Sheed DOES NOT Like The NBA's Current Product
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2023
- Rasheed Wallace says the NBA is not as tough of a league as it used to be and blames the current style of play for not being as entertaining. Tyler says the style might be different, but that the league has never been more skilled and points to big men like Joel Embiid, Giannis and Nikola Jokic as examples of guys who can do it all.
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These dudes carry, travel, and they took away defense.
Giannis be traveling to Greece every game😂
AI, Ewing, and Magic?
I don't know if it's because I've become older than everyone at this point (except for Chris Paul & LeBron) but it just doesn't feel the same when you don't idolize anybody anymore. None of these guys today are people that I look up to or consider heroes. Hell I don't even really consider most of them dependable. Maybe Steph Curry is the one guy who I'd "put my money on" but I haven't gone to a game in years because I don't really consider the product worth paying for. It used to be my Christmas tradition to watch the games all day, but now I don't even bother subscribing to a TV package. Today is a nice warm day and I'll probably just go play basketball myself today. The last few years I've been far more interested in just playing in the mens league in my town than I am watching professional basketball. I miss when the league was a 80-90 point game.
Ala ja morant the carrying machine
It’s still blocks and steals, so I’m guessing it’s still defense. You just want to see fighting.
I’m glad I witnessed the the 90’s and early 2000’s. I got spoiled from the Jordan to Kobe era’s thinking that’s how the NBA would continue 😂😂😂
Weak ass era
Then Bron made it AAU basketball....where everybody are all friends
Facts
I knew the NBA I loved was over when Kobe retired.
me too, 80's, 90's, early 2000's eras was some of the best basketball ever.
If Hakeem Olajuwon was told to shoot 3s he would've been the best 3 point shooting big man ever. Those guys were given different assignments back then. Now big guys shoot 3s and don't do their rebounding assignments which allows some point guards to get 10 rebounds.
Exactly players were given certain greenlights and held back on some unlike today where teams encourage as much versatility from as many players as possible.
@@mxhughes exactly.
Facts. Guys like Olajuwon, The Admiral, Ewing, Mourning, and others, they could shoot the 3 ball, just that it wasn't their game. Players like Peja, Sam Perkins, Dale Ellis, Reggie, Van Exel, they would feast in today's NBA with the green light to Jack up as many 3s as they want.
Facts
Magic Johnson was gettinfg 10 rebounds... Fat Lever was getting 10 rebounds, Oscar Robertson was getting 10 rebounds on a regular...
It's funny that "more skilked" equals shooting 3s. That's why Sheed asked the question. Shooting from deep is only one skill. Defense is a skill, rebounding is a skill, players have always had handles. The difference is that it wasn't until now that it was cool to dribble out the shot clock. 😊
But defense and athleticism isn’t a skill that the Euro players had so they had to soften up the game so these players could catch up
@MrAaronchicago That's not why it happened. The people in power think that fans want points and the more points the better the ratings. We see it across all sports in all countries.
@@endzhere1638 that’s true but the NBA is an international sport and they wanted to bridge the gap
@@MrAaronchicago That was just a bi-product.
Why does EVERY og critique 3 point shooting,like it's the easiest shot on the floor. Ima young OG myself but shaq in the paint 40 times in a game is way easier to do,than players of all sizes shooting 30 foot shots. Logic is ok to use when criticizing something you DON'T like. Players are easily more skillful now compared to the 90s & early early 00s,but not necessarily better SPECIALISTS & i would definitely love to see more physical defense allowed by the rules. Folks keep calling this era SOFT,but players aren't making the rules,the league is
Players are not more skilled, the NBA just made it easier to score and letting the players get away with carrying and traveling. That's is not more skilled
BINGO- perfectly said
Exactly
Players are more skilled, the NBA has made it easier to score, and NBA teams are using actions/spacing that are much more difficult to stop. All these things can be true at the same time. Certain player archetypes like non-switchable 4s (think Zach Randolph) are phased out the league due to spacing. And it's almost impossible to defend spread PNR combined with exit screens by extremely skilled players. It would be difficult for an NBA player to defend a college player receiving a pin down screen then dribble hand off, let alone an NBA player.
@@ThreadAndCircuses1 there's a factor that you didn't account for. Nowadays we see carrying and travels all game, all the games. Players like AI "the answer" would absolutely LOVE to play in this era. That plus the fact that when you enter the paint you don't have the center and the PF welcoming you with body slams, makes a shit ton of difference. And it's a damn shame that what we see all over is any and all players shooting 3's. It's a very different game in that last 12 years.
Maybe if we come back to some of the previous rules, promoting defense, it would make it more interesting. Right now, it's boring.
I counted traveling in the NBA making it easier to score. I would like the 3pt line moved way back to 26+ feet. I only want to see players who grew up as scorers/shooters attempting 3s. There are a lot of good basketball players phased out the NBA solely because of their inability to shoot from 3. Plus it would make the game interesting seeing how teams would adjust. @@jorgenorberto293
Ain’t no cappin with Sheed always facts.
1. You can’t play defense in the NBA. The European game has become more physical then the NBA. Euro ball is more physical because the referees allow physical defense in Europe.
2. The NBA referees think they are famous. This group has a history of corruption and they influence games in favor of certain players. Like Scott Foster vs Chris Paul.
3. The Euro step made traveling common. It was once a one step allowance, then one step and a gather now it seems like two steps and a gather (3 total steps) is never called travel.
I agree with all this and I will also add the poor presentation and aesthetic of the games, there are too many jerseys and ugly courts
David Stern turned the league into what it is today due to the Malace at the Palace. They have completely taken the physicality of the game out of the regular season and reserved it for the playoffs which makes sense to keep stars healthy and reduce chances of a fight breaking out. If you dont like it dont watch till the playoffs start.
Not only the Euro step leading to extra steps being okay, but also, players shuffle feet and palm the ball on crossovers more than ever.
Whenever kids say the NBA is way more athletic, I always say that it's easy to show athleticism when the game is a track meet, and you can run more freely.
How would Tim Hardaway's handle look today? Isiah Thomas? How much more athletic and dominant would prime Shawn Kemp be if he could take 4 steps without dribbling?
Man oh man, if only I had a time machine. We'd all have fun seeing that.
@@danielschomburg2140 Malice at the palace is a huge part of it.
To me , the style of play is much more damaging to to the current game than the officiating. Officiating has always been bad and i still watched and enjoyed nba ball. I watched clippers vs celtics the other day and it felt like there were 10 straight possessions where one guy dribbled the ball up and jacked up a 3 without passing to anyone. Offenses have become predictable and boring
A lot of the dribbling is a lack of skill in the sense most of it is not necessarily to get where you’re trying to go. It’s more skillful to beat your opponent off the dribble in less dribbles
Exactly! Like we get it players take more 3s especially the big men in today’s game compared to back then but that’s about it for real. How can the league be more skilled when it’s really only a hand full of players that can actually score off of a few dribbles and create their own shot
I wouldn't call dribbling a lack of skill, but over dribbling could be a lack of offensive IQ in terms of finding the most efficient way to score on a possession.
perfect example is when mfs tell me Tatum>KD and im like how? it take Tatum 6-7 moves to possibly get a shot off. it take KD one cross to get that shot off lol two different levels
That’s right.,efficient movement
MJ
I’m a young dude and I be feeling like an old head because this era of a basketball be so hard to watch sometimes. Everybody shooting 3s,and teams don’t really have identity’s nomore.
In the 2010s u had Miami who was a defensive team who wanted to get in transition, u had lob city, the lakers played a little slower with 2 bigs and Kobe, Memphis grit & grind, spurs had like a robotic system very smart team, thunder were more iso iso. Now it’s just who can hit the most 3s smh.
Great points.
Imagine if you could’ve seen niggaz back in the 2000s….
I’m in the same boat 2020s NBA has proably been the most boring brand of basketball I’ve seen and I’ve been watching since 2008.
Yea its wack every team plays from 3pt line to 3pt line
Facts even in the 90’s the east and west coast played different styles so it was exciting to see what style would win
I am so dam glad that a former player actually telling the truth about this era
The 90s was the best combination of talent, toughness, athleticism and fundamentals that the NBA has ever had. The old school toughness of the 80s mixed with the athleticism of the 90s plus 98% of the league had at least two of years of college under their belt. The product has been downhill ever since.
You can thank corporate greed for the current standing of the NBA.
Bring back the 90s and 00s NBA dawg
80s too
i was born 79 and grew up loving basketball.. it used be so great.. it had already kinda gone way down hill already by the time kd joined the warriors, and i wasnt watching as much, but since then havent watched nba at all... when i do see games on and try watch few mins.. its literally 4 guys standing still while one guy iso and shoot three... also there is no rivalrys or passion anymore
Same here, born in 80, been watching ball since 1990. Even allstar games were more competitive back then. At least they tried harder on defense, and many players didn't even like playing with each other during the allstar game.
right there with you sir, remmber those pacers playoff games , knicks, bulls standing there yelling at the tv so much passion. Lebron killed the NBA
How can the league TODAY be the MOST SKILLED EVER when they are constantly doing things that were/are violations of the game??? (Traveling, Carrying, Double Dribbling, and Offensive push off) - The Hesi is a double, can't pause the dribble.
Then throw in the fact most players can't play without the ball/off the ball (Also a skill) how is today the most skilled?
Throw in the defense CAN'T play defense. How Sway, is the Most Skilled Era?
This era can't even do their moves without violations and defenders not being able to defend. And what is worst kids are TRAINING how to travel, carry, double dribble and push off the defender. Violations are now standard. It is like linebacker always grabbing the facemask when making a tackle and then saying he the most skilled tackler ever...it is a violation/penalty
Facts if u tried a hesi in pickup in the 2000s u was gettin called everytime
This guy doing the interview is so new school doesn’t know basketball 🏀 😂
How is it the players fault that the refs don’t call the constant violations??🤔
They didn't travel and carry back in the 90s and early 2000s?? 😂😂😂
C'mon, y'all stop the 🧢
@na_k well it was actually called back then
Asking an NBA player which game he's talking about is pretty ridiculous. Did he think Sheed was talking about soccer?
That was a clear signal. Dude didn't want any part of any deep discussion.
- feminized culture
He is a typical fan that watched the game maybe just 10-15 years ago and believes everything you see now is the best product out there. Recency bias.
The NBA has eliminated Defense to the point it is used to manipulate games. The carrying by players like Luka is wild.
Luka carrying kills me ? Coming from a AI fan who had to suffer from the rule change. Just to watch luka give zero fucks about it
THEY TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE A EURO GAME. 3 POINT SHOOTING AND NO DEFENSE.
and traveling by Giannis
@@cortrellhonor8839OK but AI carrying was only during a crossover. Don't get me wrong still bad.
But these players like Luka, Bron, Giannis, ect... Are carrying the ball just dribbling it up the court past the half court line.
Let's not even get started on the traveling
You're right, the fact that they eliminated defense let's the refs decide which team is allowed to play "physical" and which team isn't allowed to.
Im with sheed. Players sitting out day of the game with no warning has really ruined the ticket buying experience. It’s like the league went all in on sportsbetting for revenue and fan service now. The in arena experience for fans isn’t important to them anymore.
The Spurs
The owners have a lot to say about that and that’s not what’s been talked about
I disagree, but I totally understand your perspective and why most fans feel that way. I just see it differently
You must’ve just woken up the league fixed the load management bs this past offseason and there isn’t any this year
I remember when AI said that was why he gave 110% every game and didn’t sit out games…cuz that night some kid might be there to see him for the first time and he felt like he owed the fans in a way for the privilege of being in the NBA and I always respected him for that
1:43 Wombawomba and Chet😂😂😂
Wombawomba is nuts 😂😂
Made that man sound like a Muppet. 😄
@@ThatBo03 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Wombayamba" - charles barkley
If this is the so-called more skilled era why is defense an afterthought? I’m 💯sure if the all/superstars of the 90s and early 2000s could play in an era where they are not being touched and there’s an easy path to score we wouldn’t be talking bout this. In an era so soft where the standard is being lowered to make the playoffs theres a play-in tournament, traveling is barely called anymore. And high percentage shots became a virus in favor or jacking up threes. This is better?Really? Ok kids Sorry you weren’t around To have seen real competitive basketball, cause this ain’t it. Also, if these athletes are bigger stronger faster why are they complaining about 82 games?
Defense started becoming an afterthought when hand checking was made illegal over twenty years ago. There are better long distance shooters in the league now then back in the 90s. There weren’t many 7 footers launching threes back in the 90s Sheed did it and so did Arvydas Sabonis. It is way more common to see stretch 4s or centers shooting three pointers nowadays.
It’s not a defensive league no more that’s why the 90s-00s was better
@NewKasuto True on hand checking. I'll also throw in the 3 second rule and the fact that they don't call travels and allow players to take extra steps and palm or carry the ball.
All of these have huge impacts. That said, the rule changes took awhile for the full impact to be felt.
We're overdue for some major rules adjustments, but Adam Silver has no spine and he also knows that these kids don't care about defense or rules.
They just want to see their guys shine and say their generation is the best ever.
Whenever people say this era is more skilled, the only thing they point out is that more bigs shoot 3's.
That's true, but they also don't protect the rim or rebound as much.
Also, some of those old dudes would stretch their range out a few more feet. Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Karl Malone and many more had that potential and could shoot well from 18 feet.
In this era, I'm sure they'd stretch that to 22 feet. Not all of those dudes would've been able, but a lot would've.
Just look at dudes like Blake Griffin, Al Horford, Demarcus Cousins, AD, etc in today's era.
None shot 3's early in their careers, then they just started making them.
@NewKasuto Jordan actually played in the easiest era. It wasn't easier to score inside but if you were quick, had some type of handle and could create your own shot, the only defense for that was illegal back then. Jordan got to work 1 on 1 as the best 1 on 1 player in league. If he made you bite on a fake, it was over. Compare how much open space Jordan had to operate in to the kind of defense the 2007 Spurs threw at LeBron in the finals. Jordan himself said he doesn't know how his career would've ended up if zones were legal throughout his career. Also Jordan being a part of an era that couldn't shoot made defenders back then look better than they would look today because you always knew no one could shoot like that and to play the drive and kick. Players now will pick you apart, fake the drive, step back 3, have you looking lost!
I dont like it at all, I watch highlights and podcast. There is no more defense and they took away the post, and dont get me started on the refs.
If you think there is no more defense, then yeah, you are not watching the games.
@@straightlead8 When a score is 150 to 140, no defense is being played, stop playing.
@@BABA-is8kv No that means that players are more skilled, and it is harder to stay in front of your man than in previous eras. Are you honestly going to say that no one plays defense on Luka? And yet he still manages to drop 40 a game. Same with Dame in Portland. Was no one playing defense on prime Steph Curry? Opposing teams were throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Steph, yet he was still hitting from everywhere.
@@straightlead8 lol Pacers are avg 130 ppg. Thts not skill thts zero defense being played. You dudes talk tht more skilled shit but only thing you can attribute tht to is higher frequency of 3s being shot
@@tdup191 Shooting and making numerous 3s off the dribble is a skill. Something they couldnt do in the 90s
Emibid calling out of work on Xmas is crazy 😂 BUT normal
Load management in the 90s & early 2000s was end of the season after you locked in your playoff spot last few games cut his minutes right before the playoffs start, not sitting out games at a time in the middle of the season, that's crazy
Some of todays clowns....i mean stars, sit games against tough opponents to rest. Then come back the next game againts a bottom 10 team to light up the scoreboard. Weak as hell.
@@je5406exactly and then people wanna brag about how they scored all these points on a 6-30 teams... Even worse I seen where Last year I think Warriors rested almost all their starters BOTH MEMPHIS road games
I don't like it either. I try to tune in to see a basketball game, and I wind up watching 3-point contest.
It's boring.
Said this just lastnight!
the key thing is the players today arent more "skilled" than past players its that the current players are given more freedom have bigger roles and are asked to do more by their coaches...players like David Robinson Kareem Abdul Jabaar or Wilt Chamberlain would def be able to play in todays game and be just as skilled or even more because they would be allowed to showcase everything they have in their bag!
You also can’t play players physically nowadays so they have more freedom of movement so to the naked eye, they’re more “skilled”
They are way more skilled. Not even close.
@@Jralford8 Players who have no defense going against them look more skilled. When players have all the space they want, they can perform better. But in reality, how many players face tight defense at the 3-point line? How many players come off screens and have minimal space? How often can players stand at the top of the key, break someone down, and then go to a wide-open lane for a layup or kick it out to a man with no one contesting him? Players only look more skilled because there's no one opposing them. Fundamentals are being overlooked and players who rely on shooting 3-pointers exclusively are becoming more common. These players need to improve their dribbling and learn how to drive towards the basket. Most of these players lack the necessary footwork to succeed in the paint.
The NBA lacks the skillful footwork of Hakeem and Kobe. Everybody's just shooting 3s.
Obviously you don’t watch Luka or Jokic as well as many others. Thanks for exposing yourself as just a dumb hater who doesn’t actually watch the game.
I love Rasheed (no homo) cause he speaks the truth. The game nowadays along with the players are soft. Back in the day, players used to go for 81 and now, they might give you 56 if that.
And they getting paid wayyy more money than the players from back in the day for less work 🤦♂️. It’s sad.
@eyeamfranchyze I wouldn't even say they safe per se, they just making so much guaranteed money it takes away from * some players...
I don’t see how you can watch Jokic, Embiid, or Luka play and come away with this conclusion
@@johnberry2678 Giannis as well
Im with Sheed. The game today I dont watch it. I had a love for BB but the way it played now the NBA could go broke I would not miss a damn thing.
go watch european basketball, it is not as athletic as the 90s nba, but the physicality is there. And no, they don't take more than 2 steps, if they do they get called. And yes, they play real defense. Also, almost 0 iso ball.
Agreed. You couldn't have ever told me there would be a day that I didn't watch NBA basketball. It's 100% trash.
He called buddy Wambawamba 😂😂😂
Im hollin😂😂😂
That opening second captures what I think about it exactly.
The NBA has intentionally softened up the NBA to allow the Euro players to be able to play successfully. The players were too strong and fast so they had to prevent D from being played
It's been a terrible transition
That isn’t true euro leagues are way more physical. Luka and Wemby both have said it. The NBA softened for scoring
NBA softened for Curry to shoot 3s…
The NBA has ALWAYS had European players. Has nothing to do with that. It’s VEGAS!!! Sports betting, LeBron and Adam Silver.
Nah the league was way to dark for awhile so they had to lighten it up for Europeans. Luka even says Euro league has harder D which is crazy to say but it's true and it shows in international play. @@taharqa332
I spend more time watching old games from the better eras than LIVE games in this era
Where can I watch them old games?
Sheed is the man, and I wish he really talked about the skill level
I got a contact high just watching this for 3 minutes 😂
Sheed the man who invented the 3 fingers to the dome after a trey ball. Melo stole it. Loved sheed on the Knicks. Always consistent and smart plus tough.
Sheed was on the Knicks? That's sad.
Womba Womba is hilarious 😂😂
As much as i still love the sport, most games just feel like a 3-point shootout. Games like detroit vs Indiana in sheed's day might not have been great for casuals, but you could appreciate the level of defense being played. Seeing teams make each other earn their buckets. That part i do miss
I’m wit Sheed. I hate when people like a Stephen A Smith, or Colin Cowherd call these present players, Bigger/Faster/Stronger. In what way? Only thing is bigger faster and stronger, is the Contracts that’s given out..
Agree. NBA sucks now. I don't even watch it that much. 90s and 00s were the best.
Comical how the league is supposed to be more skilled yet the ratings are in the 🚽. The All Star game is a disaster, the Slam Dunk Contest has been a joke, and now this gimmick of an in season tournament to stir up interest.
Adam Silver should be fired, along with 90% of ESPN/ABC personnel
The NBA was definitely better on NBC. Nothing like Sunday games or the playoffs on NBC.@@KaineTremaine
Cuz holding that laptop on drugs
What is he looking at
How many people are know to be a legit defensive player in the league now compared to the 80s or 90s
Turnovers were not as high and shooting percentage was way better
Embiid one of the players who could play back then and today
I'm with what sheed said
The "young mfs" who are now 20-35 they just obsessed pushing their narrative of generational "advancement"
He had no evidence to back it up, so vomited out "skilled" lmao 🤣
I never would've thought the 3 point contest would become the league
The amount of 3-pointers have been gradually increasing for the past 50 years, so there hasn't been many things easier to predict.
I never thought the league management would just stop moving the three-point line, and let the game become this contest.
Sheed would eat these young bigs alive today. Sheed was one of the most skilled front court players I ever seen. Laker fan know the headaches he caused us on the Blazers and Pistons! Nothing but respect to you big dawg
by 90s rules, yes. By todays rules, sheed would foul out in less than 1 quarter.
@@andreic8786 naw
I wonder how many Philly hats in total Sheed has had over the years
People act like there hasn’t always been talented players at the end of the day all u gotta do is put the ball in the hoop it doesn’t have to be that complicated.
But it is too complicated for you. All players today can do, it to put the ball into the hoop. They can play zero defense.
Bro ur writing skills make less sense than mine.
Sheed is keeping it 💯! Totally agree with him, especially regarding lack of toughness/post game, and the travelling BS that's so prevalent in the NBA.
Steve Kerr, Craig Hudges, Glenn Rice, Hornacek, etc would have been super stars in today era
Facts! Real ish💯
How are these players today more skilled when most players don’t defend, most don’t have post games or midrange games. Just because they shoot more threes they’re more skilled?
I’m old enough to remember when the league had the illegal defense rule. There was no zone defense in the NBA back then. I think the NBA should re-visit that rule.
And that would help the defenses how? Sounds like it would make the NBA even more unwatchable.
Sheed always been the chill dude until you fuck around with him. Then you find out about his game. Sheed went hard in the paint and he could step out to the three. lol Sheed was legit triple threat and extra shit.
The last three guys on the roster are definitely better than they were in the past, but I don't think the top level is any better
How you figure anybody was better now?
I'd also say there is a larger number of top guys. Probably 12-15 true superstars now, vs. 5 - 10 back then. Deeper pool of all-star caliber players too.
@@na_k you guys type anything.
This is why no one today is The Goat - travel allowed, carry allowed, no real defense. Clear bias to certain players.
anyone know any info about those jersey prints in the background?
The NBA Is Garbage!!!
Power Forwards And Centers
Are Shooting Guards Now🤦🏿♂️
Kobe Kickin That Casket In Hard!!!💯
No he’s not, you have to accept that players have to be more skilled, no one wants to see another Kendrick Perkins on the court, the only skill issue that is suffering is free throw shooting and effort to box out/ rebound
@@greyyb8860you say players have to be more skilled but they can’t box out rebound? 😂 just because 7 footers shoot perimeter shots does not mean it’s evolution.
@@greyyb8860
A Center Is A CENTER Not A Shooter!
Everyone Is A Shooter Now🤦🏿♂️
You'd Rather See A Center
Be A Shooting Guard 🤦🏿♂️
@@rhaksol9564 just because your position says center, you don’t have to play like an old school center, there are shooting guards who can’t shoot, you can play like an old school center, the only problem is your tempo is too slow for today’s nba
@@greyyb8860
Kobe Kickin That Casket In
She’d called him Wamba Wamba lol
I loved Sheed's game and honesty, but most of all I was happy that his truth and honesty after retiring showed how wrong, fake, and unfair the Media was with him and other players who they paint as either a saint, or a sinner like him.
As a basketball fan I don’t watch NBA anymore. World Cup exposed how bad the NBA game is. A Germany team led by Schroeder/Theiss won the championship. I’ll stick to NCAA basketball as it’s a better game to watch. Actual effort is now a skill today, not everyone has it. SMH
Don't know what happened to the NBA but it definitely feels like an inferior product from the 90s and 00s. It's happening to a lot of sports leagues though. It all feels very throwaway and flat out boring now. Nothing feels inspired. Movies too. The quality of entertainment is just not what it used to be. Maybe because of information overload.
Skills to a degree more handles more streetball moves but most of them i dont think they would survive in Wallace era or MJ or Kobe Era however tha dudes of this era is mad linky and no muscular build plus the rules have made the league soft with a foul for everything but the 80's & 90's era & early 2000 was the best
Yes💯💯 no muscular builds No bangin bodies down low. It's a shame imo that there's so many guys going off for 50 and 60. Even 70 sometimes that wouldn't in other eras imo. Those same guys are giving NOTHING on defense. They don't even have to try on that side of the floor fr. Harden comes to mind. There's way more energy on offense because there's no energy exerted on defense.
Players are in much better shape/better diets, take being in great shape far more seriously yr round. If you don't think Steph putting 50 on Gregg Anthony's head I don't know what to tell you. 😂 Now would he do all the taunting and celebrations, naw, but he still putting up 50 in the Garden.
@@na_k All the players are in far worse shape. Steph has wasted several seasons, getting injured. Embiid plays exactly 50 % of his games. Kawhi has been injured during the past five off-seasons.
In Gregg Anthony's era, Steph would be shooting half the threes, get abused on defense, and probably get injured early in the season. He would still be a good player, but not as great as today.
what song is the beat from at the end? i know its some west coast shit
Ppl don’t understand how much of an advantage it is to carry, switch a pivot, and take two extra steps.
This is not the most talented nba first of all. The game is weaker. It is a shooter league, barely any defense being played, and definitely less entertaining in my opinion.
Agree, I feel the same with the NFL too. Too much scoring less defense and barely hit players without being penalized
@@sportsgamer2342
It's gone from tackle the QB to tuck him in and give him milk and cookies
@@sportsgamer2342 nfl on defense are being handicapped because of the lawsuit back in 2010
@@dreamcage1801 likewise same with nba, rules are being handicapped for offense like the nfl is now
@@sportsgamer2342 why not do that to nhl and MLB and keep it there
Dude says they are more skilled from top to bottom but they all play the same game, how does that make sense? That is not more skilled.
Wallace is on point and he said something that's so real it's on the Coach. If the coach allows these guys to keep on shooting 3 and not have a post game it's the coaches fault crazy.
Thinking that eliminating positions and making all players copies of eachother will lead to more versatile product...
Im wit Sheed
The play-in is stupid because other than the 95 Rockets, the only teams to win the championship has ever been a top 4 seed (95 Rockets were #6). Only 4 teams from each conference (and in reality probably less than this) have a shot to win the chip. All the play-in did was add 4 more teams to the list of playoff teams who are wasting our time.
Their should be more emphasis on the post up game for big man.
I ain't a old head, I started watching the NBA in 2008, its not the same. The mid range had more value.
Teams had a different styles such as the triangle, grit and grid, 7 seconds, etc ...
When people talk about higher skill, they mean dribbling past people that aren’t allowed to hand check, and shooting open shots. But most of them can’t post up, can’t play with back to the basket, don’t know any tactic beyond pick and roll. And we don’t know if they’re better defenders because rules make defending almost illegal.
And then you have people like JJ and Klay who can’t even dribble in the era of no hand checking and were still considered successful and skilled…
Funny you should mention Klay. Because he's an example of playing great 1v1 defense in the modern era. And he has elite handles.
Otherwise would've been a good take.
NBA is a joke. And it’s not all the players fault a lot of rule changes/ all the reviews have killed the game. Plus the players have zero fundamentals anymore.
The elephant in the room is once Kobe retired the NBA started to deteriorate with Lebron as the face of the league but no one will admit it.
Magic vs Bird laid the foundation for basketball being on tv and players making more money as the games popularity grew.
MJ and Kobe made the game a global phenomenon opening up global markets for marketing players as stars overseas, sneaker culture, players getting more money and the global spread of the game, amongst other things.
Name me Lebron’s contribution in furthering the game other than piggybacking on what the aforementioned four have already done?
I can tell you how he’s diminished the game as the leader and superstar of the NBA.
1. Disparaging MJ and Kobe while pursuing his narcissistic push to be called the goat.
2. Flopping and whining about fouls- he’s 6’9” and 260 but spends more time on the floor than the ball boy wiping up sweat.
3. Team hopping- teaming with other superstar caliber players in his prime chasing rings. Other superstar players are his only true competitors so teaming up with them wreaks of “I can’t compete”.
4. Player stacking- same as above
5. Load management- feels no responsibility to the fans or the game and sets a bad example to other players.
6. Claiming that losing 6 Finals out of 10 is a metric for greatness more so than winning 6 Finals.
7. Dishonoring Laker Nation by hanging that in-season banner in defiance of Kobe and other Laker greats before him.
I could add more but you get the picture.
Magic, Bird, MJ and Kobe felt a responsibility to the fans and the legacy of the game. They epitomized winning, excellence, leadership and playing the game the “right way”.
Lebron’s legacy, on the other hand, is normalizing mediocrity, self aggrandizement, taking shortcuts and exemplifying poor leadership, all at the expense of the game.
Let's talk about it cuz u spot on I've been saying this LeBron has ruined the NBA but its a microcosm of society if u really look at it
You just a lebron hater. The game can't always be thr same just like how your grandparents didn't have iPhones. Don't blame bron for crossing over from that time into now.
Lebron was the face of the league long before kobe retired. Not sure if you forgot about the rape case but it made kobe a polarizing figure. Lebrons been marketed as the chosen one since 2006
@@jaridatkinson4907 I agree.
@@jhonagha6279 Did you read my comment. Every generation prior to Lebron took what was already in place before then and elevated it. What has Lebron done to elevate the game? Calling me a hater is a cop out because doesn’t rebut anything I posed as critique. If you’re gonna defend Lebron against my points feel free to do so because I’m curious.
I love my man ‘Sheed… he keeps it all the way real! 💯
I agree 2,000% with Rasheed! Name a player today more talented than Jordan? Or Kobe?
Lebron
When I see podcast like this, I see haters trying to down lebron for nothing.
@@jhonagha6279 I’ll say this most NBA players give Lebron his credit it be the Jordan dick Riders that won’t let this man have nothing 😂 you be like “Lebron is one of the most skilled passers the game has ever seen” then here go the MJ Dick riders “Well in 1988 Jordan Averaged 8 assists a game” 🤣
Lebron, Luka, Joker, Embid, Victor and Kobe never shot 50%.
@@hitek9too255maybe so but Kobe in his prime was hella fun to watch. All the clutch shots, doing the impossible, buzzer beaters, all with style and flair can never be replicated. Today's players are great on paper but kinda boring to watch. Ja and Kyrie as dope as they are aren't doing it.
Jordan, Kobe, Anthony Edwards
Come in Sheed!
Get real, Embiid shrinks in the POs....
I was at a recent professional basketball game, it reminded me of some guys on the playground, and not in a good way.
He’s right. Last night; end of 3rd Qtr. Lakers had 13 FT’s vs Raptors 11.4th Qtr alone - the lakers shot 23 FT’s to the Raptors 2!!! 36-13 in FTs for the game.
MJ GREATEST OF ALL TIME 🏀🏀🏀🏀😎💯
Lebum?
The product is horrible no post game defense ball handling ( it’s a three dribble league everyone’s soft outside of Draymond their are only 3 centers in the whole league
I grew up on 80s/90s/early 2000s ball, it's when I developed a love for it. But ain't no way in the world players then were more skilled than now. Football players like Mahorn, Xavier McDaniel had 1 or 2 things they did well. Guys today do 3/4+ things. Are there too many 3s for my taste, absolutely. I want more dunks and mid-range scoring, but overall the game is extremely more entertaining than then. Lot of y'all capping cause it's Sheed saying it.
Sheed the same person that said KD is the best player in the league. KD has played with multiple All-NBA caliber/HOF players the past 3 seasons and come up short. Also, what does KD do better than Jokic, who is far more SKILLED than him? Maybe just score? Add Bron, Giannis, and Steph to that list too.
The best player in the world gets embarrassed on a regular basis in the playoffs?? C'mon now.
True skill is doing your job efficiently. If you can score off 2 dribbles consistently, you are better than any ball handler.
If u a basketball fan u know the product is 💩 but if u a fanboy that just love men and not the sport u love this mess😂
Nba is trash
He was hilarious at 8:27 but also ON. POINT. Man I love this dude!
I WOULD LOVE for them to bring back HAND CHECKING. Then you'll really see how skilled this generation really is. Everybody look good when you have the freedom of playing offense against defenses that can't put their hands on you. Too many gray area fouls and floppers that makes watching games such a frustrating experience.
The NBA is easily the most entertaining and talented league in all of sports right now. Old heads love to just hate bc their time has been done for awhile now.
This facts
Ratings say otherwise
If it’s the most entertaining why do people watch football more? Just saying something doesn’t make it true.
Football is king in America..
I agree with the overall skill level being higher, but overall, basketball iq is lower ,the defense is handicapped , you get to carry/discontinue and travel all over the place. I don't want to see people getting clotheslined anymore, but they did make it easier for this Era to score. Offensive players can initiate contact and get bailed out. No sets either 5 out, high or Spain pick and roll and dude's chucking up three's that have no business shooting that many in my humble opinion
Everyone can shoot. Most can handle the rock. The talent level is off the meter. Sheed don't want to hear that, but he's just old school. Well, I was grown watching him play at Gratz. So I'm older. The talent is better now. But! The defense is WAY worse. But the league doesn't want defense.
"Wamba Wanna" 😂😂😂
Sheed is absolutely right.
F the play-in.
F load management.
F...somethin else he said. I forget.
(It's 9 minutes I ain't tryna go back & find it.) But he is absolutely right. 💯
the game is now all about, who’s more efficient, back then it was who was the better player..
The play in and in season tournaments are two gimmicks that are cute, but sum up this era.
Growing up my favorite part of sports in general was the willingness to win or die, it felt like athletes understood the opportunity they had playing sports for a living, and tried to give the fans a show. NFL still has that feel, but its slipping, MLB is just not fast enough, but the NBA has become such a pampered league it's embarrassing, and it starts at the top with lebron. Growing up athletes who didn't hustle were lambasted by sports media at every turn, if you didn't play defense you would be on the bench. Nowadays all you do is score 30 and the media bends over backwards to celebrate you, stack your team to win, but when you lose claim it's unfair you had to play a better team, and the flopping and entire teams whining for calls most plays, everyone jacking 3 pointers, and maybe 4 teams running real offensive and defensive sets. Its sad.
Or for example giannis, who wants to claim losing isn't a failure. Imagine if MJ, LeBron, or Kobe said that, but since giannis is likeable, everyone pretends it made sense. His 15 years in the NBA are a lot different than normal people's 60 years in a career
More athletic now, not more skilled, more people shoot 3 pointers now, but nobody has a post game or mid rang game so it makes the game one dimensional & nobody plays defense. overall 90s basketball was the best,
It’s not more athletic bro, people didn’t become Superman in the last 20 years. All the measurables like height, vertical and speed haven’t changed since the 90s.
@@MC-kj7dy fair point, I still think it's more athletic now but fair point
They made it illegal to block jump shots. I’m not that impressed by professional basketball players making uncontested threes, while the defender stands four feet away scared to leave his feet or go near them. Landing space ruined the game. Also the driving in the lane calls are absurd.
Not naming Miami as a team who always try to win is crazy to me
Or Golden State.
This game nowadays are about specialists. Shooters, shot blockers, etc. Thats y someone like Mason Plumlee is in the league. Also, if you can’t shoot the 3 they don’t want you in the league. That’s y guys who should definitely be in the league like Tyreke Evans, Gerald Green, Dwight Howard, and John Wall aren’t in the league. These dudes got a ton of game left, and aren’t on rosters. There are straight scrubs at the end of some of these benches. Those vets I listed could also help a lot of these young guys in the locker room.
The Lakers needed D. Howard that bubble season, especially vs Jocic
My guy said “wamba wamba”😂.
"Wamba Wamba" LOL
You can literally watch a game at times and no team will shoot a two or drive the ball for minutes .
These guys today would not have to go against Pat Riley’s New York Knicks team.
I played/won the most difficult 3on3 tourney for Sonics tickets just for Shawn Kemp to "hurt" his finger in the 1st quarter and sit out the rest of the home game.
Major disappointment.
1:42 Sound like Charlie Brown teacher