting like they own the country.
I really cant tell you why, but I don`t think they care about it since it isn`t their "home". Have seen they dump graywater 50m from the dumpsite, because it was too long waiting for the RV in front to empty... (yes I got yelled at for telling him what a pig he was by dumping on the asphalt)
I was traveling around Europe/Norway in my camper this summer and can definitely feel that the vibe is changing. One gorgeous place actually got a "camping prohibited sign" as I was staying there. Always respect local signs/laws and leave the place in pristine condition! Norway is almost the perfect place for campers, please keep it that way.
It’s been good for so long.. that people are starting to push the boundaries. And it’s causing issues for locals. One single beer can going into the field before collecting the grass to feed cows can lead into a bunch of hay thrown away or animals getting injured. So farmers and locals are putting up these signs in desorption to have space to do their job
@kasperhoglund I can only imagine. I would love to visit and tour around your beautiful country. Perhaps one day, I will get the opportunity. Keep up the great work, and keep educating so maybe there will be something left for others to enjoy.👍
As a german living on the canary islands I can say that many germans are doing the same here. I love to call them out for it as I mostly get an arrogant reaction out of them. And then the fun begins. I am not as diplomatic as you. great video. I like the edit.
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As a German who loves Norway (and speaks Norwegian) I apologise on behalf of our ignorant travellers. The last thing we need is another reason for the world to dislike us, especially one that is harmful to the environment in someone else’s country. Don't be afraid to keep doing what you're doing and even report these people, because something needs to be done. Love your content and your devotion to the morales, values, and actions that keep Norway so amazing. Tusen takk!
Tusen takk 🫶 I have nothing bat to say about Germans in general. But this seems to be a problem locally with more and more pökele wanting to travel like this. And everything being closed off and illegal there because of irresponsible manners. And now the problem is shifting elsewhere 🤝
@@kasperhoglund One of the reasons might be, that rules here are getting stricter ans stricter, therefore some of us behave like irresponsible idiots in other countries. One of the reasons I prefer not saying I am a German while in my vaccations. @Kasper: You did great, hand over suchs stuff to the police and hopefully the fine will be so immense, that people rethink their doing.
That's exacly the way I felt the last 8 months living in Norway! I really hope they get what they deserve!
@@n03m9 I feel that's part of the problem - many countries just move to stricter and stricter rules, instead of trying to make good compromises. Driving offroad is basically illegal almost everywhere in europe. Which I can understand in densely populated countries, but as a Finn I feel like in some countries is ample space to not resort to a blanket ban. A compromise where off-roading could/should be legal depending on the region (decided based on the type of nature, safety, animals, etc) would make more sense to me. Off-roading isn't just people trying to be cool and get instagram content - but it's a way to explore remote regions and untouched areas and enjoy nature. Not everyone has the time, money, or physical ability to mountainbike or hike to enjoy rural nature. And driving a vehicle offroad does not have to mean it's a polluting, noisy unimog. Realize that the ban considers as equal an electric motorbike or even e-bike, and a giant diesel truck. To me it's an activity that should require being responsible and educated, which happens with good regulation (like requiring a special license), that would be fine with me. Plenty of activities require licenses, like hunting, using explosives, etc, and I do believe some kind of compromise could be found.
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I live in Utah, in the United States. My state is a HUGE hotspot for off-roading and overlanding, possibly one of the biggest in the nation. We're having an increasing issue with people not following the "leave no trace" guidelines, or inexperienced people getting stuck or downright killed on our land. It's making things harder for the locals, it hurts to see the land that I love so grossly neglected.
I am sure it hurts the american nstuved to that they got taken away there land by foreigners.
Why is it an issue for people to get stuck. Pros get stuck all the time as well. Part of the learning procress
In my experience, it is more often than not the locals who litter and pollute areas more than visitors. I belong to a 4x4 organization and have seen members leave areas worse than they were before. Everyone gets stuck - not sure why you think that is an issue at all. If someone gets killed that is a tragic accident - though nothing to do with things getting harder for locals or off-roading unless it was on a trail system that no one should really be attempting without a crawler or moonbuggy. If you are hurt by the land get neglected - get your local 4x4 organization to do more and be Shepard of the trail systems or get out there yourself and start spreading the word to those you see who aren't.
@@corail53 In Utah it's definitely tourists that trash sites more than locals. Every single group I've gone with have had scouts that live by leave no trace
Colorado here. Same thing
I was into off-roading in the 90s in the USA. There was a motto to "Tread Lightly". Don't leave a trace of your passage. It's a shame that these days, with all of the information available that people still mess everything up for the responsible people.
Just a sign of the times. Our governments like the decaying civility and intellect.
Some common sense would go FAR
It's not possible to offroad and "leave no trace" when you are driving in a Unimog or similar vehicle. There are enough roads & tracks, if you want to leave them, hike.
@@kasperhoglund thanks for PSA and helping authorities enforce laws that don't restrict freedom but protect the landscape for everyone enjoy. Thanks for taking the time.
PS: really jealous from Canada
As an off roader from Canada we have so many legal amazing trails to drive but are loosing them because ppl won't stay on them and ether go bush whacking or just go onto private property that looks wild and rip it up. People like the MOG guy who just don't think laws apply to them are ruining it for everyone else.
@@philipocarrollExactly, people need to leave their house at home. I live in Alaska and people get bigger heavier off road vehicles which do nothing but tear up the trails. I have seen them get stuck and they ask me for assistance and I refuse to pull on anything over 1000 pounds.
As a German, I appreciate your message and actions! Idiots need tough lessons to comply. I have been "Overlanding" 25 years ago in your beautiful country and had no need to go offroad because there was just plenty of amazing places to see just by official roads, it permanently put Norway in place as one of my top countries to visit and ultimately made me end up living in Kanada, where we have the same issues, but a bit more space so it's less obvious.
Kanada? Like, Canada?
@@WretchedRedoran haha, yupp. My autocorrect can never figure out if I write German or English.. sorry 😉
@@ochjoo77 It's all good, no worries. If I may ask, which province/territory do you live in? I live in Canada too, so I'm just curious.
Also very put off by the K haha. Also, ‘a bit’ more space??
Fun fact, Canada comes from the Huron-Iroquois (first nations) word ''kanata'', which means ''village''. The ''k'' made me think of that lmao.
As a Belgian hiker who visited Norway 2 years ago, I think you did the right thing. Your country is still so free and beautiful, and it's because of guys like this we'd all lose this freedom. I plan to do a Norway roadtrip in the future, so it's great to know what the limitations are, and know about this situation, so I can make clear to the locals that I don't participate in this type of behaviour.
If you think Europe has it bad, just look at what influencers have done to sensitive ecological sites in India. It’s appalling how little some people care.
I mean Indians don’t care or respect India much less foreign visitors lol, I’ve been to India it’s uhh let’s say dirty to be polite.
Sorry to read this.
We have giant problems in occidental countries. Not only with influencers, but with the general public in regards for live and respects of locals.
Internet is making everything a show, and those shits would kill their grandmas for clicks.
In Switzerland, we have the pedophile and human trafficking scene that is growing by the day. It's sad.
I'm really thinking of quitting my life at this point, and going somewhere in the midst of the japanese mountains.
I didn't know this was a thing. What happened ?
@@Trashloot Stupid vain people and the internet has created a trend of stupid vain people filming themselves doing things that are deserving of being thrown into a wood chipper
Indians don't care them selves
Good job, Kasper and everyone who assisted in tracking them down.
The type of response you received from them is known as gaslighting, which shows the type of people they are.
If they are supported by any social media advertising, then the advertisers need targeting too.
Big help from locals and followers here. I looked trough but couldn’t find any logical “collaborations” they had to reach out to.
Gaslighting is the process of slowly convincing someone they are going insane in order to exert control over them, usually someone that loves and trusts the abuser. This is not gaslighting.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn you're probably thinking of the old use of the term. in recent years it has slowly changed to be used to describe general misdirection and subterfuge with malicious or selfish intent. the term sees use in this fashion predominantly on social media platforms.
I totally like how this was handled with utmost respect and class. A bow to you sir for standing up for what you believe in and how you calmly dish it out. As someone who had their land wrecked by a few "adventurers" i appreciate this.
Thanks 🤝
I don't think he handled this with class at all. He went even lower on the pettyness scale than the influencer by threatening to report him to the police by "sending his picture and all his personal info to them" lol. And for what? Bc he got blocked on instagram or bc the guy did something that lots of people do according to his own video? Then there is also the use of propaganda tactics like using the video of someone else in the background while reading the guys email response or by putting music behind it or reading it sarcastically. Yes, we get it - this influencer guy, like all influencers, is a hypocrite. But why single out this one guy when hes just part of a larger macro problem? Seems really petty and makes me question his honesty. Does he want to draw attention to the devastating effects of mass tourism, which exists in lots of places, or does he just want to preserve the privileges he has from being born into the rich and beautiful land of Norway? @@kasperhoglund
@doctornomnom6393 Sorry, to hear that your stuff got wrecked, but ownership brings responsibilities. Trashing and littering is obviously not okay at all, but "owning" something like land, real estate, factories or capital brings responsibilities with it. If you don't like that you can sell it or gift it away. After all land like all natural resources (e.g. oil and gas in Norway) can just be nationalized and turned into federal land or a national park at any time, if we the people chose to do it.
@@kasperhoglund You are far more patient than myself. It would not be too hard to immobilize these hulking machines and let them sort out repairs
Crazy that people aren’t taking responsibility for their actions!! It’s not that hard to say”oops didn’t realize and not do it again” but I guess when money and “fame” is involved the greed monster takes over. I hope that people can come to their senses and respect the land and local laws so everyone can still enjoy it! Loved this video!
🤝 agreed and thanks!
Same problems here in Canada.
- Social media just makes the situation all the worse... as they are all competing for that impressive video that will generate revenue $$
'turns on the news for .00001 second'
is it really crazy people aren't taking responsibility? thats not exactly a tenant of modern society.
Norwegian here, really appreciate that you inform the right autoritets about these people. Love our nature and hurts seeing these people violate it in such a disrespectful way
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As I German I can green light that.
Everyone can make a mistake or misunderstood a rule. And there are sometimes rules you can overlook, because you are hurting nothing.
But when getting informed about the mistake, and just ignore/block you is nothing else than "I know the rules"...and the reply to your email is literally telling "F U" in you face, as he didn't even jumped on the topics you wrote.
And we have those pigs here too, and they are responsible for the same...closing of camp and BBQ sites, because they leave all their trash, closing of roads for motorcycle because a few are just behaiving like idiots.
No reasonable person respects so-called landowners' claims to own land they do not maintain. This goes against all that property rights rest upon.
@@RUclips_Stole_My_Handle_Too landowners in Norway have all their land open for use 100% freely.
The right to roam allows us to walk and camp wherever it’s not farmed land or yards.
Liability issues is not a thing here either, so the land owner isn’t responsible for what happens on their land. So no need to close it down for that reason.
@@kasperhoglund I am fully aware of the free roaming laws in Norway and most of the Nordic countries. I am also fully aware of the limitation on motorized vehicles.
Thanks for using your platform to address these issues
🫶 thanks
Hi Kasper,
as a German who is into Overlanding, Outdoor and Offroad stuff, I feel particularly ashamed for „my“ people - also noticed the term „German camping“, which really hits me hard.
This summer, my son and me went to Sweden and Norway for a few days and really enjoyed a great time. Being able to pitch a tent or a tarp „pretty much everywhere“ for the night is a luxury, but also brings responsibility - to leave a place (at least) as pristine as it was before, be responsible with (even small) fire, take everything you brought (and probably some extra litter) with you. I guess it comes down to knowing what one‘s doing, and just doing it right and respectful.
For the Offroading, anyone with minimum training and sufficient budget can drive a military-grade vehicle (as the KAT and Unimog shown in the vid) through pretty much any terrain. That‘s not skill, that‘s not cool, that‘s just plain dumbassery. There are rally and trophy events for stuff like that, as well as dedicated terrains.
When one is travelling, and local people are monitoring him and waiting for him to finally leave the country, he is obviously doing it wrong.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Björn
Swede here, living in the US. I’ve been fearing this for a long time, and I’m sad to see it happening. Sweden, Norway, and Finland are an overlander’s paradise. GPS and social media have ruined many places by making them so popular that they get overrun by people. There are no secret places left. We have the same problems here in the US. I frequently see people ignoring fire bans for example. And you’re almost certain to find trash in fire rings and around campsites. As a result, we lose access to a lot of beautiful places every year.
Yeah it’s definitely changing quite fast these days. A shame considering how free and open the Scandinavian land owners has been for everyone. Local or tourists
You forgot about Iceland 😢, here’s the same or even worse. Not only people drive offroad but they can’t drive on the road. Suddenly stopping because of some random view, renting a motorhome they can’t drive etc
Been following this on Instagram mate, you're absolutely in the right, in Scotland loads of "green lanes" have locked gates and it was due to inconsiderate people leaving waste and destroying the surrounding area. Good to see you bringing awareness to the problem!
Cheers! Yeah stuff like this is just putting a stop to this for everyone using common sense
I was just thinking that it's a shame that we don't have vehicular access rights in Scotland but having watched this I am now glad that we dont.
The best one a are idiots starting a camp fire on peat grounds
You are very lucky you have been lanes in the UK here in ireland we just have beaches in very remote places that are commonages but sadly the locals are pissed off with the scumbags leaving trash etc
so les places to go and feel welcome
Scotland does not have green laining it never has. Land is privately owned only allowed access with land owners consent.
my family was big into off roading here in brazil in the early 2000s we even accompanied some stages of the Sertões rally a few times (one of the biggest in the world) and since i was a child i learned the motto to leave only your tracks and take only your thrash. it is truly astonishing how some people cannot get this basic principle on off roading especially now with the overlanding boom on social media so thanks for your work calling out these guys and trying to raise awareness to this issue
Hey Kasper,
as a fellow german who lived and worked in northern Norway it's such a shame to see this.
Especially in the Lofoten/Senja area it's gotten so bad over the last few years and I think it will not be long before it's restricted to even sleep for a night in a designated parking lot.
I've met so many great and responsible people on my trips but it's always the 1% who ruin it for everyone. Sometimes I really wish I had a different license plate since I'm getting thrown into the same pot with those people.
I'm moving back to Tromsø in December and looking forward to spend the rest of the winter in this beautiful landscape.
Thanks for the video and you trying to raise awareness about this problem!
Yeah had a few years in Lofoten and it’s just getting worse. This summer up there I saw a bunch of local farmers closing off camps for good due to a overflow of people. As you know, space is limited there. And farmers do comes first! So there is just a question of years until free camping there is the rare occasion
Since the occupation by the All lies, Germany is just a puppet of the group who runs the USA. Most values, morals and culture is getting lost in Germany due to mass immigration and traidors as politicians in the EU and Germany. The german spirit of law and order and community is getting lost and it is a shame. 50 years back, germans were one of the most orderly and rule obiding people.
the «1%» is a massive understatement. It is not only a few bad behaving, the reality is that the wast majority of German visitors who are the problem. This summer I spent two day on the volunteer community camp on Hauklandstranda, a very remote beach with many international awards. The community in the municipality has built toilets to stop the degradation all the visitors put on the place. Since very few people live here there is little tax income and infrastructure in this municipality. So the toilets are built by a locally organised non profit. On the two days i spent here, the trend was devastatingly obvious and also interesting from an anthropological viewpoint. The Norwegians in the toilet line, payed the fee of about 1 euro, with many people in the line, they closed the door and did not hold it open for the next, the German visitors who represented the majority of visitors where very upset by this. Why did they not hold the door open so they did could get away without paying? Not a very friendly guest, person to person. The Norwegians close door with pride, as we pay our taxes with pride, and see the bigger picture. It is the social responsible thing to do, this facility on the edge of the world does not clean and empty itself and we are grateful to have it there so it needs support. Paying for camping and parking here is also voluntary, and guess what, almost only Norwegian tourists pay. Norway has a very small population and I believe the future will be to prohibit foreign motorhomes entrance over our borders. Thankfully we are not part of EU and have some say on our own.
@@davidgallefoss1254 The EU- dictatorship has degenerated most of Europes original population. Stay out of it as long as you can. It is a evil system who takes the power away from the people and enslaves them.
@@davidgallefoss1254 Same story in Iceland. I'm more than happy to support a local farmer with a campground with hot showers and a nice location. Some others take pride in being cheap free loaders without real need to be.
German here - and I'm so ashamed and so sorry for my "fellow countrymen". God dammit, it's not that hard to educate yourself of local rules and follow them. There's this huge boom of unimocs and similar big "cars" here - and I really don't understand the appeal? If you're not trying to cross Antarctica then why does anyone need such a thing? It only destroys anything in its way. Not trying to defend German campers here - just...angry I suppose.
Can only agree with you, another German here
I also send them the video on Instagram 👍🏻 But I don't think they'll reply
Thanks! Don’t want to come off as negative to Germans since all of my favorite travel and car people are Germans. But this is definitely a weird trend going on down there primarily with these huge rigs.
Might be useful in some rocky and sand covered landscapes. But on a single lane road in a small Norwegian town they’re just obnoxious.
Thanks for understanding and sharing the frustration!🫶
@@tjorbenborchers thanks for that!🫶 by this point I don’t even need a reply. I just know they’re going to see this in one way or another!
@@kasperhoglund Here again a German,... fuck it, so many of this type of truck's just do not understand it because it's reason away they do not care, the main thing they have the action with their badass off-road vehicle. What you are doing here, education, is important and good as you do it. Maybe one or the other finally think about it.
I even remember being a kid in the mid 90`s , camping with my grandparents, they would sometimes say "look at these Germans how they come about." I was too young to understand what they meant, but I suppose they didnt just make it up
Damn! I am so sorry for the my fellow countryman's misbehave!
I hope that they got heavily fined for that. Thanks for your effort!
🤝 thanks
It's awesome that social media has helped showcase these beautiful places, but we definitely gotta make sure it doesn't love 'em to death. Respecting each country's rules, leaving campsites better than we found them, and avoiding messing up the environment - those should be no-brainers for anyone who cares about keeping overlanding alive. And you're so right that content creators gotta walk the walk when it comes to ethics and setting a good example. As always great content! Thanks!
Definitely giving these guys the chance to stand up when we all call bullshit 🤝
Make enjoying nature accessible.
If you have a truck like that, it's got to be so tempting... I have to admit.
As someone from the Netherlands building a small 4x4 to travel to the north this winter, thank you for the information, I'll be sure to keep this in mind!
Awesome! Bring a heater 🌝🫶🏼
Just stay out, we are tierd of both you and the germans
Randomly had this show up in my feed, but really appreciate your measured attitude and tone in this video, as well as the fact that you're taking actual action to try and protect the beautiful nature landscapes of your country.
I was hiking the trail of tongariro national park in NZ - next to 'Mt Doom* (Lord of the Rings) Its fairly popular for tourists and everyone keeps their voices down and music to zero to respect each others journey. At the peak of the mountain while enjoying lunch, a bunch of German tourists(4 girls) thought it would be fun to blast their music as they walked. We heard it clearly across the valley and i asked them nicely to turn off the speaker (when they finally passed us) and they just laughed and kept on walking. It was so annoying and infuriating having to hear their trashy music for the next 4 hours.
In germany we dislike those people, too. Unfortunately, this type of people (in Germany we call them the stereotypical "Lisa" ) are the ones who are most likely to follow some gloryfied instagram lifestyle.
Lisa geht mir aufn sack!@@musicismypseudonym
take the speaker and smash it, they wont be able to pick up their phones and start filming before its gone anyways XD
Yeah would make me super angry
Ignorant girls
would have thrown speaker. You're a better man than I.
I'm glad someone is speaking out about these crazies who don't respect nature. The problem is not only in Norway but is growing everywhere because of social media influence. Thanks for your videos
Doing my part 🤝
Well said… I’m glad you’ve taken time to reflect on the situation and how it’s impacted our greater community. Thank you - JP
As a Norway lover and overlander for many years, it sends shivers down my spine when I see this. I don't know what I find worse: the thing itself or the absolute ignorance towards the messages and not showing any will to delete the videos. We also have this problem in Germany. Since the pandemic, everyone only wants to travel individually and especially in the Alps we now have too much tourism. People flock to the mountains en masse, leaving behind a lot of rubbish and disturbing the sensitive landscape. Most hikers' car parks now have no overnight stays.
But what shocks me most is to learn that there is a separate term specifically for German campers. Just recently, during our trip to Albania, I called on people on my channel not only not to leave any rubbish behind, but also to collect other rubbish. I find it hard to imagine that only German campers leave rubbish at campsites.
I think many countries have to struggle with the problem of too many tourists. Many people simply bring many problems with them.
I could write a lot more about the problem here, but in the end I would like to keep it short: I condemn this behaviour in nature and am very disappointed that German channels are involved. Shame on you! I hope that the next time we visit Norway we won't be labelled "German campers" from the start, because I don't identify with that in any way.
Greetings from Germany,
Azze
There is a video here on RUclips somewhere of a German guy on motorcycle that drove over over the mountain through a national park on hiking trails, partly muddy leaving huge tracks.
I commented that this is not allowed in Norway, that the fine for the first offence is 24.000 NOK now I think and the police can also confiscate the vehicle used and that would be an even bigger "fine"
He replied that he didn't know, but also that he simply didn't care ..... 😮💨
This is becoming more and more a problem.
One thing is not knowing. It’s the not caring that really is a large issue!
This Video hits badly into my German heart and I deeply apologize! I saw it two days ago and it still haunts me. I feel so ashame for my countrymen or - even worse - for being a German Camper. But it shows even more: the perversity of social media and the difference of staging and living a livestyle.
Therefore I decided to sent this clip with some words to a big German Newspaper called Zeit, hoping they find it as unbelievable as I do and write an article about this. Thanks for sharing your impressions about the behavior of Germans in other countries although it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Das trifft den Nagel auf den Kopf. 👍🏻
Es ist traurig zu sehen wie Landsleute mit ihrem tonnenschweren 300000€ Spielzeug, mit absoluter Respektlosigkeit durch die Landschaft pflügen und nicht mal in der Lage sind die landestypischen Gesetze für so etwas zu kennen.
In Marokko scheint das egal zu sein, sollen die sich dahin verpi*en mit diesen Monstern von Fahrzeugen.
Aber manche müssen halt ein ganzes Haus dabei haben, weil ein normales Fahrzeug ist dafür ja zu klein.
Ein Hilux Fahrer.
Sorry @Kasper for such kind of people from my country. It's a shame like hell... 🫣
Lovely Video,
I'm from Germany, and I cannot express how ashamed I am for the people from my country coming to yours and just ignoring laws, disturbing nature, and creating a bad reputation for us.
Due to a work trip, I will be spending October in Norway, and I hope to catch some of that beautiful nature there.
Cheers.
October here is lovely! If it’s not raining haha. Thanks 🙏
Jaja, heul rum. In Deutschland wirst du wieder kleinkariert jeden verpfeifen der einen Feldweg benutzt.
Thank you for bringing this up in such a calm and factual way. Germany has a large scene of 4WD-truck-drivers, but most come to see nature, not to crush it. You're already at 210.000 views, and I hope you'll reach even more.
you can't see nature in a 2 tonne plus 4x4 without crushing it. it's virtually impossible. they're ruining what they've come to explore.
@@fragfarmerCA You can if you stay on the road.
@@nicdesbias Only because nature has already been crushed on said road. But obviously this is a thousand times better than plowing trough unharmed territory.
That being said, all kinds of human exploration has a negative impact on nature. So responsible overlanding is nothing i would shame.
@@nicdesbias On normal dirt roads, a VW Caddy is perfectly adequate. you don't need monster trucks. Where the road ends, you can enjoy nature on foot.
Explain how driving over rocks in deflated tires harms anything? You could drive over me with that thing
We just had our first „Skandinavia Trip“ after 10 Years. The Scandinavia I knew, did no longer exist. I think a big problem are actually the Apps Like „Park4Night“. Seeing foreigners complete block ways to lakes, with no chance for locals to go for a swim, broke my heart. Talking to these people showed me, they were not aware of this problem. This shows, how important videos like yours are!
Slash the tires to send a signal, or let them do as they please at your expense
@@KuopassaTv Life isn't about 0-100. It is a gradient. Slashing their tires will send them the message that you're just another eco-terrorist. Surprisingly, if you just speak to people, most aren't super defensive like this.
@@KuopassaTv As the video above shows, there are already enough a$$hole$ in the world. Your not going to make it a better place by joining their ranks.
I was visiting a friend in Sweden and we tried to go to a local lake in his town and swim. Upon arrival a foreign camper (white licence plate with a D) demanded us to leave because it was 'their spot'...
That is why I don't share the important "secret places" so NOBODY knows❤❤❤❤
I used to love offroading, slowly and responsably. It was forbidden in my region of Italy around ten years ago now. I ended up selling the Defender and becoming a Corolla owner in the end, like you mentioned ;) It's so sad to see that now those trails are not really maintained, but what really matters is: if you don't like laws like these, vote if you can. Don't just act like they don't apply to you. Otherwise, they might become even more oppressive laws and regulations that only affect those who obey them.
The Nr1 priority should be to protect nature though.
This type of ignorance/egoism destroys so many things for the coming generations. In my youth we used to camp at a lake 10km away. The municipality had put there a parking area, some large trash bins and a sign which simply asked to use the trash bins. It also was completely free.
But handling a trash-bin was too difficult for many people and now it´s forbidden to even take a bath in that lake.
I've read all the stories and watched the video. These people are insane, insane for being so disrespectful to nature and to be so thirsty of a pinch of social media fame. You're doing the right thing. keep going
Thanks for paying attention 🙏
100% report them to the Police! Obviously they do not care what locals think hence the blocking of you so you need to do this for your fello country men and women. 👍
Hi here is a Swiss Overlander
You absolute right.
Follow the rules and a real Overlander protects Nature. If you need to go hard off-road go on tracks made for it.
You can go enough real off road when the judgment day is here.
PS: leave the camping spot always cleaner as you entered
That is called wasting the polices time. You would call whomever their land stewards are - in north america it would be fisheries or parks.
@@51KTM51Hurricane Real overlanders do not protect nature at all. Don't delude yourself.
German here and I agree 100%.
Veldig bra! Takk for at du fremhever disse problemene på en sakelig og gjennomført måte. Ser frem til å følge deg videre.
Great video and information Kasper, thank you. I am Swedish and i love Norway. Having travelled there for many years now for the sheer beauty, I always want to respect the laws and the fragile nature. Keep it up, I fully support you!
Cheers to that neighbor 🇳🇴🫶🏼🇸🇪
Well said Kasper - from Australia, same problem, but here its fellow Australians. It only takes a very small minority to ruin it for the majority. I imagine the reason that Germans are so prominent is there are a lot of Germans travelling to Norway and not that Germans per se are arrogant and feel they are above the law. Its not a race thing, its a human thing.
Yeah I’d you look at Europe as a continent.. imagine the crowded city being Central Europe. And the Nordic’s behind the outback.
Of corse everyone will flock over here, but doing it incorrectly leaves everyone unhappy with nowhere to drive.
It's neither a race or human thing, it's an occupation thing.
The German people have been absolutely destroyed after the war and her metaphorical fields have been salted by destroying the people's morality and brainwashing them with liberal and materialistic propaganda. Ruthlessly perusing selfish hedonistic goals has replaced obedience and service to the national community. I hope we all brake this spell soon and retake both our lands and our spirit since this evil is not only effecting Germany but all nations falling under America's demonic influence.
As another Aussie, I have noticed that German backpackers doing vanlifing up the East Coast do tend to camp anywhere and leave litter.
But they're weirdly neat about it and normally gather it together or bag it. I just assumed that's what they do at home.
Also as an avid 4wder/overlander of 15 years, RTTs do significantly less ground damage (in my experience).
We have no need to leave the marked roads other than finding a camp.
Look up the CREB Track to see what our legal roads are 😂
In Canada, we’ve done it to ourselves. Off roading and random camping are legal so anywhere nice is overrun with large RV’s towing trailers with bikes and quads that turn everything to mud and dust. To mitigate the erosion, foresters need to lay down fallen timber along the roads and place large boulders to block motorized access to sensitive areas.
@@bravotwozero535 Its easier for the demoralized to just pick a group of people and put the blame on them. Especially when that group of people will grovel before you at the first sign of annoyance because of the past. It's kind of sad how he singles them out like they're the only ones doing it. We all know that's completely untrue. I guess OP just had some personal experiences he wants to vent to the world.
As a Kiwi (New Zealander) living in the Netherlands, i know exactly what you meant in this video. There was a scandal a few years ago where some travelers from a country (which used to be part of the european union) came to a popular beach in Auckland and spent the day making a huge mess. So much so that they caused national uproar, were banned from visiting New Zealand in the future and were even ordered to leave the country. I visited Norway in 2020 and fell in love with it. Your videos have inspired me to start my own travel journey so now i'm saving up to buy an Amarok. Cant wait to see even more of the gorgeous Norwegian countryside.... legally of course.
It's always those few people who make a mess and the entire community is being punished. No matter if those are overlanders, sport car drivers, motorbike drivers or football supporters. Sad reality. Hope this turns out good. You're doing an awesome job, Kasper.
Thanks man 🤝
Agree on this! I saw so many of these huge trucks in Morocco, you literally are just driving a mansion on wheels. They are literally just like the people that pay a lot of money to get to Mt Everests summit yet have never stepped foot on a mountain before
Yeah. And one thing is open dunes in Northern Africa. Here with small Norwegian single lane roads they’re actually really useless for traveling hah
I thought the whole reason to over-landing was to live and experience it, to live as near to nature as possible, not to drag a five star hotel room on the back of an HGV, you might as well just fly these and stay in a real hotel.
@@gilbert7794 That’s what I mean, it’s literally to me just wealthy people trying to fit in with adventurous folk but being weak enough to not be able to let go of the comforts they are all to used to
As a German living in South Africa I am ashamed of the behavior of these two guys. We have the same issues in South Africa and Namibia with "overlanding " trucks from Europe being recklessly driven where they are not allowed just for that Instagram video. If you look at the cost of the two vehicles in question I am sure the owners can afford a hefty fine so report them.
As a German currently "overlanding" in a vw caddy trough Norway, wich btw is probably the most amazing experience I've ever had, I also noticed the state of campsites all over the country. Best example shit and toilet paper everywhere.
It really hurts to see stuff like that and I would absolutely understand if there is a ban or limitations of some sorts coming that would restrict the possibilies of vehicular travel in Norway.
I personally feel ashamed that I'm from the same town as the guy in the grey truck.
Also props to you for going after these guys 👍
Not wanting to drag all under the same brush, since my favorite and best example of good travelers are German! But like you clearly see in a lot of places it’s getting bad. Which is really sad considering it’s all FREE and open to use.
Enjoy your travels here man! A caddy is basically the perfect size and setup here 🤌
@@kasperhoglund Thanks.
I'm really happy with the caddy, although I also dream about having a Land Cruiser to see some more incredible places.
But the caddy has proven itself to be surprisingly capable on light off road stuff..
And like anything else it's a few people ruining it for everyone. Because they think the rules don't apply to them
@@vinc_ck6451Caddy are reall cool. The best way to see more incredible places is of course to walk.
Near where i live in Norway i’v seen one foreigner start making a trash pile and then all the other campers just start using it as well. Of course most the blame lies with the campers, but i feel like the local government could also easily do more when they know it’s a camping hotspot. They could make bigger trash bins and collect them more often.
Hi Kasper, following your videos from Luxembourg,
Thank you for sharing this story with everyone! One of my golden rules for traveling to remote places is to leave a place in the same way I found it in or in a better state, depending on how polluted it is, which I'm trying to preach to everyone I meet along the way. I always carry rubbish bags with me an sometimes take out more than I brought.
I would love to visit your beautiful country as well and I would be highly interested in knowing more about the rules you briefly touched on.
Thank you for bringing awareness.
If we all stick together and respect the nature and people, we can keep the tracks we love to travel on, open for others to see. Good on ya!
Il do more stuff spreading awareness sins there’s obviously a lot of people that needs education 🤝😅
I applaud your efforts in showing these matters to the public!
I was born and raised in Southern Patagonia in Argentina, and it's mostly an untouched place, with wonderful wilderness and beautiful landscapes like in Norway (which I happened to visit last year).
What you say is true, social media has brought a lot of attention to these wonderful places and we see more and more people visit sometimes just for content, which is fine, but so long as they respect the locals and the environment.
It's sad to see, but I've seen a lot of tourists leave trash or not respect the local laws, even from the most developed countries.
Thanks for your content and I hope you can visit Patagonia someday, it's breathtaking, like your country.
Cheers!
I unfortunately know this kind of story all too well. The same thing has been happening all over the world, including in my neighborhood. Maybe you've heard of Sedona, Arizona in the US. There is an entire network of forest roads where you could camp for up to two weeks in one of the most beautiful places in the world. Now, there are a couple of large dirt areas where you can set up camp, and the rest of the entire area is day use only for the trails. It's happening over and over with so many incredible places in the western US because there are just too many people breaking the rules, driving off the trails, and leaving trash. There are volunteer groups that try to keep places clean, but the government and the locals are only going to tolerate so much before areas are closed. It's such a shame. Worst part is, it's our own neighbors who are trashing our public lands, not even people from other countries.
I really feel for you and hope that you can get this problem under control in your own home before such a good thing is ruined for everyone. Tusen takk for the video and the awareness!
I fear it's the same everywhere. A small group of irresponsible people end up spoiling it for everyone.
Yeah. Sad to see honestly!
Same in the USA too. Keeping these places pristine and safe is everyone's responsibility. Do no harm, leave it like you found it.
@@jamestaylor9258luckily things are a lot better in the US. I think we just respect our trails a bit more.
@@AustinH7That's honestly so strange to think. That America takes better care of it's forest trails than a European country.
We thought that only our country was having deterioration of its protected areas by overlanders. Thank you for uploading this video, cheers from Guatemala!!!
Well put together video and your approach to dealing with this issue is respectable. We have similar problems in America with this, many overlanders fall into one of 3 categories here,
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1) they are looking for social media views and have never been off road
2) they just want to know everyone's secret camp spots so they can impress their friends and have a wild party which leaves trash everywhere
3) they actually think overlanding is blazing trails through the wilderness...
The weird part is, we have designated off road areas in America, paid for with grant money and maintained by enthusiasts... they refuse to go to these easy to find off road areas (the government even gives you a free map of where they are) and insist on going to the pristine areas to trash them...
As a Norwegian where we do not have much places to drive.. this amazes me because I would be so grateful for some designated spots!
Hey Kasper, as a long-time off-road enthusiast what you are saying rings true for the UK too. We have "By-ways" that are free for access (Salisbury Plain being a big one and my local area) as long as your vehicle is legal but people take advantage of this, most of the time if its misused then local government will close this road. As someone that would like to visit the Nordic countries at some point soon, its good that you brought these things to light. Good job man, love your content. Keep it up!
I’m planning a trip to Scotland and has been reading reales and local issues with campers for weeks. Even though I haven’t set a date. Should be common practice to read up. And a shame when people mess it up, either locals or touristsz
@@kasperhoglund Enjoy, its a wonderful place! Most of the Scottish laws are straight forward for the most part.
@kasperhoglund Scotland has very different access laws to England including trespassing. In Scotland, like Norway, you can walk cycle and pitch a tent practically anywhere that's not someone's garden. There are no vehicular access rights without the landowners permission, so forget overlanding. We don't have byways and green lanes like in England. I live on the edge of the Cairngorms national park and I am glad we have these laws.
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All true except you should always be courteous and ask land owners permission when possible, farms for example 👍
Great video.
Come up to Tromsø, we have so many boulders and barricades along the coastline you'd think we were half expecting an invasion by sea, but it's all because of campertrailers parking where they're not supposed to.
Granted we have 1 camping site in Tromsø and it's always very full, but there are several just half an hour driving outside of the city limits.
There are a couple of hidden treasures, coveted by taxi drivers who need a place to stand for short durations or for a little cowboy-nap (there aren't enough taxi ranks in the city for all the taxis anyways, a different problem but kinda related). If you ever find yourself in a situation where the camping site is full, and there are dragon teeth and boulders every place else, ask a taxi driver if he knows of a place where there's space for 1 car for 1 night. At the very least he'll point you to the 2nd closest camping site 30 kilometers north.
Yeah the city’s and town up north can see this on a much larger scale during summers. A “hidden” flock of campers coming in trough the Swedish highway that southerners in Norway don’t notice. So they’re left standing here saying it’s not “that many” campers around..
Obviously, the north is the place to go!
Completely sympathise with this mate and well done. We have exactly the same problem in the UK - in Wales I'm frequently encountering monster truck conversions and overlanders in inhabited/very remote areas that are in fact very small before you reach a town. This has led to a lot of land damage, noise pollution, and landowners erecting gates where there previously were none, limiting access for those who simply want to drive to a location on a track and park to hike. Great inspiration for thinking about how others can do something about it in our area. Thanks 🙏
That is the entire point of overlanding though- to drive in remote and fairly uninhabited places.
@@corail53 I love overlanding and have done it in many places where there are vast uninhabited areas. Where I'm referring to in Wales/England are not actually actually very big spaces of uninhabited nature, they feel more remote than they are, meaning the influx new overlanders and the set up of a lot of rigs are destroying tracks/wider environment off road where they shouldn't be driving, causing barriers on these access roads for all.
Agree, people who visit beautiful places need to respect the place and leave it clean. The same goes for our cities and public parks. In my neighbourhood, there are several lovely parks, and each time we have a sunny day, people visit in large numbers, and unfortunately, not all of them take their rubbish with them or dispose of it appropriately. Thanks for highlighting this issue.
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Thanks Kasper for bringing up this issue. We live in the north of Sweden and we are also afraid things like this will happen more and more. It's up to everybody (locals and tourists with good intentions) to keep their eyes open for the few who have no respect and make them clear it's not acceptable.
I think it's terrible that videos like this have to be made, but I really like they way you've gone about it. More people need to be made aware of the rules and regulations since overlanding really picked up steam, but examples also need to be made and there has to be consequences for the people that blatantly break them. The world needs more people like you, who not only hold yourself accountable for your actions, but also maker others answer for theirs. Much love as always, you're a true inspiration :)
Thanks for that! Definitely not a video I’d plan on making. But set off the weekend to just do this because they wouldn’t listen 😑🤌
Great video and I appreciate the work you have put into it! Fun fact: They have removed the "river passing" in their Insta Story...
How convenient. It’s all saved and sent to the local fermers and nature reservation team in the municipality there. So that just a sign of guilt 🤝😎
I am a German who loves the north, speaks Swedish and is always horrified by how my compatriots in the north behave. Most people only know the term “everyman’s right” from the title, but apparently not from the content.
I used to often go kayaking and canoeing in Dalsland, Värmland and Åland with my family. It wasn't usually a problem to camp somewhere if you bothered to ask the owner (which is of course easier if you know the local language).
But the natural way in which many of my compatriots use the landscape (making fires, fishing, leaving rubbish and shitting in the bushes) means that freedom of movement and hospitality is rightly declining.
I'm now more drawn to the Baltic States and Poland, where the camper crowd isn't that strong yet.
Thanks for your video, hopefully it spreads further.
Med vänliga hälsningar och tusen tack!
Hey Kasper, Tristan from Australia here! Just wanted to show my support for using your platform to speak up and call out these people who do the wrong thing. As you know, the same thing is happening all over the world and if it continues, it’ll ruin things for those of us overlanders who try to do the right thing. Love your channel mate, keep the great content coming!
Thanks for standing behind this from a land people probably also assume you can drive a lot more off road than what is actually legal!
Our laws do differ a bit as far as where you’re allowed to drive off-road in Australia, we do probably have a bit more freedom here. The main issue for us is people disrespecting the bush by tearing up tracks and leaving their rubbish behind. Already we’ve seen plenty of tracks being closed due to this behaviour. But I hope there’s a culture shift so this changes all over the world!
@@kasperhoglund It's actually not an option here. We have whole towns that don't enjoy year round road connections. I myself live some way from a posted road. Out here, if you broke down. A couple of Germans in a luxury Dakar truck would be a welcome sight. lol In a country where you can get a speeding ticket on a beach in a National Park. The idea of just blanket banning off roading seems like a massive kick in the nuts to the 90+% of people who would do it respectfully. Are you going to tell me you wouldn't trust yourself to use trails responsibly?
Hi Kasper, Such a well put together video, on a huge topic, here in the Highlands of Scotland, we have the same issue, though with the added insult of motorhomes, thiniking they can park up anywhere and empty there toilets anywhere!! The respect for nature and wild lands seems to be missed by most!! All the best David
Sad to see! I’ve been planning a trip to Scotland and have been reading up for ages and also read up on the locals frustration with campers .. even before setting a date for the visit!
This is the same issue that I have with quads in rural Canada where I live. Not only do blocked exhausts start wildfires, there are also delicate ecosystems that are being ruined by travelling off trail. Lots of sand just below the surface in spots means that once the sand is uncovered, the vegetation on top can't recover from the constant traffic.
Atv users also don't obey non-motorized trails (and then go off trail) causing landowners to block access to the trail through their property.
I'm glad you posted this video to bring awareness to an issue that is not only a regional problem.
This happens in the USA as well and is not a new phenomena, though the Covid travel restrictions certainly made it worse.
For someone visiting Norway, can you suggest where best to obtain information about off-highway (on-trail) rules and proper etiquette guidelines? Local overlanding groups and/or official regulation sites?
Cool that you bring that up! On our last trip to Norway, we witnessed three super cool spots being closed with barriers and signs. Reasons: Litter, damaged land, overconfidence and then partly cheeky behaviour... the problem: every prohibition sign that is put in place, is never taken away again.
You just simply walk up to the sign and throw it away
Takk for innsatsen, det er virkelig en god måte å sette fokuset på et problem uten å virke anmassende eller belærende. I tillegg er kvaliteten høy, så det gjorde inntrykk på noen som ellers ikke er spesielt begeistra for natur og friluft (som meg). Håper å se like høy kvalitet i kommende videoer!
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Hi Kasper, a fellow Norwegian here (and subscriber/fan of your content), trucks like those are pointless in Norway and most places anyway, what's the point of such overbuilt monster trucks when the worst kinds of roads they are likely to drive on are gravel roads that can probably be driven on almost as well as any 2wd car with some ground clearence.
Keep up the great work. :)
Less practical than a Audi A4 with a camper trailer. Like you say, it’s no use for it. And maneuvering that on a single lane road at the west coast is wild 😂🤝
I always found them very cool, but would always think theres nowhere to drive them in Europe
Thank you for bringing this issue to everyone’s attention. I watch quite a few overlanders, and as someone watching content creators, I don’t want to watch someone who is disregarding the rules of the area in which they are traveling, or who are denigrating the same natural areas they are videoing. If you “love nature” you obviously leave it as you found it.
Very true 🫶 it’s easy to consume content without being aware of issues like this
What’s the point of anyone having a unimog if you can’t use it? Come to America or Mexico we let you go anywhere
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Tusen takk for at du tok tid og energi til å legge frem en saklig advarsel/klage, og for å samtidig dokumentere dette på denne måten. Det er alt for mange turister med kjemperigger, 'utømmelig bankkonto', og en dårlig holdning til Norske naturlover, som gjort eksempel av her.
Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to forward a proper complaint/warning, and at the same time document it in this way. There's just way too many tourists with giant rigs/trucks, 'bottomless bank accounts', and a bad attitude towards Norwegian nature laws, as made example of here. They want to have their fun and experiences, paying no heed to countrywide laws.
🤝 takk for det
Amazing video Kasper and I am glad you made it. I've been looking into this and its actually a global issue which is getting worse - UK, Europe, Australia, Africa, USA, Canada and even Middle East. 'Overlanding' has become an industry/business in itself which now somehow has crossed over into the vanlife, campervan, motorhome and caravaning scene. Suddenly, its not just a small 1%, its a much bigger number when you take into consideration how many people are out there fuelled by Instagram, RUclips, Apps and Websites. When you have something this big, it needs policing and it needs education. Pointing the finger to the "1%" is not the answer, more needs to be done across this whole industry to bring awareness, education and self-policing on these matters. Yes, its not ideal and it should have never gotten to this point, but lets face it, it already has. I fear we are getting closer to the point of no return where authorities/land owners will eventually drastically intervene and outright ban camping, hiking, freedom to roam, including banning all types of vehicles completely in places - believe me when I say they can do this very easily - already happened in a few places. Conservationists and Land Owners need to get together to work with the Overlanding/Camping community/industry to bring a mutual resolve this issue through awareness, education and self policing - before it turns into a path of vandalism, theft, robbery and violence. Keep up the good work Kasper, love your vids!
Yeah it’s becoming a “normal” activity which is ok. Can’t really gatekeep it. But there’s people with no knowledge ruining it because they see videos like this and assume that’s what all of us do.
Gotta protect the few legal options we have left 🤝
First off. Great tone and respectful delivery of you Kasper. No wise-ass vibes. This is how we should communicate online! Then. I completely agree with you. I'd like to add that I feel like presence online is a major part of this issue. It's ten fold worse (or number-of-views-X-worse) to post about greyzone or illegal stuff you do online, with photos, videos, posting a new GPS spot (which makes people think it's ok.. for instance on park4night) or new trail.
Keep up the good work.
Yeah. I’m not saying it’s ok if you don’t post it. But that would be sooo much less of a problem. This getting showed to millions which all uses the same park4night app to get there. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen
1) Create large enough fines that works as a deterrent
2) If fine is not immediately paid on the spot, confiscate the car to work as a deterrent for other would-be-law-breakers
We as western society have become way too forgiving and Ned Flanders like when it comes to people breaking the law.
It should be simple, really. If driving off-road isn't allowed, it follows that if you're caught off-road, you would be forbidden from driving back (because that would involve more off-road driving), and would have to abandon the vehicle there, or pay for a helicopter to air-lift it back on the road. :D.
The fines for driving off-road here in Norway is quite high actually. It depends on the "damage" you've done, but the base fine is 1600 Euros. It may add up if you've driven far into the terrain.
You say that like a forgien tourist will pay the fine and not be long out of the country by the time the police get around to actually issuing it
@@cammza9989 which is why it should be issued on the spot and they can't have their vehicle back unless they pay it, they can walk away, but they lose their car.
@@Murtagh653 Sounds like a great way to massively increase corruption in the police as they take bribes in the form of "fines"
Do you intend to have every square km of Norway constantly monitored by police to issue such fines? The entire idea is ludicrous, the actual solution is to stop them entering the country with a silly luxury apartment built on the back of a lorry
I am glad there are people like you in this world. Thank you!
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I did a roadtrip through Norway with my buddy this summer and while we were parked, there was an accident on the road near us. Suddenly the whole parking lot was swarming with people and seemingly everyone was speaking german. I'm Swiss and it was strangely familiar but mainly surreal. We saw a lot of German cars more than any other foreign cars. We were in a rental car ourselves.
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@@Selendeki There is no problem. What’s the point though?
@@Selendeki I didn’t shit on anybody. I didn’t understand the point.
Yes, there’re lots of German tourists but this is not the topic of the video.
It’s about some idiots visiting Norway with huge off-road vehicles and not respecting local laws.
That’s a very niche thing that doesn’t even apply to 1% of German tourists.
Subscribed after seeing you delete one of your relatively popular videos to set an example and push your case. We need more people like you in the world. Much love from a fellow Norwegian.
The same issue is occurring here in Canada. I live in Nova Scotia, Canada, where many European Overlanders have their overlanding rigs shipped to Halifax, N.S., before embarking on their overlanding trips of the Americas. Many of the wild camping spots here in Nova Scotia, that we have been using for many years, are now closed on Ioverlander because of the litter that is being left behind by overlanders. One of the biggest issue I have encountered at my favorite wild camping spots here in Nova Scotia, is other campers defecating in the woods nearby where they are camping. It has reached a point were you can no longer walk in the forest near these wild camping spots because of the large amount of human feces left behind. I carry a porta-potty in my overlanding rig, but many of the European Overlanders that I have met, don't carry a porta-potty and use the forest as their bathroom. This practice is no longer sustainable with the large population of overlanders now traveling throughout the world. Yes, bears shit in the woods, but we are not bears.
Wild that the same rigs manages to screw over people across the globe!!
Ugh. They can't even bring a shovel to bury it? This sounds like an invitation to spread cholera. I suppose they'll eventually make it out to Alberta and BC as well.
@@billmcc64 I believe they have. There is a RUclipsr, Foresty Forest, who regularly posts videos of the aftermath mess made at wild camping locations throughout Alberta and BC, created by other overlanders. Foresty forest often posts videos of himself cleaning up the mess made by others. As he often states, "I can't believe we are sharing the planet with these Ding Dongs".
You'd think for as large of a truck as those idiots are using, they'd have room for a damn shovel or better yet a few wag bags.
I would not have expected human feces to be a problem in such an area. Toilet paper I would expect to be a problem, but not the feces itself.
Hi, this is a problem that he also faced in Portugal not only with off road driving, but olso with camp spots, the result its having a lot off this places ruined, and having more restrict rules.
Norway is one off the destination that i really want to travel.
A shame! The coast of Portugal looks amazing.
Please send all this information to the police and respective organizations! There should be less tolerance for this kind of thing and it must be combatted with effective information and retaliation. It's absolutely ridiculous people get away with this kind of disrespect, only to do it over and over again without ever facing the consequences! They can create much much good content while also respecting the countries they travel.
Really great video 🙏🏼 thanks for doing your part in protecting the nature by spending your time educating the public
Thanks 🙏
Unfortunately, this is not only a problem in Scandinavia but throughout Europe. And it's not only those with off-road vehicles but much more even those with 08/15 motorhomes. Especially intensified since the Covid hysteria, thanks to stupid politicians. And the consequences are annoying. Even more serious now in the Alps and even in the Balkans. With Park4Night, every stupid person can now find remote places that previously would not even have found their way out of their own city.
Sad to see this happening all over. The park4night app is like you say just pooling people into these secret spots that they would never look for if it wasn’t for the app.
This is unfortunately a trend that will continue to increase. More people, less wild spaces, and more social media. Until laws are enforced more strictly or education about proper behavior are taught and assimilated this trend will continue to rise more places will face disturbances that nature can't balance.
Again, in Australia, our young people are glued to their phones and have to get their 15 seconds of internet attention by publishing themselves at their "secret" camp sites, natural features, fishing spots etc, etc. Guessing this app is run by the users uploading their favourite spots to it? Sounds completely self-inflicted problem to me ! If people didn't want to be heroes on the internet for 15 seconds, there would be no problem. Its a cultural problem - @@kasperhoglund
@@kasperhoglund lol you are actually mad that people are enjoying traveling and great locations just because it inconvince to you
@@DuBstep115 No. I (and local land owners) are concerned about the growing trend with trashing these places that are free to use for everyone👍 if that’s what you got out of this video, I can’t help you mate
hi, another German here, but I cannot afford a 500000EUR offroad RV and even if I could, I would be too embarressed showing off like that. I donno how much the fine would be for those guys, I guess they wouldnt bother... Unless the fine is linked to the estimated value of the car that was driven thru the river
Haha it should be a percentage of the money spent on the car yeah 😂🤝
We have the same sort of situation over here in Canada.
Thing is, people spend big money on huge rigs that are very capable only to find that capability is only really required in 0.01% of their travels.
Now they feel the need to "create" situations where they "need" that capability just to justify the money spent to build and operate their rig.
Yeah very accurate. No real life situation in Northern European regions where this is necessary 🤝
This is the main reason,they spend 200k euros and now they try to justify it by creating hard situations
Try and find someone who drives a "compensator" who isn't out to wreck everything for everyone else.
Great video. Thanks for being out front of this issue. These folks have too much money and expect or demand availability to the land, private or not.
You did the right thing and you did it the right way: with respect. I'm hoping your efforts are making a difference!
I hope so. Thanks 🤝
Great video. The problem with people buying offroad rigs for overlanding is that they're then desperate to take them offroad, even if there's no need to. I hope to bring my Jimny to Norway soon and explore your country while sticking to the legal paths.
You’re more than welcome man! And jimmys are damn cool 😎🤝
LOL why buy an off-road vehicle then if you're just staying on the road? 🤣
I was like "wait you are allowed to just drive throw there" and "oh that was probably the point"
I really hope these people get serios consequences. It is unbelievable how disrepectfull people can be.
Yeah, and that’s exactly the point Hah! People see stuff like this online for a few seconds and make an assumption either that it’s OK to drive there or really bad.
And the group thinking it’s ok, we don’t really want over here without them reading up first 🤝
We need more people in the world like you.
Very true.
Ahh thank you 🤝🤝
I never got the clue, why overland vehicles become bigger and bigger. Ever since I bought my first Land-Rover back in 1973, I've never travelled in bigger off-roaders than a 110". No roof racks or roof tents. Keep the LR as low and light as possible. Most of today's overlanders are overloaders too. Worst I've seen was a 61-year-old lady in a 8x8 camper truck! Get back to reality, guys! KIS! BTW: nice Discovery you have, Kasper!
Yeah no need for more than a 110 here! Actually bought a 109 that I will replace the discovery with to travel in full time! Old, slow, loud but really cool 😎🤝
@@kasperhoglund Well, the 109" HT is cool and good-looking. I had several of them, but I never regret the change to a 1985 OneTen HT back in 2003. Now with a 200 Tdi it can flow with the traffic. The ride comfort (safety) is better, and it need not a whole air field to turn around. The big plus the HT has over the STW, is the possibility to add two or three storages boxes into the body side. Gives a lot of space inside for work, sleeping etc. With a fox awning, you can use the outdoor area. And without a roof tent, the LR is just 210 cm high. Good luck and have fun!
Austrian here, thanks Kasper for your Video!
My girlfriend and I visitet Norway and Sweden this year with our VW t5 California! We need to say that your nature is one of the most amacings I have ever seen! Such an beautiful landscape which needs to be protected!
Hey, you are absolutely right about that ego-driven Adventure-Hype with Offroad Cars. If i am not allowed to i will simply not do it, and i am not feeling bad about it. Lets leave the car on the lane and take the real adventures without them, they shouldn´t be the center of attention at all times. Always respect nature first.
Amen to that
Climbing hasn’t been able to keep up with the growth and we have struggled to police ourselves this way, especially in the last three years. It’s really gotten out of hand. I commend your effort.
Self policing kinda needs to be done within niches 🤝
@@kasperhoglund It protects the environment, it also goes a long way to protecting access for recreation.
There’s quite a few places where I’ve climbed in the US where people were left to manage themselves and now it is regulated due to growth and misuse. It’s harder for the climbing community and burdensome on local governments who now have to deal with it, or we just lose access.
It's so common nowadays to see people go to a country, say they enjoy it but leave it absolutely trashed. Sad to see that is what happens now as there are genuine people out there who have respect for what they are visiting
Perfect video! I'm a Swedish Jeep Wrangler owner and kayaker. I'm often in northern Norway and Sweden (and all over Europe). In just a few years a lot of side roades are closed where you used to be able to go into for night camping. And that was not offroading, just staying on a parking or camping spot.
Now, many, many are closed and the few still open are full of German overlanders, campervans or mobile homes. Sometimes they are staying for days so the local people can't park there for a day hike because it's no more space.
I've also seen German canoers making a base camp on some island for a week. Smaller groups are allowed to stay one or two nights but not occupying the land! And as you say this bad behaviour is spreading to Danes, Swedes and many other nationalities. WE all have to act responsible and follow the rules.
Very true! One bad acting guy makes everyone else trying to stay afloat to get a camp spot. And suddenly the issue is unstoppable 🤝
👊 respect to you for calling it out in such an educational and informative manner. It is a massive problem as you say, some times it is through not knowing, but sadly I believe this is a minority, after all, as you mentioned there is a lot of signage. Same goes here in NZ
Sad to see down in such a beautiful land as NZ! Cheers
I dunno what exactly it is about German tourists, but i see a lot of them generaly behaving like complete jabronis here in Greece as well. They come here, get drunk, shout/laugh loudly during inappropriate times of the day/night, litter around and generally show zero respect or courtesy to anybody.
And then they turn around and act all high and mighty, and like they are so civilized and us the greeks should be honored they even bothered to come spend their money here, and like we owe them something. I can't help but wonder if they would ever act like that inside the borders of their own country, i don't think the authorities there would turn a blind eye to this kind of debauchery.
Where ever you are on holiday,always remember that you're a guest visiting. Be humble,polite follow the rules and respect the people...
Even if you don't agree with some of the rules or way of thinking. If you can't behave like this,please stay home.
You've dealt with this very maturely and how they responded to your DMs and emails was very telling. They do it all for their own views and benefits
I can't belive that any of that even needs to be said. It's like those warning labels on toxic chemicals. Don't drink motor oil!
Another German here. I love & respect your country and I’m very sorry and ashamed for my fellow Germans. Unfortunately only a few are enough to ruin the reputation of a population. Believe me the most of us are respectful ❤. Beste Grüße nach Norwegen.
Yes sorry that a few ruins it for a lot others! Some of the best and most respectful travelers I know are German themselves 🙏
Doesn't matter where you're from, there is always people who just don't think about the consequences. The only thing this time is that they were from Germany. I don't think we are any better than anyone else tbh 😅 I've been to Germany through a school trip in 2012, working at vattenfall for two weeks and going on trips to see a hockey game (sickest thing ever!), a few bars, testing out the night life there and going for a tour at the VW factory in Dresden (absolutely beautiful factory). All the people there was very nice and welcoming and made it a trip I will never forget ❤
Dritbra Kasper.. dette er ett kjempeproblem her i Australia og... det er altid noen som gjør det de ikke skal og verre enn det. Uansett, kudos for å bringe dette opp! Håper en dag å kunne reise hjemover overlanding fra Australia og ende opp hjemme på besøk! Uansett... ha en knall dag og weekend (what's left of it!). Keep on chugging on and kudos for great content!
As they say... "Tread lightly... take only memories... and leave only footprints". As responsible 4x4'ers and overlanders, care for the environment is pivotal for us to continue being able to enjoy the outdoors like this!
Takker! Lyst til å få reist i Australia med bil etterhvert selv!😎🤝
Får si ifra da @@kasperhoglund! Er i Victoria her.. med Nissan 4x4 Club of Victoria.. plenty å se og gjøre... gearer opp til en lengre Kimberley tur .. og en Great Australian Bight og.. fra Esperance tilbake til South Australia.. exciting. Men IF you do, si ifra.. ;-)
2 weeks ago I travelled Norway by car with my wife. During overnight stay on secluded parking by the beautiful river some German RV with seemingly nice family also came to have a dinner and spend night there. To our surprise, next morning right after we had breakfast outside, these people released grey and toilet water right on the ground, producing bad smell in the area and left. This action kind of spoiled our opinion about German people who we believed were the most disciplined people in EU. It was shame to witness such disrespect to nature, in foreign country, and especially in such beautiful and pristine country as Norway.
Stuff like that always goes unnoticed because they leave before they can be held responsible for it! Good thing people are dumb enough to post illegal driving themselves on the internet now 🤝
I have lived in my RV all summer traveling around Norway and Sweden, and this is normal behavior from German campers..
Every Norwegian and Swedish camper I`ve talked to this summer is hating Germans more and more, because of them leaving every campsite like a trashdump, dumping black/gray water in the nature when they feel for it, being rude and acting like they own the country.
Why woulg they do that?
In every village i visited this summer i found fascilities to dump wastewater and clean toiletcassette for free.
I really cant tell you why, but I don`t think they care about it since it isn`t their "home".
Have seen they dump graywater 50m from the dumpsite, because it was too long waiting for the RV in front to empty... (yes I got yelled at for telling him what a pig he was by dumping on the asphalt)
I was traveling around Europe/Norway in my camper this summer and can definitely feel that the vibe is changing. One gorgeous place actually got a "camping prohibited sign" as I was staying there. Always respect local signs/laws and leave the place in pristine condition! Norway is almost the perfect place for campers, please keep it that way.
It’s been good for so long.. that people are starting to push the boundaries. And it’s causing issues for locals. One single beer can going into the field before collecting the grass to feed cows can lead into a bunch of hay thrown away or animals getting injured. So farmers and locals are putting up these signs in desorption to have space to do their job
Actually saw the truck from the first video during my motorcycle trip to Norway last year. Thanks for bringing up the topic. ❤
Well said, not enough people have the respect that was once automatic.👍
It’s wild to see!
@kasperhoglund I can only imagine. I would love to visit and tour around your beautiful country. Perhaps one day, I will get the opportunity. Keep up the great work, and keep educating so maybe there will be something left for others to enjoy.👍
As a german living on the canary islands I can say that many germans are doing the same here. I love to call them out for it as I mostly get an arrogant reaction out of them. And then the fun begins. I am not as diplomatic as you. great video. I like the edit.
Honestly not easy being diplomatic against plain denial and unnecessary arguments 🫣