Silent Skull739 Arthur is more of a rifleman it’s said he’s the best in the gang with rifles which means he can take out farther targets meaning he can see farther so he useful when scoping out banks and stuff
c c it should be John Skywalker because if it is that means that you’d have Jack Skywalker and he would eventually battle and turn John Vader back to the lightside of the force
@@thepig5425 Arthur would be close to his 50's by 1911 (48 to be exact as he's 36 in 1899) while John would be 37 and nearing the end of his prime. Idk if Arthur would be able to keep up with John if Arthur had really decided to lay low with Mary or maybe even Sadie.
Why people that see other players think that we just went back for the money? When i chose to go back "for the money" I was thinking "maybe I can talk to Dutch and wake him up and change his mind" and also shot micah in the head :')
@@trevorphilips9065 John deserved a better woman than Abigail and Arthur deserved to get stuck with Mary, because both Morgan and Mary are pieces of garbage. They deserve each other
Everyone knows. They're talking about the NPCs too. Some NPCs are made stronger and some weaker in the game. That's whst everyone's talking about. If one NPC is weaker than the other one and wins, it's just lucky and nobody believes that because the NPCs don't differ in how smart they are (they have the same AI) so if a weaker NPC wins it's just... unbelievable
BarriCrusher It’s probably because you play as John later on so his health is increased because levels get harder. Or it might not actually be stronger because Arthur still wins
@@Blargy2inch Yeah, but the main player base, and also the title screen is the NCR Ranger, showing THAT is the main protagonist, the people playing the legion are ALL in a separate dimension, an alternative reality, or in fact, a nightmare. Same with Yes Man. So its yes. I'm talking about the NCR Ranger on his profile picture.
To me when it comes to be a physical soldier, arthur is better, but John beats Arthur in having a better life with having a wife, a son and a successful job.
@the diamond kid Oh that's what he was talking about, thanks @RafoGameplayz Not really, John lost his fight with the armies in the end. When Arthur fought both the pinkertons and the US army, neither of them were what killed him in the end.
I always felt john was the better fist fighter. Arthur has a build more like a grappler, you can punch him all you want but if he gets ahold of you you're screwed.
@Mitchell Hart John hadn't picked up a gun in years when bill shot him in the gut, in the beginning, he was rusty from being a farmer and family man for years and he gets a lot of practice as the game goes on and gets trained by Landon Ricketts himself and becomes a legend in his own right. they're both brothers lost to the times. and the greatest protagonists in gaming in my opinion.
@Mitchell Hart I love Arthur a bit more because he's so relatable to me I love his reflections on things how he knows what's coming and he just wants a good life for his family like john did.
@Mitchell Hart are you serious hahahs the 38 year old john in rdr 1 is a better shooter than arthur. And if arthur was the main charecter in rdr 1 he would be almost 50 years old old man lol he would get killed.
@Mitchell Hart it would defo not end in a few weeks as h would be in his late 40s . John however is in the prime of his life. He has more strength , better gunslinging skills and more skill overall than arthur in rdr 2
More like Arthur looks more stupid at everything he does. His own death was caused by him stupidly beating beating up a sick farmer and then gets coughed at in his face which could have easily been prevented if he wasn't such a dumbass
Peter Griffin I doubt John would do things smarter. - He, despite being a wanted man, buys a house near BLACKWATER (the city that’s known for the massacre caused by the gang) and takes a loan on his real name. - The same guy that goes alone to a fort filled with Bill’s henchmen and tried to draw on Bill despite being held on gunpoint and guess what, he got shot. -The same guy that, despite Arthur telling him not to look back, still goes after Micah, which causes the Pinkertons to pick up his trail.
Not really, since Arthur and John have similar animations their speed and accuracies stay the same. When compared with someone like Micah who shoots really fast you’ll see a difference.
@@TheSovietFuze Nah I'd say in their prime Arthur was the better shot. John was super close but Arthur is smarter in a gun fight as opposed to John due to his experience.
@@NotoriousCurtis john in his prime is when he was taught by Landon Rickets. I'd say that john is better than Arthur by a lot. Remember that these are NPC models, so they behave differently.
Eat Me I love them both, but John is such an idiot. Why the hell would he get a home in a location his gang was wanted dead If he went to Canada maybe with Charles him and he would have never been found by the Pinkertons and died, also in the first game just casually walking up to Bills gang was so dumb. He seriously thought he could take them on alone?
Fight Like A Cat or better yet, make it like San Andreas move sets. Like boxer, Kun Fo or MMA but expand it with different variations of those move sets.
It’s funny, in the start of the game Arthur says him and John go way back and they have a somewhat antagonising history but towards the end of the game they are almost best buds
Arthur isn’t together with mary arthur broken when young, his son Isaac and his wife (i dont remember his wife) died for 10 dollars arthur said that to eagle flies.
I have a couple pitches for Red Dead Redemption III 1. Following Sadie Adler after she leaves the gang 2. Story of Jack being forced into father’s footsteps 3. During the Civil War with its own original story
6:40 if Arthur was alive in the event of red dead redemption 1 I could see that happening Arthur knowing why he did it and maybe john take his hat to the Pinkerton or FBI or whatever they are in rd1 and lies saying this is all that left of him
Anybody who says Arthur would win has clearly never played RDR1 and or forgotten about it. Based off feats John most def wins. The man took on the Mexican and American Army several times by himself (at times) the dude is crazy. Javier saw him and ran, Bill did as well even though he had more men. John also outgunned Dutch when Dutch had a machine gun like cmon. You Arthur fan girls need to put y’all’s biases aside and think. Just because Arthur is a better character doesn’t mean he’s a better gunsliger.
John outlived Arthur and had more experience and learned from his mentors mistakes. plus he's fighting for his family. Not some bullshit Dutch told him to do
american venom It doesn’t matter when it was made Rockstar has always made OP characters not just in RDR. My point is John in his prime is stronger than Arthur in his prime. Idc when the games were made or the approach the devs made.
american venom Idc honestly I posted that comment 4 months ago now fuck off you even said in your argument John is more op because the devs wrote him like that
@@stingy8029 Morgan's son got killed anyway. He could have left the gang at anytime to raise his own family but he didn't. This proves how selfish and hypocritical Morgan really is
I can't believe John is more powerful than Morgan. I don't know why, in my pc game i spawn then always and even if i play with them comparing John is more powerful in body combat... Strange.
Arthur canonically is stronger than Marston said by many characters throughout the game, but John's Npc is stronger due to the fact that you need to keep him alive in missions before prologue
Everyone can knock him out. bitch or i should say troll. Arthur is better arthur is perfect but john is not thats why i like him but not more than arthur.
I wish that when the released the game, in the menu they would've given us a section where we could have had a match like this one between the main characters.
Well, technically only john is the Legend of the West considering arthur never goes to New Austin, and plus John has his own outfit named Legend of the West.
Seeing John marston run from Arthur morgan in a gun fight for the first time. But at the end there best friends more than that brothers for life outlaws for ever and yes I took that from Gta tlad it was Brothers for life Lost for ever but I change it to brothers for life outlaws for ever. 6:40 damn Arthur did you sneak up on John like you just gotta done playing Cod ghost lol
Why are you people always say use horses to swim i need swiming for taking puling out some animals to skin them but when swim with a horse one of the stars will be gone this is why arthurs better at hunting
I believe John would have gave him a good fight considering he got trained by the famous gunslinger Landon rickets but then again, Arthur has killed the fastest draw in the west in a quickdraw battle. And Arthur pretty much fought the entire army like John did. And in h2h, Arthur Vs Tommy, I won't say anymore
Voldemort all the gunslingers which Arthur/John killed were rusty, old and drunk so it isn't much. And also Arthur might've beat the shit out of tommy but John survived wolf attack, fatass grizzly bear almost eating him and single handedly stopped the apocalypse (not canon but counts) Also the army Arthur fought were way younger than the one John fought. In conclusion Arthur wins in a fist fight and John in a gun fight.
@@kidsfromyesterday6025 wat about Emmet Granger and flaco Hernandez, flaco was in his 30s and Emmet looked like he could still fight. Arthur killed flaco in quickdraw despite being the same age or more. Arthur drew his gun at the same time as Micah who one shotted 3 grays with his revolver. John couldn't defeat him. Granted he was inexperienced but only by 4 yrs
Voldemort Maybe You see, the gunslinger mission is a side mission so it could be done by any character also with John so it isn't much, yes, maybe flaco was the only good one emmet granger was rusty and quite old. I don't know what time you are talking about where Arthur drew his gun fast so I'd assume it was in the final mission but he did not shoot so maybe Micah would've won. And finally John literally took out Micah's entire gang alone so he might've been exhausted while fighting him but yeah Micah is better than rdr2 John but John rdr2 john is quicker and more accurate than Arthur tho rdr1 john would smoke Micah's ass. Also john survived a bullet to the chest and falling off the train then continued fighting along with Arthur. I also admit how Arthur destroyed Micah in a hand to hand combat while he was sick, which makes him the strongest in a fist fight. Like I said, rdr1 John is is better in gunfight and Arthur in a fist fight.
I can't be the only person who found it a bit jarring with the size difference between John and Arthur on their first play through. Like Arthur is a 6'1 wall of muscle, before tuberculosis, and then John is like a twig by comparison. However it never stops John from being a absolute beast on Mt Hagan.
This feels like when ur parents start fighting. It’s just wrong
It's like me and Michael and Franklin is the child.
Damn right T
Yes
Your parents is gays???
Haha you have two dad's
*John’s winning by 2*
cad5150: wanna see a prank.
*Puts John in water*
I see what you did there😂
@@deathrow2965 lol😂😂🤣🤣
John Marston: *Screams Internally*
🤣
Naw he can swim for a lil bit
2:14
*John sees bad honor Arthur*
John: nope
there is literally not much difference between bad and good honor arthur
@@rus778 in physical strength, you're right, but they are diferent
@@rus778 r/whoooooosh
D'vontay Porter that wasnt a woooosh you fucking dumbass
ACupOfWater r/woooosh
They are fighting over red dead redemption 3
Lol and who’s the better protagonist
@@immrcontagious9096 the one and only
ARTHUR MORGAN
max moore yea *BOAH*
Spoilers
R.I.P Arthur Morgan best protagonist ever
max moore “I WILL BE THE PROTAGONIST, BOAH”
The Main protagonist should be Gavin
Arthur was always destined to be the strongest, and john was always destined to be the fastest.
You realize this is just npc and not real. Arthur wins in a fist fight and John in a gun fight, like you said.
@@kidsfromyesterday6025 Yes, but these npcs are using their own animations corresponding to their character.
Silent Skull739 Arthur is more of a rifleman it’s said he’s the best in the gang with rifles which means he can take out farther targets meaning he can see farther so he useful when scoping out banks and stuff
@@silentskull739 arthur is still a legendary shooter but john is slightly better lol why does that annoy you so much
@@silentskull739 arthur is very good at guns and shooting but john is the best. Just because john is slightly better it doesnt mean arthur is bad lol
4:23
John: it’s over Arthur! I have the high ground!
Arthur: you underestimate my deadeye power
Arthur-Wan Kenobi vs John Skywalker
Ali Shaan John Skywalker actually sounds like a thing lol
I'd say more like John Kenobi Vs Arth Vader
c c it should be John Skywalker because if it is that means that you’d have Jack Skywalker and he would eventually battle and turn John Vader back to the lightside of the force
c c Kenobi should be Hosea
6:37 Arthur never wanted to Kill John.
@Jarbledumbles John too
@Jarbledumbles *cri*
Lol not joking that was kind of brutal how John looked dead on the ground
@@dariannnnnn what did you do to sals face?? 😂😂
@@arthurmorgan7464 He's a homie now
Another universe when arthur is the last gang member that John needed to hunt
Ps: where is John hairline
I think John wouldn’t be able to do it.
Fel T-W i think maybe, Just barley, John could win against Arthur, but it would like a super close, bloody, and fight to the death type of battle
@@thepig5425 Arthur would be close to his 50's by 1911 (48 to be exact as he's 36 in 1899) while John would be 37 and nearing the end of his prime. Idk if Arthur would be able to keep up with John if Arthur had really decided to lay low with Mary or maybe even Sadie.
NotoriousCurtis 2001 he would be 47 John would be about 42 so it would be fair
Arthur is a better shot but John is stronger
I think John couldn't he cried when Arthur said just go to your family
1:10 Arthur’s hat eagerly awaiting its master’s return
Oscar Hayden (Perdition Bound) that’s john’s hat
1:17 time you learned to swim John.
XD
Yeah, I just love how Arthur just punches John unconscious, its like a mother when the child doesnt want to do swimming lessons.
wait, thats a terrible comparison.
@@FunnyKnightGuy No thats pretty accurate
@@FeeIRG o h
9:32 hold on I need to sit down
I feel like whoever gets the first shot have a 90% chance of winning.
That’s how it usually goes in a gunfight 😂
This is true with 90% of everything.
Yup
@@woody45076:33 are you sure about that?
10:47 A Tear felt from my eye
How did it feel
Man that remembers me when Micah stabbed him with a knife
NERFfirefox12 I’m guessing you went for the money let me tell you something Greed Is Not A Virtue
Why people that see other players think that we just went back for the money? When i chose to go back "for the money" I was thinking "maybe I can talk to Dutch and wake him up and change his mind" and also shot micah in the head :')
I bet John and Arthur would do this back in the day over Women 😂.
John: Abigail is a better woman.
Arthur: No Sadie is you son of a bitch.
@@trevorphilips9065 John deserved a better woman than Abigail and Arthur deserved to get stuck with Mary, because both Morgan and Mary are pieces of garbage. They deserve each other
@@KennyMccormic100 Thanks for the advice Beter
@@KennyMccormic100 They are better than your Lois making out with her daughter's boyfriend disgusting
@@KennyMccormic100 you're wife is a bitch
Wait everyone saying "I can't belive John won" or "Arthur won" knows this is not a canon fight and is just 2 NPCs fighting eachother with there model
Everyone knows. They're talking about the NPCs too. Some NPCs are made stronger and some weaker in the game. That's whst everyone's talking about. If one NPC is weaker than the other one and wins, it's just lucky and nobody believes that because the NPCs don't differ in how smart they are (they have the same AI) so if a weaker NPC wins it's just... unbelievable
Are you talking about my comment?! I said the John's NPC is made stronger than Arthur... Which is Strange...
@@barricrusher9790 It's because John is the better character
BarriCrusher It’s probably because you play as John later on so his health is increased because levels get harder. Or it might not actually be stronger because Arthur still wins
@@zepps88 hahahahahahaha good one
9:15 when the police find me after years of searching after multiple accounts of tax fraud and obstruction of justice
Sounds a bit too detailed.
@@furymern8162 Your profile pic is a dead meme.
Funny -_-
RedRiley your profile picture is outdated by almost 2 decades and was only used by edgy teenagers
That was unnecessarily too detailed, you got something to say partner?
There both the best boah protagonist I've ever seen
another good protagonist is the one in your profile picture.
@@FunnyKnightGuy The NCR ranger?
@@rileymccreanor6492 Well, Fallout NV is a good game, and his profile picture is specifically the NCR Ranger soo.. What do you think?
@@FunnyKnightGuy well then the answer is no. You are forgetting that you are not called NCR Ranger therefore he can be considered an npc
@@Blargy2inch Yeah, but the main player base, and also the title screen is the NCR Ranger, showing THAT is the main protagonist, the people playing the legion are ALL in a separate dimension, an alternative reality, or in fact, a nightmare. Same with Yes Man. So its yes. I'm talking about the NCR Ranger on his profile picture.
It breaks my heart to see two brothers trying to kill each other
bruh😂
Ikr
12:06 I remember zombie marston with the missing eye
So Arthur made John loose an eye on udn
Edit: and yes ik what happens to John before you play as Jack
I'm the winner boah!
Yes u are
Yuh
No he put John in water it would of been a tie
I miss you brother
Arthur you made my fans betray me you sad sack of shit!
john is legend of the west arthur legend of the east
Arthur was also in the west in his prime lol
@@notjohncena6492 he wasnt the best in the west though thats all john
@@hawkmanwalter4250 no its arthur
@@hawkmanwalter4250 no arthur was better than john john took care of himself and 3 other but arthur took care of 22
@@vixenloops5380 did you hear what i said i said john was the best in the west arthur was the best in the east
How about Sean and Lenny drinking in Valentine Mission?
4:15 That’s the Arthur I know.
7:48 thats the john i know
I dont remember the part where arthur hacks john with a hatchet
ACupOfWater 8:28 thats the Arthur I know
@@kotoamatsukami2582 thats the john i know 10:47
@Dante Trajano 0:20 that's the John we know
To me when it comes to be a physical soldier, arthur is better, but John beats Arthur in having a better life with having a wife, a son and a successful job.
That cut too deep man that should be illegal
Well, John ended with multiple armies so... John's a better "physical soldier" than Arthur xD
@@rafogameplays3321 I don't understand, what are you talking about exactly.
@@KhepriProductions2022 hes talking about the ending of rdr1.
@the diamond kid Oh that's what he was talking about, thanks
@RafoGameplayz Not really, John lost his fight with the armies in the end. When Arthur fought both the pinkertons and the US army, neither of them were what killed him in the end.
We need mr black vs mr white
You mean those prisoners in Rhodes?
@@FrankTheRandomCommenter yes
@@dani.6513 that would be fun because they hate themselves
@@FrankTheRandomCommenter They really don't, lol
@@danwordgod2017 they are pretty much siblings lol
Arthur and John doing the cowboy dance😂 2:20
Npcs after killing their victim
AIGHT IMMA HEAD OUT
Arthur shoots Micah on cliff role reversal. Make it happen!!!
rockstar patched it in december and I cant do it anymore
Wait can you tell me more about this? Im really curious I searched it up and no results popped up, I really want to know about that
2:16
John: screw this
Arthur: You ain’t going nowhere son
When John sees a bad honor Arthur: (It was not my idea, I saw it in another comment)
1:00 most cursed thing I have ever seen
John can stand there its not cursed its normal
@@turklander58 you obviously never got ptsd from the first rdr boah
They fight in RDR 1 Map.Nice Detail
When John found out in Arthur’s journal saying
I should’ve married Abigail
I imagine this is his face: 😐😐
I always felt john was the better fist fighter. Arthur has a build more like a grappler, you can punch him all you want but if he gets ahold of you you're screwed.
@Mitchell Hart John hadn't picked up a gun in years when bill shot him in the gut, in the beginning, he was rusty from being a farmer and family man for years and he gets a lot of practice as the game goes on and gets trained by Landon Ricketts himself and becomes a legend in his own right. they're both brothers lost to the times. and the greatest protagonists in gaming in my opinion.
@Mitchell Hart I love Arthur a bit more because he's so relatable to me I love his reflections on things how he knows what's coming and he just wants a good life for his family like john did.
Mitchell Hart And Dutch, people underestimate him. We have to remember that Dutch taught Arthur everything he knew.
@Mitchell Hart are you serious hahahs the 38 year old john in rdr 1 is a better shooter than arthur. And if arthur was the main charecter in rdr 1 he would be almost 50 years old old man lol he would get killed.
@Mitchell Hart it would defo not end in a few weeks as h would be in his late 40s . John however is in the prime of his life. He has more strength , better gunslinging skills and more skill overall than arthur in rdr 2
1:16 That fight was unfair John can’t swim Lmao
PropellorPigeon He still had his foot on the ground
R\Woosh
\_NERD_ BROSKI_/ Thank you I didn’t want to be the one to say it lol
@@gildedknight2945 Hey sometimes you just got to YOLO it...*Immediately ages 15 years*
Dude got knocked out straight away, and this is just a npc model so he can swim
John Marston vs Arthur Morgan
Rip van Winkle vs Tacitus Killgore
Jim Milton vs Leviticus Cornwall
Arthur just looks better at everything he does 😍
Edit: even dying 😭
More like Arthur looks more stupid at everything he does. His own death was caused by him stupidly beating beating up a sick farmer and then gets coughed at in his face which could have easily been prevented if he wasn't such a dumbass
@@KennyMccormic100 Agreed
@@KennyMccormic100 How would you want him to know? In 1899 for fuck's sake
@@paulghencea9037 If John had to do Strauss's dirty work, he would have done it much smarter than dumbass Morgan
Peter Griffin I doubt John would do things smarter.
- He, despite being a wanted man, buys a house near BLACKWATER (the city that’s known for the massacre caused by the gang) and takes a loan on his real name.
- The same guy that goes alone to a fort filled with Bill’s henchmen and tried to draw on Bill despite being held on gunpoint and guess what, he got shot.
-The same guy that, despite Arthur telling him not to look back, still goes after Micah, which causes the Pinkertons to pick up his trail.
You guys realize the characters win randomly right? Theyre npcs, it doesn't matter if one is stronger, the chances that a character wins are random
Yes. Which means someone using mods to let you kill trevor isn't real ya nag
Not really, since Arthur and John have similar animations their speed and accuracies stay the same. When compared with someone like Micah who shoots really fast you’ll see a difference.
@@MrYogurtExists micah still is an npc in this video
American venom mission but its evening
I love that when John and Arthur is an NPC, they have different animations than other characters and NPCs
When Dutch says there’s only enough money for one of you to go to Tahiti
If it was actually Arthur Vs John and not npc models Arthur would win
thats playable john/jim milton :)
@@cad5150 what about arthur
John was the best with a gun, but in hand to hand combat, definitely Arthur.
@@TheSovietFuze Nah I'd say in their prime Arthur was the better shot. John was super close but Arthur is smarter in a gun fight as opposed to John due to his experience.
@@NotoriousCurtis john in his prime is when he was taught by Landon Rickets. I'd say that john is better than Arthur by a lot. Remember that these are NPC models, so they behave differently.
*kills Arthur*
John: “ Gotta blast!”
Don't worry I'll drag his ass on the rope.
Arthur Morgan [High Honor] that’s not very honorable of you
Petition to have a co op mode where U can as Arthur, John, Red Harlow and Adult Jack
Need signature
Bad idea
*Sad red Harlow noises*
They’re fighting over whose the better protagonist.
Well, that's why Arthur won
Eat Me I love them both, but John is such an idiot. Why the hell would he get a home in a location his gang was wanted dead If he went to Canada maybe with Charles him and he would have never been found by the Pinkertons and died, also in the first game just casually walking up to Bills gang was so dumb. He seriously thought he could take them on alone?
@Ninjas Edition Because he would've died if tb anyways, the gold is useless too him
@Ninjas Edition john gets it anyway
@Ninjas Edition Yes that's the point
1:02
Arthur and John: * fighting *
Hats: *F L Y*
i have a goddamm “PLAN”!
Arthur wasn't fighting John, he was fighting the imposter: Jim Milton!
John is inaccurately demonstrated In this one
So yeah it was Jim Milton
Gta 6 should have combat system like this + dodge and block ability when press space
huy bv1998 and maybe like GTA IV where you can take the npcs melee weapons away from them in combat.
Gta 6 needs martial art fighting style like Sleeping Dogs game!
Fight Like A Cat or better yet, make it like San Andreas move sets. Like boxer, Kun Fo or MMA but expand it with different variations of those move sets.
It’s funny, in the start of the game Arthur says him and John go way back and they have a somewhat antagonising history but towards the end of the game they are almost best buds
Arthur is the legend of the east, John is the legend of the west. And John looks bad with that haircut you gave him.
is default spawn haircut and adding some hair is time consuming
Arthur is the Legend of the West John is the Legend of the South
@@aviationlover3613 of course mr dEvElOpEr
@@aviationlover3613 i hope you were joking
How about
John marston and abigail roberts (marston) vs arthur morgan and mary linton
Ricky Dimaz yeah good one
👍🏻
Arthur isn’t together with mary arthur broken when young, his son Isaac and his wife (i dont remember his wife) died for 10 dollars arthur said that to eagle flies.
Why do you think John lost 1:25
Can't swim
Your father and your uncle fighting over their favorite football teams
5:38 Arthur be like Oh hell naw I’m out *BOAH*
I have a couple pitches for Red Dead Redemption III
1. Following Sadie Adler after she leaves the gang
2. Story of Jack being forced into father’s footsteps
3. During the Civil War with its own original story
4. When John leaves the gang for a year
"I've got a family arthur"
9:17 Turned him inside out. And that was an awesome camera movement.
6:40 if Arthur was alive in the event of red dead redemption 1 I could see that happening Arthur knowing why he did it and maybe john take his hat to the Pinkerton or FBI or whatever they are in rd1 and lies saying this is all that left of him
John would kill Arthur probably, he wouldn't want to, but he'd be forced to
Anybody who says Arthur would win has clearly never played RDR1 and or forgotten about it. Based off feats John most def wins. The man took on the Mexican and American Army several times by himself (at times) the dude is crazy. Javier saw him and ran, Bill did as well even though he had more men. John also outgunned Dutch when Dutch had a machine gun like cmon. You Arthur fan girls need to put y’all’s biases aside and think. Just because Arthur is a better character doesn’t mean he’s a better gunsliger.
John outlived Arthur and had more experience and learned from his mentors mistakes. plus he's fighting for his family. Not some bullshit Dutch told him to do
i have and i think arthur would have won
Joshua Neesham Way to base your answer on feats and examples
american venom It doesn’t matter when it was made Rockstar has always made OP characters not just in RDR. My point is John in his prime is stronger than Arthur in his prime. Idc when the games were made or the approach the devs made.
american venom Idc honestly I posted that comment 4 months ago now fuck off you even said in your argument John is more op because the devs wrote him like that
A lot of people say marston is a better shoot but i really dont see it in my eyes what arthur showes us hes just a killing machine
-Someone who hasn't played RDR1
@@rafogameplays3321 i did
Markus ipavec they both are a killing machine 🤦🏾♂️ have u ever played rdr or finish rdr2 as authur and played as john
Strength: Arthur
Brawling:Arthur
Speed:John
Health:Arthur
Stamina:John
Better Gunslinger:Arthur
*Arthur can swim*
Experience: Arthur
Drawing:Arthur
But if we compare Arthur with RDR1 John, then John wins almost everything (less strength)
RafoGameplays I guess you’re right
He still can’t swim lol
Arthur-Wan Kenobi vs John Skywalker
Good to have you back Cad ❤😊
Mida Goo :) thank you
This is what happens when John was not being the father he should be so arthur needed to knock some sense into him
@@KennyMccormic100 hes trying to make John not make the same mistake as him
@@tracyrae4854 He's still a hypocritical scumbag. At least John helped his family despite them being ungrateful cunts
@@KennyMccormic100 hes tried to satw away from him because his life would have gotten him killed
@@stingy8029 Morgan's son got killed anyway. He could have left the gang at anytime to raise his own family but he didn't. This proves how selfish and hypocritical Morgan really is
Peter Griffin he got killed by robbers which is basically chance it was safer without Arthur so not hypocritical actual thinking
This all started because john said he was in two games with a dlc and Arthur wasn't
Cad5150:hmmm how can I achieve comedy lets put john into water
Also cad5150:I have achieved comedy
Still bro love ur vids keep up the good work
thank you :)
When two brothers fight over who kills Micah
Why did I hear Franklin's voice saying this what you want?1:15
It sound like Franklin for some reason
Well that was basically an NPC fight,we all know that Arhur would win an actual fist fight.
And in a gunfight we all know John would have won
That was a really unfair fight...
John is the true legend
No it was fair
john had 14 arthur my boy have 15 WTF i think him two win
@@TheproGamer_Z these were two npcs . it's completely random
@@mogul188 you think I don't know How old are you ahhhh why the stupids only comment go eat something
Johns been stealing since he was like 11
Arthurs been stealing since he was like 15
Winner:John marston
This fight isn't fair half the time.
The NPC sometimes glitches out and start running away instead of fighting giving the opponent a free win
I guess this is in Arthur’s imagination
Because John left the group for one year
What I’ve learned from this video:
Arthur punches harder
John punches faster
I can't believe John is more powerful than Morgan. I don't know why, in my pc game i spawn then always and even if i play with them comparing John is more powerful in body combat... Strange.
They are just NPCs lol, not a canon fight
@@professionalgamer6522 No, John is a bit overpowered...
John dosen't control his anger well, could've been intentional that he's better in hand to hand fighting
@@herb1947 Could be.
Arthur canonically is stronger than Marston said by many characters throughout the game, but John's Npc is stronger due to the fact that you need to keep him alive in missions before prologue
Also are we gonna forget that if Arthur antagonizes the camp members, john usually knocks him tf out
Everyone can knock him out. bitch or i should say troll. Arthur is better arthur is perfect but john is not thats why i like him but not more than arthur.
Arthur - fearless
John - best gunslinger and knows how to knockdown
Arthur is better gunslinger
its been confirmed arthur is a better gunslinger
Micah - legendery gunslinger of rat
@@stingy8029 In RDR2, in RDR1 John killed entire armies and was trained by Landon Ricketts (the best gunslinger in the Red Dead saga)
RafoGameplays but it’s been a confirmed. By rockstar?
Arther"show me what you got boah". John"bring it old man"!
0:37 This one is not the real Arthur Morgan.
6:27 This one is the REAL Arthur Morgan.
I wish that when the released the game, in the menu they would've given us a section where we could have had a match like this one between the main characters.
They'd have to make 2 storylines
Like-Van der linde
Dislike-O’driscoll
2:05 that noise!!! That must’ve hurt
I like them both i say they,re both win they’re like brothers both legend of the west
Well, technically only john is the Legend of the West considering arthur never goes to New Austin, and plus John has his own outfit named Legend of the West.
Btw
John Martson Is 5'10 Feet
Arthur Morgan Is 6'1 Feet
Seeing John marston run from Arthur morgan in a gun fight for the first time.
But at the end there best friends more than that brothers for life outlaws for ever and yes I took that from Gta tlad it was Brothers for life Lost for ever but I change it to brothers for life outlaws for ever.
6:40 damn Arthur did you sneak up on John like you just gotta done playing Cod ghost lol
Only reason why I don’t like playing as John is that he can’t swim 🏊♂️
you can always use your horse as a boat
The game isn't called swimming simulator so stop creating excuses for thicc Arthur to be better
@? Lol, why is he a fanboy exactly? I don't see him crying over who is better (like you).
Why are you people always say use horses to swim i need swiming for taking puling out some animals to skin them but when swim with a horse one of the stars will be gone this is why arthurs better at hunting
Arthur- Poweful
John- Deadly
Arthur Might be a good fighter. But i don‘t think he could stand a Chance against the Older John Marston in red dead redemption 1
I believe John would have gave him a good fight considering he got trained by the famous gunslinger Landon rickets but then again, Arthur has killed the fastest draw in the west in a quickdraw battle. And Arthur pretty much fought the entire army like John did. And in h2h, Arthur Vs Tommy, I won't say anymore
Voldemort all the gunslingers which Arthur/John killed were rusty, old and drunk so it isn't much. And also Arthur might've beat the shit out of tommy but John survived wolf attack, fatass grizzly bear almost eating him and single handedly stopped the apocalypse (not canon but counts)
Also the army Arthur fought were way younger than the one John fought.
In conclusion Arthur wins in a fist fight and John in a gun fight.
@@kidsfromyesterday6025 wat about Emmet Granger and flaco Hernandez, flaco was in his 30s and Emmet looked like he could still fight. Arthur killed flaco in quickdraw despite being the same age or more. Arthur drew his gun at the same time as Micah who one shotted 3 grays with his revolver. John couldn't defeat him. Granted he was inexperienced but only by 4 yrs
Voldemort Maybe You see, the gunslinger mission is a side mission so it could be done by any character also with John so it isn't much, yes, maybe flaco was the only good one emmet granger was rusty and quite old. I don't know what time you are talking about where Arthur drew his gun fast so I'd assume it was in the final mission but he did not shoot so maybe Micah would've won. And finally John literally took out Micah's entire gang alone so he might've been exhausted while fighting him but yeah Micah is better than rdr2 John but John rdr2 john is quicker and more accurate than Arthur tho rdr1 john would smoke Micah's ass.
Also john survived a bullet to the chest and falling off the train then continued fighting along with Arthur.
I also admit how Arthur destroyed Micah in a hand to hand combat while he was sick, which makes him the strongest in a fist fight.
Like I said, rdr1 John is is better in gunfight and Arthur in a fist fight.
Arthur:you better run and don’t look back me: because you have six 45 caliber bullets in your gun loaded
"Arthur vs John" I dont need this kind of negativity in my life
4:46 John after killing Arthur is like: I'M OUT BITCHES
Y love two protagonist ❤
John: cougar
Arthur: bear
Where can I find the cover of American Venom that starts at 7:18?
Adam Pleasants search american venom song on youtube
This is John Marston's Theme, it's from the first game.
Adam Pleasants It’s not a cover it’s Johns theme from the first game. American venom was based off it
2:37 where is this place located? Never seen a mud pool in New Austin
I'm not entirely sure but it might be somewhere between Blackwater and MacFarlane Ranch? Isn't there a swamp like area? Might be there
What about do all shireffs fight
Isaias Gonzalez they wont attack each other
4:38 I guess having the high ground doesn’t always work
I swear if john doesn't win I'm going to be pissed
Edit: DAMMIT
I kinda like Arthur better
@@Jonin_Kazumi probably haven’t played RdR then
John won
I can't be the only person who found it a bit jarring with the size difference between John and Arthur on their first play through. Like Arthur is a 6'1 wall of muscle, before tuberculosis, and then John is like a twig by comparison. However it never stops John from being a absolute beast on Mt Hagan.
arthur looks like A giant
He's just a thicc boah