I don’t know I think that Jerome was always like a terrible kid, but Jeremiah lied about the parts where Jerome wanted to kill Jeremiah and that’s where it got worse. So Jerome was bad but Jeremiah became so much worse
I like the fact that when they didn't have the rights to the look or name of Joker. They still found a way to put him in and ppl know it's Joker, like come on man they failed to not let this show use Joker. 😂
I found it a cool little idea that what if the valeska brothers were both alive and one was constantly trying to outdo the other one or sometimes they both work together in their plans in their ways
I like how even though Jerome and Jeremiah are polar opposites, you can see on Jeremiah’s face that he knew their “mother” deserved it. I think that their “mother” abused both of them, so to escape, Jeremiah left Jerome behind. Tbh it’s still wrong that Jeremiah made that shit up and made Jerome what he’s like know, but then again you have to feel bad that it got to the extent of him having to leave. So in reality, Jeremiah may have not wanted to leave his brother, but did because of the abuse (because Jeremiah is the “clean” kid, so of course they would believe him over Jerome). Jerome wanted revenge because he left him behind to deal with their “mother” and even their “mother” was sad about Jeremiah leaving because Jerome would reveal that on stage in his final moments. You have to feel bad for both because of the abuse, but you have to blame one for leaving the other and causing the death of their “mother”. And another thing is, that their colors reflect how they both are: jerome has light colors, while Jeremiah has darker colors… starts to make you wonder who was good or bad.
The brothers are both insane. But as the comment said before. Jeremiah is the true "evil" brother. Obviously both are nuts 😂 but they actually are representing two sides of joker. One, Jerome is obviously the joker side of chaotic evil creating chaos for fun. Jeremiah on the other hand when he becomes joker is the more smooth, taction side
I noticed that too the first time I watched this scene. For a second I thought Harvey ran past Jerome and Jeremiah to chase after Hatter and Scarecrow.😂
2:07 I know he was referencing his plan to turn Gotham into a madhouse with his insanity gas but it's interesting because Jeremiah did got sprayed by Jeromes gas in the next season, turning him into Joker.
Brothers doing eachother wrong pains my chest deep down. Like as a brother especially an older brother seeing that the little one has to be a coward after his sabotaging, and the older one that in his mind the only option being to put his lil bro down. like damn. Its like real life , where having a heart and loving someone eventually makes you the victimn of being did wrong.
I don’t get it why did jeremiah Played the scared one here didnt Jerome knew who his Brother really was and didnt jeremiah strangle his Brother in the Episode when He revealed who he really was
Jeremiah is the official Joker as of the ending of the show however I would have preferred if they didn’t kill of Jerome because like Jeremiah he had a sort of rivlary with Bruce so it wouldn’t have had less impact for when he finally faced Bruce as Batman also Jerome was much more like the traditional Joker and had the laugh down. Jeremiah was more like Dark Knight Returns Joker. Still a cool take but not the one I would have gone withe for the one to become THE Joker in the end.
I think it would've been interesting if BOTH were the Joker, but like the sun and the moon only one would be in ascendance at a time or there'd been be times they would work together or fight each other.
If that's true Jeremiah made his life a living hell (by labeling him as a "criminal", "insane" and "villain" as the begining), as Jerome explained to him, he revealed himself as a broke villain with a sad backstory (despite Jeremiah, as scared, remembered hardly or he was afraid to admit that). In 2:40, as a "thank you for turning me into a villain", Jerome wanted to show Jeremiah what it fells like to be a villain. In 3:10, the message was actually: "See ya soon IN HELL!"
Personally i like Jerome more, he should have gotten more screen time. Jerome was the insane mayhem side of the joker/ Jeremiah was controlled tactical side of of the joker.
My favourite is:
Jeremiah: Your insane
Jerome quickly says: Yeah
@AdrianRodriguez-tp3vs Good, because Jeremiah is worse than him he never admits he is insane.
"Oh hell no! You are NOT hypnotizing me, again! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!" 2:20
"Must go! Must go! They're after me and the Scarecrow!"
😂
Reminds me of Han Solo in A New Hope when he’s running after the Stormtroopers
“This guy just won’t stop” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ariadnefrolich7243 😂😂😂 I thought he said let's go let's go
Jeremiah was the reason why Jerome became who he was. I like that idea.
I don’t know I think that Jerome was always like a terrible kid, but Jeremiah lied about the parts where Jerome wanted to kill Jeremiah and that’s where it got worse. So Jerome was bad but Jeremiah became so much worse
I think Jerome was already bad and Jeremiah just made it worse
3:08 I love how he denies his brother, but then he accepts the fact that. He's really all he has left
He acts COMPLETELY different. Even movements! And then when Jeremiah became the joker he was different too!
I like the fact that when they didn't have the rights to the look or name of Joker. They still found a way to put him in and ppl know it's Joker, like come on man they failed to not let this show use Joker. 😂
I found it a cool little idea that what if the valeska brothers were both alive and one was constantly trying to outdo the other one or sometimes they both work together in their plans in their ways
Normally I don't care for the multiple Jokers idea, but yours sounds so fun!
roightttt
I would LOVE to watch/read this! Jerome or Jeremiah in an alliance and/or fighting each other? HELLS YES!
I asked chatgpt what would happen. Its interesting
That would be good but there’s only one joker that Batman has to deal with
Such a talented actor
I like how even though Jerome and Jeremiah are polar opposites, you can see on Jeremiah’s face that he knew their “mother” deserved it. I think that their “mother” abused both of them, so to escape, Jeremiah left Jerome behind. Tbh it’s still wrong that Jeremiah made that shit up and made Jerome what he’s like know, but then again you have to feel bad that it got to the extent of him having to leave. So in reality, Jeremiah may have not wanted to leave his brother, but did because of the abuse (because Jeremiah is the “clean” kid, so of course they would believe him over Jerome). Jerome wanted revenge because he left him behind to deal with their “mother” and even their “mother” was sad about Jeremiah leaving because Jerome would reveal that on stage in his final moments. You have to feel bad for both because of the abuse, but you have to blame one for leaving the other and causing the death of their “mother”. And another thing is, that their colors reflect how they both are: jerome has light colors, while Jeremiah has darker colors… starts to make you wonder who was good or bad.
Jeremiah is the real reason why Jerome went down the deep end. He told all those lies and Jerome had to suffer for it
The brothers are both insane. But as the comment said before. Jeremiah is the true "evil" brother. Obviously both are nuts 😂 but they actually are representing two sides of joker. One, Jerome is obviously the joker side of chaotic evil creating chaos for fun. Jeremiah on the other hand when he becomes joker is the more smooth, taction side
Trauma and abuse can do so much damage!
I just wish all those actors to come back and do Gotham again
Yes so do I
2:58 if you look closely they messed up the shot,
you seem someone else pass the brothers after the mad hatter and scarecrow pass
I noticed that too the first time I watched this scene. For a second I thought Harvey ran past Jerome and Jeremiah to chase after Hatter and Scarecrow.😂
3:04 “I’ll Splatter Broski”😂😂😂😂
2:07 I know he was referencing his plan to turn Gotham into a madhouse with his insanity gas but it's interesting because Jeremiah did got sprayed by Jeromes gas in the next season, turning him into Joker.
No that was this season check ur facts
And apparently Jeremiah was already a villain, he was just hiding it.
Brothers doing eachother wrong pains my chest deep down. Like as a brother especially an older brother seeing that the little one has to be a coward after his sabotaging, and the older one that in his mind the only option being to put his lil bro down. like damn.
Its like real life , where having a heart and loving someone eventually makes you the victimn of being did wrong.
I really enjoyed Jerome as a potention joker was a great take
Every time I see Jervis terrified, I laugh. He’s so calm and collected and then “MUST GO! MUST GO!”
2:19 this was my fav scene in the whole show💀
The laugh at the end is really a perfect depiction of jokers laugh
Is this the first time Cameron Monaghan has played two different characters in one series?
yes
imagine putting audio clips from this show on top of gameplay footage from Fallen Order and Survivor.
2:15 it kind of sounds like Mark Hamill laugh
Where’s the laugh?
Gotham had such excellent characters!! Scarecrow, Jerome, and Jervis Tetch, are three of my favorite villains!! Love this TV series!! 🤍
I remember I was both shocked and weird out when they made another devil as the Clown Prince of Crime
0:10 キャメロン･モナハン 1人二役の名演技
2:20 Harvey had his shit
Let's go!
Let's go!!
Let's go!!!
My dad and I saw this scene today while we were watching Gotham and absolutely LOVED IT 😭😍
i like how genuinely mad and hurt jerome is towards his brother,maybe he is born mad from the start but jeremiah really fucked him up MORE😊
I don’t get it why did jeremiah Played the scared one here didnt Jerome knew who his Brother really was and didnt jeremiah strangle his Brother in the Episode when He revealed who he really was
@@vistaxxyes. After the "bad" spray. This was before the spray that jerome let scarecrow make for his brother
I remember that was the second time I ever see both Tetch and Crane together
Jeremiah is the official Joker as of the ending of the show however I would have preferred if they didn’t kill of Jerome because like Jeremiah he had a sort of rivlary with Bruce so it wouldn’t have had less impact for when he finally faced Bruce as Batman also Jerome was much more like the traditional Joker and had the laugh down. Jeremiah was more like Dark Knight Returns Joker. Still a cool take but not the one I would have gone withe for the one to become THE Joker in the end.
I think it would've been interesting if BOTH were the Joker, but like the sun and the moon only one would be in ascendance at a time or there'd been be times they would work together or fight each other.
2:19 😂
Rushing him immediately with the "oh HELL no!" is inspired.
Make this the next joker movie. Joker vs Joker
That would be decent movie, actually
Please, no. Please stop switching dimensions or parallel universes. There are too many timelines to keep up with.
@piratescove4 well in this it doesn't have to be multiverse involved. Jerome vs Jeremiah simple
I WOULD WATCH THAT RELIGIOUSLY!
This is joker 2
If that's true Jeremiah made his life a living hell (by labeling him as a "criminal", "insane" and "villain" as the begining), as Jerome explained to him, he revealed himself as a broke villain with a sad backstory (despite Jeremiah, as scared, remembered hardly or he was afraid to admit that).
In 2:40, as a "thank you for turning me into a villain", Jerome wanted to show Jeremiah what it fells like to be a villain.
In 3:10, the message was actually: "See ya soon IN HELL!"
Wait isnt that the same hallway at star labs from the Flash series?
Context? I thought he was shot? How are they meeting?
I wonder y scarecrow didnt use his fear toxin on them both
Personally i like Jerome more, he should have gotten more screen time. Jerome was the insane mayhem side of the joker/ Jeremiah was controlled tactical side of of the joker.
Should of called him The Jester
2:02
Imagine the two jokers working together!
I'll see u soon 💋😂
🤣
Mark Hamills laugh and Heath Ledgers voice. Riiiiiip off
Two jokers Met
This show is incredibly corny
Terrible stage performance
Two Jokers